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Post by royrace on May 25, 2024 11:41:52 GMT 1
Impressive if we've managed to lure his preferred number two from a manager's role. I was concerned he'd have to bring in people he hadn't worked with before. Paterson doesn't seem the type to suffer fools either! I'll be very pleased if it comes off.
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Post by King Neil on May 25, 2024 12:39:10 GMT 1
No shitshow from hoyle Duncan...12 years pal without a relegation to league 1 Some people forget the good times and just remember the bit of bad 2 years ago this month we were in the championship playoff final Sorry but the lack of investment bullcrap doesn't wash Don't get me wrong hoyle covered the short fall, but was prepared to put us in administration so he could get the shares to sell the club. There was never massive investment in the team. So I don't know how you can say lack of investment is bull crap The best period for me in 48 years since my first game...he wasn't wealthy enough to sustain it but it is what it is |
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 25, 2024 14:23:59 GMT 1
Don't get me wrong hoyle covered the short fall, but was prepared to put us in administration so he could get the shares to sell the club. There was never massive investment in the team. So I don't know how you can say lack of investment is bull crap The best period for me in 48 years since my first game...he wasn't wealthy enough to sustain it but it is what it is If Nagle is in charge for 10 + years then judge him then, there were plenty of ups and downs under Hoyle and lets see what Nagle can now do . See if there are more ups than downs when he is done. |
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Post by Sio on May 25, 2024 14:33:36 GMT 1
No shitshow from hoyle Duncan...12 years pal without a relegation to league 1 Some people forget the good times and just remember the bit of bad 2 years ago this month we were in the championship playoff final Sorry but the lack of investment bullcrap doesn't wash Hi Janet, hope you're well. |
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Post by Solihull Terrier on May 25, 2024 17:37:32 GMT 1
Because we will loose most of our best players and along with Birmingham everyone will want to beat us. If people think it will be a walk in the park!!think again I don't recall many seasons where we played teams that didn't want to beat us. |
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Post by duncfost01 on May 25, 2024 17:43:06 GMT 1
No shitshow from hoyle Duncan...12 years pal without a relegation to league 1 Some people forget the good times and just remember the bit of bad 2 years ago this month we were in the championship playoff final Sorry but the lack of investment bullcrap doesn't wash Hi Janet, hope you're well. Yes Hoyle did fantastically, gave us great memories, however the whole Hoyle-potless-Hoyle was a complete shitshow. The squad was never invested in after the play-off final loss and its one of the main reasons we are back in league one. |
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Post by duncfost01 on May 25, 2024 18:57:53 GMT 1
I’m not sure any of us can predict how he will do. What we know. The current squad isn’t good enough for the championship as results proved. Some have created diversion amongst the squad. Are we any worse than other clubs? We only have a failed managers word on that.Some were bad signings by Warnock and we are stuck with; ward and ruffles. Nagle has said no fire sale so any that do leave will leave at a fair market price. There will be squad investment. The infrastructure of the club seems to have been invested in - which should surely effect the running of the club for the better. The shit show of Hoyle - plotless - Hoyle and lack of investment in the squad is over. Duff has the ideal platform to build. A full summer to work with the recruitment team and the players when they return. We hopeWill he work out ? Will he be successful? Who knows but he has the best building blocks any manager has been given for an awful long time. I am just not as hopeful as you are based on last seasons rather poor show all round by the club. 53 years watching town I’m not sure I’m hopeful. What we need is to find a couple of gems. Aaron Mooy - im sure a few thought why we signing somebody Australian football. What a player he was. Up there with Marcus Stewart, Peter Clarke, Jacko and Ian robbins (that lad knew where the goal was ). Boothy as well- played 100% for the club and the shirt. Not like those spoilt brats last year. |
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Post by Terriersmad on May 25, 2024 19:43:39 GMT 1
Hi Janet, hope you're well. Yes Hoyle did fantastically, gave us great memories, however the whole Hoyle-potless-Hoyle was a complete shitshow. The squad was never invested in after the play-off final loss and its one of the main reasons we are back in league one. It always amazes me that Hodgkinson doesn't get the blame. Ultimately it was his business going to the wall and his financial interests that meant we were in that position, where someone who didn't own the club was funding it while the club serviced the debts of the person who did own it. The administration thing wasn't because of club debt, but because of the impasse with Hodgkinson's administrators and a way of breaking that impasse. You're not wrong about reason, but you are wrong with where the finger should point. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 25, 2024 20:17:15 GMT 1
Yes Hoyle did fantastically, gave us great memories, however the whole Hoyle-potless-Hoyle was a complete shitshow. The squad was never invested in after the play-off final loss and its one of the main reasons we are back in league one. It always amazes me that Hodgkinson doesn't get the blame. Ultimately it was his business going to the wall and his financial interests that meant we were in that position, where someone who didn't own the club was funding it while the club serviced the debts of the person who did own it. The administration thing wasn't because of club debt, but because of the impasse with Hodgkinson's administrators and a way of breaking that impasse. You're not wrong about reason, but you are wrong with where the finger should point. No no, because it's completely normal to blame the bloke who sold the car, rather than the idiot that crashed it. |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on May 25, 2024 20:36:58 GMT 1
It always amazes me that Hodgkinson doesn't get the blame. Ultimately it was his business going to the wall and his financial interests that meant we were in that position, where someone who didn't own the club was funding it while the club serviced the debts of the person who did own it. The administration thing wasn't because of club debt, but because of the impasse with Hodgkinson's administrators and a way of breaking that impasse. You're not wrong about reason, but you are wrong with where the finger should point. No no, because it's completely normal to blame the bloke who sold the car, rather than the idiot that crashed it. If you sell your car to a blind bloke you have a good idea he might crash it 🤔 |
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Post by htafcokay on May 25, 2024 20:39:38 GMT 1
No no, because it's completely normal to blame the bloke who sold the car, rather than the idiot that crashed it. If you sell your car to a blind bloke you have a good idea he might crash it 🤔 Even if the blind bloke lies about being able to see? |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 25, 2024 20:41:14 GMT 1
If you sell your car to a blind bloke you have a good idea he might crash it 🤔 Even if the blind bloke lies about being able to see? But when the blind bloke walks in tapping a cane with dark glasses on, maybe best not to sell him the car? |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on May 25, 2024 20:42:00 GMT 1
If you sell your car to a blind bloke you have a good idea he might crash it 🤔 Even if the blind bloke lies about being able to see? Depends on if you were in the car on the test drive 🤪 |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on May 25, 2024 20:43:23 GMT 1
Even if the blind bloke lies about being able to see? Depends on if you were in the car on the test drive 🤪 In all fairness it would take an astute business man about five minutes to work out PH was full of shit |
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Post by htafcokay on May 25, 2024 20:44:36 GMT 1
Even if the blind bloke lies about being able to see? But when the blind bloke walks in tapping a cane with dark glasses on, maybe best not to see him the car? Hodgkinson said he had the money to run the club. How is that Dean Hoyle's fault? Does the person who knew he DIDN'T have the funds to run the club not shoulder some of the blame? |
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Post by htafcokay on May 25, 2024 20:45:25 GMT 1
Depends on if you were in the car on the test drive 🤪 In all fairness it would take an astute business man about five minutes to work out PH was full of shit Plenty of fans were completely blinded. Some still are... |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on May 25, 2024 20:48:35 GMT 1
But when the blind bloke walks in tapping a cane with dark glasses on, maybe best not to see him the car? Hodgkinson said he had the money to run the club. How is that Dean Hoyle's fault? Does the person who knew he DIDN'T have the funds to run the club not shoulder some of the blame? Hoyle went to Hodkinson. Not the other way around. He wanted a Town fan and not some “dodgy foreign investor”. He probably put aside his reservations, thinking it was for the best in the long run. Didn’t quite go as planned. Or did it? 🤔 |
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Post by htafcokay on May 25, 2024 20:52:47 GMT 1
Hodgkinson said he had the money to run the club. How is that Dean Hoyle's fault? Does the person who knew he DIDN'T have the funds to run the club not shoulder some of the blame? Hoyle went to Hodkinson. Not the other way around. He wanted a Town fan and not some “dodgy foreign investor”. He probably put aside his reservations, thinking it was for the best in the long run. Didn’t quite go as planned. Or did it? 🤔 Why didn't Hodgkinson say just one word? No. Did Hoyle hold a gun to his head? |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on May 25, 2024 20:58:35 GMT 1
Hoyle went to Hodkinson. Not the other way around. He wanted a Town fan and not some “dodgy foreign investor”. He probably put aside his reservations, thinking it was for the best in the long run. Didn’t quite go as planned. Or did it? 🤔 Why didn't Hodgkinson say just one word? No. Did Hoyle hold a gun to his head? I wasn’t there in the room but PH had an ego to match anyone’s He lived the dream in his training gear etc If Hoyle genuinely thought he was a good choice then his judgement was shot to bits by his illness and ongoing effects. We are here now with a chap who the jury is very much still out on hoping better things are on the way. It’s been a tough learning curve but you hope lessons have been learned. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 25, 2024 21:11:18 GMT 1
Why didn't Hodgkinson say just one word? No. Did Hoyle hold a gun to his head? I wasn’t there in the room but PH had an ego to match anyone’s He lived the dream in his training gear etc If Hoyle genuinely thought he was a good choice then his judgement was shot to bits by his illness and ongoing effects. We are here now with a chap who the jury is very much still out on hoping better things are on the way. It’s been a tough learning curve but you hope lessons have been learned. The guy was a complete chancer. It was amateur hour under his tenure, though people seem to have forgotten. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2024 22:21:45 GMT 1
Why, on a thread about our new head coach, do we have to get into all the Hoyle and Hodgkinson stuff. It is time we moved forward not continue to rake up old issues. If we are going to have a reset this season then let’s bury the old ones.
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Post by jakeg on May 25, 2024 22:33:21 GMT 1
Why, on a thread about our new head coach, do we have to get into all the Hoyle and Hodgkinson stuff. It is time we moved forward not continue to rake up old issues. If we are going to have a reset this season then let’s bury the old ones. Completely agree.....or at least have the argument in an appropriate thread so I have the choice whether to read raking up history or not. I hear the decision to let Herbert Chapman leave was scandalous....lol |
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Post by htafcokay on May 25, 2024 22:38:02 GMT 1
No shitshow from hoyle Duncan...12 years pal without a relegation to league 1 Some people forget the good times and just remember the bit of bad 2 years ago this month we were in the championship playoff final Sorry but the lack of investment bullcrap doesn't wash Don't get me wrong hoyle covered the short fall, but was prepared to put us in administration so he could get the shares to sell the club. There was never massive investment in the team. So I don't know how you can say lack of investment is bull crap Dean Hoyle broke our record transfer fee on no fewer than six occasions. Not to mention backing Lee Clark to the tune of millions upon millions of pounds, David Wagner too. I don't know how you can say there was NEVER massive investment in the team with a straight face, to be honest. |
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Post by Wingman on May 25, 2024 22:41:27 GMT 1
Get back on track about Duff everyone please.
There’s enough Dean Hoyle, Phil Hodgkinson, & Town finance threads to continue that debate on. The rest of us are looking ahead with hope, not at the past with anger.
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Post by Big Jim on May 25, 2024 22:47:04 GMT 1
I think Micky Duffers is definitely our man for the long term. Any fans who aren't looking forward to next season with optimism, what's the point?
Why not take up another hobby? Like reading obituaries.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2024 22:51:28 GMT 1
Regarding Paterson it looks like he was only under contract until the end of the season at Burton. Not sure if he was offered another after keeping them up but there must be a possibility he has decided to rejoin Duff as assistant. It worked at Barnsley so let’s hope for a repeat. It would certainly fill a gap in Duff’s coaching team.
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Post by richhtfc on May 25, 2024 22:52:43 GMT 1
No shitshow from hoyle Duncan...12 years pal without a relegation to league 1 Some people forget the good times and just remember the bit of bad 2 years ago this month we were in the championship playoff final Sorry but the lack of investment bullcrap doesn't wash Hi Janet, hope you're well. Evening Phil, good to have you involved |
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Post by htafcokay on May 25, 2024 22:54:44 GMT 1
Get back on track about Duff everyone please. There’s enough Dean Hoyle, Phil Hodgkinson, & Town finance threads to continue that debate on. The rest of us are looking ahead with hope, not at the past with anger. Okay then, let's just let blatantly untrue statements go unchecked. Bit like the whole, "Duff is shite", "Duff is taking us nowhere", "Duff is commuting from Australia". |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on May 25, 2024 23:11:08 GMT 1
Why, on a thread about our new head coach, do we have to get into all the Hoyle and Hodgkinson stuff. It is time we moved forward not continue to rake up old issues. If we are going to have a reset this season then let’s bury the old ones.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2024 23:15:17 GMT 1
Get back on track about Duff everyone please. There’s enough Dean Hoyle, Phil Hodgkinson, & Town finance threads to continue that debate on. The rest of us are looking ahead with hope, not at the past with anger. Okay then, let's just let blatantly untrue statements go unchecked. Bit like the whole, "Duff is shite", "Duff is taking us nowhere", "Duff is commuting from Australia". Ain't no fire without oxygen. Edit: I realised this was a bit ambiguous. What I meant was we wouldn’t get these long arguments in inappropriate threads if people didn’t feed them. Just ignore them. |
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