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Post by terriersyndrome on May 21, 2024 9:10:15 GMT 1
We need a solid base of experienced players to help reset the club, show the younger lads how to conduct themselves in training, on matchday and representing the club in general. Rodriguez is a top pro and I'm sure he'd do well at this level.
Players like Matty James to add to the leadership would be a good foundation to work from aswell. Then you can add some younger players with an appetite learn and improve.
It seemed like the 'bellend brigade' had taken over the asylum and that needs stamping out straight away.
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Post by boooothy on May 21, 2024 9:15:29 GMT 1
If the alternative is Devante Cole, sign him up!
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Post by Dan on May 21, 2024 9:24:12 GMT 1
Listened to a podcast with him and Ben Foster a few months back. Clearly a good character and one of the good types we need to be looking at to replace the tossers. He said to Foster at the time he reckoned he had another 2 years playing, so clearly that's what he's holding out for contract wise... open.spotify.com/episode/5YsMJcnrcElUZW5Knp2L0o |
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Post by Sio on May 21, 2024 9:29:32 GMT 1
By Alan Nixon Stoke City and Huddersfield Town are battling for Burnley veteran striker Jay Rodriguez. The experienced hit man is set to leave the Clarets after his second spell at Turf Moor. Terriers new boss Michael Duff is keen on his former team mate and also has the same agent. However Stoke are keen and also have Championship football to offer. Battle of the Beswicks |
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Post by Terriersmad on May 21, 2024 9:33:38 GMT 1
Rodriguez is a clever player, and always has been. I did have in my head that he wasn't the most prolific of strikers, but a quick glance at his statistics suggests otherwise: 146 career goals in 350 starts and 173 substitute appearances. Not bad going for a player who did suffer a big injury quite early in his career as a Southampton player. Very good at bringing others in to play, vast experience, and definitely offers something different from our current striking options. All while bagging not far short of a goal every third game in the top two divisions of English football for 15 years.
Age aside, I'm a fan of us going in for him. Even then, would he be expected to play week-in, week-out with our other options? If we were to bring him in, he'd be a real coup and statement of intent. You'd imagine Stoke have a footballing advantage, being able to offer Championship football, but hopefully him being mates with Duff would count for something.
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Post by unclembenza on May 21, 2024 11:01:42 GMT 1
Do we need another striker?
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on May 21, 2024 11:12:02 GMT 1
Do we need another striker? We need a good one |
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Post by Dan on May 21, 2024 11:13:48 GMT 1
Do we need another striker? If Duff plays 2 up top in a 3-5-2, and we're looking to offload Hudlin, Simpson and maybe Harratt, then we probably do. I imagine Bojan's agent will be sounding out offers abroad as well. If we were to somehow start next season with a strike force in League 1 of Healey, Rodriguez, Radulovic and Ward it would be quite something and would be twice as good as the strike force we started the last Championship season with. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 21, 2024 11:18:24 GMT 1
So about 4/5 years ago when he was at WBA I was chatting some lass I’d met online. She was mates with his wife and when she was pissed on a night out with his Mrs they went back to their house and she put me on FaceTime randomly to him (Jay Rod). Anyway neither of us knew what to say and it was the most awkward 30 seconds of all time but he didn’t tell me to fuck off so I guess what I’m saying is…..sign him up based on that. I once got a random text off my mum saying “me and your dad are on a night out in Birmingham with Marc Albrighton. Lovely lad, he’s bought all our drinks”. I think it turned out they knew his wife’s parents, but I’ve always wanted us to sign him after that. |
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Post by tepidterrier on May 21, 2024 12:44:03 GMT 1
He'd be better than any we have currently. Teams need 4 strikers at most nowadays. Rodriguez, Healey, Bojan, and Ward would have enough. Shift Harratt, Simpson, Hudlin, and Phillips. I'd rather shift Ward and keep one of the younger lads (Except Hudlin). Ideally another cf, who has less question marks regarding ability or fitness than Healey, Radulovic and Rodriguez would have, comes in to compete. I considered the same when writing the post actually. Phillips got 7 in 20 in one of his loan spells in League one a couple of seasons ago as well. I think Simpson might be a dud. I like Hudlin but he's way off in terms of quality. Harratt I'm not sure about with his off pitch antics. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 21, 2024 12:46:37 GMT 1
Do we need another striker? My boss at work is a Bolton fan. He spent a good half an hour lamenting their performance at the weekend, one of the things he said that stood out was "in this league you need to be solid at the back and have good strikers." If we're going to be playing 2 up top you want 4 of a similar quality. We don't have that at the minute. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on May 21, 2024 12:50:09 GMT 1
Do we need another striker? My boss at work is a Bolton fan. He spent a good half an hour lamenting their performance at the weekend, one of the things he said that stood out was "in this league you need to be solid at the back and have good strikers." Not being facetious, but in what league in the world don't you need that? |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on May 21, 2024 12:56:28 GMT 1
Do we need another striker? After watching Kyle Hudlin play up front on his own for a month last year with Sorba a country mile away from him. I would say without a doubt, yes. Can rarely have too many when you want to win a league. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 21, 2024 13:01:22 GMT 1
My boss at work is a Bolton fan. He spent a good half an hour lamenting their performance at the weekend, one of the things he said that stood out was "in this league you need to be solid at the back and have good strikers." Not being facetious, but in what league in the world don't you need that? I suppose the point was, you can get away with a workmanlike midfield in league 1 as long as you’ve got good strikers. Less of a need for playmakers, which you need in the champ and prem. |
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Post by alexdire on May 21, 2024 14:09:58 GMT 1
Do we need another striker? My boss at work is a Bolton fan. He spent a good half an hour lamenting their performance at the weekend, one of the things he said that stood out was "in this league you need to be solid at the back and have good strikers." If we're going to be playing 2 up top you want 4 of a similar quality. We don't have that at the minute. Oh yes we do have four strikers of a similar quality 😉 |
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Post by philstarbuckscoffee on May 21, 2024 17:12:42 GMT 1
I dare say I’d be very excited about him joining. He is a player I have always liked watching wherever he has been. Got a lovely touch and always seemed quite classy in how he plays.
I had similar sentiment for Anthony Knockaert. Always liked watching him for other clubs and when he signed for us on loan I’d hoped we would get to see him in some good moments for Town.
So despite how optimistic I will be about Rodriguez if it comes off, the AK experience will temper my enthusiasm until we get to see him perform.
Love a bit of pre-season optimism though! Nice to be able to get a bit excited ahead of a new season for the first time in ages. UTT
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Post by boooothy on May 21, 2024 17:45:18 GMT 1
I dare say I’d be very excited about him joining. He is a player I have always liked watching wherever he has been. Got a lovely touch and always seemed quite classy in how he plays. I had similar sentiment for Anthony Knockaert. Always liked watching him for other clubs and when he signed for us on loan I’d hoped we would get to see him in some good moments for Town. So despite how optimistic I will be about Rodriguez if it comes off, the AK experience will temper my enthusiasm until we get to see him perform. Love a bit of pre-season optimism though! Nice to be able to get a bit excited ahead of a new season for the first time in ages. UTT I thought Anthony Knockhaert looked good from what we saw. Warnock just didn’t want him having crossed paths before. |
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Post by Lovechops on May 21, 2024 18:00:55 GMT 1
I dare say I’d be very excited about him joining. He is a player I have always liked watching wherever he has been. Got a lovely touch and always seemed quite classy in how he plays. I had similar sentiment for Anthony Knockaert. Always liked watching him for other clubs and when he signed for us on loan I’d hoped we would get to see him in some good moments for Town. So despite how optimistic I will be about Rodriguez if it comes off, the AK experience will temper my enthusiasm until we get to see him perform. Love a bit of pre-season optimism though! Nice to be able to get a bit excited ahead of a new season for the first time in ages. UTT I thought Anthony Knockhaert looked good from what we saw. Warnock just didn’t want him having crossed paths before. Totally agree think when he did play was a class above , seemed involved sat on bucket out of dugout watching game looked as tho wanted to be involved think he would have been an asset but another one NW didn’t want but the club needed. |
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Post by rockwall on May 22, 2024 6:59:10 GMT 1
Do we need another striker? My boss at work is a Bolton fan. He spent a good half an hour lamenting their performance at the weekend, one of the things he said that stood out was "in this league you need to be solid at the back and have good strikers." If we're going to be playing 2 up top you want 4 of a similar quality. We don't have that at the minute. Well done to your boss for pointing out what all successful teams have! |
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 22, 2024 7:17:30 GMT 1
Building a team for the Premier league in 2 years by buying players capable of playing 10 years ago...
Not for me unless he replaces hogg or lees in the squad as a senior pro. Appreciate he would be a good signing for the level, but think we need a full reset, not around the block pros looking for a final contract.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on May 22, 2024 7:36:08 GMT 1
My boss at work is a Bolton fan. He spent a good half an hour lamenting their performance at the weekend, one of the things he said that stood out was "in this league you need to be solid at the back and have good strikers." If we're going to be playing 2 up top you want 4 of a similar quality. We don't have that at the minute. Well done to your boss for pointing out what all successful teams have! In fairness to the above poster, he did go on to clarify the point: we needed a Mooy to get us out of the Championship. Leicester needed Dewsbury-Hall. John McGinn practically carried Villa to the Premier League (with a little help from Grealish). You probably don't need a 'star' midfielder to get you out of L1 if your midfield are organised, hardworking and fit - and you have the other two things mentioned above in place. |
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Post by durhamterrier on May 22, 2024 16:03:21 GMT 1
Well done to your boss for pointing out what all successful teams have! In fairness to the above poster, he did go on to clarify the point: we needed a Mooy to get us out of the Championship. Leicester needed Dewsbury-Hall. John McGinn practically carried Villa to the Premier League (with a little help from Grealish). You probably don't need a 'star' midfielder to get you out of L1 if your midfield are organised, hardworking and fit - and you have the other two things mentioned above in place. I look back to what got us in the playoffs 3 years in a row : 2 decent strikers Experience in centre midfield Attacking wingers and full backs Not one of our centre mids was particularly creative or cultured |
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Post by Ross83 on May 22, 2024 17:02:47 GMT 1
Building a team for the Premier league in 2 years by buying players capable of playing 10 years ago... Not for me unless he replaces hogg or lees in the squad as a senior pro. Appreciate he would be a good signing for the level, but think we need a full reset, not around the block pros looking for a final contract. I've listened to both interviews and I honestly think those days are gone. I doubt Duff will accept that kind of signing, especially one he knows so well. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 22, 2024 20:07:40 GMT 1
In fairness to the above poster, he did go on to clarify the point: we needed a Mooy to get us out of the Championship. Leicester needed Dewsbury-Hall. John McGinn practically carried Villa to the Premier League (with a little help from Grealish). You probably don't need a 'star' midfielder to get you out of L1 if your midfield are organised, hardworking and fit - and you have the other two things mentioned above in place. I look back to what got us in the playoffs 3 years in a row : 2 decent strikers Experience in centre midfield Attacking wingers and full backs Not one of our centre mids was particularly creative or cultured O’Brian was one of the best midfielders in the league that year. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 22, 2024 22:56:51 GMT 1
I look back to what got us in the playoffs 3 years in a row : 2 decent strikers Experience in centre midfield Attacking wingers and full backs Not one of our centre mids was particularly creative or cultured O’Brian was one of the best midfielders in the league that year. I find it utterly astounding how underrated Obrien is by town fans (to the point some were saying Rudoni is better - LOL!) |
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Post by midlander on May 23, 2024 0:01:22 GMT 1
Pretty sure Durhamterrier is referring to the three consecutive POs in League 1 so quite why O'Brien is being thrown into the equation, I have no idea. The lad was probably playing on the streets of Colchester at that time.
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Post by ldotm on May 23, 2024 10:06:29 GMT 1
I look back to what got us in the playoffs 3 years in a row : 2 decent strikers Experience in centre midfield Attacking wingers and full backs Not one of our centre mids was particularly creative or cultured O’Brian was one of the best midfielders in the league that year. In fairness I wouldn’t class LOB as “creative” he wasn’t a playmaker. But I haven’t seen much better at Champ level than him when it comes to his engine and agility, the way he’d press and win the ball in dangerous areas, never giving teams room to breathe was so effective. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on May 23, 2024 10:09:50 GMT 1
O’Brian was one of the best midfielders in the league that year. In fairness I wouldn’t class LOB as “creative” he wasn’t a playmaker. But I haven’t seen much better at Champ level than him when it comes to his engine and agility, the way he’d press and win the ball in dangerous areas, never giving teams room to breathe was so effective. Yep. LOB was yet another case of us selling our best asset with no real succession plan in place. Here's hoping we learn these lessons this summer. We should always have a list of 3 - 5 players for every position that we've done our homework on and are ready to pursue if we sell any player. |
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Post by royrace on May 23, 2024 10:30:58 GMT 1
In fairness I wouldn’t class LOB as “creative” he wasn’t a playmaker. But I haven’t seen much better at Champ level than him when it comes to his engine and agility, the way he’d press and win the ball in dangerous areas, never giving teams room to breathe was so effective. Yep. LOB was yet another case of us selling our best asset with no real succession plan in place. Here's hoping we learn these lessons this summer. We should always have a list of 3 - 5 players for every position that we've done our homework on and are ready to pursue if we sell any player. I guess it was Kassumu which is laughable really, replace probably the best CM in the league with a young lad from the bottom of league one. Replace one of the best LB in the league with Ruffles, a bang average L1 LB. Then get the academy coach to manage the team, then a total rookie. It's unbelievable really that the new regime then managed to make even worse decisions. Took some beating:D At least Dean Hoyle had the excuse that he was desperately trying to claw back as much money as possible, or avoid pumping more in! These loons were aiming for the PL from a position of strength  |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 23, 2024 10:31:56 GMT 1
Pretty sure Durhamterrier is referring to the three consecutive POs in League 1 so quite why O'Brien is being thrown into the equation, I have no idea. The lad was probably playing on the streets of Colchester at that time. I mis-read it, thought he was talking about the Corberan play-off run. Our play-offs under Clarke were 15 years ago though, and we were up against some quality players/teams in the league at that point. We were in the play-offs one year because Southampton had Lallana, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Jose Fonte, Rickie Lambert and Morgan Schneiderlin in the team. Insane quality for the third tier, even if most of them were early in their career. |
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