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Post by buxtonboys101 on Nov 9, 2024 11:16:31 GMT 1
“I’m having doubts about duff now.”
It’s too late now … He’s been employed for the season unless we lose another 6 or 7 in a row and that won’t happen in this division no matter how poor we are. Unfortunately we will still not get past the top 2 or 3 clubs because they are better organised and financed. The one bright light might be thst Coventry will poach the Wycombe coach which might destabilise them … but knowing their set up it probably won’t.
Town will just about sneak into the playoffs and lose which Cartwright will present as success for this season.
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Post by omegasupreme on Nov 9, 2024 13:07:55 GMT 1
I worry how good a leader and motivator Duff is. The players didn’t look sufficiently prepared for Friday night to me… Again it was hard to see what our way of scoring was gonna be. It’s no surprise to me that the best leader and man manager we had got the best out of these players. Not that there’s anyone like that around.. that I know of.. A quote from Duff after the match “We’ll be all over the papers tomorrow for all the wrong reasons. I said to the players in the meeting room, ‘make sure your heads are right’, and they clearly weren’t.” - surely it is his job to make sure the players heads were right - not to just say it? This is what Duff seems to do a lot. He talks the talk. "We've got to ensure XYZ", "I've told the players XYZ" - but what actually follows on the pitch is exactly the opposite of what he's said in his interview. I think the football we play under Duff is boring, dull and poor. I'd rather have him than Moore for sure, but I am not a fan of his at all. |
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Post by omegasupreme on Nov 9, 2024 13:11:29 GMT 1
I rated him extremely highly. What he did with our squad was phenomenal and it warranted another £200M prem pay day. We promised to back him then failed to sign Karl morris who went to Luton and took them up instead. Yes. A big target man we’ve been crying out for, for years. I'd be delighted to just have one single centre forward that can hold it up or even play a little bit with their backs to goal. We've never had so many strikers available and barring Koroma, they are all shit. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 9, 2024 13:13:54 GMT 1
A quote from Duff after the match “We’ll be all over the papers tomorrow for all the wrong reasons. I said to the players in the meeting room, ‘make sure your heads are right’, and they clearly weren’t.” - surely it is his job to make sure the players heads were right - not to just say it? This is what Duff seems to do a lot. He talks the talk. "We've got to ensure XYZ", "I've told the players XYZ" - but what actually follows on the pitch is exactly the opposite of what he's said in his interview. I think the football we play under Duff is boring, dull and poor. I'd rather have him than Moore for sure, but I am not a fan of his at all. The players are still in the mindset of "we do what we want " remember for almost the last 2 and half years. The players have gone unchecked in everything they do. They have being able to do what they want , when they want and play in a style "just enough is enough" . Over the last few years there have being so many games, where we were outworked for a reason. The reason is the players are comfy doing what they are , Duff may well be challenging them, but they do not like this. |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 9, 2024 14:53:35 GMT 1
Yes. A big target man we’ve been crying out for, for years. I'd be delighted to just have one single centre forward that can hold it up or even play a little bit with their backs to goal. We've never had so many strikers available and barring Koroma, they are all shit. And Koroma has also been shit most of his time here. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 9, 2024 19:03:28 GMT 1
It's becoming difficult to defend him now. Poor signings aside he seems totally unable to motivate them or get them playing any kind of recognisable and consistent system. We're 8th due to having better players than most teams in the league. He's only got this god awful 5 at the back system that he just can't make work. Midfield looks crap no matter who plays there. There maybe issues with players, confidence, motivation, mindset but it's the managers job to sort all of that out.
Looking like another dud unfortunately.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Nov 9, 2024 19:36:06 GMT 1
I really want to have a season without a change in manager as we have gone through way too many.
I’ve been happy to give Duff the benefit of the doubt even though performances and results haven’t been great. He has still been finding out his best first 11 and we’ve had the odd injury.
My confidence has been waning though and I do not think he will be able to turn it around. Even if we by some miracle get into the playoffs and go up I would not want him here next season.
He does not play football I want to watch and the football he does play is ineffective. We rely on individual moments and having better players and we are definitely less than a sum of our parts.
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Post by kimbo999 on Nov 9, 2024 19:36:42 GMT 1
This is what Duff seems to do a lot. He talks the talk. "We've got to ensure XYZ", "I've told the players XYZ" - but what actually follows on the pitch is exactly the opposite of what he's said in his interview. I think the football we play under Duff is boring, dull and poor. I'd rather have him than Moore for sure, but I am not a fan of his at all. The players are still in the mindset of "we do what we want " remember for almost the last 2 and half years. The players have gone unchecked in everything they do. They have being able to do what they want , when they want and play in a style "just enough is enough" . Over the last few years there have being so many games, where we were outworked for a reason. The reason is the players are comfy doing what they are , Duff may well be challenging them, but they do not like this. Don't think the ones that were here when carlos n Warnock were here did that but that's because they are managers who demand minimum standards, have a plan A,B and C and get players playing to what they are good at. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Nov 9, 2024 19:43:09 GMT 1
I'd be delighted to just have one single centre forward that can hold it up or even play a little bit with their backs to goal. We've never had so many strikers available and barring Koroma, they are all shit. And Koroma has also been shit most of his time here. No he hasn't. |
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Post by 28901 on Nov 9, 2024 19:47:05 GMT 1
It's becoming difficult to defend him now. Poor signings aside he seems totally unable to motivate them or get them playing any kind of recognisable and consistent system. We're 8th due to having better players than most teams in the league. He's only got this god awful 5 at the back system that he just can't make work. Midfield looks crap no matter who plays there. There maybe issues with players, confidence, motivation, mindset but it's the managers job to sort all of that out. Looking like another dud unfortunately. To be fair it is consistent system. A boring and rigid 5 3 2 |
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 9, 2024 19:50:52 GMT 1
I say this pretty much every week, but at some point the penny might drop. Years of underinvestment and bad recruitment has led us to this point.
Who could we attract to work under such restrictions that’s better than Duff?
The players are fucking shit. That’s the problem. Still no proper striker (Healey is decent at this level if fit).
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Post by Terriersmad on Nov 9, 2024 19:51:36 GMT 1
I really want to have a season without a change in manager as we have gone through way too many. I’ve been happy to give Duff the benefit of the doubt even though performances and results haven’t been great. He has still been finding out his best first 11 and we’ve had the odd injury. My confidence has been waning though and I do not think he will be able to turn it around. Even if we by some miracle get into the playoffs and go up I would not want him here next season. He does not play football I want to watch and the football he does play is ineffective. We rely on individual moments and having better players and we are definitely less than a sum of our parts. How much of that is also down to players? We have a lot of samey players - technically OK, but possessed of no outstanding qualities. None who move particularly well. No real pace. Nobody possessed of a wow factor, who can pull something from nothing. Nobody who can run and run. No real ball-carriers. The more I think, the more I’m sure that for all we have players who are good enough individually, but together they’re like a plate of mashed potato with chips on the side, a few roasties and some boiled potatoes to top it all off. No matter how good the chef, it’s still beige at best. |
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Post by robinvar on Nov 9, 2024 20:01:15 GMT 1
I really want to have a season without a change in manager as we have gone through way too many. I’ve been happy to give Duff the benefit of the doubt even though performances and results haven’t been great. He has still been finding out his best first 11 and we’ve had the odd injury. My confidence has been waning though and I do not think he will be able to turn it around. Even if we by some miracle get into the playoffs and go up I would not want him here next season. He does not play football I want to watch and the football he does play is ineffective. We rely on individual moments and having better players and we are definitely less than a sum of our parts. How much of that is also down to players? We have a lot of samey players - technically OK, but possessed of no outstanding qualities. None who move particularly well. No real pace. Nobody possessed of a wow factor, who can pull something from nothing. Nobody who can run and run. No real ball-carriers. The more I think, the more I’m sure that for all we have players who are good enough individually, but together they’re like a plate of mashed potato with chips on the side, a few roasties and some boiled potatoes to top it all off. No matter how good the chef, it’s still beige at best. Oh for striker with pace and power who can finish. They exist. I know the standard answer is they cost, but others seem to dig up some rough gems. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Nov 9, 2024 20:05:12 GMT 1
Imagine a team like Crawley blasting us for pace my god we have fallen
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Post by Floyds on Nov 9, 2024 20:06:23 GMT 1
Does anyone know why he’s continuing to start with Marshall and Bojan?
I would rather play Pearson or Helik up front than those two.
Bojan in particular wouldn’t even be in my match day squad.
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Post by royrace on Nov 9, 2024 20:15:51 GMT 1
I say this pretty much every week, but at some point the penny might drop. Years of underinvestment and bad recruitment has led us to this point. Who could we attract to work under such restrictions that’s better than Duff? The players are fucking shit. That’s the problem. Still no proper striker (Healey is decent at this level if fit). You can attract anyone if you're prepared to pay a good salary. Football managers like working and being paid. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 9, 2024 20:31:08 GMT 1
The players are still in the mindset of "we do what we want " remember for almost the last 2 and half years. The players have gone unchecked in everything they do. They have being able to do what they want , when they want and play in a style "just enough is enough" . Over the last few years there have being so many games, where we were outworked for a reason. The reason is the players are comfy doing what they are , Duff may well be challenging them, but they do not like this. Don't think the ones that were here when carlos n Warnock were here did that but that's because they are managers who demand minimum standards, have a plan A,B and C and get players playing to what they are good at. This is also an issue Duff could address, he is asking some and i say some to do things the ycan't. for example back 3 with two slow centre halfs (pearson/Lees) pushing upt othe half way line with such is madness. No proper centre forward is crazy. Carlos did play 3-5-2 at times, but it wasn't a ridgid 3-5-2 and also he played 1 proper full back to cover and the other (toffolo) was allowed to boom on , but not both. Plus the only centre half who "played out" under carlos was Colwill , not all three were asked. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 9, 2024 20:46:05 GMT 1
I say this pretty much every week, but at some point the penny might drop. Years of underinvestment and bad recruitment has led us to this point. Who could we attract to work under such restrictions that’s better than Duff? The players are fucking shit. That’s the problem. Still no proper striker (Healey is decent at this level if fit). You can attract anyone if you're prepared to pay a good salary. Football managers like working and being paid. if Cartwright has anything about him he’ll have been taking notice of all these players who’ve done well against and nicking them in January. A few that come to mind are hepburn murphy today, that Lowe guy from Walsall who he could use his Stoke connections for, a few from Northampton. And Tamworth Tonks of course. Get some players in who want to get better and will be grateful. Like you said, money talks and I bet our wage bill is 3x Crawleys. |
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 9, 2024 20:55:36 GMT 1
I say this pretty much every week, but at some point the penny might drop. Years of underinvestment and bad recruitment has led us to this point. Who could we attract to work under such restrictions that’s better than Duff? The players are fucking shit. That’s the problem. Still no proper striker (Healey is decent at this level if fit). You can attract anyone if you're prepared to pay a good salary. Football managers like working and being paid. Yes, and here lies the problem … |
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 9, 2024 21:00:16 GMT 1
Not sure which thread to put this in, but his old club Cheltenham have a midfielder called Ethon Archer who scored again today. According to a lad at work who has a season ticket, he’s destined for bigger things. Hoping we’ve an eye on the likes of him. Good age, ambitious, can trap a bag of cement.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Nov 9, 2024 21:03:43 GMT 1
Have you noticed how our players will not take a throw in. It has to be the wide centre back. Sometimes you will see up to three players pick up the ball before putting it down until the centre back finally gets there. Just little things like that show how rigid and regimented our system is. We show zero flair or creativity and I think that is partly because the players aren't allowed to or are afraid to.
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Post by cuz on Nov 9, 2024 21:15:19 GMT 1
You can attract anyone if you're prepared to pay a good salary. Football managers like working and being paid. if Cartwright has anything about him he’ll have been taking notice of all these players who’ve done well against and nicking them in January. A few that come to mind are hepburn murphy today, that Lowe guy from Walsall who he could use his Stoke connections for, a few from Northampton. And Tamworth Tonks of course. Get some players in who want to get better and will be grateful. Like you said, money talks and I bet our wage bill is 3x Crawleys. I bet our overall running costs are x100 Crawleys but all counts for nowt with the spineless shite we put out week after week. |
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Post by goodbet on Nov 9, 2024 21:16:02 GMT 1
You can attract anyone if you're prepared to pay a good salary. Football managers like working and being paid. if Cartwright has anything about him he’ll have been taking notice of all these players who’ve done well against and nicking them in January. A few that come to mind are hepburn murphy today, that Lowe guy from Walsall who he could use his Stoke connections for, a few from Northampton. And Tamworth Tonks of course. Get some players in who want to get better and will be grateful. Like you said, money talks and I bet our wage bill is 3x Crawleys. For me definitely not this. The number of players we have bought in the past because they played well against us and then turned round and could not kick a football when they played for Town. |
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Post by cuz on Nov 9, 2024 21:28:48 GMT 1
if Cartwright has anything about him he’ll have been taking notice of all these players who’ve done well against and nicking them in January. A few that come to mind are hepburn murphy today, that Lowe guy from Walsall who he could use his Stoke connections for, a few from Northampton. And Tamworth Tonks of course. Get some players in who want to get better and will be grateful. Like you said, money talks and I bet our wage bill is 3x Crawleys. For me definitely not this. The number of players we have bought in the past because they played well against us and then turned round and could not kick a football when they played for Town. Junior Mendes |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 9, 2024 21:52:20 GMT 1
if Cartwright has anything about him he’ll have been taking notice of all these players who’ve done well against and nicking them in January. A few that come to mind are hepburn murphy today, that Lowe guy from Walsall who he could use his Stoke connections for, a few from Northampton. And Tamworth Tonks of course. Get some players in who want to get better and will be grateful. Like you said, money talks and I bet our wage bill is 3x Crawleys. For me definitely not this. The number of players we have bought in the past because they played well against us and then turned round and could not kick a football when they played for Town. better than players who haven’t played well against us. |
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Post by arnie on Nov 9, 2024 22:02:54 GMT 1
For me definitely not this. The number of players we have bought in the past because they played well against us and then turned round and could not kick a football when they played for Town. better than players who haven’t played well against us. Tamworth Tonks of course, are you serious, the guy takes a long throw, rest of the game he looks like the guy from pub on Saturday night playing Sunday morning. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 9, 2024 22:18:09 GMT 1
better than players who haven’t played well against us. Tamworth Tonks of course, are you serious, the guy takes a long throw, rest of the game he looks like the guy from pub on Saturday night playing Sunday morning. It’s obviously a joke, but you can’t deny that huge throw caused us more problems than anything we do. |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 9, 2024 22:20:24 GMT 1
And Koroma has also been shit most of his time here. No he hasn't. He had 1 good season when he was going out of contract. He was that bad at one point we ended up loaning him out to Portsmouth. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Nov 9, 2024 22:26:23 GMT 1
How many of Europe's top sides do you see playing 352?
Now I know we're not at that level but if the best coaches in the game don't think it is worth using then why is Duff so obsessed with it? I actually think he would rather lose his job than have to try something else
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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 9, 2024 22:28:23 GMT 1
How many of Europe's top sides do you see playing 352? Now I know we're not at that level but if the best coaches in the game don't think it is worth using than why is Duff so obsessed with it? I actually think he would rather lose his job than have to try something else better question would be how many teams ONLY play 352? Doubt we will see a back four all season |
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