trotsky
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Post by trotsky on Oct 26, 2024 0:53:16 GMT 1
I used to ref and TJ rugby league. There is def somewhat a myth about the whole "sir" thing. Abuse was horrific most weeks, I jacked it in eventually after a combination of knackering my knee and the police getting involved in a game. I'd do 4 games a weekend for a fiver a time (which I never accepted). You'd usually know within 5 minutes whether the teams were there to play or fight, oddly if they were there to fight you'd get much less hassle.
I remember a game of RL (maybe 1990's or perhaps earlier) at Shaw Cross in Dewsbury which turned into a very frightening experience for the home supporters.
The away team was from Hull and the game ended with both the Dewsbury team and their supporters being chased by the away following over the field, main road and even through local residents gardens. With those who were caught taking a beating.
Men, women and kids all fleeing for their safety, some having to plead with the house owners for refuge. Didn't witness it myself but it was in our local rag. Wouldn't swear to it but it might have even been reported on Calender/Look North.
IIRC, back in the 70's/80's the amateur sides from Hull all seemed to have a reputation for violence, especially the NDLB - National Dock Labour Board?
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Post by monkbar on Oct 26, 2024 2:45:53 GMT 1
I used to ref and TJ rugby league. There is def somewhat a myth about the whole "sir" thing. Abuse was horrific most weeks, I jacked it in eventually after a combination of knackering my knee and the police getting involved in a game. I'd do 4 games a weekend for a fiver a time (which I never accepted). You'd usually know within 5 minutes whether the teams were there to play or fight, oddly if they were there to fight you'd get much less hassle. I remember a game of RL (maybe 1990's or perhaps earlier) at Shaw Cross in Dewsbury which turned into a very frightening experience for the home supporters. The away team was from Hull and the game ended with both the Dewsbury team and their supporters being chased by the away following over the field, main road and even through local residents gardens. With those who were caught taking a beating.
Men, women and kids all fleeing for their safety, some having to plead with the house owners for refuge. Didn't witness it myself but it was in our local rag. Wouldn't swear to it but it might have even been reported on Calender/Look North.
IIRC, back in the 70's/80's the amateur sides from Hull all seemed to have a reputation for violence, especially the NDLB - National Dock Labour Board?
The first time I ever saw actual violence as a kid was when Dewsbury Rams played Hull in the cup in 1984. Will never forget looking over the wall to see a guy on the floor getting his head kicked like a football. Hull and Leigh the only ones I've seen consistent trouble at. |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 26, 2024 7:22:11 GMT 1
Came out of Junior football a few years ago. Abuse towards referees was getting beyond a joke.
Alternatively, you travel to some clubs and know that clear bias will be taking place. Had many age groups and some clubs regardless of a specific age group are just clear cheats when it comes to refereeing and as soon as you question anything they get all aggressive too!
Articles like the young boy sadden me and the state of the game even at grassroots. But something also needs to happen to those refs who cheat.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Nov 4, 2024 16:53:36 GMT 1
Came out of Junior football a few years ago. Abuse towards referees was getting beyond a joke. Alternatively, you travel to some clubs and know that clear bias will be taking place. Had many age groups and some clubs regardless of a specific age group are just clear cheats when it comes to refereeing and as soon as you question anything they get all aggressive too! Articles like the young boy sadden me and the state of the game even at grassroots. But something also needs to happen to those refs who cheat. Had a game the other week where we arrived as the proceeding match was taking place. Ref, about 20yo, stayed on to ref ours. He knew their lads by name, which is fine, but sometimes worrying. His bias was unbelievable. He gave two handball decisions that were feet from me and no contact with hands was made. At one point our #10 was on a run and instead of stepping out of his way or standing still, he stepped into his path, bodied him. At this point, clearly, the game should be stopped and we should have had an uncontested drop ball. Nothing. They then have a goal allowed after our defender, trying to clear it off the line, was pulled down. I politely asked him "ref, can I just ask did you see no infringement on our player?" "nope" was all I got. We lost the game 7-5, and played against 12 men. I asked one of their subs "is he a regular ref for you?" and they laughed and said "yep." I said "I can see why". After the game he's chatting with them all like they're old pals. All that is open to us is to submit our assessment at the end of the game. |
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Post by mosher on Nov 4, 2024 17:02:49 GMT 1
I used to ref and TJ rugby league. There is def somewhat a myth about the whole "sir" thing. Abuse was horrific most weeks, I jacked it in eventually after a combination of knackering my knee and the police getting involved in a game. I'd do 4 games a weekend for a fiver a time (which I never accepted). You'd usually know within 5 minutes whether the teams were there to play or fight, oddly if they were there to fight you'd get much less hassle.
I remember a game of RL (maybe 1990's or perhaps earlier) at Shaw Cross in Dewsbury which turned into a very frightening experience for the home supporters.
The away team was from Hull and the game ended with both the Dewsbury team and their supporters being chased by the away following over the field, main road and even through local residents gardens. With those who were caught taking a beating.
Men, women and kids all fleeing for their safety, some having to plead with the house owners for refuge. Didn't witness it myself but it was in our local rag. Wouldn't swear to it but it might have even been reported on Calender/Look North.
IIRC, back in the 70's/80's the amateur sides from Hull all seemed to have a reputation for violence, especially the NDLB - National Dock Labour Board?
Hull are known for their rugby fans being akin to football fans regarding hooliganism. Only time I remember seeing trouble at Batley was against Hull. |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Nov 4, 2024 17:17:57 GMT 1
Came out of Junior football a few years ago. Abuse towards referees was getting beyond a joke. Alternatively, you travel to some clubs and know that clear bias will be taking place. Had many age groups and some clubs regardless of a specific age group are just clear cheats when it comes to refereeing and as soon as you question anything they get all aggressive too! Articles like the young boy sadden me and the state of the game even at grassroots. But something also needs to happen to those refs who cheat. Had a game the other week where we arrived as the proceeding match was taking place. Ref, about 20yo, stayed on to ref ours. He knew their lads by name, which is fine, but sometimes worrying. His bias was unbelievable. He gave two handball decisions that were feet from me and no contact with hands was made. At one point our #10 was on a run and instead of stepping out of his way or standing still, he stepped into his path, bodied him. At this point, clearly, the game should be stopped and we should have had an uncontested drop ball. Nothing. They then have a goal allowed after our defender, trying to clear it off the line, was pulled down. I politely asked him "ref, can I just ask did you see no infringement on our player?" "nope" was all I got. We lost the game 7-5, and played against 12 men. I asked one of their subs "is he a regular ref for you?" and they laughed and said "yep." I said "I can see why". After the game he's chatting with them all like they're old pals. All that is open to us is to submit our assessment at the end of the game. Did you report it or give him a low score? I think on Match Day App if you give an overall score of less that 60 then you have to justify it with a proper report which is why many managers don't bother and poor performances go recorded. Its all opinion as well. You will say he was a poor ref, he will suggest he wasn't. Nothing will happen in regard to the result from the match and unless he is a Ref that is registered with the league then very little will be done about it and it turns out not being worth the hassle of completing the paperwork for the report. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Nov 4, 2024 17:26:52 GMT 1
Had a game the other week where we arrived as the proceeding match was taking place. Ref, about 20yo, stayed on to ref ours. He knew their lads by name, which is fine, but sometimes worrying. His bias was unbelievable. He gave two handball decisions that were feet from me and no contact with hands was made. At one point our #10 was on a run and instead of stepping out of his way or standing still, he stepped into his path, bodied him. At this point, clearly, the game should be stopped and we should have had an uncontested drop ball. Nothing. They then have a goal allowed after our defender, trying to clear it off the line, was pulled down. I politely asked him "ref, can I just ask did you see no infringement on our player?" "nope" was all I got. We lost the game 7-5, and played against 12 men. I asked one of their subs "is he a regular ref for you?" and they laughed and said "yep." I said "I can see why". After the game he's chatting with them all like they're old pals. All that is open to us is to submit our assessment at the end of the game. Did you report it or give him a low score? I think on Match Day App if you give an overall score of less that 60 then you have to justify it with a proper report which is why many managers don't bother and poor performances go recorded. Its all opinion as well. You will say he was a poor ref, he will suggest he wasn't. Nothing will happen in regard to the result from the match and unless he is a Ref that is registered with the league then very little will be done about it and it turns out not being worth the hassle of completing the paperwork for the report. we did and we submitted our anecdotal evidence but like you say, it's subjective. It only bothers me because the young lads who play then get a "why do we bother?" attitude and we have to coach that out of them, or try to use it to fire them up. All well and good, but we'd rather focus on technical stuff in the limited time we have them |
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Post by eastcoastterrier on Nov 4, 2024 17:27:59 GMT 1
Came out of Junior football a few years ago. Abuse towards referees was getting beyond a joke. Alternatively, you travel to some clubs and know that clear bias will be taking place. Had many age groups and some clubs regardless of a specific age group are just clear cheats when it comes to refereeing and as soon as you question anything they get all aggressive too! Articles like the young boy sadden me and the state of the game even at grassroots. But something also needs to happen to those refs who cheat. Had a game the other week where we arrived as the proceeding match was taking place. Ref, about 20yo, stayed on to ref ours. He knew their lads by name, which is fine, but sometimes worrying. His bias was unbelievable. He gave two handball decisions that were feet from me and no contact with hands was made. At one point our #10 was on a run and instead of stepping out of his way or standing still, he stepped into his path, bodied him. At this point, clearly, the game should be stopped and we should have had an uncontested drop ball. Nothing. They then have a goal allowed after our defender, trying to clear it off the line, was pulled down. I politely asked him "ref, can I just ask did you see no infringement on our player?" "nope" was all I got. We lost the game 7-5, and played against 12 men. I asked one of their subs "is he a regular ref for you?" and they laughed and said "yep." I said "I can see why". After the game he's chatting with them all like they're old pals. All that is open to us is to submit our assessment at the end of the game. [br Many, many years ago playing for Honley in the District league we had the most blatant example of ref cheating I’ve ever seen. We needed to win the game to get promotion and knew that a draw would not be enough. We won a hard-fought game 4-3 even playing against 12 men and celebrated as you would afterwards. We thought no more about it until we saw the result in the Examiner - 3-3!! What!? The bastard had recorded the result as 3-3 even though we knew we had scored 4! We found out months later that he was some relative of the manager of the team that got promoted instead of us. Complaints to the league committee fell on deaf ears and we stayed down that year. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Nov 4, 2024 17:30:08 GMT 1
Had a game the other week where we arrived as the proceeding match was taking place. Ref, about 20yo, stayed on to ref ours. He knew their lads by name, which is fine, but sometimes worrying. His bias was unbelievable. He gave two handball decisions that were feet from me and no contact with hands was made. At one point our #10 was on a run and instead of stepping out of his way or standing still, he stepped into his path, bodied him. At this point, clearly, the game should be stopped and we should have had an uncontested drop ball. Nothing. They then have a goal allowed after our defender, trying to clear it off the line, was pulled down. I politely asked him "ref, can I just ask did you see no infringement on our player?" "nope" was all I got. We lost the game 7-5, and played against 12 men. I asked one of their subs "is he a regular ref for you?" and they laughed and said "yep." I said "I can see why". After the game he's chatting with them all like they're old pals. All that is open to us is to submit our assessment at the end of the game. [br Many, many years ago playing for Honley in the District league we had the most blatant example of ref cheating I’ve ever seen. We needed to win the game to get promotion and knew that a draw would not be enough. We won a hard-fought game 4-3 even playing against 12 men and celebrated as you would afterwards. We thought no more about it until we saw the result in the Examiner - 3-3!! What!? The bastard had recorded the result as 3-3 even though we knew we had scored 4! We found out months later that he was some relative of the manager of the team that got promoted instead of us. Complaints to the league committee fell on deaf ears and we stayed down that year. That's fucking outrageous. |
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Post by theravymoomin on Nov 4, 2024 17:53:59 GMT 1
We have had it in our favour before but it’s not something that’s pleasing
Lad we used to work with, actually referees at a really good standard
We turned up to play against mount pleasant( all Muslim team)
We were losing 5-1 at half time, one of there players was sent off for a 2 footed lunge, ( red card for sure)
The game goes to 5-3
They start getting in his back calling him a racist, but actually calling him racist names at the same time
He sends another off, he sends the manager off, he’s sends there keeper off, 5-4
Now there really into him
He sends another off
There’s about 2 mins to go
We score again
5-5
He plays 16 mins stoppage time
We score
He blows full time
I’ve never seen something as blatant in my life
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Post by goodbet on Nov 4, 2024 18:05:22 GMT 1
Did you report it or give him a low score? I think on Match Day App if you give an overall score of less that 60 then you have to justify it with a proper report which is why many managers don't bother and poor performances go recorded. Its all opinion as well. You will say he was a poor ref, he will suggest he wasn't. Nothing will happen in regard to the result from the match and unless he is a Ref that is registered with the league then very little will be done about it and it turns out not being worth the hassle of completing the paperwork for the report. we did and we submitted our anecdotal evidence but like you say, it's subjective. It only bothers me because the young lads who play then get a "why do we bother?" attitude and we have to coach that out of them, or try to use it to fire them up. All well and good, but we'd rather focus on technical stuff in the limited time we have them If the ever get to be professional footballers it will have got them used to VAR (unless they play for a top six club that is). |
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 4, 2024 18:11:56 GMT 1
You can always tell the junior teams that have a cheating or overly bias ref, who is generally one of the coaches or another parent of the player.
They always seem to just get enough points each season not to get relegated from the division they are in. When you take a closer look at the table on Full Time you see that most of the points were won at home matches and very few points won away. There's one at U15's who's luck is running out, as after 3 years, everyone now knows he cheats so he's had to get a proper ref and the team are bottom of their league this season.
The worst part of it is, by cheating, your keeping your team in a false division just to boost your own ego. However, most of the kids in the team are not good enough to play at that level, so don't develop. Plus they eventually get to a point where they know they are only winning because their ref is cheating. So they end up both not developing and not enjoying playing and ultimately their lasting experience of junior football is one of their ref cheating and then the team failing.....All so that an adult can massage his ego and say "I coach a team in Division 1" or whatever reason they are doing it for.
Saying that, there are some really good people who volunteer their time to ref games.
My son's team played White Rose at the weekend. It was a really good game, lot's of quality from both teams. White Rose won 2-1. The lad who refereed it was just a local lad volunteering his time, I don't think he had a son in their team. Pretty much no home bias and overall he refereed it really well. That in itself helped the game to be really, really competitive, without any issues.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 4, 2024 18:23:47 GMT 1
Came out of Junior football a few years ago. Abuse towards referees was getting beyond a joke. Alternatively, you travel to some clubs and know that clear bias will be taking place. Had many age groups and some clubs regardless of a specific age group are just clear cheats when it comes to refereeing and as soon as you question anything they get all aggressive too! Articles like the young boy sadden me and the state of the game even at grassroots. But something also needs to happen to those refs who cheat. Had a game the other week where we arrived as the proceeding match was taking place. Ref, about 20yo, stayed on to ref ours. He knew their lads by name, which is fine, but sometimes worrying. His bias was unbelievable. He gave two handball decisions that were feet from me and no contact with hands was made. At one point our #10 was on a run and instead of stepping out of his way or standing still, he stepped into his path, bodied him. At this point, clearly, the game should be stopped and we should have had an uncontested drop ball. Nothing. They then have a goal allowed after our defender, trying to clear it off the line, was pulled down. I politely asked him "ref, can I just ask did you see no infringement on our player?" "nope" was all I got. We lost the game 7-5, and played against 12 men. I asked one of their subs "is he a regular ref for you?" and they laughed and said "yep." I said "I can see why". After the game he's chatting with them all like they're old pals. All that is open to us is to submit our assessment at the end of the game. Really used to get on my nerves that kind of situation. Children, parents, coaches putting effort in to travel to wherever to be cheated. Even putting paperwork in to the FA ended up being a waste of time because let's be honest, even of you only questioned in a polite manner some of the biased decision, the ref would say you shouting at them and abusing them. The FA are blaming a miniscule minority of idiots for the lack of officials at grassroots. Personally, they need to go see some of these in action to see that the refereeing at times is the issue! I genuinely feel sorry for those who get abuse hurled at them for someone disagreeing with their decision. But anyone who knows the game can tell when the ref is being biased, genuinely shit or just made 1 or 2 mistakes. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 4, 2024 18:30:52 GMT 1
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 4, 2024 18:35:35 GMT 1
Had a game the other week where we arrived as the proceeding match was taking place. Ref, about 20yo, stayed on to ref ours. He knew their lads by name, which is fine, but sometimes worrying. His bias was unbelievable. He gave two handball decisions that were feet from me and no contact with hands was made. At one point our #10 was on a run and instead of stepping out of his way or standing still, he stepped into his path, bodied him. At this point, clearly, the game should be stopped and we should have had an uncontested drop ball. Nothing. They then have a goal allowed after our defender, trying to clear it off the line, was pulled down. I politely asked him "ref, can I just ask did you see no infringement on our player?" "nope" was all I got. We lost the game 7-5, and played against 12 men. I asked one of their subs "is he a regular ref for you?" and they laughed and said "yep." I said "I can see why". After the game he's chatting with them all like they're old pals. All that is open to us is to submit our assessment at the end of the game. Really used to get on my nerves that kind of situation. Children, parents, coaches putting effort in to travel to wherever to be cheated. Even putting paperwork in to the FA ended up being a waste of time because let's be honest, even of you only questioned in a polite manner some of the biased decision, the ref would say you shouting at them and abusing them. The FA are blaming a miniscule minority of idiots for the lack of officials at grassroots. Personally, they need to go see some of these in action to see that the refereeing at times is the issue! I genuinely feel sorry for those who get abuse hurled at them for someone disagreeing with their decision. But anyone who knows the game can tell when the ref is being biased, genuinely shit or just made 1 or 2 mistakes. If you ever challenge a ref about his decisions, he'll do one of 2 things. He'll either explain his decisions in a controlled manner and explain why he took the decisions. OR. He'll address you in a very defensive manner, tell you about respect and say he could report you to the FA and get you banned from watching your kid.........Guess which one is the one who's knows he's been overly biased or cheated.. It actually ruins Junior grassroots football for everyone. The home team kids end up not enjoying it, the home team parents end up not enjoying it and the away kids, parents and coaches end up upset and frustrated.....But 1 person loves it as his team's won and he can tell all his mates all about it again and how he coaches a Division 1 or whatever team..... |
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Post by Macduff on Nov 4, 2024 19:46:18 GMT 1
Good to have Graeme back.
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Post by deucebigalow77 on Nov 4, 2024 20:58:15 GMT 1
You can always tell the junior teams that have a cheating or overly bias ref, who is generally one of the coaches or another parent of the player. They always seem to just get enough points each season not to get relegated from the division they are in. When you take a closer look at the table on Full Time you see that most of the points were won at home matches and very few points won away. There's one at U15's who's luck is running out, as after 3 years, everyone now knows he cheats so he's had to get a proper ref and the team are bottom of their league this season. The worst part of it is, by cheating, your keeping your team in a false division just to boost your own ego. However, most of the kids in the team are not good enough to play at that level, so don't develop. Plus they eventually get to a point where they know they are only winning because their ref is cheating. So they end up both not developing and not enjoying playing and ultimately their lasting experience of junior football is one of their ref cheating and then the team failing.....All so that an adult can massage his ego and say "I coach a team in Division 1" or whatever reason they are doing it for. Saying that, there are some really good people who volunteer their time to ref games. My son's team played White Rose at the weekend. It was a really good game, lot's of quality from both teams. White Rose won 2-1. The lad who refereed it was just a local lad volunteering his time, I don't think he had a son in their team. Pretty much no home bias and overall he refereed it really well. That in itself helped the game to be really, really competitive, without any issues. White Rose are the MK Don's of the junior league |
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Post by ldr on Nov 4, 2024 22:54:29 GMT 1
You can always tell the junior teams that have a cheating or overly bias ref, who is generally one of the coaches or another parent of the player. They always seem to just get enough points each season not to get relegated from the division they are in. When you take a closer look at the table on Full Time you see that most of the points were won at home matches and very few points won away. There's one at U15's who's luck is running out, as after 3 years, everyone now knows he cheats so he's had to get a proper ref and the team are bottom of their league this season. The worst part of it is, by cheating, your keeping your team in a false division just to boost your own ego. However, most of the kids in the team are not good enough to play at that level, so don't develop. Plus they eventually get to a point where they know they are only winning because their ref is cheating. So they end up both not developing and not enjoying playing and ultimately their lasting experience of junior football is one of their ref cheating and then the team failing.....All so that an adult can massage his ego and say "I coach a team in Division 1" or whatever reason they are doing it for. Saying that, there are some really good people who volunteer their time to ref games. My son's team played White Rose at the weekend. It was a really good game, lot's of quality from both teams. White Rose won 2-1. The lad who refereed it was just a local lad volunteering his time, I don't think he had a son in their team. Pretty much no home bias and overall he refereed it really well. That in itself helped the game to be really, really competitive, without any issues. White Rose are the MK Don's of the junior league They were fucking hated by everyone when my lads were playing a few years back. The parents were always weapons of the highest order. |
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Post by ldr on Nov 4, 2024 22:59:25 GMT 1
A few years back, we were up at Ossett. I can’t remember if it was Town or Albion. It was towards the end of the season but the game was a Division 1 title decider in all but name. We were leading 3:2 going into injury time. We needed the win. Our coach asks how long left and the ref said 2 minutes. He played for 12 minutes or in other words the exact amount of time until they scored. Everyone knew it was cheating but you just have to take it on the chin and rise above it.
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Post by ldr on Nov 4, 2024 23:05:46 GMT 1
It’s funny how you have certain perceptions of teams from junior football. White Rose have been covered but Westend were always wankers and I say that even though one of my lads played for them for a while! Rastrick, Brighouse, YM we’re always decent. Overthorpe was always a scrap. Battyeford always welcoming.
Danny Cadamarteri had a team going back in the day. His son was in the team. Danny was a great craic but the team was full of little shits who thought they had made it.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 5, 2024 0:18:16 GMT 1
It’s funny how you have certain perceptions of teams from junior football. White Rose have been covered but Westend were always wankers and I say that even though one of my lads played for them for a while! Rastrick, Brighouse, YM we’re always decent. Overthorpe was always a scrap. Battyeford always welcoming. Danny Cadamarteri had a team going back in the day. His son was in the team. Danny was a great craic but the team was full of little shits who thought they had made it. Westend for me were always one of the better clubs. Can't remember what age, but only ever heard bad things about 1 team out of the amount they had. Gomersal, brighouse, YMCA and Linthwaite were the ones who myself & others knew the ref would beat us before even arriving. Linthwaite have improved in the past few years so iv heard and is now a really good set up too. |
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 5, 2024 0:18:35 GMT 1
U13’s Division 6 league title play off a couple of season ago after top 2 finished on equal points and records against each other
Lepton B Team v White Rose C
Guess which team brought 5 A team players, including lads who’d been in and out of Academies…….And then they lost on Penalties 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by rockwall on Nov 5, 2024 0:21:48 GMT 1
U13’s Division 6 league title play off a couple of season ago after top 2 finished on equal points and records against each other Lepton B Team v White Rose C Guess which team brought 5 A team players, including lads who’d been in and out of Academies…….And then they lost on Penalties 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I once played 5 B teamers in my A team due to a school trip and beat Ossett who were top. Guess what.... Ossett then complained to the FA that we played players unavailable for that specific team. I had the evidence that Ossett wanted to play the game after I explained the situation. The league then deducted my team points. I get the rules about A teasers dropping to B and C etc. But the other way round? Common sense is that some children have had a chance to play in a higher challenged game. |
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 5, 2024 0:42:18 GMT 1
U13’s Division 6 league title play off a couple of season ago after top 2 finished on equal points and records against each other Lepton B Team v White Rose C Guess which team brought 5 A team players, including lads who’d been in and out of Academies…….And then they lost on Penalties 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I once played 5 B teamers in my A team due to a school trip and beat Ossett who were top. Guess what.... Ossett then complained to the FA that we played players unavailable for that specific team. I had the evidence that Ossett wanted to play the game after I explained the situation. The league then deducted my team points. I get the rules about A teasers dropping to B and C etc. But the other way round? Common sense is that some children have had a chance to play in a higher challenged game. First thing i’d say is a massive well done to you for putting 5 B team players into your A team against top of the league. Most coaches would have tried everything to get it postponed until their A teamers were back. Bet that wasn’t an easy conversation the week after when all your A team players were available and their parents wanted them back in the team…..But the B team parents wanted their kids to stay in the A team. How the hell did Ossett have the nerve to complain after being beaten by a team half full of B team players….The joys of junior grassroots |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Nov 5, 2024 11:34:31 GMT 1
I remember a game of RL (maybe 1990's or perhaps earlier) at Shaw Cross in Dewsbury which turned into a very frightening experience for the home supporters.
The away team was from Hull and the game ended with both the Dewsbury team and their supporters being chased by the away following over the field, main road and even through local residents gardens. With those who were caught taking a beating.
Men, women and kids all fleeing for their safety, some having to plead with the house owners for refuge. Didn't witness it myself but it was in our local rag. Wouldn't swear to it but it might have even been reported on Calender/Look North.
IIRC, back in the 70's/80's the amateur sides from Hull all seemed to have a reputation for violence, especially the NDLB - National Dock Labour Board?
Hull are known for their rugby fans being akin to football fans regarding hooliganism. Only time I remember seeing trouble at Batley was against Hull. Surprising because Hull is such a lovely place. I remember going to a university open day in Hull, when I got to Hull I took the bus to the university. I was sat there thinking this is a s**t hole but surely any minute now we will pass through an area that doesn't look like Kabul on a bad day, never happened. As for the university when I got there I had to go through a overgrown field to get to the right department. |
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Post by mosher on Nov 5, 2024 11:44:47 GMT 1
Hull are known for their rugby fans being akin to football fans regarding hooliganism. Only time I remember seeing trouble at Batley was against Hull. Surprising because Hull is such a lovely place. I remember going to a university open day in Hull, when I got to Hull I took the bus to the university. I was sat there thinking this is a s**t hole but surely any minute now we will pass through an area that doesn't look like Kabul on a bad day, never happened. As for the university when I got there I had to go through a overgrown field to get to the right department. Yeah, my sis went to nursing college in Hull in the 90s, chose to live in Hessle rather than in Hull itself  |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Nov 5, 2024 12:09:12 GMT 1
Surprising because Hull is such a lovely place. I remember going to a university open day in Hull, when I got to Hull I took the bus to the university. I was sat there thinking this is a s**t hole but surely any minute now we will pass through an area that doesn't look like Kabul on a bad day, never happened. As for the university when I got there I had to go through a overgrown field to get to the right department. Yeah, my sis went to nursing college in Hull in the 90s, chose to live in Hessle rather than in Hull itself I went to the school of nursing open day at Hull, I chose Nottingham University. The funny thing is there are aesthetically nice places as bad if not worse than Hull, my friend lived in a beautiful village and used to say at the weekend it was hell. |
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Post by deucebigalow77 on Nov 5, 2024 12:15:57 GMT 1
Sikh Temple FC often influenced the ref's decisions
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Nov 5, 2024 12:43:44 GMT 1
Good to have Graeme back. Thanks pal. we'll see how long it lasts. The current regime seem a little Trumpian when it comes to anyone even referencing their decision making, so I expect even a comment like this one I am typing now to cause me an issue. #DownWithProject2025 |
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Post by terrier67 on Nov 5, 2024 13:26:20 GMT 1
Sikh Temple FC often influenced the ref's decisions Sikh Temple was always an interesting away game, put it that way. Interesting as in, is my car safe, someone else can take the corners, and why o why did I have to score that open goal!!! Ah the Hudd & District Sunday League - fond memories |
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