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Post by Captainslapper on May 15, 2024 16:15:51 GMT 1
Isn't Simpson still on our books i mean him and Hudlin up front next season would terrorize league one. Simpson should be keen to come back now we've got some Duff in.  |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on May 15, 2024 16:15:59 GMT 1
Isn't Simpson still on our books i mean him and Hudlin up front next season would terrorize league one. 4pm on a Wednesday is a fine time to be puddled. nice to see Wetherspoons have sorted the wifi out. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 15, 2024 16:17:18 GMT 1
We've signed some absolute dross in the last five years. Kyle Hudlin, Richard Keogh, Richard Stearman, Frazier Campbell, Herbert Bockhorn, Rolando Aarons, Joel Pereira, Yaya Sanogo, Mipo Odubeko, Luke Mbete, Anthony Knockaert, Martyn Waghorn, Matt Lowton, Connor Mahoney, Will Boyle, David Kasumu, Tyreece Simpson. And that's just off the top of my head. Stearman, Boyle and Kasumu play to their level and are committed to the cause. We got exactly what we knew we were getting. Not world beaters but grafters. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 15, 2024 16:21:08 GMT 1
Kyle Hudlin, Richard Keogh, Richard Stearman, Frazier Campbell, Herbert Bockhorn, Rolando Aarons, Joel Pereira, Yaya Sanogo, Mipo Odubeko, Luke Mbete, Anthony Knockaert, Martyn Waghorn, Matt Lowton, Connor Mahoney, Will Boyle, David Kasumu, Tyreece Simpson. And that's just off the top of my head. Stearman, Boyle and Kasumu play to their level and are committed to the cause. We got exactly what we knew we were getting. Not world beaters but grafters. They were or still are rubbish. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 15, 2024 16:21:56 GMT 1
Kyle Hudlin, Richard Keogh, Richard Stearman, Frazier Campbell, Herbert Bockhorn, Rolando Aarons, Joel Pereira, Yaya Sanogo, Mipo Odubeko, Luke Mbete, Anthony Knockaert, Martyn Waghorn, Matt Lowton, Connor Mahoney, Will Boyle, David Kasumu, Tyreece Simpson. And that's just off the top of my head. I’d remove Kasumu from that list as he’s given decent value last season Definitely. There’s a good player in there and he’s not too old to learn and improve. He needs a good coach to help him focus and improve his decision making. I expect him to do much better this next season. |
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Post by incognito on May 15, 2024 16:23:15 GMT 1
We signed Kasumu as an athletic holding midfielder with the ability to burst past the initial defensive line and hand it off to someone that can play. I expected him to be the successor to Hogg, not part of the same midfield.
He's not a box to box midfielder or a wing back. He shouldn't be in the final third slicing shots high and wide or fluffing final balls - that's not his game. His athleticism (or his teammates' lack of it) has almost worked against him the last couple of seasons in terms of the roles he's been asked to play.
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Post by htafcokay on May 15, 2024 16:25:46 GMT 1
We signed Kasumu as an athletic holding midfielder with the ability to burst past the initial defensive line and hand it off to someone that can play. I expected him to be the successor to Hogg, not part of the same midfield. He's not a box to box midfielder or a wing back. He shouldn't be in the final third slicing shots high and wide or fluffing final balls - that's not his game. His athleticism (or his teammates' lack of it) has almost worked against him the last couple of seasons in terms of the roles he's been asked to play. I just expect him to be able to pass to his teammates, but even that seems beyond him. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 15, 2024 16:32:50 GMT 1
We signed Kasumu as an athletic holding midfielder with the ability to burst past the initial defensive line and hand it off to someone that can play. I expected him to be the successor to Hogg, not part of the same midfield. He's not a box to box midfielder or a wing back. He shouldn't be in the final third slicing shots high and wide or fluffing final balls - that's not his game. His athleticism (or his teammates' lack of it) has almost worked against him the last couple of seasons in terms of the roles he's been asked to play. Spot on. Can you please have a word with Duff so he doesn’t waste another season trying to figure out Kasumu’s best position. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 15, 2024 16:36:59 GMT 1
Stearman, Boyle and Kasumu play to their level and are committed to the cause. We got exactly what we knew we were getting. Not world beaters but grafters. They were or still are rubbish. All about opinions |
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Post by htafcokay on May 15, 2024 16:45:41 GMT 1
They were or still are rubbish. All about opinions Correct. |
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Post by Sparrow on May 15, 2024 16:45:45 GMT 1
The bit in bold isn't quite true. Some have been signed from the following clubs: Man City Man United Spurs Brighton Chelsea Crystal Palace Arsenal Spurs Everton We've not actually signed that many directly from Grassroots or that haven't really been in Academies beforeI do agree in general with your post though I'll bow to your knowledge as you pay more attention than me, but we seemed to go through a spell of signing a few from London 'pretend' academies such as XYZ Academy? I also remember a lad signing who was released from Cheltenham. Edit - I can spot 6 on here xyzacademy.co.uk/players/Oh yeah you are right we definitely did sign a few from those types of Academies, especially early on. Mass Elite & XYZ being the main 2 I think. Plus 2 or 3 from Lambeth Tigers (who've had over 75 kids who've played for them in the last 5 years that have gone on to join Professional clubs Academies) However, from that list we actually signed Anthony Gregory after he was released by Arsenal. Anthony Ijiwole had been at QPR & Southampton before we signed him. Jordan Thomas was signed before the Academy revamp and had been at Charlton. He actually left us to sign a pro contract at Norwich when they were in the Premier League. Arron Rowe & Micah Oberio had both been at Leyton Orient. So those were pretty much all signed from other professional clubs, rather than private academies. The main ones we signed from Private Academies or grassroots were the likes of Gio Belagambi, Muz Olugunju, Miles Bright, Tom Bell, Mohammed Diaby, Nazzem Kherbouche, Seth Meeson and Brahima Diarra was actually signed from a French Amateur / Grassroots club rather than an Academy. We've signed a couple from Grassroots this year in Donal Garrick & Danny Isaac |
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Post by hoggy1975 on May 15, 2024 16:48:55 GMT 1
I’ve highlighted before it was the second lowest in the league, which I’m not surprised at. We needed 1, or probably 2, players that could actually hold onto the ball and be able to make simple passes. For that reason I wouldn’t want Kasamu starting for us even in league one. Repeating myself again but Camara, Rudoni & Kasumu were the best midfield we have had in the past 2 seasons. A problem for many of the players is teammates not showing for the ball. When Nakayama was fit and with Headley playing in a wing/wingback role, and Rudoni in the middle, we actually built play on the left by pass and move. Spencer is capable as well if teammates give him options. The whole squad have been a shambles this last season though. We need to see how they are once Duff has them schooled in his way of playing. Fresh start for everyone who stays for me. I saw team mates show for the ball plenty of times, but Kasamu struggled to pass ten yards to find them. Let’s not forget rudoni started most of those games when he did. It’s okay someone been more of a holding midfielder, but why replace Hogg (who isn’t the best passer) with another player that can’t. He might do better with someone next to him but don’t see it myself. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 15, 2024 16:52:10 GMT 1
Released later today I believe Would you like to have another guess? |
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Post by tepidterrier on May 15, 2024 16:55:15 GMT 1
We signed Kasumu as an athletic holding midfielder with the ability to burst past the initial defensive line and hand it off to someone that can play. I expected him to be the successor to Hogg, not part of the same midfield. He's not a box to box midfielder or a wing back. He shouldn't be in the final third slicing shots high and wide or fluffing final balls - that's not his game. His athleticism (or his teammates' lack of it) has almost worked against him the last couple of seasons in terms of the roles he's been asked to play. Away at Sunderland this season was his best game, and showed that on his day he can play the Hogg role better than Hogg has the legs for anymore. When given a simple job at full back under Warnock he showed he could play there if given simple instructions, but it's not his position, and shouldn't be unless there's an injury crisis. I don't buy the idea that a team of professional footballers all lost the ability to pass at the same time- it's about being in tune with what your team mates are doing and the whole team lost that. Kasumu doesn't have that ability to a particularly high level at the best of times, but you don't need to have the brain of Aaron Mooy to be an effective defensive midfielder. He was really crap towards the end of the season, as were most of the team. |
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Post by specialun on May 15, 2024 16:59:12 GMT 1
We signed Kasumu as an athletic holding midfielder with the ability to burst past the initial defensive line and hand it off to someone that can play. I expected him to be the successor to Hogg, not part of the same midfield. He's not a box to box midfielder or a wing back. He shouldn't be in the final third slicing shots high and wide or fluffing final balls - that's not his game. His athleticism (or his teammates' lack of it) has almost worked against him the last couple of seasons in terms of the roles he's been asked to play. On his day? What the 6 days a season he turns up (comment above not this post) Problem is he’s not been good enough to replace Hogg His best position is on the bench bar his 6 good games a season |
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Post by goodbet on May 15, 2024 17:05:04 GMT 1
We signed Kasumu as an athletic holding midfielder with the ability to burst past the initial defensive line and hand it off to someone that can play. I expected him to be the successor to Hogg, not part of the same midfield. He's not a box to box midfielder or a wing back. He shouldn't be in the final third slicing shots high and wide or fluffing final balls - that's not his game. His athleticism (or his teammates' lack of it) has almost worked against him the last couple of seasons in terms of the roles he's been asked to play. On his day? What the 6 days a season he turns up (comment above not this post) Problem is he’s not been good enough to replace Hogg His best position is on the bench bar his 6 good games a season The problem is that Hogg is no longer good enough to replace his past self and I think he will be 36 later this year. |
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Post by fredcarno1 on May 15, 2024 17:19:45 GMT 1
Kyle Hudlin, Richard Keogh, Richard Stearman, Frazier Campbell, Herbert Bockhorn, Rolando Aarons, Joel Pereira, Yaya Sanogo, Mipo Odubeko, Luke Mbete, Anthony Knockaert, Martyn Waghorn, Matt Lowton, Connor Mahoney, Will Boyle, David Kasumu, Tyreece Simpson. And that's just off the top of my head. I’d remove Kasumu from that list as he’s given decent value last season If you like midfielders that can’t pass 5 yards, are crap in the air, offer zero goal threat or assists I suppose he’s been good value. No doubt he’ll ‘tear League 1 apart’ |
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Post by Ross83 on May 15, 2024 17:24:25 GMT 1
Out of interest I had a look at Matt Lowton, after only explaining to a colleague a couple of days ago just how bad he was. He is now plying his trade for Witton Albion!!
What a fall from grace for a player who played the majority of his career in the Championship & EPL!
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Post by tepidterrier on May 15, 2024 17:30:28 GMT 1
We signed Kasumu as an athletic holding midfielder with the ability to burst past the initial defensive line and hand it off to someone that can play. I expected him to be the successor to Hogg, not part of the same midfield. He's not a box to box midfielder or a wing back. He shouldn't be in the final third slicing shots high and wide or fluffing final balls - that's not his game. His athleticism (or his teammates' lack of it) has almost worked against him the last couple of seasons in terms of the roles he's been asked to play. On his day? What the 6 days a season he turns up (comment above not this post) Problem is he’s not been good enough to replace Hogg His best position is on the bench bar his 6 good games a season He was good enough in League 1 for us to sign him, maybe it's his level. I'm not for a minute suggesting he had a good season, or showed enough consistently to deserve a place. Let's wait and see though, he's our player and likely isn't going anywhere. |
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Post by benhomly on May 15, 2024 17:41:22 GMT 1
I’d remove Kasumu from that list as he’s given decent value last season Definitely. There’s a good player in there and he’s not too old to learn and improve. He needs a good coach to help him focus and improve his decision making. I expect him to do much better this next season. I agree; it seems the coaching over the last few seasons has been very poor. Rudoni probably the best example, many on here saying he will be playing in the PL in the near future. He was poor last season with very little end product; I suspect he and a few others are regretting choosing us over other options. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 15, 2024 17:44:37 GMT 1
Definitely. There’s a good player in there and he’s not too old to learn and improve. He needs a good coach to help him focus and improve his decision making. I expect him to do much better this next season. I agree; it seems the coaching over the last few seasons has been very poor. Rudoni probably the best example, many on here saying he will be playing in the PL in the near future. He was poor last season with very little end product; I suspect he and a few others are regretting choosing us over other options. Yes Rudoni is an excellent example. Hopefully we’ve turned a corner and Duff can instill a new culture of high performance and excellence. |
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 15, 2024 17:49:16 GMT 1
Would Hogg even sign a deal. I bet he could get better money as a squad player in the championship and i wouldn't want us to waste much budget on a league 1 squad player, which is surely what he will be now.
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Post by 2ellandback on May 15, 2024 17:56:51 GMT 1
Released later today I believe Would you like to have another guess? He has his finger on the pulse. Problem is it’s on a bag of lentils. |
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Post by kayeb222 on May 15, 2024 20:26:18 GMT 1
Isn't Simpson still on our books i mean him and Hudlin up front next season would terrorize league one. Simpson should be keen to come back now we've got some Duff in. ah...I get it now after reading it 3 times lol. I thought you meant that Simpson was a bit of a duff player at first! Lol I suppose he still might turn out to be a bit duff. |
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Post by irverino on May 15, 2024 20:34:21 GMT 1
Would Hogg even sign a deal. I bet he could get better money as a squad player in the championship and i wouldn't want us to waste much budget on a league 1 squad player, which is surely what he will be now. Maybe, don't think Hoggy has played in the 3rd tier but unlike the last bloke who said he wouldn't drop down to tier 3 & ran off home I'm sure he will stay...........Don't think JH ever regretted signing for Town, but if he did at some point then it never showed & he just got on with the job in hand giving 100% everytime. |
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Post by dxterrier on May 15, 2024 20:44:45 GMT 1
Unpopular as this opinion will be but i'd be tempted to offer a year to Jordan Rhodes, I still think he will score goals in league 1, was good for Blackpool before getting injured. A decent pre season behind him and he is still capable of at least 10-15 goals. If he is not with us I would guess he will go to another league 1 team as can't see him going to a championship team and I'd rather his 10-15 goals be for us than a rival
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Post by dxterrier on May 15, 2024 20:52:32 GMT 1
Stearman, Boyle and Kasumu play to their level and are committed to the cause. We got exactly what we knew we were getting. Not world beaters but grafters. They were or still are rubbish. There is always a place in good teams for workers who give 100% Richard Logan under warnock(version 1) Always did the job he was asked to do and always gave 100% even though he was never a decent player |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 15, 2024 20:53:26 GMT 1
Would Hogg even sign a deal. I bet he could get better money as a squad player in the championship and i wouldn't want us to waste much budget on a league 1 squad player, which is surely what he will be now. That would require a Championship team to offer him a contract which seems highly unlikely. Why would any of them want a player who turns 36 this year and continues to struggle with numerous injuries? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2024 20:59:32 GMT 1
Unpopular as this opinion will be but i'd be tempted to offer a year to Jordan Rhodes, I still think he will score goals in league 1, was good for Blackpool before getting injured. A decent pre season behind him and he is still capable of at least 10-15 goals. If he is not with us I would guess he will go to another league 1 team as can't see him going to a championship team and I'd rather his 10-15 goals be for us than a rival Duff plays 2 up front as well so may suit him. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 15, 2024 21:01:17 GMT 1
Some absolute dross signed there’s no doubt about that. I wonder how some of them ever got pro contacts. Duff knows league one and he knows the championship level. For me there’s not many good enough for either and I include Kasumu - who is a trier but a poor footballer. It’ll be clear I think who Duff wants to keep and who he doesn’t rate even at league one level…
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