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Post by monkbar on Jun 7, 2024 20:14:51 GMT 1
From watching the vids seems stadium control is just down to getting a deal agreed with Uncle Ken.
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Post by Sio on Jun 7, 2024 20:58:56 GMT 1
Clearly just a matter of time before we / Kev own the ground
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Post by schindlersmissed on Jun 7, 2024 21:03:00 GMT 1
Clearly just a matter of time before we / Kev own the ground My understanding is it’ll be manage it rather than own it on basis that Council won’t sell a community asset |
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Post by dalesterrier on Jun 7, 2024 21:08:27 GMT 1
Clearly just a matter of time before we / Kev own the ground My understanding is it’ll be manage it rather than own it on basis that Council won’t sell a community asset But won't contribute any money towards it 🤷 Can't see KN going for that. There's prime real estate there that he will want to develop and which should have developed years ago. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 7, 2024 21:20:45 GMT 1
My understanding is it’ll be manage it rather than own it on basis that Council won’t sell a community asset But won't contribute any money towards it 🤷 Can't see KN going for that. There's prime real estate there that he will want to develop and which should have developed years ago. Huddersfield is dead on its feet, what they going to develop? Have you been in the Town Centre lately? The golf driving range has closed down, the Rope Walk gone, Pizza Hut gone, I'm surprised the cinema is still going. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 7, 2024 21:24:59 GMT 1
But won't contribute any money towards it 🤷 Can't see KN going for that. There's prime real estate there that he will want to develop and which should have developed years ago. Huddersfield is dead on its feet, what they going to develop? Have you been in the Town Centre lately? The golf driving range has closed down, the Rope Walk gone, Pizza Hut gone, I'm surprised the cinema is still going. A driving range would make sense, especially top golf style. The game is booming at the moment on the back of all these YouTube channels like Good Good, Rick Shiels, Golf Life etc. Willow Valley and Bradley Park are nearly always full at peak times. Not sure how much work it would take to get it going again but definitely worth looking at. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 7, 2024 23:01:29 GMT 1
I believe that it has more to do with control and seeing what is getting done. Why? I manage a team over five diff locations globally - all of whom work remotely. Never had an issue with the output and can’t feasibly be in the same time-zone and location There are many simple ways in which output can be controlled; either through targets or quality checks - they either meet the levels or they don’t, irregardless of where they sit. If trust is an issue, maybe it’s more to do with the role and motivation. If businesses let go of the traditional ways of thinking, efficiency, morale and the bottom line can all be increased. Different companies have different products and are managed in different ways. Not every company can be run to the same efficiency spread across different locations and then there is a lot of old style management that can't get used to different strategies. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jun 8, 2024 9:27:58 GMT 1
But won't contribute any money towards it 🤷 Can't see KN going for that. There's prime real estate there that he will want to develop and which should have developed years ago. Huddersfield is dead on its feet, what they going to develop? Have you been in the Town Centre lately? The golf driving range has closed down, the Rope Walk gone, Pizza Hut gone, I'm surprised the cinema is still going. There’s a Vue going in to King Street, so difficult to see a future for the out of town one. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jun 8, 2024 10:15:34 GMT 1
Clearly just a matter of time before we / Kev own the ground My understanding is it’ll be manage it rather than own it on basis that Council won’t sell a community asset My understanding is that Kirklees don't have a pot to p*ss in because of years of bad management How can they retain an asset like a Stadium while closing the last Museum in the borough (Tolson), shutting swimming pools, cutting budgets to vulnerable adults etc. Yes central government has cut spending but Kirklees - unlike other councils - seem incapable of running a budget The Stadium not generated the money it was hoped it would in Public hands - probably cost us money - so in my view time to sell and see if someone else (Nagle) can do better with it. It's just so badly managed, for example why no concert this summer? Things like that bring a boost to the local economy There's also good potential with the Conferencing facilities but they're not had a lick of paint in 30 years I also don't think the hotel was a bad idea in the Boxes. Surely in a day of AirBnb that's something that could be revisited for pretty low cost Lots of potential |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jun 8, 2024 10:21:29 GMT 1
But won't contribute any money towards it 🤷 Can't see KN going for that. There's prime real estate there that he will want to develop and which should have developed years ago. Huddersfield is dead on its feet, what they going to develop? Have you been in the Town Centre lately? The golf driving range has closed down, the Rope Walk gone, Pizza Hut gone, I'm surprised the cinema is still going. Will be interesting what happens when the second cinema opens in the old House of Fraser building. As you say the Town can barely support one cinema - with free parking and tickets for a fiver - so no idea on the business case for one in the Town centre One advantage for Town is that there's lot of - you assume - cheap commercial space around the ground. So if/as we expand as a club it will be easy to keep the organisation together. Alternatively buy the space and rent it out. Huddersfield doesn't have one decent commercial park so if the cinema goes (hopefully not) then that space would be a good space for Commercial/ office premises Hopefully Cartwright has his office in the Stadium and the new manager is in the office at the training ground (based on what Warnock said) |
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Post by leroy212 on Jun 8, 2024 13:55:56 GMT 1
If the council are brassic would they be open to selling some of the land around the ground, that town could delevop
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Post by royrace on Jun 8, 2024 14:08:21 GMT 1
But won't contribute any money towards it 🤷 Can't see KN going for that. There's prime real estate there that he will want to develop and which should have developed years ago. Huddersfield is dead on its feet, what they going to develop? Have you been in the Town Centre lately? The golf driving range has closed down, the Rope Walk gone, Pizza Hut gone, I'm surprised the cinema is still going. Complete shit hole these days but surely that's an opportunity. There's literally nothing else anywhere near town worth a visit so if they can do something decent around the stadium it should hopefully save people travelling to other cities. |
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Post by Horney Barry on Jun 8, 2024 14:33:13 GMT 1
Kev’s deal must be nearly over the line.
I wonder if he’ll pick up the HD1 project? A driving range would be a welcomed returned. A floodlit, double tier one with American bells and whistles on it.
Bars, restaurants and a proper megastore alongside the river would be great. I always liked what Bolton did with their megastore having a similar style stadium to us.
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Post by desertstorm on Jun 8, 2024 14:41:10 GMT 1
Clearly just a matter of time before we / Kev own the ground My understanding is it’ll be manage it rather than own it on basis that Council won’t sell a community asset The council don’t have a choice! |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 8, 2024 16:35:52 GMT 1
My understanding is it’ll be manage it rather than own it on basis that Council won’t sell a community asset My understanding is that Kirklees don't have a pot to p*ss in because of years of bad management How can they retain an asset like a Stadium while closing the last Museum in the borough (Tolson), shutting swimming pools, cutting budgets to vulnerable adults etc. Yes central government has cut spending but Kirklees - unlike other councils - seem incapable of running a budget The Stadium not generated the money it was hoped it would in Public hands - probably cost us money - so in my view time to sell and see if someone else (Nagle) can do better with it. It's just so badly managed, for example why no concert this summer? Things like that bring a boost to the local economy There's also good potential with the Conferencing facilities but they're not had a lick of paint in 30 years I also don't think the hotel was a bad idea in the Boxes. Surely in a day of AirBnb that's something that could be revisited for pretty low cost Lots of potential Stop talking sense. This is Kirklees Council in charge. Just look at Halifax and Brighouse, even Sowerby Bridge. Blossoming after years of being dives. The council could learn a thing or two about how to run a town centre. Maybe they should look to sell the stadium and land off but negotiate some form of cut for any annual profits. I’m not a businessman but there’s surely a way. |
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Post by nutjacker on Jun 8, 2024 16:51:03 GMT 1
Kirklees really must be one of the most inept councils in the country, they are a disgrace.
I come under Barnsley council, a smaller town than Huddersfield but their town centre is now thriving. Calderdale are also streets ahead of Kirklees by the sound of it.
Sad to see what’s become of our town centre, it really is depressing these days. Hopefully once this deal is finally over the line Mr Nagle can & will invest in the stadium and surroundings as it badly needs it
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Post by leroy212 on Jun 8, 2024 17:16:13 GMT 1
My understanding is that Kirklees don't have a pot to p*ss in because of years of bad management How can they retain an asset like a Stadium while closing the last Museum in the borough (Tolson), shutting swimming pools, cutting budgets to vulnerable adults etc. Yes central government has cut spending but Kirklees - unlike other councils - seem incapable of running a budget The Stadium not generated the money it was hoped it would in Public hands - probably cost us money - so in my view time to sell and see if someone else (Nagle) can do better with it. It's just so badly managed, for example why no concert this summer? Things like that bring a boost to the local economy There's also good potential with the Conferencing facilities but they're not had a lick of paint in 30 years I also don't think the hotel was a bad idea in the Boxes. Surely in a day of AirBnb that's something that could be revisited for pretty low cost Lots of potential Stop talking sense. This is Kirklees Council in charge. Just look at Halifax and Brighouse, even Sowerby Bridge. Blossoming after years of being dives. The council could learn a thing or two about how to run a town centre. Maybe they should look to sell the stadium and land off but negotiate some form of cut for any annual profits. I’m not a businessman but there’s surely a way. They should be happy with the money for the 40%. No way should they be getting a cut of any profits, especially since it will be nagle putting in any money to upgrade stuff |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 9, 2024 9:25:13 GMT 1
Kirklees C has room for improvement, but it’s far from alone.
Maybe the Tories cutting local budgets by a shit load over the last 14 yrs has something to do with it?
They have made some daft decisions in the past though, the Chinese granite in St George’s Square was a disgrace, and I’m sure they’ve been profligate in many other areas, but it ain’t all about that.
As for developing this area, I’ve never understood how you can make this into a thriving place all year round, the location is crap for people getting there easily.
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Post by runner76 on Jun 9, 2024 9:31:48 GMT 1
Huddersfield is dead on its feet, what they going to develop? Have you been in the Town Centre lately? The golf driving range has closed down, the Rope Walk gone, Pizza Hut gone, I'm surprised the cinema is still going. There’s a Vue going in to King Street, so difficult to see a future for the out of town one. Not Vue, it’s a chain called The Light. Decent cinemas. When that opens I expect ODEON might close, so more land free down there…… |
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Post by detox on Jun 9, 2024 10:42:15 GMT 1
The council will be raking in council(business) tax from the stadium site, even more if it's totally redeveloped, with new concessions coming in...but keeping the 40% share while not investing a penny in it is just not on although it's not unlike them leasing land/properties in the town centre for businesses to develop at their own expense I suppose.. So long as KMC don't expect a share of any profits if there ever is any. 100% agree about the driving range, closed down because of the 'imminent' HDOne project (haha..) ..what was it 10 years ago, more? stood idle all that time...earning zilch for anybody.
The fate of the complex behind the North stand if the cinema shuts might just deliver a great opportunity for that key site...potentially a 'mega store', sports bar for fans , snooker, pool, weights room, physio, Sky Tv, catering and bars, coffee shop...meeting rooms..accommodation .or simply demolish and it's somewhere to put the away fans coaches so they can go in the lower tier right next to it...? I'm sure KN will have ideas.
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Post by SacTown on Jun 9, 2024 11:43:14 GMT 1
Huddersfield is dead on its feet, what they going to develop? Have you been in the Town Centre lately? The golf driving range has closed down, the Rope Walk gone, Pizza Hut gone, I'm surprised the cinema is still going. Will be interesting what happens when the second cinema opens in the old House of Fraser building. As you say the Town can barely support one cinema - with free parking and tickets for a fiver - so no idea on the business case for one in the Town centre One advantage for Town is that there's lot of - you assume - cheap commercial space around the ground. So if/as we expand as a club it will be easy to keep the organisation together. Alternatively buy the space and rent it out. Huddersfield doesn't have one decent commercial park so if the cinema goes (hopefully not) then that space would be a good space for Commercial/ office premises Hopefully Cartwright has his office in the Stadium and the new manager is in the office at the training ground (based on what Warnock said) Disagree re M C office. He oversees football operations- the training ground is exactly where he should reside, although not necessarily taking the managers office. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2024 12:01:53 GMT 1
Kirklees C has room for improvement, but it’s far from alone. Maybe the Tories cutting local budgets by a shit load over the last 14 yrs has something to do with it? They have made some daft decisions in the past though, the Chinese granite in St George’s Square was a disgrace, and I’m sure they’ve been profligate in many other areas, but it ain’t all about that. As for developing this area, I’ve never understood how you can make this into a thriving place all year round, the location is crap for people getting there easily. I agree regarding central government cuts but they are awful at planning and seeing things through. The Piazza, as I understand it, is pretty much closed down after all the plans to develop it. Holmfirth market was closed last year and hasn’t had a thing done, while the market stalls have all been pushed outside by Crown Bottom car park. Kingsgate 2 never happened if I remember it correctly. It is just too big. Large areas which require huge social funding and the whole thing is just too large. For me it should be split into separate areas and a town the size of Huddersfield have its own council. The only areas doing OK are places like Marsden, Holmfirth and Slaithwaite, and that is mostly by local people and local businesses and not KC. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 9, 2024 12:27:56 GMT 1
Kirklees really must be one of the most inept councils in the country, they are a disgrace. I come under Barnsley council, a smaller town than Huddersfield but their town centre is now thriving. Calderdale are also streets ahead of Kirklees by the sound of it. Sad to see what’s become of our town centre, it really is depressing these days. Hopefully once this deal is finally over the line Mr Nagle can & will invest in the stadium and surroundings as it badly needs it Kirklees hasa two town centres and they seem intent on closing Huddersfield down and moving it to Dewsbury. Citizens Advice, Police station etc. For some reason we are closing the hospital down bit by bit and moving it to Halifax. I am glad I moved away years ago. |
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Post by stinkypete on Jun 9, 2024 14:37:10 GMT 1
Will be interesting what happens when the second cinema opens in the old House of Fraser building. As you say the Town can barely support one cinema - with free parking and tickets for a fiver - so no idea on the business case for one in the Town centre One advantage for Town is that there's lot of - you assume - cheap commercial space around the ground. So if/as we expand as a club it will be easy to keep the organisation together. Alternatively buy the space and rent it out. Huddersfield doesn't have one decent commercial park so if the cinema goes (hopefully not) then that space would be a good space for Commercial/ office premises Hopefully Cartwright has his office in the Stadium and the new manager is in the office at the training ground (based on what Warnock said) Disagree re M C office. He oversees football operations- the training ground is exactly where he should reside, although not necessarily taking the managers office. He hasn’t taken the managers office, I was in there a few weeks ago. Maybe Mr Warnock likes to bend the truth! |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 9, 2024 14:41:34 GMT 1
Disagree re M C office. He oversees football operations- the training ground is exactly where he should reside, although not necessarily taking the managers office. He hasn’t taken the managers office, I was in there a few weeks ago. Maybe Mr Warnock likes to bend the truth! Hasn't Maynard confirmed that Cartwright took the manager's office? |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 9, 2024 14:44:01 GMT 1
He hasn’t taken the managers office, I was in there a few weeks ago. Maybe Mr Warnock likes to bend the truth! Hasn't Maynard confirmed that Cartwright took the manager's office? Cartwright "Bot" waste of time responding to them. |
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Post by conman on Jun 9, 2024 15:03:14 GMT 1
The town centre is a total disgrace , and just when you think it can't get any worse , week by week it does .
We've got friends from Liverpool , a couple of years ago they came over for the weekend . I went to the match with him and my wife went town centre shopping (maybe time for a quick drink after) with her . Needless to say , we met the 'shoppers' after the match in Lloyds and they were both well on their way to being shitfaced.. They'd done every nail bar , Turkish barbers , pound shop , vape shop , charity shop and even time to window shop the empty shops thrown in in about 30 mins..
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Post by stinkypete on Jun 9, 2024 15:06:33 GMT 1
Hasn't Maynard confirmed that Cartwright took the manager's office? Cartwright "Bot" waste of time responding to them. Love how much Cartwright bothers some of you lot. Sad little men 😂 |
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Post by Sio on Jun 9, 2024 15:12:01 GMT 1
Cartwright "Bot" waste of time responding to them. Love how much Cartwright bothers some of you lot. Sad little men 😂  |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 9, 2024 15:13:57 GMT 1
Cartwright "Bot" waste of time responding to them. Love how much Cartwright bothers some of you lot. Sad little men 😂 Someone F%<\ing up your club and you are happy  |
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