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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 17:52:42 GMT 1
He's soft, he hides, never puts a tackle in, has no positional awareness and looks like a boy in a man's game. My opinion, of course. I agree with you, this season he has been very poor and quiet. Away to QPR, Moore's last game in charge, he was horrendous and looked completely out of place. But last season under Warnock, he looked stronger, he put tackles in, and I still remember his sumptuous cross for Ward away at Millwall, which without that, we would have probably been playing in League One last season, and we could have potentially not had an owner (correct me if I'm wrong). He's opened up about his mental health struggles this season, and this could go some way to explaining the fact that he always seemed to be hiding in games, scared of making a mistake. I really hope he can kick on now as I think he definitely has the potential to do so, but if we're going into next season with him as our first choice LWB, then we will really struggle. We stayed up with nine points and Nagle said he would buy the club no matter what league we were in, so I think you're wrong on that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 18:04:46 GMT 1
I agree with you, this season he has been very poor and quiet. Away to QPR, Moore's last game in charge, he was horrendous and looked completely out of place. But last season under Warnock, he looked stronger, he put tackles in, and I still remember his sumptuous cross for Ward away at Millwall, which without that, we would have probably been playing in League One last season, and we could have potentially not had an owner (correct me if I'm wrong). He's opened up about his mental health struggles this season, and this could go some way to explaining the fact that he always seemed to be hiding in games, scared of making a mistake. I really hope he can kick on now as I think he definitely has the potential to do so, but if we're going into next season with him as our first choice LWB, then we will really struggle. We stayed up with nine points and Nagle said he would buy the club no matter what league we were in, so I think you're wrong on that. Well, once again correct me if I'm wrong, but before that Millwall game we had lost back-to-back 4-0s to Burnley and Coventry, and we were in danger of being cut adrift. We had been absolutely hopeless that game - I remember some fans near me cheering when Waghorn got injured and had to be subbed off! It was an awful game, they had quite a few chances and we had one, supplied by Jackson's excellent cross. Without that goal, we wouldn't have received that boost and gone on that run beating Middlesbrough and Watford as well, that's why I think we would have gone down without that goal. About the owner, I didn't realise that, fair enough. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 18:31:57 GMT 1
We stayed up with nine points and Nagle said he would buy the club no matter what league we were in, so I think you're wrong on that. About the owner, I didn't realise that, fair enough. I don't do hypotheticals. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 18:44:11 GMT 1
Well, once again correct me if I'm wrong, but before that Millwall game we had lost back-to-back 4-0s to Burnley and Coventry, and we were in danger of being cut adrift. We had been absolutely hopeless that game - I remember some fans near me cheering when Waghorn got injured and had to be subbed off! It was an awful game, they had quite a few chances and we had one, supplied by Jackson's excellent cross. Without that goal, we wouldn't have received that boost and gone on that run beating Middlesbrough and Watford as well, that's why I think we would have gone down without that goal. About the owner, I didn't realise that, fair enough. I don't do hypotheticals. I get that, but surely you don't think that if we hadn't won that game, we would have still gone on to beat Middlesbrough 4-2 and Watford 3-2? |
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Post by kennyk2 on May 18, 2024 18:46:52 GMT 1
The wife who's a Hibee has called every manager since Wagner.
She likes this guy.
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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 18:49:23 GMT 1
I don't do hypotheticals. I get that, but surely you don't think that if we hadn't won that game, we would have still gone on to beat Middlesbrough 4-2 and Watford 3-2? No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 18:56:56 GMT 1
I get that, but surely you don't think that if we hadn't won that game, we would have still gone on to beat Middlesbrough 4-2 and Watford 3-2? No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. I get that, but before that goal, under Warnock we were playing worse than with Buzz at the wheel. The goal completely catalysed our incredible run IMO |
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Post by buckers on May 18, 2024 18:58:37 GMT 1
I get that, but surely you don't think that if we hadn't won that game, we would have still gone on to beat Middlesbrough 4-2 and Watford 3-2? No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. Yeah but we shouldn’t go back. We’re obsessed with it as a fan base. Why do we keep going back to ex managers and players? Oh Warnock is fine though. Fucking odd! |
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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 19:01:13 GMT 1
No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. I get that, but before that goal, under Warnock we were playing worse than with Buzz at the wheel. The goal completely catalysed our incredible run IMO Okay. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 19:01:33 GMT 1
No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. Yeah but we shouldn’t go back. We’re obsessed with it as a fan base. Why do we keep going back to ex managers and players? Oh Warnock is fine though. Fucking odd! What the fuck are you on about? |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 19:02:17 GMT 1
No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. Yeah but we shouldn’t go back. We’re obsessed with it as a fan base. Why do we keep going back to ex managers and players? Oh Warnock is fine though. Fucking odd! Sorry - what the fuck are you on about? Me and htafcokay were having a debate about two seasons ago, when Warnock was in charge. Wanting a manager to come back is completely different to talking about something that happened in the past! |
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Post by Kenny irons on May 18, 2024 19:03:17 GMT 1
Great appointment
Knows what he wants and knows the players he wants to recruit
Can see him succeeding very well with us
Good luck Duffman
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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 19:04:12 GMT 1
Yeah but we shouldn’t go back. We’re obsessed with it as a fan base. Why do we keep going back to ex managers and players? Oh Warnock is fine though. Fucking odd! Sorry - what the fuck are you on about? Me and htafcokay were having a debate about two seasons ago, when Warnock was in charge. Wanting a manager to come back is completely different to talking about something that happened in the past! And I literally said in a post yesterday that while the likes of Buxton, Jacko and Warnock have done well in previous spells, I don't want any of them back. Not once have I ever said bring Warnock back. |
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Post by goodbet on May 18, 2024 19:10:19 GMT 1
Great appointment Knows what he wants and knows the players he wants to recruit Can see him succeeding very well with us Good luck Duffman Let's hope realty does not upset him. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 18, 2024 19:20:33 GMT 1
He's soft, he hides, never puts a tackle in, has no positional awareness and looks like a boy in a man's game. My opinion, of course. I agree with you, this season he has been very poor and quiet. Away to QPR, Moore's last game in charge, he was horrendous and looked completely out of place. But last season under Warnock, he looked stronger, he put tackles in, and I still remember his sumptuous cross for Ward away at Millwall, which without that, we would have probably been playing in League One last season, and we could have potentially not had an owner (correct me if I'm wrong). He's opened up about his mental health struggles this season, and this could go some way to explaining the fact that he always seemed to be hiding in games, scared of making a mistake. I really hope he can kick on now as I think he definitely has the potential to do so, but if we're going into next season with him as our first choice LWB, then we will really struggle. You just gave him the boost of confidence that he needs! 🤦🏻♂️ Hope he’s not reading this forum… |
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Post by rockwall on May 18, 2024 20:16:45 GMT 1
No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. Yeah but we shouldn’t go back. We’re obsessed with it as a fan base. Why do we keep going back to ex managers and players? Oh Warnock is fine though. Fucking odd! Keep up fella.. Not one of the posters has mentioned about anyone coming back. If anything it's the complete opposite with htafcokay. |
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Post by Larry David on May 18, 2024 21:56:37 GMT 1
Was at my lads presentation tonight, plays for north gawber in Barnsley, the parents were all gutted Duff had come to us. They all think we'll walk the league next year.
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Post by cuz on May 18, 2024 22:05:36 GMT 1
Was at my lads presentation tonight, plays for north gawber in Barnsley, the parents were all gutted Duff had come to us. They all think we'll walk the league next year. One fatal flaw in that line of thought - this is Town! |
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Post by irverino on May 18, 2024 22:40:24 GMT 1
I get that, but surely you don't think that if we hadn't won that game, we would have still gone on to beat Middlesbrough 4-2 and Watford 3-2? No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. The remit was to keep Town up, DH did not give a flying f#ck how he achieved this & I know I didn't..........Want to throw the match at Turf Moor Neil? Crack on if you think it will help, who are we to question why? |
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Post by turbo2 on May 18, 2024 22:48:39 GMT 1
No idea. Under Warnock, anything seemed possible. The remit was to keep Town up, DH did not give a flying f#ck how he achieved this & I know I didn't..........Want to throw the match at Turf Moor Neil? Crack on if you think it will help, who are we to question why? That Burnley game really annoyed me. I know there’s a bigger picture but folk paid a lot of money to turn up for that appalling performance |
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Post by utttrooper on May 18, 2024 22:58:27 GMT 1
Was at my lads presentation tonight, plays for north gawber in Barnsley, the parents were all gutted Duff had come to us. They all think we'll walk the league next year. One fatal flaw in that line of thought - this is Town! We'll probably do a Leicester but without the teams around us being shite at the same time |
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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 23:27:37 GMT 1
The remit was to keep Town up, DH did not give a flying f#ck how he achieved this & I know I didn't..........Want to throw the match at Turf Moor Neil? Crack on if you think it will help, who are we to question why? That Burnley game really annoyed me. I know there’s a bigger picture but folk paid a lot of money to turn up for that appalling performance And people actually clapped them off! Unbelievable. |
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Post by irverino on May 19, 2024 1:56:58 GMT 1
That Burnley game really annoyed me. I know there’s a bigger picture but folk paid a lot of money to turn up for that appalling performance And people actually clapped them off! Unbelievable. Ah but NW pre warned runaway leaders away from home might be a tough nut to crack, but we had nothing from DM on a longer trip to Birmingham about the disaster to unfold at St Andrews or AB's even further treck to South Wales when the performance were just as appalling but the threat of relegation was far less this season.........Which mastermind at Town decided to get rid of Warnock? Was it ARTHUR DALEY (aka MC)? |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2024 10:34:22 GMT 1
I agree with you, this season he has been very poor and quiet. Away to QPR, Moore's last game in charge, he was horrendous and looked completely out of place. But last season under Warnock, he looked stronger, he put tackles in, and I still remember his sumptuous cross for Ward away at Millwall, which without that, we would have probably been playing in League One last season, and we could have potentially not had an owner (correct me if I'm wrong). He's opened up about his mental health struggles this season, and this could go some way to explaining the fact that he always seemed to be hiding in games, scared of making a mistake. I really hope he can kick on now as I think he definitely has the potential to do so, but if we're going into next season with him as our first choice LWB, then we will really struggle. You just gave him the boost of confidence that he needs! 🤦🏻♂️ Hope he’s not reading this forum… I said I think he has the potential to kick on? I said that 2 seasons ago under Warnock that he looked a proper player, and I think that he can return to that level. All I said bad was that he was pretty rubbish last season, which I'm sure he knows and I'm sure you know as well. |
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Post by rab030 on May 20, 2024 13:49:05 GMT 1
The wife who's a Hibee has called every manager since Wagner. She likes this guy. She's clearly a good judge of character Kenny. Hope you manage to hold your own position down  |
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Post by gowlinggoal on May 21, 2024 19:28:40 GMT 1
Am I alone in being concerned that Duff hasn't got an assistant yet. Martin Paterson (his previous no 2) and Alan Sheehan his number 3 are Manager at Burton and Assistant at Swansea respectively - so are unlikely to join him. In my experience Managers who try to work with the previous managers leftovers tend to struggle because there's no-one they trust to tell them they're wrong - or to be the bridge with the players.
Fotheringham is a case in point as he appeared to be a big mouthed/headed meglomaniac. Kenny Miller did appear to calm him (comparatively) when he arrived but it was too late as the damage had been done.
I know it's early days and the players aren't back for weeks but if he's working through the summer planning I'd like that sounding board sooner rather than later.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 21, 2024 20:00:11 GMT 1
Am I alone in being concerned that Duff hasn't got an assistant yet. Martin Paterson (his previous no 2) and Alan Sheehan his number 3 are Manager at Burton and Assistant at Swansea respectively - so are unlikely to join him. In my experience Managers who try to work with the previous managers leftovers tend to struggle because there's no-one they trust to tell them they're wrong - or to be the bridge with the players. Fotheringham is a case in point as he appeared to be a big mouthed/headed meglomaniac. Kenny Miller did appear to calm him (comparatively) when he arrived but it was too late as the damage had been done. I know it's early days and the players aren't back for weeks but if he's working through the summer planning I'd like that sounding board sooner rather than later. I guess he's working on this in the background but if he's starting from fresh he will want to take his time, research candidates, get recommendations etc. plus most of the football community will be on their jollies now. I'd be worried if we hadn't heard anything by mid June. |
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Post by Terriersmad on May 21, 2024 20:12:24 GMT 1
Am I alone in being concerned that Duff hasn't got an assistant yet. Martin Paterson (his previous no 2) and Alan Sheehan his number 3 are Manager at Burton and Assistant at Swansea respectively - so are unlikely to join him. In my experience Managers who try to work with the previous managers leftovers tend to struggle because there's no-one they trust to tell them they're wrong - or to be the bridge with the players. Fotheringham is a case in point as he appeared to be a big mouthed/headed meglomaniac. Kenny Miller did appear to calm him (comparatively) when he arrived but it was too late as the damage had been done. I know it's early days and the players aren't back for weeks but if he's working through the summer planning I'd like that sounding board sooner rather than later. It's a fair point. A manager needs a team he trusts around him. I'd be concerned if the players were training and we didn't have a proper coaching team and setup. Not being able to rely on a previously trusted number 2 has been a problem in our relatively recent past: Andy Ritchie wasn't allowed to bring in the coaching team that had been successful at Barnsley, and lo and behold is unsuccessful with us - relying on John Dungworth, who was previously an internal promotion after Terry Yorath's illness. However, we have a month before they return for pre-season training. Assistant coaches, number 2s, whatever you want to call those who aren't head coach these days - they do their work on the training ground and not in the backroom as much. Head coach has an idea, they're responsible for getting that idea across to all players. As such, we'd be wise to take this time to make sure the team is right and not rushed. We'll want them in place before the first team returns, probably a week ahead so Duff can liaise and co-ordinate with them, but it's not the most urgent concern. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 21, 2024 20:19:08 GMT 1
The offical website, said Duff's staff would be announced "in due course" . Which leads me to think, that either we are paying comp for them, or can't be announced, until their current deals run out .
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Post by runner76 on May 21, 2024 20:26:16 GMT 1
Did he have the same support team in his three previous roles?
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