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Post by Floyds on Sept 7, 2024 21:36:40 GMT 1
Get the lad in the team.
If I were stuck behind Wiles, Hogg and Evans I’d start to question things.
If he’s not up to it - fine - but you don’t know until you try.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 8, 2024 9:11:22 GMT 1
Personally I'd want to play both Iorpenda and Hodge. Only issue is they're both so early in their careers that putting them both in risks a horrendously inexperienced midfield. Ideally one in at a time and I suspect Hodge is ahead of him in the pecking order.
The Wiles/Hogg/Evans triumvirate does need breaking up though.
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Post by pterrier on Sept 8, 2024 10:27:27 GMT 1
Personally I'd want to play both Iorpenda and Hodge. Only issue is they're both so early in their careers that putting them both in risks a horrendously inexperienced midfield. Ideally one in at a time and I suspect Hodge is ahead of him in the pecking order. The Wiles/Hogg/Evans triumvirate does need breaking up though. The current ‘triumvirate’ is the slowest midfield I’ve ever witnessed us having in my 36 years as a town fan.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 8, 2024 15:19:54 GMT 1
Personally I'd want to play both Iorpenda and Hodge. Only issue is they're both so early in their careers that putting them both in risks a horrendously inexperienced midfield. Ideally one in at a time and I suspect Hodge is ahead of him in the pecking order. The Wiles/Hogg/Evans triumvirate does need breaking up though. Not sure I still being in the value of experience over the exhuberance and confidence of youth. Teams like Sunderland showing how to get on with it.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 8, 2024 15:59:00 GMT 1
Personally I'd want to play both Iorpenda and Hodge. Only issue is they're both so early in their careers that putting them both in risks a horrendously inexperienced midfield. Ideally one in at a time and I suspect Hodge is ahead of him in the pecking order. The Wiles/Hogg/Evans triumvirate does need breaking up though. Not sure I still being in the value of experience over the exhuberance and confidence of youth. Teams like Sunderland showing how to get on with it. Yeah, maybe. There's a big part of me that says stick them both in. I just struggle to get past that lack of experience being an issue in the long term. Short term I could absolutely see it working, but at some stage they're likely to drop off and the older (still not that old) players having to be brought back, when if there's only one of them, the older heads (and when I say older, I mean the 25 year olds of Kane, Evans & Wiles) can help them through a bit more. At the very least something needs to change. What the best version of that change looks like I'm not sure, but after a promising start we look to have been found out.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 8, 2024 21:41:45 GMT 1
Not sure I still being in the value of experience over the exhuberance and confidence of youth. Teams like Sunderland showing how to get on with it. Yeah, maybe. There's a big part of me that says stick them both in. I just struggle to get past that lack of experience being an issue in the long term. Short term I could absolutely see it working, but at some stage they're likely to drop off and the older (still not that old) players having to be brought back, when if there's only one of them, the older heads (and when I say older, I mean the 25 year olds of Kane, Evans & Wiles) can help them through a bit more. At the very least something needs to change. What the best version of that change looks like I'm not sure, but after a promising start we look to have been found out. Very true. Young players sometimes burst on the scene and everyone raves, but very soon get found out and performances drop off.
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Post by Floyds on Sept 9, 2024 9:44:14 GMT 1
Personally I'd want to play both Iorpenda and Hodge. Only issue is they're both so early in their careers that putting them both in risks a horrendously inexperienced midfield. Ideally one in at a time and I suspect Hodge is ahead of him in the pecking order. The Wiles/Hogg/Evans triumvirate does need breaking up though. The current ‘triumvirate’ is the slowest midfield I’ve ever witnessed us having in my 36 years as a town fan. Must be up there with the worst passing and non existent movement too. Hodge and Iorpenda against Bolton for me too. As an aside, Neo Ecclesten seems to be doing well at Barrow. I'd have kept him and loaned out Turton/Ruffels/both.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 25, 2024 11:12:29 GMT 1
Isn't it time to give this lad an opportunity in the first team? He has looked like our best midfielder in the few short cameos he has had.
He isn't a kid.
Get him in.
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Post by crux on Sept 25, 2024 12:42:06 GMT 1
Isn't it time to give this lad an opportunity in the first team? He has looked like our best midfielder in the few short cameos he has had. He isn't a kid. Get him in. No point picking him if we continue to play this shite system with ONE midfield player in the middle of the pitch and the other two about 5 yards in from the touchline on either side!
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Post by shawsie on Sept 25, 2024 20:33:39 GMT 1
Isn't it time to give this lad an opportunity in the first team? He has looked like our best midfielder in the few short cameos he has had. He isn't a kid. Get him in. No point picking him if we continue to play this shite system with ONE midfield player in the middle of the pitch and the other two about 5 yards in from the touchline on either side! Spot on.....close the three together and allow the wing backs some room. Iorpenda cant do worse than wiles - we might as well have played with 10 in the last 2 games
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 26, 2024 9:17:47 GMT 1
I can't believe how this lad has been overlooked and not even on the bench. He looked great in that game he played in the cup. I'm starting to think Duff is too set in his ways. Games are won from winning the midfield battle. Pack midfield and go again. 4 5 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2024 10:09:52 GMT 1
No point picking him if we continue to play this shite system with ONE midfield player in the middle of the pitch and the other two about 5 yards in from the touchline on either side! Spot on.....close the three together and allow the wing backs some room. Iorpenda cant do worse than wiles - we might as well have played with 10 in the last 2 games The 3 central midfielders are supposed to be a holder and 2 who are box to box, supporting going forward and back. Its a team within the team and they move and support each other to move the ball forward or move back as a unit to defend the central areas. Hodge was all over the shop the other night, the other two were miles away from him and each other most of the game. Individuals playing as such isnt working for us.
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Post by shawsie on Sept 26, 2024 14:17:08 GMT 1
Spot on.....close the three together and allow the wing backs some room. Iorpenda cant do worse than wiles - we might as well have played with 10 in the last 2 games The 3 central midfielders are supposed to be a holder and 2 who are box to box, supporting going forward and back. Its a team within the team and they move and support each other to move the ball forward or move back as a unit to defend the central areas. Hodge was all over the shop the other night, the other two were miles away from him and each other most of the game. Individuals playing as such isnt working for us. I know what they are "supposed" to be doing - i'm just at a loss to understand why evans and wiles are so wide most of the time - it restricts the wing backs and leaves the midfield central area isolated to say the least. There's a complete lack of apparent plan - Duff has to see it now because we all have, and whilst stubbornness is a good trait at times we simply cant go on like this - last sat was as poor as i have seen in many years given the limitations of the opposition. Two things HAVE to happen immediately:- 1. The errors simply have to stop - I know Duff cant do anything about these once they are on the pitch, but ffs some of them wouldnt look out of place in u10s football. 2. There has to be an increased workrate and tempo to what we do - if the current lot wont do it then drop em and put someone else in. Outplayed is one thing - outrun/outfought is another.
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Post by crux on Sept 26, 2024 14:31:41 GMT 1
Spot on.....close the three together and allow the wing backs some room. Iorpenda cant do worse than wiles - we might as well have played with 10 in the last 2 games The 3 central midfielders are supposed to be a holder and 2 who are box to box, supporting going forward and back. Its a team within the team and they move and support each other to move the ball forward or move back as a unit to defend the central areas. Hodge was all over the shop the other night, the other two were miles away from him and each other most of the game. Individuals playing as such isnt working for us. The 3 midfield players have never worked like that this season. Hogg has been close to being a holder, but in reality is just an auxiliary defender sitting in front of the back 3. He, along with the back 3, hasn't got the passing ability to get us going forward. The other 2 midfield players, no matter who has been selected, are playing around 5 to 10 yards from their relative touchline and about 20 yards away from where Hogg has been playing. There's a massive gap between them and teams have worked it out, as well as the massive gaps behind the wing-backs. 3-5-2 is a difficult formation to play correctly and we're playing it about as badly as I've ever seen it done!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2024 21:01:27 GMT 1
Tall, composed on the ball, good passing range, strong in the tackle. Not what we're crying for in midfield at all...
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Post by Arbie 1976. on Sept 26, 2024 21:24:26 GMT 1
Personally I'd want to play both Iorpenda and Hodge. Only issue is they're both so early in their careers that putting them both in risks a horrendously inexperienced midfield. Ideally one in at a time and I suspect Hodge is ahead of him in the pecking order. The Wiles/Hogg/Evans triumvirate does need breaking up though. The current ‘triumvirate’ is the slowest midfield I’ve ever witnessed us having in my 36 years as a town fan. agree they are both at the beginning of their careers and inexperienced but we have so called experienced professionals who also are not performing or able to work scenarios out, so why not try the youth. UTT.
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Post by BlueValour on Sept 28, 2024 1:26:28 GMT 1
Anyone got any /reliable/ info as to where he was born? Wikipedia keeps alternating between London and Morrocco! Could do with a good source!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 8:15:51 GMT 1
Anyone got any /reliable/ info as to where he was born? Wikipedia keeps alternating between London and Morrocco! Could do with a good source! I know he grew up in Brighton, he came through the academy there and I am of a similar age and live round there so know some friends of his
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Post by jackys on Sept 28, 2024 8:17:12 GMT 1
Anyone got any /reliable/ info as to where he was born? Wikipedia keeps alternating between London and Morrocco! Could do with a good source! From this article link - it says Iorpenda is a Nigerian born wonderkid and mentions his Dad was an ex footballer coming from the Benue state in northern Nigeria.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Oct 1, 2024 21:53:32 GMT 1
When is Iorpenda going to be given a chance. He has tried every other midfielder multiple times and they continue to be shit.
Give him a game ffs.
Play Hodge, Kasumu and Iorpenda and tell Kasumu he is the one to sit.
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