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Post by Fish & Chips on May 21, 2024 13:42:37 GMT 1
WFH doesn’t work where a high team effort is required. They all need to be in the building together as a team, rubbing off each other. I'm all for a good working environment and building together as a team but that might be taking it a bit far Ha Ha! I meant the team spirit and positivity rubbing off / bouncing off each other. English isn’t my first language, so please excuse my accidental faux pas. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2024 15:13:33 GMT 1
I'm all for a good working environment and building together as a team but that might be taking it a bit far Ha Ha! I meant the team spirit and positivity rubbing off / bouncing off each other. English isn’t my first language, so please excuse my accidental faux pas. Guessing from your username, I take it that your first language is Slovakian? |
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Post by ezzie on May 21, 2024 15:16:42 GMT 1
Love it Small details like this go a long way I hope they do the same with the changing rooms and interior corridors what is so dated I think about this often to be honest, the images we get to see of the changing rooms/tunnel area is genuinely league 2 standard it’s absolutely abysmal to say we’ve played in the premier league etc. Wooden benches, ill painted blue floors, 50p tables, honestly very amateur and needs a massive overhaul. I’m not a footballer but I’d be very well swayed by a club with modern facilities and a high tech dressing room.. rather than what we have with some wooden benches and a trip in a time capsule back 20 years… |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 21, 2024 21:38:47 GMT 1
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Post by gledholt terrier on May 21, 2024 22:42:55 GMT 1
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 22, 2024 0:08:13 GMT 1
Great to see continued improvement and investment. |
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Post by ritchie on May 22, 2024 0:59:27 GMT 1
Great job the club
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Post by Tinpot on May 22, 2024 6:48:07 GMT 1
Nice plaque they've put in there as you walk up the steps "The Karlan Grant Office Suite" Good name for the cupboard where they keep the fuse board. Because he's electric. Geddit? |
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Post by Tinpot on May 22, 2024 7:05:23 GMT 1
I wonder whether Kev lets them work from home. I have to say since COVID I think id struggle to concentrate in an open plan office like that. Great to see improvements though and that staff haven't been cut following relegation. Hope it all comes together next season for us. WFH doesn’t work where a high team effort is required. They all need to be in the building together as a team, rubbing off each other. I think it depends partly upon the individual and the office culture. My wife works from home and she gets far more done because she can just focus without being distracted by other people's conversations, or people popping by for a social chat. I expect it depends also upon the nature of what they do. I honestly don't know what our office staff are responsible for. I expect a bit of HR (which I see no reason you couldn't WFH most of the time), ticket sales (same). Media stuff would have to be on site but I'm not sure what else. I think the main takeaway from this is though, that at a time that would have been uncertain due to performance on the pitch, there's a clear commitment been made to those who would inevitably have been worried about the security of their employment. |
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Post by SacTown on May 22, 2024 7:41:55 GMT 1
WFH doesn’t work where a high team effort is required. They all need to be in the building together as a team, rubbing off each other. I think it depends partly upon the individual and the office culture. My wife works from home and she gets far more done because she can just focus without being distracted by other people's conversations, or people popping by for a social chat. I expect it depends also upon the nature of what they do. I honestly don't know what our office staff are responsible for. I expect a bit of HR (which I see no reason you couldn't WFH most of the time), ticket sales (same). Media stuff would have to be on site but I'm not sure what else. I think the main takeaway from this is though, that at a time that would have been uncertain due to performance on the pitch, there's a clear commitment been made to those who would inevitably have been worried about the security of their employment. To name a few: Commercial Finance HR IT Marketing Supporter Services All those functions need each other in some shape or form. Hybrid models can work, but take away regular FTF interaction and businesses suffer. |
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Post by araucaria on May 22, 2024 8:34:51 GMT 1
If the original KMC Leisure Services offices had been opulent, there could only have been criticism about waste of money from Council Taxpayers; so it's a good thing that they weren't.
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 22, 2024 9:20:54 GMT 1
WFH doesn’t work where a high team effort is required. They all need to be in the building together as a team, rubbing off each other. I think it depends partly upon the individual and the office culture. My wife works from home and she gets far more done because she can just focus without being distracted by other people's conversations, or people popping by for a social chat. I expect it depends also upon the nature of what they do. I honestly don't know what our office staff are responsible for. I expect a bit of HR (which I see no reason you couldn't WFH most of the time), ticket sales (same). Media stuff would have to be on site but I'm not sure what else. I think the main takeaway from this is though, that at a time that would have been uncertain due to performance on the pitch, there's a clear commitment been made to those who would inevitably have been worried about the security of their employment. If people can genuinely justify that their job can be done WFH rather than in the office, it essentially signals to their bosses that they can be replaced by someone else far cheaper in another country or continent. This is what the WFH advocates will be blindsided by and end up losing their jobs. I’m saying this in a broad sense not Town specific. I raise it because it reminds me of recent professional discussions on this topic in the FT and elsewhere. Bosses are doing it already. Be careful what you wish for. Personally, I believe that the functions you mention above should be carried out in the office. Those “distractions” are part of creating social bonds in the workplace, becoming a working family and whose overall output can be far greater together than the sum of its individual parts. The buzzword is ‘synergy’, but it’s a very real thing in successful organisations. |
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Post by mosher on May 22, 2024 9:51:12 GMT 1
I think it depends partly upon the individual and the office culture. My wife works from home and she gets far more done because she can just focus without being distracted by other people's conversations, or people popping by for a social chat. I expect it depends also upon the nature of what they do. I honestly don't know what our office staff are responsible for. I expect a bit of HR (which I see no reason you couldn't WFH most of the time), ticket sales (same). Media stuff would have to be on site but I'm not sure what else. I think the main takeaway from this is though, that at a time that would have been uncertain due to performance on the pitch, there's a clear commitment been made to those who would inevitably have been worried about the security of their employment. If people can genuinely justify that their job can be done WFH rather than in the office, it essentially signals to their bosses that they can be replaced by someone else far cheaper in another country or continent. This is what the WFH advocates will be blindsided by and end up losing their jobs. I’m saying this in a broad sense not Town specific. I raise it because it reminds me of recent professional discussions on this topic in the FT and elsewhere. Bosses are doing it already. Be careful what you wish for. Personally, I believe that the functions you mention above should be carried out in the office. Those “distractions” are part of creating social bonds in the workplace, becoming a working family and whose overall output can be far greater together than the sum of its individual parts. The buzzword is ‘synergy’, but it’s a very real thing in successful organisations.You also get a greater understanding of other peoples' roles within the company and you get cross-pollination of services and help. IE for the first 18 months of my job I was pretty much alone in the office, but in the past 6 months the transport manager/director Anes has been working from the office. Listening to his conversations with drivers, clients and delivery points I have a much better understanding of managing the haulage routes, mileage, tolls and the like and can now help him when needed, whereas before I didn't have a clue about that side of the business. The same with the finance director who now spends more time in the office rather than WFH. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 22, 2024 10:00:25 GMT 1
Working from home allows me to work for a London-based company with a hub in Manchester.
My two interviews were on Teams and the first time I met my boss in person was on my first day.
I go in once a week, and the rest of the time I work from home. I have regular meetings with my colleagues, sometimes at the drop of a hat. Everyone is accessible and in my opinion, the normalisation of home working is one of the good things to come out of COVID.
It's the way of the world now.
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Post by Mastercracker on May 22, 2024 10:12:47 GMT 1
Some credit should be given to Nagle here. A lot of folk claimed relegation was going to see redundancies at the club, instead we've seen a number of incomings and what looks like a much improved working environment. It looks like positive steps forward for a club that despite rising to the top tier, never shed its lower league back office, operations and staffing levels.
Now the hard part - Get things right on the pitch.
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Post by htfcterry on May 22, 2024 10:14:33 GMT 1
If people can genuinely justify that their job can be done WFH rather than in the office, it essentially signals to their bosses that they can be replaced by someone else far cheaper in another country or continent. This is what the WFH advocates will be blindsided by and end up losing their jobs. I’m saying this in a broad sense not Town specific. I raise it because it reminds me of recent professional discussions on this topic in the FT and elsewhere. Bosses are doing it already. Be careful what you wish for. Personally, I believe that the functions you mention above should be carried out in the office. Those “distractions” are part of creating social bonds in the workplace, becoming a working family and whose overall output can be far greater together than the sum of its individual parts. The buzzword is ‘synergy’, but it’s a very real thing in successful organisations.You also get a greater understanding of other peoples' roles within the company and you get cross-pollination of services and help. IE for the first 18 months of my job I was pretty much alone in the office, but in the past 6 months the transport manager/director Anes has been working from the office. Listening to his conversations with drivers, clients and delivery points I have a much better understanding of managing the haulage routes, mileage, tolls and the like and can now help him when needed, whereas before I didn't have a clue about that side of the business. The same with the finance director who now spends more time in the office rather than WFH. This is probably one of the biggest debates since covid. It really depends what you do in the company and the type of person you are/what motivates you. A lot of roles benefit from people bouncing ideas off each other and learning about each others day to day roles to be in a place to be able to help. However, as a BDM going after new business, I really don't need to be around my colleagues every single day. I'm constantly just speaking/meeting new customers, once a month for my role is enough (for me and them 🤣). I don't think there is a right and wrong answer to any of this, if you have a set up at home which half resembles an office and somewhere you can work then you're likely to be more productive whilst not distracted. If you're in any sales capacity, its the number at the end of the month/quarter that matters. |
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Post by dugnet on May 22, 2024 10:31:01 GMT 1
Some credit should be given to Nagle here. A lot of folk claimed relegation was going to see redundancies at the club, instead we've seen a number of incomings and what looks like a much improved working environment. It looks like positive steps forward for a club that despite rising to the top tier, never shed its lower league back office, operations and staffing levels. Now the hard part - Get things right on the pitch. It shows a level of commitment and professionalism, that points to how Mr Nagle wants the club to be run. I think it is important to create an environment and atmosphere that allows people to flourish, this is also true for the footballing side, and this looks likely to achieve that. It certainly doesn't feel like a club that doesn't have ambitions to be better. As you say we do need to get things right on the pitch but everyone enjoying their work goes a long way to getting people pulling together. It is only a small thing but it certainly offers some confidence (for the future). |
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Post by ben1987 on May 22, 2024 11:01:02 GMT 1
Some credit should be given to Nagle here. A lot of folk claimed relegation was going to see redundancies at the club, instead we've seen a number of incomings and what looks like a much improved working environment. It looks like positive steps forward for a club that despite rising to the top tier, never shed its lower league back office, operations and staffing levels. Now the hard part - Get things right on the pitch. I’ve been a big critic of Nagle (on balance I’ve been critical of the two previous owners) but this is a big positive step forward for all the reasons you mentioned above. Well done to everyone involved. |
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Post by SacTown on May 22, 2024 11:07:11 GMT 1
Some credit should be given to Nagle here. A lot of folk claimed relegation was going to see redundancies at the club, instead we've seen a number of incomings and what looks like a much improved working environment. It looks like positive steps forward for a club that despite rising to the top tier, never shed its lower league back office, operations and staffing levels. Now the hard part - Get things right on the pitch. The incomings are only sexy titles replacing the ones who have been removed from equivalent roles : The Global brand guy is the outlier. A real strange one... |
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Post by Tinpot on May 22, 2024 11:44:12 GMT 1
I think it depends partly upon the individual and the office culture. My wife works from home and she gets far more done because she can just focus without being distracted by other people's conversations, or people popping by for a social chat. I expect it depends also upon the nature of what they do. I honestly don't know what our office staff are responsible for. I expect a bit of HR (which I see no reason you couldn't WFH most of the time), ticket sales (same). Media stuff would have to be on site but I'm not sure what else. I think the main takeaway from this is though, that at a time that would have been uncertain due to performance on the pitch, there's a clear commitment been made to those who would inevitably have been worried about the security of their employment. If people can genuinely justify that their job can be done WFH rather than in the office, it essentially signals to their bosses that they can be replaced by someone else far cheaper in another country or continent. This is what the WFH advocates will be blindsided by and end up losing their jobs. I’m saying this in a broad sense not Town specific. I raise it because it reminds me of recent professional discussions on this topic in the FT and elsewhere. Bosses are doing it already. Be careful what you wish for. Personally, I believe that the functions you mention above should be carried out in the office. Those “distractions” are part of creating social bonds in the workplace, becoming a working family and whose overall output can be far greater together than the sum of its individual parts. The buzzword is ‘synergy’, but it’s a very real thing in successful organisations. Fair points. Must admit I hadn't thought of that. |
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Post by bluestripe on May 22, 2024 11:56:22 GMT 1
I don't know if Bradford City have similar offices decked out in their team colours. But imagine that assault on your eyes on a Monday morning going into the office. 🤪
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Post by incognito on May 22, 2024 12:11:36 GMT 1
Some credit should be given to Nagle here. A lot of folk claimed relegation was going to see redundancies at the club, instead we've seen a number of incomings and what looks like a much improved working environment. It looks like positive steps forward for a club that despite rising to the top tier, never shed its lower league back office, operations and staffing levels. Now the hard part - Get things right on the pitch. The incomings are only sexy titles replacing the ones who have been removed from equivalent roles : The Global brand guy is the outlier. A real strange one... True. But the two coming in both bring with them substantial, relevant experience from serious English football clubs. The Villa guy, in particular, will have seen some incredible spreadsheets over the last 8 years! Particularly valuable when you have a 'rookie' CEO, HTAFC 'lifer' COO, and a Chairman on the other side of the world. |
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Post by SacTown on May 22, 2024 12:26:08 GMT 1
The incomings are only sexy titles replacing the ones who have been removed from equivalent roles : The Global brand guy is the outlier. A real strange one... True. But the two coming in both bring with them substantial, relevant experience from serious English football clubs. The Villa guy, in particular, will have seen some incredible spreadsheets over the last 8 years! Particularly valuable when you have a 'rookie' CEO, HTAFC 'lifer' COO, and a Chairman on the other side of the world. True, but to qualify it, the Villa guy was not the No1 there so now owns the responsibility. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on May 22, 2024 12:36:29 GMT 1
Some nice design work involved there too. These deep blue graphics with the Castle Hill, Stars and Terrier icons are so much slicker than previous stuff from Town, looks good. Agree with the post above regarding the corridors and changing rooms too, hopefully this is all the start of a process that will see these updated in due course. When viewing the Unrestricted videos ours always looked really dated compared to other clubs.
I kind of understand the reasons why they don't want to update the club logo so soon after taking over, but it's a shame because it seems like now is an ideal time to go for it. Not many seem to like the dog graphic, nobody seems to like the shield, and the whole club is talking about big resets and a change in standards etc. Come on Kev, finish these nice graphics and offices off with a modern looking logo for us and drag us into the modern times, you know you want to.
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Post by crux on May 22, 2024 12:49:05 GMT 1
True. But the two coming in both bring with them substantial, relevant experience from serious English football clubs. The Villa guy, in particular, will have seen some incredible spreadsheets over the last 8 years! Particularly valuable when you have a 'rookie' CEO, HTAFC 'lifer' COO, and a Chairman on the other side of the world. True, but to qualify it, the Villa guy was not the No1 there so now owns the responsibility. If he'd been No1 at Villa he wouldn't have come to Town! |
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Post by incognito on May 22, 2024 13:20:31 GMT 1
True. But the two coming in both bring with them substantial, relevant experience from serious English football clubs. The Villa guy, in particular, will have seen some incredible spreadsheets over the last 8 years! Particularly valuable when you have a 'rookie' CEO, HTAFC 'lifer' COO, and a Chairman on the other side of the world. True, but to qualify it, the Villa guy was not the No1 there so now owns the responsibility. I think you are doing him a disservice there. 'Not the No1' in the sense that he and all the other functional heads reported in to a newly-created 'President of Business Operations' during his final few months, but he'd been the lead finance guy ('Finance Director') since they did away with the CFO title in 2016. Looks to me like they've had a recent influx of US hedge-fund types at board level as they try to really push the business on and some of the old guard have been invited to seek alternative employment. |
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Post by detox on May 22, 2024 13:41:36 GMT 1
We could slip another 47 stars on our badges, etc
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Post by bluestripe on May 22, 2024 14:11:32 GMT 1
Some nice design work involved there too. These deep blue graphics with the Castle Hill, Stars and Terrier icons are so much slicker than previous stuff from Town, looks good. Agree with the post above regarding the corridors and changing rooms too, hopefully this is all the start of a process that will see these updated in due course. When viewing the Unrestricted videos ours always looked really dated compared to other clubs. I kind of understand the reasons why they don't want to update the club logo so soon after taking over, but it's a shame because it seems like now is an ideal time to go for it. Not many seem to like the dog graphic, nobody seems to like the shield, and the whole club is talking about big resets and a change in standards etc. Come on Kev, finish these nice graphics and offices off with a modern looking logo for us and drag us into the modern times, you know you want to. Translated for you. Come on Kev, stick your head in the lion's mouth with the thankless task of designing a new logo which will polarise the hard core fan base and result in a lot of noise on social media. Meanwhile 80% of supporters are likely to barely care. |
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Post by SacTown on May 22, 2024 14:31:40 GMT 1
True, but to qualify it, the Villa guy was not the No1 there so now owns the responsibility. I think you are doing him a disservice there. 'Not the No1' in the sense that he and all the other functional heads reported in to a newly-created 'President of Business Operations' during his final few months, but he'd been the lead finance guy ('Finance Director') since they did away with the CFO title in 2016. Looks to me like they've had a recent influx of US hedge-fund types at board level as they try to really push the business on and some of the old guard have been invited to seek alternative employment. In that case he'll be well versed in how to help us smash through the EFL's PSR rules like Villa did in reaching the EPL  |
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