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Post by detox on Aug 28, 2024 7:58:26 GMT 1
Autumn is upon us ,and a severe change in temperature has hit the Town.
Tbh, we've seen it coming, the squalls in previous weeks set a few alarm bells ringing, albeit the sun shone on us a little and warmed our souls.
The cold blast from Walsall however has Town facing the reality that winter isn't far away.
We have just a few days to buy some warm clothing, else we're going to suffer chilly winds for some time..
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Aug 28, 2024 8:05:22 GMT 1
Autumn is upon us ,and a severe change in temperature has hit the Town. Tbh, we've seen it coming, the squalls in previous weeks set a few alarm bells ringing, albeit the sun shone on us a little and warmed our souls. The cold blast from Walsall however has Town facing the reality that winter isn't far away. We have just a few days to buy some warm clothing, else we're going to suffer chilly winds for some time.. Sadly Cartwright is shopping at Primark. And the boss won't put the heating on! |
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 28, 2024 8:14:05 GMT 1
Autumn is upon us ,and a severe change in temperature has hit the Town. Tbh, we've seen it coming, the squalls in previous weeks set a few alarm bells ringing, albeit the sun shone on us a little and warmed our souls. The cold blast from Walsall however has Town facing the reality that winter isn't far away. We have just a few days to buy some warm clothing, else we're going to suffer chilly winds for some time.. Thank you Michael fish.. It’s grim up north.. 🥶 |
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Post by Jack on Aug 28, 2024 13:44:11 GMT 1
The north wind Duff blow and we shall have snow this winter whilst the forecast says May will be glorious in Birmingham.
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Post by willo on Aug 28, 2024 13:52:45 GMT 1
In all honesty, I’ve lost a lot of interest since we were relegated. Doesn’t look like we’re giving it our best shot for an instant return to the Championship either and there’s still that malaise hanging over the club which goes back a few seasons.
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Post by crux on Aug 28, 2024 14:00:22 GMT 1
All the miserable buggers who have been as quiet as a mouse since the season started, have suddenly started posting again 🤔
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Post by dugnet on Aug 28, 2024 14:22:00 GMT 1
I really get the cynicism, I really do but, to stick with the theme, 3 weeks ago it looked like we were about step back into the sun. Last night was incredibly disappointing if only as the performances of the last few years had returned.
I have said consistently we need to really assess where we are in around another 5 weeks, and I will personally stick to that, but given there is still an ill wind blowing around the club what is really going to give people a real sense of change?
The obvious answer is performances on the pitch but we have played 4, won 3. The owner has spent heavily on a stadium he doesn't own, yet, and was also prepared to sanction a good fee for a player from one of our rivals. Is the concern the commitment to being better (across the club) or the delivery? Personally it is hard to question the commitment, I don't see any underhand reason for Mr Nagle being here, so the issue has to be the delivery. Mr Nagle has said that the aim is to, ultimately (with no time frame now mentioned after relegation), return to the Premier League. It is therefore that he will be judged on.
For me though I have had enough of the negative, and it is just me. I think I accept that the job to turn the Town tanker round maybe more significant than any of us actually realises. Last night was possibly evidence of this. As such I think I am realistic enough to accept more time will be required. That said if Mr Nagle and his chosen deputies don't make significant progress this season the entire Nagle project will be under pressure. My main hope is Michael Duff and his ambition. If he isn't successful, or walks (which I am not at all suggesting will happen), then the cynicism I refer to will be entirely well placed.
Of course another few good results and last night might be a mere blip. I am not sure what DATM was like the day after that night in Shrewsbury in 2016 but I bet there were a few who weren't convinced.
I'll sit back and see what the next month or so bring us on the pitch. Off the pitch I hope for the continuation of positive messages and actions.
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Post by htafcdreams on Aug 28, 2024 14:46:51 GMT 1
Think what we have seen from our relegation from the premier league and then recent relegation from the championship.
The players unfortunately become damaged and when the pressure is on they default to their negative ways which is inbuilt from 5-6 months of losing.
These bad habits become default.
It’s expensive but ultimately 75% of the starting 11 needs to be replaced to under take the “hard reset” which is talked about in Duff, Morris etc interviews.
Assume we look to do that over a number of seasons but the goal of reset and bouncing back becomes more challenging
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Aug 28, 2024 14:48:20 GMT 1
The sun's been out for a few weeks now but last night's shower has triggered a deluge of global warming protests. The world's gonna end.
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Post by royrace on Aug 28, 2024 14:50:27 GMT 1
In all honesty, I’ve lost a lot of interest since we were relegated. Doesn’t look like we’re giving it our best shot for an instant return to the Championship either and there’s still that malaise hanging over the club which goes back a few seasons. Unfortunately it won't take much for the feel good factor to vanish. Being soundly beaten by Walsall was a sobering experience and one which confirmed something we'd probably all feared. Namely that we've had an easy start bar Peterborough and the squad building required for promotion is only half complete with two days left. Transfer net spend of minus 4 million and key areas not strengthened yet again. Also injuries to key players already! Just bad luck?? Seems unlikely but even if it is it just highlights the lack of depth in key areas. Really impressed with Duff so far but the last few performances have been concerning. The good teams in this league would beat us on that showing. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 28, 2024 14:58:26 GMT 1
In all honesty, I’ve lost a lot of interest since we were relegated. Doesn’t look like we’re giving it our best shot for an instant return to the Championship either and there’s still that malaise hanging over the club which goes back a few seasons. I'm surprised you even know our results, weren't you sacking it off now we're in League One?  |
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 28, 2024 15:48:20 GMT 1
I really get the cynicism, I really do but, to stick with the theme, 3 weeks ago it looked like we were about step back into the sun. Last night was incredibly disappointing if only as the performances of the last few years had returned. I have said consistently we need to really assess where we are in around another 5 weeks, and I will personally stick to that, but given there is still an ill wind blowing around the club what is really going to give people a real sense of change? The obvious answer is performances on the pitch but we have played 4, won 3. I'm with you - it feels like we're on the right track, BUT, performances have not really been at the level needed if we're going to get promoted, we've played perhaps 4 good halves in 5 games, we can't continue to get away with that like we have done aside from last night. I suspect the next couple of games, and then the two or three after the break will tell us more than the 5 so far...there must be players who up until now have been playing the last few weeks with real uncertainty about which game they'll be at on Saturday, that's bound to affect standards. That uncertainty will be gone when we face Rotherham. |
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Post by tottz on Aug 28, 2024 15:57:47 GMT 1
That had a hint of Cormac McCarthy to it!
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Post by goodbet on Aug 28, 2024 16:15:58 GMT 1
I really get the cynicism, I really do but, to stick with the theme, 3 weeks ago it looked like we were about step back into the sun. Last night was incredibly disappointing if only as the performances of the last few years had returned. Some other performances were well short in spite of the results. I have said consistently we need to really assess where we are in around another 5 weeks, and I will personally stick to that, but given there is still an ill wind blowing around the club what is really going to give people a real sense of change? The obvious answer is performances on the pitch but we have played 4, won 3 But the performances were not that good. The owner has spent heavily on a stadium he doesn't own, yet, and was also prepared to sanction a good fee for a player from one of our rivals. Is the concern the commitment to being better (across the club) or the delivery? Personally it is hard to question the commitment, I don't see any underhand reason for Mr Nagle being here, so the issue has to be the delivery. Mr Nagle has said that the aim is to, ultimately (with no time frame now mentioned after relegation), return to the Premier League. It is therefore that he will be judged on. I haven't seen any suggestions of underhand reasons of why he is here, I would guess at understanding what his team is telling him and comparing this against what he has been told by others? For me though I have had enough of the negative, and it is just me. I think I accept that the job to turn the Town tanker round maybe more significant than any of us actually realises certainly by most Town fans that always look on the bright side. Last night was possibly evidence of this. As such I think I am realistic enough to accept more time will be required. That said if Mr Nagle and his chosen deputies don't make significant progress this season the entire Nagle project will be under pressure. My main hope is Michael Duff and his ambition. If he isn't successful, or walks (which I am not at all suggesting will happen), then the cynicism I refer to will be entirely well placed. Of course another few good results and last night might be a mere blip. I am not sure what DATM was like the day after that night in Shrewsbury in 2016 but I bet there were a few who weren't convinced. I'll sit back and see what the next month or so bring us on the pitch. Off the pitch I hope for the continuation of positive messages and actions. I don't have any issues with your points, but I made a few comments. |
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Post by willo on Aug 28, 2024 16:20:00 GMT 1
In all honesty, I’ve lost a lot of interest since we were relegated. Doesn’t look like we’re giving it our best shot for an instant return to the Championship either and there’s still that malaise hanging over the club which goes back a few seasons. I'm surprised you even know our results, weren't you sacking it off now we're in League One? I have mate and in all honesty, I’m not missing much at present. Watched bits of all the games via a stream and Peterborough away aside, I haven’t seen much difference to last season. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 28, 2024 16:21:16 GMT 1
I'm surprised you even know our results, weren't you sacking it off now we're in League One? I have mate and in all honesty, I’m not missing much at present. Watched bits of all the games via a stream and Peterborough away aside, I haven’t seen much difference to last season. Sooooo glad you took that the right way mate, there's plenty on here and FB/Twatter/whatever that would have got in a right hissy fit  |
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Post by willo on Aug 28, 2024 16:22:24 GMT 1
All the miserable buggers who have been as quiet as a mouse since the season started, have suddenly started posting again 🤔 I’ve been in the doldrums since Warnock was shown the door and let’s be honest, it’s being pretty much all downhill since then. Carried on posting but there’s not much to be too positive about. Paint job at the stadium has been great and I don’t think for one second we’ll slide again but that aside? |
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Post by willo on Aug 28, 2024 16:24:32 GMT 1
I have mate and in all honesty, I’m not missing much at present. Watched bits of all the games via a stream and Peterborough away aside, I haven’t seen much difference to last season. Sooooo glad you took that the right way mate, there's plenty on here and FB/Twatter/whatever that would have got in a right hissy fit Which is why I don’t do any of those. You come across as a sound lad, we’d probably have plenty in common, no problem with you or pretty much any other poster on here. |
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Post by willo on Aug 28, 2024 16:25:13 GMT 1
Sooooo glad you took that the right way mate, there's plenty on here and FB/Twatter/whatever that would have got in a right hissy fit Which is why I don’t do any of those. You come across as a sound lad, we’d probably have plenty in common, no problem with you or pretty much any other poster on here. And I’m only saying it as I see it. |
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Post by sabailand on Aug 28, 2024 16:35:07 GMT 1
We lost a carabou cup tie playing half the game with ten men, against a team who have had a decent start in their own division, far from great last but jesus fkn christ.
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Aug 28, 2024 16:48:03 GMT 1
We lost a carabou cup tie playing half the game with ten men, against a team who have had a decent start in their own division, far from great last but jesus fkn christ. It's a shame we didn't make the next round with the big clubs entering now, but that aside I don't think it's so much the result but the performance, which follows on from our previous two games where we scraped victories by 1 goal against on paper two of the worst teams in the league. We are definitely short in some areas if we're gonna stay on course for automatic promotion. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Aug 28, 2024 18:26:06 GMT 1
We lost a carabou cup tie playing half the game with ten men, against a team who have had a decent start in their own division, far from great last but jesus fkn christ. Its not the fact we got beat its the manner in which we imploded, being down to ten men doesn't mean several players who constantly give the ball away because we have a man short or passes going completely astray. It was a tough draw to start with but even at ten men 2-0 we should have won. |
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Post by bluebeard on Aug 28, 2024 18:43:27 GMT 1
There is a cold wind blowing in the Trossachs that is steadily heading towards West Yorkshire!, time to get the Long Johns out this could be a very frosty winter.
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Post by thorntoncterrier on Aug 28, 2024 18:44:12 GMT 1
Autumn is upon us ,and a severe change in temperature has hit the Town. Tbh, we've seen it coming, the squalls in previous weeks set a few alarm bells ringing, albeit the sun shone on us a little and warmed our souls. The cold blast from Walsall however has Town facing the reality that winter isn't far away. We have just a few days to buy some warm clothing, else we're going to suffer chilly winds for some time.. Nonsence |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 28, 2024 19:06:43 GMT 1
2 loans in today, how's the wind? Awful down here just had beans for tea though
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Post by thorntoncterrier on Aug 28, 2024 19:09:00 GMT 1
2 loans in today, how's the wind? Awful down here just had beans for tea though We are going in the right direction whatever the miserable bastards say. Patience. |
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Post by detox on Aug 28, 2024 19:09:28 GMT 1
Autumn is upon us ,and a severe change in temperature has hit the Town. Tbh, we've seen it coming, the squalls in previous weeks set a few alarm bells ringing, albeit the sun shone on us a little and warmed our souls. The cold blast from Walsall however has Town facing the reality that winter isn't far away. We have just a few days to buy some warm clothing, else we're going to suffer chilly winds for some time.. Nonsence 17 posts of bile.... why bother ?? |
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Post by detox on Aug 28, 2024 19:10:12 GMT 1
2 loans in today, how's the wind? Awful down here just had beans for tea though We are going in the right direction whatever the miserable bastards say. Patience. temperature is warming up a bit... |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 28, 2024 19:13:31 GMT 1
17 posts of bile.... why bother ?? At least spell it properly... |
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Post by duncfost01 on Aug 28, 2024 19:30:21 GMT 1
In all honesty, I’ve lost a lot of interest since we were relegated. Doesn’t look like we’re giving it our best shot for an instant return to the Championship either and there’s still that malaise hanging over the club which goes back a few seasons. Joint top. Signed 2 players today - this post has aged well….. |
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