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Post by pterrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:10:21 GMT 1
Disclaimer: This isn’t a knee jerk reaction tonight but rather my observations from all the games so far this season.
This system is exactly the same shape that we had under Moore when we played 3-5-2; the only difference is against better teams they pushed our wingbacks into full backs but the rest is the same. The biggest flaw in the system is the huge gaps between the centre midfield three which leaves us so short of options when trying to play out from the back. Two of the midfielders (exactly the same as under Moore) play as inverted wingers and as a result never get on the ball and unfortunately that leaves Hogg (terrible under pressure) as the pivot!
The second main problem with the system is the centre backs who are too far apart and it’s easy to find gaps in the system, further compounded by the lack of protection offered by our one holding midfielder (who also happens to be completely immobile).
For me there is two solutions.
Option A: rethink the tactical approach and positions
Option B: invest in the suitable personnel to play the way you want to.
If neither happens then we aren’t going up I’m afraid
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:14:49 GMT 1
Disclaimer: This isn’t a knee jerk reaction tonight but rather my observations from all the games so far this season. This system is exactly the same shape that we had under Moore when we played 3-5-2; the only difference is against better teams they pushed our wingbacks into full backs but the rest is the same. The biggest flaw in the system is the huge gaps between the centre midfield three which leaves us so short of options when trying to play out from the back. Two of the midfielders (exactly the same as under Moore) play as inverted wingers and as a result never get on the ball and unfortunately that leaves Hogg (terrible under pressure) as the pivot! The second main problem with the system is the centre backs who are too far apart and it’s easy to find gaps in the system, further compounded by the lack of protection offered by our one holding midfielder (who also happens to be completely immobile). For me there is two solutions. Option A: rethink the tactical approach and positions Option B: invest in the suitable personnel to play the way you want to. If neither happens then we aren’t going up I’m afraid It doesn’t help though when you have Headley playing out of his skin in one game and making the wing back system look amazing and then the next time he plays he looks like he’s just got out of bed after a 5 day bender. The way we wasted possession tonight was criminal. We never took the ball on the half turn, we constantly looked to go backwards first and when we did have space in front we just passed it clean out of play. Some flexibility in the formation probably is needed but you can’t legislate for the players lacking professionalism and application (1 or 2 aside). |
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Post by pterrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:24:33 GMT 1
Disclaimer: This isn’t a knee jerk reaction tonight but rather my observations from all the games so far this season. This system is exactly the same shape that we had under Moore when we played 3-5-2; the only difference is against better teams they pushed our wingbacks into full backs but the rest is the same. The biggest flaw in the system is the huge gaps between the centre midfield three which leaves us so short of options when trying to play out from the back. Two of the midfielders (exactly the same as under Moore) play as inverted wingers and as a result never get on the ball and unfortunately that leaves Hogg (terrible under pressure) as the pivot! The second main problem with the system is the centre backs who are too far apart and it’s easy to find gaps in the system, further compounded by the lack of protection offered by our one holding midfielder (who also happens to be completely immobile). For me there is two solutions. Option A: rethink the tactical approach and positions Option B: invest in the suitable personnel to play the way you want to. If neither happens then we aren’t going up I’m afraid It doesn’t help though when you have Headley playing out of his skin in one game and making the wing back system look amazing and then the next time he plays he looks like he’s just got out of bed after a 5 day bender. The way we wasted possession tonight was criminal. We never took the ball on the half turn, we constantly looked to go backwards first and when we did have space in front we just passed it clean out of play. Some flexibility in the formation probably is needed but you can’t legislate for the players lacking professionalism and application (1 or 2 aside). As I mentioned, my post isn’t directed to tonight’s game in isolation. I agree with all your points by the way, I’m just pointing out that it’s a flawed system which needs tweeking |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 27, 2024 22:37:58 GMT 1
Is it the system or the players? There is a debate as Duff’s methods have been successful whereas some of the starting eleven are now ingrained losers.
They can do it, hopefully tonight will be the shake they need. Rather this than lose to Rovrum.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:42:32 GMT 1
Disclaimer: This isn’t a knee jerk reaction tonight but rather my observations from all the games so far this season. This system is exactly the same shape that we had under Moore when we played 3-5-2; the only difference is against better teams they pushed our wingbacks into full backs but the rest is the same. The biggest flaw in the system is the huge gaps between the centre midfield three which leaves us so short of options when trying to play out from the back. Two of the midfielders (exactly the same as under Moore) play as inverted wingers and as a result never get on the ball and unfortunately that leaves Hogg (terrible under pressure) as the pivot! The second main problem with the system is the centre backs who are too far apart and it’s easy to find gaps in the system, further compounded by the lack of protection offered by our one holding midfielder (who also happens to be completely immobile). For me there is two solutions. Option A: rethink the tactical approach and positions Option B: invest in the suitable personnel to play the way you want to. If neither happens then we aren’t going up I’m afraid The system itself I like. What I don't like though is we do get exposed and often from the diagonal ball, and our defenders who seem to run in quicksand, and for some reason all seem a yard off it. The system can only work if you have good physical pace central defenders who can not only cover ground, but are comfortable with the ball at their feet. But, it also needs balance, it needs a left footed CB, and right footed CB, and a comfortable ball playing CB who can bring the ball up and into the midfield (Picture a John Stones type ball playing CB. Before pelters, I understand we're in league one and to mention a John Stones is silly.) Picture a Levi Colwill comfortability left footed CB, well there is one, and one that could be attainable and I've mentioned him on here before Johnly Yfeko on loan at Exeter from Glasgow Rangers. Any back back to the system and the need for it there to be paced defenders. Otherwise we'll be stretched and exposed not just down the channels, but in between each defender too. The system works well, when you have defender who can cover ground quickly, and/or are intelligent enough to know when a) to press and intercept a ball, and b). when to drop and not try and nick the ball. A system that requires a good ball playing #6, defensive mid, who can play in the transition, and most importantly who's good with the ball in tight spaces and on the half turn. Ability wise a Herbie Kane but a defensive minded midfielder but with his ability. Wingbacks are required to be fit, our current wingbacks are. So for the most part thats good. And a quality striker who can link up well, retain the ball, run in-between the lines of the defenders but also be clinical when we do get the goalscoring opportunities. We see all the time the bigger clubs buy a new GK because they need a GK to also be good with the ball at their feet, similar to that for Defenders as well. If we're wanting the system to work well, and very well in that, we're going to need some better personnel, we're not far off, but we can't wait for another window or 2 or 3. The club need to act, and act fast. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2024 22:43:57 GMT 1
The system is irrelevant while we've got a squad full of players who seem incapable of passing the ball to each other. The number of unforced errors when in possession is mental. I thought it was because we were in the championship playing against decent teams who pressure you quickly but evidently not
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Post by htafcdreams on Aug 27, 2024 22:45:19 GMT 1
Disclaimer: This isn’t a knee jerk reaction tonight but rather my observations from all the games so far this season. This system is exactly the same shape that we had under Moore when we played 3-5-2; the only difference is against better teams they pushed our wingbacks into full backs but the rest is the same. The biggest flaw in the system is the huge gaps between the centre midfield three which leaves us so short of options when trying to play out from the back. Two of the midfielders (exactly the same as under Moore) play as inverted wingers and as a result never get on the ball and unfortunately that leaves Hogg (terrible under pressure) as the pivot! The second main problem with the system is the centre backs who are too far apart and it’s easy to find gaps in the system, further compounded by the lack of protection offered by our one holding midfielder (who also happens to be completely immobile). For me there is two solutions. Option A: rethink the tactical approach and positions Option B: invest in the suitable personnel to play the way you want to. If neither happens then we aren’t going up I’m afraid Agree. Evans and Wiles seem to completely lost in midfield. They have been none existent and leave Hogg with the ball from deep and no options to pass to. Then the fans load up on Hogg saying he’s no good etc Wingbacks push far up the fiend and 3 slow CBs get punished each game, it’s the poor league 1 finishing or Nicholls which gets us out of jail. The front two often look isolated with ball playing CMs not getting on the ball The wingbacks are left knocking it into the box and goals from any defensive errors rather than finishing Headley and Soreson defensively to me have questions Our left side looks vulnerable esp on Saturday Miller looks very good all round, fingers crossed he keeps fit We’ve a squad of players who are in their later years of their career or some of them have had bad injuries/ reoccurring injuries- Lees, Pearson, Ruffles, Turton, Hogg, Ward, Healey, Balker, Radulavic, Kasumu, Jones I wonder by Duff saying in last weeks presser “he would be very happy if the squad remained as it is” will remove any further transfer by the club |
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Post by thorntoncterrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:45:42 GMT 1
It isn't the system, it isn't the manager. It is the players. Too many like Headley and Hogg who are crap.
Give new boss time to rebuild.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 23:04:35 GMT 1
Is it the system or the players? There is a debate as Duff’s methods have been successful whereas some of the starting eleven are now ingrained losers. They can do it, hopefully tonight will be the shake they need. Rather this than lose to Rovrum. It's the players. Too many aren't good enough, never have been good enough and never will be good enough. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 23:06:33 GMT 1
The system is irrelevant while we've got a squad full of players who seem incapable of passing the ball to each other. The number of unforced errors when in possession is mental. I thought it was because we were in the championship playing against decent teams who pressure you quickly but evidently not All the signs were there last season, but too many people ignored them and pretended we'd be fine this season. Duff is the real deal, just wish they'd let him completely overhaul the squad. We needed it and it hasn't happened. Too many of last season's losers remain and that losing mentality has come to the surface at the first sign of trouble. |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 27, 2024 23:08:52 GMT 1
It isn't the system, it isn't the manager. It is the players. Too many like Headley and Hogg who are crap. Give new boss time to rebuild. We all hope he will be given time, but he needs some more bricks to build with. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 23:16:22 GMT 1
Disclaimer: This isn’t a knee jerk reaction tonight but rather my observations from all the games so far this season. This system is exactly the same shape that we had under Moore when we played 3-5-2; the only difference is against better teams they pushed our wingbacks into full backs but the rest is the same. The biggest flaw in the system is the huge gaps between the centre midfield three which leaves us so short of options when trying to play out from the back. Two of the midfielders (exactly the same as under Moore) play as inverted wingers and as a result never get on the ball and unfortunately that leaves Hogg (terrible under pressure) as the pivot! The second main problem with the system is the centre backs who are too far apart and it’s easy to find gaps in the system, further compounded by the lack of protection offered by our one holding midfielder (who also happens to be completely immobile). For me there is two solutions. Option A: rethink the tactical approach and positions Option B: invest in the suitable personnel to play the way you want to. If neither happens then we aren’t going up I’m afraid It doesn’t help though when you have Headley playing out of his skin in one game and making the wing back system look amazing and then the next time he plays he looks like he’s just got out of bed after a 5 day bender. The way we wasted possession tonight was criminal. We never took the ball on the half turn, we constantly looked to go backwards first and when we did have space in front we just passed it clean out of play. Some flexibility in the formation probably is needed but you can’t legislate for the players lacking professionalism and application (1 or 2 aside). Headley has apparently 'played out of his skin' in one game ever. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 23:19:08 GMT 1
It doesn’t help though when you have Headley playing out of his skin in one game and making the wing back system look amazing and then the next time he plays he looks like he’s just got out of bed after a 5 day bender. The way we wasted possession tonight was criminal. We never took the ball on the half turn, we constantly looked to go backwards first and when we did have space in front we just passed it clean out of play. Some flexibility in the formation probably is needed but you can’t legislate for the players lacking professionalism and application (1 or 2 aside). Headley has apparently 'played out of his skin' in one game ever. Against Morecambe. Who were dreadful. |
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Post by theterrier42 on Aug 27, 2024 23:19:34 GMT 1
The system is irrelevant while we've got a squad full of players who seem incapable of passing the ball to each other. The number of unforced errors when in possession is mental. I thought it was because we were in the championship playing against decent teams who pressure you quickly but evidently not All the signs were there last season, but too many people ignored them and pretended we'd be fine this season. Duff is the real deal, just wish they'd let him completely overhaul the squad. We needed it and it hasn't happened. Too many of last season's losers remain and that losing mentality has come to the surface at the first sign of trouble. It’s an absolute travesty that we are starting this season with Ward, Hogg, Turton, Lees, Pearson, Ruffels, Harratt, Headley etc. I understand there has to be demand to get rid of players but it’s certainly not been the overhaul needed. I do believe we will be busy before Friday though! |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 23:20:43 GMT 1
All the signs were there last season, but too many people ignored them and pretended we'd be fine this season. Duff is the real deal, just wish they'd let him completely overhaul the squad. We needed it and it hasn't happened. Too many of last season's losers remain and that losing mentality has come to the surface at the first sign of trouble. It’s an absolute travesty that we are starting this season with Ward, Hogg, Turton, Lees, Pearson, Ruffels, Harratt, Headley etc. I understand there has to be demand to get rid of players but it’s certainly not been the overhaul needed. I do believe we will be busy before Friday though! I don't. The club never seem to learn, no matter who the owner is. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 23:21:31 GMT 1
Disclaimer: This isn’t a knee jerk reaction tonight but rather my observations from all the games so far this season. This system is exactly the same shape that we had under Moore when we played 3-5-2; the only difference is against better teams they pushed our wingbacks into full backs but the rest is the same. The biggest flaw in the system is the huge gaps between the centre midfield three which leaves us so short of options when trying to play out from the back. Two of the midfielders (exactly the same as under Moore) play as inverted wingers and as a result never get on the ball and unfortunately that leaves Hogg (terrible under pressure) as the pivot! The second main problem with the system is the centre backs who are too far apart and it’s easy to find gaps in the system, further compounded by the lack of protection offered by our one holding midfielder (who also happens to be completely immobile). For me there is two solutions. Option A: rethink the tactical approach and positions Option B: invest in the suitable personnel to play the way you want to. If neither happens then we aren’t going up I’m afraid The system itself I like. What I don't like though is we do get exposed and often from the diagonal ball, and our defenders who seem to run in quicksand, and for some reason all seem a yard off it. The system can only work if you have good physical pace central defenders who can not only cover ground, but are comfortable with the ball at their feet. But, it also needs balance, it needs a left footed CB, and right footed CB, and a comfortable ball playing CB who can bring the ball up and into the midfield (Picture a John Stones type ball playing CB. Before pelters, I understand we're in league one and to mention a John Stones is silly.) Picture a Levi Colwill comfortability left footed CB, well there is one, and one that could be attainable and I've mentioned him on here before Johnly Yfeko on loan at Exeter from Glasgow Rangers. Any back back to the system and the need for it there to be paced defenders. Otherwise we'll be stretched and exposed not just down the channels, but in between each defender too. The system works well, when you have defender who can cover ground quickly, and/or are intelligent enough to know when a) to press and intercept a ball, and b). when to drop and not try and nick the ball. A system that requires a good ball playing #6, defensive mid, who can play in the transition, and most importantly who's good with the ball in tight spaces and on the half turn. Ability wise a Herbie Kane but a defensive minded midfielder but with his ability. Wingbacks are required to be fit, our current wingbacks are. So for the most part thats good. And a quality striker who can link up well, retain the ball, run in-between the lines of the defenders but also be clinical when we do get the goalscoring opportunities. We see all the time the bigger clubs buy a new GK because they need a GK to also be good with the ball at their feet, similar to that for Defenders as well. If we're wanting the system to work well, and very well in that, we're going to need some better personnel, we're not far off, but we can't wait for another window or 2 or 3. The club need to act, and act fast. You're right except for one thing We're not far off, we're miles off. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 27, 2024 23:27:43 GMT 1
Duffs Barnsley side played 80 minutes at Wembley with a man less after a poor referee decision, they were the better side & were desperately unlucky in the end, but MD didn't stop his team attacking Wendies even with a man short & you do wonder if in extra time they tired because of this.....Tonight at 2-0 up down to ten the bus needed parking (IMO), is MD too stubborn not to do this or is his stance correct?
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Post by soapystevens on Aug 27, 2024 23:37:16 GMT 1
I wouldn't have parked the bus because we are not good enough even to defend a 2-0 lead all be it with ten men. I remember playing Forest at home about 12 years back and they were down to 9 men and out played us for most of the second half and we only got a late goal to make it 3-1. It might have been different if we had played at full strength but tonight's squad are all 1st team players, god help us if we get a lot of injuries.
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 27, 2024 23:41:11 GMT 1
Duff's teams tend to grow into seasons as slow starters. We've started unusually quickly for a side under him. That Barnsley side was very good, but lost 3 of their first 6 games in the league as they grew into the season; once it got going, from October, it was formidable, on a run of 23 wins in 35 games in all competitions, including some absolutely thumping wins. They wavered a little at the death.
We're not, in truth, too far short. We have frailties and failings, and I expect play-offs rather than automatic promotion. We still need 3 players for the system, as whatever personnel we play now, we're slightly unbalanced. We must have a left-sided central defender - we've seen the experiment with Spencer, and he's not comfortable there. Balker might be - and probably is - but he's injured. We must have a defensive midfielder comfortable in possession - with Hogg it just isn't working. And if we drop him, we lack an effective screen unless Kasumu alters his natural game of driving on between the lines - and I want him to cover right wing-back. And we need a striker. We've created a hatful of chances and not taken them.
A couple of players have yet to step up as expected. Evans was outstanding against Peterborough, but has been off the boil in the last two games. Kane is, unfortunately, injured so no natural replacement or fulcrum in the middle. Injuries have shown we are short and that's going to cost us. Iorpenda looked bright tonight in fairness to him, and if he's here we need to use him.
The issue is hardly the system. The issue tonight was players not doing things properly and, unfortunately, the manager getting his adjustments to 10 men wrong.
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Post by Amigo on Aug 28, 2024 7:58:36 GMT 1
I think the system is fine but the players in it are the problem.
The centre backs don't have any pace so that's why there are gaps at times, as well as that they aren't "footballers" so when they have possession they struggle. When teams are going to sit back and wait for us there's no point lumping it and we have to be patient and build, but because of the movement in front of them and their lack of ability on the ball they struggle.
Hogg plays in a 10 yard square next to the centre backs (the "he's here, he's there" etc.. chant couldn't be more laughable) which leaves a big gap in midfield between him, Wiles and Evans. He doesn't show for the ball enough either which gives the centre backs no options and when they do find him they get it straight back.
Evans and Wiles aren't defensively minded enough to drop back to help Hogg get moves started and only come to life in the final third. Wiles more so and as a side note his pass completion stats are actually way higher than I thought, 86% for a midfielder is pretty impressive.
The first choice wing backs are for this level generally very good.
Up front obviously we need another but with Koroma, Healey, Marshall, Radulovic, Ward, Harratt and Phillips to come back we also need to get rid of someone because that's 7 already. The first 4 I think are good options but 2 have regular niggles so definitely need another.
Mobile CDM, pacey CB and striker are clearly what's needed but I can definitely see this team getting better as the season goes on.
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 28, 2024 8:27:04 GMT 1
The system is irrelevant while we've got a squad full of players who seem incapable of passing the ball to each other. The number of unforced errors when in possession is mental. I thought it was because we were in the championship playing against decent teams who pressure you quickly but evidently not Looked like we were playing football on a cobbled street last night. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2024 8:33:39 GMT 1
That Morecambe game we had several players going past their defenders with ease,Headley was doing it too.
I thought then that Golcar Utd would have put up more of a performance than Morecambe.
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Post by deucebigalow77 on Aug 28, 2024 9:07:23 GMT 1
That Morecambe game we had several players going past their defenders with ease,Headley was doing it too. I thought then that Golcar Utd would have put up more of a performance than Morecambe. Absolutely no need to bring Golcar into this 😉 UTV |
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Post by royrace on Aug 28, 2024 9:29:22 GMT 1
I think the system is fine but the players in it are the problem. The centre backs don't have any pace so that's why there are gaps at times, as well as that they aren't "footballers" so when they have possession they struggle. When teams are going to sit back and wait for us there's no point lumping it and we have to be patient and build, but because of the movement in front of them and their lack of ability on the ball they struggle. Hogg plays in a 10 yard square next to the centre backs (the "he's here, he's there" etc.. chant couldn't be more laughable) which leaves a big gap in midfield between him, Wiles and Evans. He doesn't show for the ball enough either which gives the centre backs no options and when they do find him they get it straight back. Evans and Wiles aren't defensively minded enough to drop back to help Hogg get moves started and only come to life in the final third. Wiles more so and as a side note his pass completion stats are actually way higher than I thought, 86% for a midfielder is pretty impressive. The first choice wing backs are for this level generally very good. Up front obviously we need another but with Koroma, Healey, Marshall, Radulovic, Ward, Harratt and Phillips to come back we also need to get rid of someone because that's 7 already. The first 4 I think are good options but 2 have regular niggles so definitely need another. Mobile CDM, pacey CB and striker are clearly what's needed but I can definitely see this team getting better as the season goes on. Do our centre backs really need pace? How many pacey centre backs play in the championship or L1? Genuine question as I'm not sure. I've always thought though you don't necessarily need pace if your positional play is good enough. I don't remember Bruce or Pallister being quick and they did ok? Is it just a case of the three at the back getting used to the new formation and learning not to get involved in a foot race with a pacey forward without having a yard or two head start? Same old reaction after conceding goals, blame the keeper or the defenders. Whilst they certainly looked poor it would help if the rest of the team did their bit, non existent midfield, zero hold up play from the forwards. It was interesting to see Harrat against L2 opposition, reminds me of his two poor loan stints. Ridiculous we used him in the champ and are still relying on him. |
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Post by trevuptop on Aug 28, 2024 9:32:03 GMT 1
Playing Hogg with not a single Centre Half who looks comfortable on the ball is an issue. How do we expect to build up with the likes of Lees, Pearson, Heilik and Spencer all struggling at breaking the lines with their passes?
Quite clearly crying out for a new CB - Nigel Lonwijk was at the game last night?
The system insn't an issue as shown by Duff's time at Barnsley, but it does take a bit of getting used to as well as having the correct players - They also had a slow start that year
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 28, 2024 9:33:49 GMT 1
I think the system is fine but the players in it are the problem. The centre backs don't have any pace so that's why there are gaps at times, as well as that they aren't "footballers" so when they have possession they struggle. When teams are going to sit back and wait for us there's no point lumping it and we have to be patient and build, but because of the movement in front of them and their lack of ability on the ball they struggle. Hogg plays in a 10 yard square next to the centre backs (the "he's here, he's there" etc.. chant couldn't be more laughable) which leaves a big gap in midfield between him, Wiles and Evans. He doesn't show for the ball enough either which gives the centre backs no options and when they do find him they get it straight back. Evans and Wiles aren't defensively minded enough to drop back to help Hogg get moves started and only come to life in the final third. Wiles more so and as a side note his pass completion stats are actually way higher than I thought, 86% for a midfielder is pretty impressive. The first choice wing backs are for this level generally very good. Up front obviously we need another but with Koroma, Healey, Marshall, Radulovic, Ward, Harratt and Phillips to come back we also need to get rid of someone because that's 7 already. The first 4 I think are good options but 2 have regular niggles so definitely need another. Mobile CDM, pacey CB and striker are clearly what's needed but I can definitely see this team getting better as the season goes on. Do our centre backs really need pace? How many pacey centre backs play in the championship or L1? Genuine question as I'm not sure. I've always thought though you don't necessarily need pace if your positional play is good enough. I don't remember Bruce or Pallister being quick and they did ok? Is it just a case of the three at the back getting used to the new formation and learning not to get involved in a foot race with a pacey forward without having a yard or two head start? Same old reaction after conceding goals, blame the keeper or the defenders. Whilst they certainly looked poor it would help if the rest of the team did their bit, non existent midfield, zero hold up play from the forwards. It was interesting to see Harrat against L2 opposition, reminds me of his two poor loan stints. Ridiculous we used him in the champ and are still relying on him. Port Vale liked him, so not sure where you get "two poor loan stints" from but you're right, he ain't good enough. |
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Post by bogart on Aug 28, 2024 9:53:00 GMT 1
System played, personnel on the pitch does not matter one iota when you cannot kick a ball 10 yds to a teammate. Trip to specsavers to check on colour blindness would not go amiss!
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Post by rockwall on Aug 28, 2024 10:36:00 GMT 1
Personally don't think the system is the problem. Ots the players in it.
Miller and Sorenson play the wing back riles perfectly and we look dangerous everytime they get the ball.
It was clear that without Miller we were shocking as Headley doesn't seem to be able to do it.
Once Sorenson went off, the same happened - to be fair we did go to a back 4 I think.
I am a Hogg fan, but he doesn't have what we need to play this system, last night showed with his inability to turn and play a crisp long forward pass. Sure Kane will potentially be there when fit.
Last night showed that the back up players aren't up to it.
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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 28, 2024 10:37:19 GMT 1
We’ve lost one game
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Post by SN0W on Aug 28, 2024 10:52:38 GMT 1
So far, his second half subs seem to be our stumbling block. It certainly looks like a case of being dealt a crap hand and he's having to cope?
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