bogart
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Post by bogart on Jun 22, 2024 15:23:12 GMT 1
Slight tangent. Does anyone remember those spogs as a kid that were called Torpedoes? Hard shiny coloured shell, sweet, but with a piece of hard liquorice in the centre? Teeth breakers if you crunched them. Anyhow, yes, let’s hope Iorpenda makes waves next season and doesn’t submerge as firing blanks. Yes i used to like them, think you could get small ones and bigger ones. Like most things! |
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Post by four4two on Jun 22, 2024 16:44:04 GMT 1
Can you stop being so positive?  I just don't see the point of blindly hoping that someone we have only seen very little of is going to be a major player for us in the coming season. don’t think anyone is suggesting he’ll be a major player for us this season. I think he’ll start to break into the team more from the bench. I’d put money on we’ll all be singing his praises come April. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 22, 2024 17:01:36 GMT 1
Yeah, I'm hoping to see a bit of him this season but (like Hogg at the opposite end of his career) I would hope we're not relying on him to be a major player this season.
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Post by goodbet on Jun 22, 2024 17:50:15 GMT 1
I just don't see the point of blindly hoping that someone we have only seen very little of is going to be a major player for us in the coming season. don’t think anyone is suggesting he’ll be a major player for us this season. I think he’ll start to break into the team more from the bench. I’d put money on we’ll all be singing his praises come April. I hope he does well for us but I will not get carried away just yet. |
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Aug 14, 2024 0:26:25 GMT 1
Thought he was superb tonight. I've got really high hopes for him. Broke play up, played intelligently and had a good shot on target.
Well played Tom!
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 14, 2024 2:37:29 GMT 1
Got a really good young player here, hope we’ve got him tied down on a long term contract.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 14, 2024 8:50:22 GMT 1
I liked what I saw in pre-season but he looked a real talent last night. The lad has everything in his locker to be a top player for us.
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Post by four4two on Sept 3, 2024 20:50:17 GMT 1
Bump. Needs a start in Division 3.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Sept 3, 2024 21:25:03 GMT 1
Bump. Needs a start in Division 3. Maybe in the #6 role. |
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Post by pterrier on Sept 3, 2024 22:19:44 GMT 1
According to duff he’s still got to ‘do a lot better’ and needs to improve the ‘ugly side of his game’.
No he doesn’t Michael, we don’t need an ugly Hogg player. We are crying out for someone who can go past players and pick a pass or shock horror, be able to control a football!
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Post by BlueValour on Sept 3, 2024 22:31:25 GMT 1
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 3, 2024 22:57:45 GMT 1
According to duff he’s still got to ‘do a lot better’ and needs to improve the ‘ugly side of his game’. No he doesn’t Michael, we don’t need an ugly Hogg player. We are crying out for someone who can go past players and pick a pass or shock horror, be able to control a football! I just checked the interview to hear it for myself, you've removed all context there and also misheard him. Duff was very complimentary and said 'he's getting better at landing on the ugly part of the game', said he stood out and was strong for 95 minutes tonight after looking leggy in his previous games. |
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Post by pterrier on Sept 3, 2024 23:00:12 GMT 1
According to duff he’s still got to ‘do a lot better’ and needs to improve the ‘ugly side of his game’. No he doesn’t Michael, we don’t need an ugly Hogg player. We are crying out for someone who can go past players and pick a pass or shock horror, be able to control a football! I just checked the interview to hear it for myself, you've removed all context there and also misheard him. Duff was very complimentary and said 'he's getting better at landing on the ugly part of the game', said he stood out and was strong for 95 minutes tonight after looking leggy in his previous games. Not really, he said he needs to get a lot better and said he needs to work on the ugly side of the game. The lad has barely played so not entirely sure how he can have looked ‘leggy’; Duff has lost the plot if he thinks that Hogg is a better option than this guy in the 6 role. Iorpenda might have a long way to go but he deserves a lot more minutes than he’s currently getting in the league. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 3, 2024 23:17:04 GMT 1
Thanks! He really needs to start getting game time this year, Hogg needs to be faded out and Hodge becomes the DM while Iorpenda comes off the bench. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 3, 2024 23:40:55 GMT 1
I just checked the interview to hear it for myself, you've removed all context there and also misheard him. Duff was very complimentary and said 'he's getting better at landing on the ugly part of the game', said he stood out and was strong for 95 minutes tonight after looking leggy in his previous games. Not really, he said he needs to get a lot better and said he needs to work on the ugly side of the game. The lad has barely played so not entirely sure how he can have looked ‘leggy’; Duff has lost the plot if he thinks that Hogg is a better option than this guy in the 6 role. Iorpenda might have a long way to go but he deserves a lot more minutes than he’s currently getting in the league. "He's someone we really like, Tom. He's got a big future at the football club. I think he's got a lot to do, but no I thought he stood out. He's 6 foot 3, can glide past people, he's powerful, he's getting better at landing on the ugly part of the game, that's what he needs to improve, that sort of out of possession midfield part of- when they've got it what you're doing, in transitions what you're doing. Because we know what he can do with the ball. I thought he looked leggy in the couple of games he played earlier in the season but I thought he looked strong for 95 minutes today." I think your reading of those words isn't very generous, he's criticising him a bit but it's in a measured way and cloaked in lots of praise. I would like Iorpenda to be starting over Hogg too btw. I think the cogs are turning and he's getting closer to a starting spot every time he plays. It's also notable that Duff feels able to be blunt and honest about him in public, which not the case with Hogg or in fact most of the senior players, such is their fragility. |
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Post by Amigo on Sept 3, 2024 23:46:23 GMT 1
I just checked the interview to hear it for myself, you've removed all context there and also misheard him. Duff was very complimentary and said 'he's getting better at landing on the ugly part of the game', said he stood out and was strong for 95 minutes tonight after looking leggy in his previous games. Not really, he said he needs to get a lot better and said he needs to work on the ugly side of the game. The lad has barely played so not entirely sure how he can have looked ‘leggy’; Duff has lost the plot if he thinks that Hogg is a better option than this guy in the 6 role. Iorpenda might have a long way to go but he deserves a lot more minutes than he’s currently getting in the league. Think you're really focusing on the negatives of what Duff said. Just watched the interview and he said he knows what he can do with the ball and he can glide past players it's the ugly side of the game he needs to work on. Nothing wrong with that at all he can't just say he's a brilliant all round player because that's basically telling the lad he's made it when he hasn't. Also the "leggy" comment is probably right based on the Morecambe game when he and Sorensen were the best players in the first half but he dropped off in the 2nd half. Purely down to overall fitness and strength and lack of number of competitive games, again nothing wrong with that and he complimented him saying he looked strong for 95 minutes. Far more positive than negative about him. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Sept 4, 2024 2:43:43 GMT 1
Its hard for young players coming in because not only are you trying to get up to speed but in some ways it's going to be an even harder test than it should be because you'll be targeted. So you not only need to be good enough to play in the team, but you need to be good enough to withstand the focused attention of the opposition.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 4, 2024 6:22:41 GMT 1
He can pass a ball unlike so of his more senior midfielders.
You have to give young players a chance, if they are good enough they are old enough. Why did he not start against Walsall ? Give him game time !
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Post by Metch on Sept 4, 2024 6:44:08 GMT 1
He can pass a ball unlike so of his more senior midfielders. You have to give young players a chance, if they are good enough they are old enough. Why did he not start against Walsall ? Give him game time ! This is what's so frustrating in the modern game, particularly at Town. If they have the talent, play them. Look at Yamal, only 16 years old. Eccleston is getting rave reviews at Barrow and is playing every week and they'd probably beat us at the moment as they're near the top of league two. Yet we play Turton, Hogg and Ruffels who are fading lights due to injury and age. Iorpenda and Eccleston will end up only playing a handful of games for us before we sell them. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Sept 4, 2024 6:57:30 GMT 1
Thanks! He really needs to start getting game time this year, Hogg needs to be faded out and Hodge becomes the DM while Iorpenda comes off the bench. Agree - Hogg needs to be faded out over the next couple of weeks. |
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Post by four4two on Sept 4, 2024 8:19:35 GMT 1
According to duff he’s still got to ‘do a lot better’ and needs to improve the ‘ugly side of his game’. No he doesn’t Michael, we don’t need an ugly Hogg player. We are crying out for someone who can go past players and pick a pass or shock horror, be able to control a football! Think we’ve got enough players doing ugly football right now. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 4, 2024 10:09:14 GMT 1
I think that some of our more senior midfield players have aspects of their game that needs to improve also!
What I saw last night from Iorpenda, was composure, great technique and the welcome ability to drive at our opponents.
I have a feeling that both he and Kane will end up playing key parts for us this season.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 4, 2024 11:15:27 GMT 1
Thanks! He really needs to start getting game time this year, Hogg needs to be faded out and Hodge becomes the DM while Iorpenda comes off the bench. Agree - Hogg needs to be faded out over the next couple of weeks. More likely we will get a re-repeat, not fade away…. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 4, 2024 11:30:12 GMT 1
He can pass a ball unlike so of his more senior midfielders. You have to give young players a chance, if they are good enough they are old enough. Why did he not start against Walsall ? Give him game time ! This is what's so frustrating in the modern game, particularly at Town. If they have the talent, play them. Look at Yamal, only 16 years old. Eccleston is getting rave reviews at Barrow and is playing every week and they'd probably beat us at the moment as they're near the top of league two. Yet we play Turton, Hogg and Ruffels who are fading lights due to injury and age. Iorpenda and Eccleston will end up only playing a handful of games for us before we sell them. Agreed. You have to play talent in your team to convince them they have a future at the club. Then give them a decent contract and sell them for big bucks when the time is right. |
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Post by belizian on Sept 4, 2024 11:56:07 GMT 1
I think that some of our more senior midfield players have aspects of their game that needs to improve also! What I saw last night from Iorpenda, was composure, great technique and the welcome ability to drive at our opponents. I have a feeling that both he and Kane will end up playing key parts for us this season. The coaches need to train that driving forward at the opponents out of him. Otherwise he won't fit in with the rest of the mid field. |
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Post by SN0W on Sept 6, 2024 15:35:13 GMT 1
THE TORPEDO.(that's what we call him, thanks to misreading small print and trying to work out what the guy on the tannoy is saying. But, if he lives up to that name it won't be a bad thing).
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 6, 2024 15:50:25 GMT 1
THE TORPEDO.(that's what we call him, thanks to misreading small print and trying to work out what the guy on the tannoy is saying. But, if he lives up to that name it won't be a bad thing). TOM IORPENDA I, TORPEDO MAN |
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 6, 2024 16:41:05 GMT 1
He can pass a ball unlike so of his more senior midfielders. You have to give young players a chance, if they are good enough they are old enough. Why did he not start against Walsall ? Give him game time ! This is what's so frustrating in the modern game, particularly at Town. If they have the talent, play them. Look at Yamal, only 16 years old. Eccleston is getting rave reviews at Barrow and is playing every week and they'd probably beat us at the moment as they're near the top of league two. Yet we play Turton, Hogg and Ruffels who are fading lights due to injury and age. Iorpenda and Eccleston will end up only playing a handful of games for us before we sell them. You make a very good point here. Young players need lots of game time to develop. Otherwise they stagnate and go backwards. Hogg should have been fazed out a number of years ago, with Camara coming in and replacing him. However on Turton and Ruffles, they are only really playing in the cups essentially. Yes both were on the bench for the Rotherham match, but one of them was because Healey pulled out in the warm up and the other due to Pearson being suspended. Plus Balker and Spencer injured. They are essentially squad players, who are cover for injuries / suspensions. For their role in the squad, you either used old pro's who are good to have around the squad or young players coming through. Duff had a look at our squad early doors and decided to go with the old pro route in Turton and Ruffles, rather than young lads such as Ayina. In the window we signed a young left footed CB from Villa Aaron O'Reilly. I would think the hope would be that in a few months time, he will come into the first team squad as essentially 7th's choice CD and replace Ruffles. Indeed if he does well and Balker recovers from injury successfully, it wouldn't surprise me to see both Ruffles & Pearson leave in January. Leaving our CB options being Helik, Balker, Lunwijk, Spencer, Lees, O'Reilly, Turton With regards to Eccleston, we brought Sorenson in. If Eccleston hadn't have gone on Loan, he'd be unlikely to be getting much game time. Certainly not as much as he is at Barrow. I am sure the plan is to leave him there for the season. Hopefully play 40+ games and then challenge Sorenson for a starting place. They key will be what we do with him next season, as he has to keep playing in order to keep developing. The other side of the coin is, if you put them in too early and play them too much, then it can destroy them. Diarra would be a good example of that. Went on Loan to Harrogate as a 17 year old and did excellently. Was supposed to then go on loan to League 1, but got injured so stayed with us. We then threw him in to Championship games when he was nowhere near ready and should have been playing L1 or L2 level. He ended up being shit (which is not easy for me to say) and is still without a club. It's a balancing act. But I agree that Town have messed it up more times than not over the last few seasons. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 7, 2024 19:08:32 GMT 1
I have a good feeling about this lad. Mind you, we have had other prospects at a similar stage who haven't kicked on. The thing in Iorpenda's favour is that he is not French.
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Post by crux on Sept 7, 2024 20:59:36 GMT 1
I have a good feeling about this lad. Mind you, we have had other prospects at a similar stage who haven't kicked on. The thing in Iorpenda's favour is that he is not French. Or under 5 foot 9. |
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