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Post by malcolmbrown on Sept 26, 2024 10:46:49 GMT 1
Given the abject performances at home recently it is almost impossible to envision promotion this season. If I was being alarmist I might be worried about relegation given that four teams go down. Personally I think we'll stay up but it won't be a comfortable ride.
Which division do you think we'll be playing in?
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Post by Wingman on Sept 26, 2024 11:04:48 GMT 1
No chance of going down, not much chance of promotion on current performances.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2024 11:26:42 GMT 1
'think' will stay up? Jaysus, Duff is right saying Yorkshire folk are glass half empty....!!!
Minimum expectation STILL Top 6 for me. We are shite, yet currently in the Top 6. My simple brain tells me that, as we get better, we will mathematically likely not keep slipping down the table.......
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 26, 2024 11:29:47 GMT 1
'think' will stay up? Jaysus, Duff is right saying Yorkshire folk are glass half empty....!!! Minimum expectation STILL Top 6 for me. We are shite, yet currently in the Top 6. My simple brain tells me that, as we get better, we will mathematically likely not keep slipping down the table....... What do you think changes to stop the team playing so shit? You’re quick to call people bed wetters but I’m yet to see a proper opinion.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2024 11:37:52 GMT 1
I was hopeful before the season started, listening to Nagle's fighting talk I was expecting a clear out and some decent investment in the squad, but that hasn't happened.
On paper the signings of Evans, Sorensen and Kane looked like solid signings for this level but they can't seem to string back to back performances together, although Kane has just come back from injury so hard to judge. We badly needed experienced leaders but we opted for inexperienced kids on loan. We brought in a free agent striker after the window closed because we completely failed yet again to invest in one, he looks nowhere near match fit and was terrible on Tuesday.
The defence looks as fragile and error prone as last season, the midfield is nonexistent and we're relying on a winger and a lad that had barely kicked a ball in senior football to get us the goals.
We're currently in a false position in the table because 5 teams below us have a game in hand so I think 7th is a more realistic position not 5th and the top two are pulling away already.
We look fragile, gutless and a shambles, particularly at home, which is a massive worry. The players look like they have no idea what they're being asked to do. The instructions are either not clear enough or they are incapable of carrying out the instructions asked of them.
I was expecting a charge at the autos but as it stands I think we'll struggle for top 6.
Very disappointing from the people at the top yet again.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2024 11:43:21 GMT 1
'think' will stay up? Jaysus, Duff is right saying Yorkshire folk are glass half empty....!!! Minimum expectation STILL Top 6 for me. We are shite, yet currently in the Top 6. My simple brain tells me that, as we get better, we will mathematically likely not keep slipping down the table....... What do you think changes to stop the team playing so shit? You’re quick to call people bed wetters but I’m yet to see a proper opinion. - We have a squad of players that are amongst the most valuable in the division; despite recent shit, there are quality players in the squad - We are not Man City playing like superheros every week.. We will have shit games, put in shit performances and have a patch or few patches where we see a dip (we are in one) - Duff is a proven decent manager at this level and it has been noted his teams sometimes take time to grow into the season - We have a window in January to further enhance the squad - Duff and the players are taking responsibility; they know they have been shite - I have seen and heard more already from Duff to suggest he is better equipped than the previous few managers to get us where we need to be If you read some of the tripe on social media you would think we were rock bottom with no win........ Please come back to this post in May when we finish in the Top 6 and I can say I told you so. Ta. UTFT
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 26, 2024 11:52:27 GMT 1
What do you think changes to stop the team playing so shit? You’re quick to call people bed wetters but I’m yet to see a proper opinion. - We have a squad of players that are amongst the most valuable in the division; despite recent shit, there are quality players in the squad - We are not Man City playing like superheros every week.. We will have shit games, put in shit performances and have a patch or few patches where we see a dip (we are in one) - Duff is a proven decent manager at this level and it has been noted his teams sometimes take time to grow into the season - We have a window in January to further enhance the squad - Duff and the players are taking responsibility; they know they have been shite - I have seen and heard more already from Duff to suggest he is better equipped than the previous few managers to get us where we need to be If you read some of the tripe on social media you would think we were rock bottom with no win........ Please come back to this post in May when we finish in the Top 6 and I can say I told you so. Ta. UTFT Why would I come back to this post when I never mentioned anything about not being in the top 6? The issue is when players come out and say the other team ran harder and tried harder than our own players. That’s not a dip, that’s excusing our players for not working hard enough. At the bare minimum, we should be matching the work ethic of the other team. The tactics can come later, all the fans want to see is a team that is putting their all into winning. The last two games, they weren’t. ‘The manager and players know’ - well then where was the reaction against Blackpool?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 26, 2024 12:02:45 GMT 1
Think a lot of the fanbase has gone bat shit crazy and lost our minds. The Bolton win has done more harm than good in ramping everyone up to thinking that we're the best team in the league, we played well that day but jn no way was it a totally great dominant performance, thought that at the time coming out of the ground.
I'm in no way pleased about the Northampton and Blackpool debacle but the warning signs were there in the Walsall game, albeit it with one of two different starters. The other games have been hit and miss but you can accept that in thinking things will improve and we'll get stronger. The jury is still out at the minute but I do feel we'll get better and maintain a promotion push will be established. Like I said before there is no way Wrexham are a better side than Town and we have to beat them to get 2nd then I think it's doable. That said we can't be losing anymore home games now, that's 2 and it's the end of September, a solid home form needs to be maintained to achieve 2nd.
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Post by cyberman on Sept 26, 2024 12:03:06 GMT 1
No chance of going down, not much chance of promotion on current performances. All depends if we sleepwalk or not ?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 26, 2024 12:05:33 GMT 1
A couple of bad results doesn't mean the season is over
Who would have thought when we were getting hammered by Macclesfield that we would go on to be promoted under Jacko.
A long way to go yet
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2024 12:09:05 GMT 1
- We have a squad of players that are amongst the most valuable in the division; despite recent shit, there are quality players in the squad - We are not Man City playing like superheros every week.. We will have shit games, put in shit performances and have a patch or few patches where we see a dip (we are in one) - Duff is a proven decent manager at this level and it has been noted his teams sometimes take time to grow into the season - We have a window in January to further enhance the squad - Duff and the players are taking responsibility; they know they have been shite - I have seen and heard more already from Duff to suggest he is better equipped than the previous few managers to get us where we need to be If you read some of the tripe on social media you would think we were rock bottom with no win........ Please come back to this post in May when we finish in the Top 6 and I can say I told you so. Ta. UTFT Why would I come back to this post when I never mentioned anything about not being in the top 6? The issue is when players come out and say the other team ran harder and tried harder than our own players. That’s not a dip, that’s excusing our players for not working hard enough. At the bare minimum, we should be matching the work ethic of the other team. The tactics can come later, all the fans want to see is a team that is putting their all into winning. The last two games, they weren’t. ‘The manager and players know’ - well then where was the reaction against Blackpool? Well, it's not a dip if happens for game after game after game after game.....but it is two bad results.........it is a dip in form. If it is not a dip in form and we are coming off the next several games with shit results and performances it becomes more of a worry. We should expect players to match and exceed opposition work ethic, Duff would agree. We need to see if that gets put into practice but for all the reasons I listed, I think it will. Where was the reaction to Blackpool? Good question, there wasn't one. Not good enough. Hope that changes this weekend. If it doesn't do i think we will still finish Top 6? Yes. based on your other question, you DO think we will finish Top 6 then? Why do you think we will finish Top 6?
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 26, 2024 12:28:16 GMT 1
No chance of going down, not much chance of promotion on current performances. It’s a bad slump at the minute and needs arresting and soon at that as well... But I’d say there’s not a chance in hell of going down to League 2 (Heaven forbid)... Promotion is still doable and a lot will be dependent on The January Transfer Window (I know...I know...) - It looks like being a very competitive league which is - in my humble opinion - healthy for everyone (My Goodness - Nobody wants The SPFL in Scotland which is the laughing stock of the universe)... We could be anywhere around mid table or up on the periphery of The Play Offs (Hopefully) Having said that a ‘quiet’ and safe well in advance ‘boring’ season for Huddersfield Town is about as rare as Auld Westie having a Tea Total Week !!! 😉 😬
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Post by detox on Sept 26, 2024 12:32:35 GMT 1
🎶🎶 things, can only get better 🎶🎶
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Post by willo on Sept 26, 2024 12:36:42 GMT 1
Too good to be relegated, not good enough to be promoted = somewhere mid-table. Said before a ball was kicked I expected us to finish 9th-15th and I’ve not seen much to suggest otherwise. We might just sneak a play-off place if some of these players we’ve invested a lot of faith in can step up to the plate and start performing as we expect them to.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2024 12:39:06 GMT 1
A couple of bad results doesn't mean the season is over Who would have thought when we were getting hammered by Macclesfield that we would go on to be promoted under Jacko. A long way to go yet A couple of very bad performances is obviously fresh in the mind, but at the start if we'd have known we'd be 5th after 7 games then I dont think anyone would have been flapping about relegation or writing off our chances of going up. Duffs got some work to do clearly, but I expect him to improve the performances.
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 26, 2024 12:45:29 GMT 1
A couple of bad results doesn't mean the season is over Who would have thought when we were getting hammered by Macclesfield that we would go on to be promoted under Jacko. A long way to go yet A couple of very bad performances is obviously fresh in the mind, but at the start if we'd have known we'd be 5th after 7 games then I dont think anyone would have been flapping about relegation or writing off our chances of going up. Duffs got some work to do clearly, but I expect him to improve the performances. Hopefully he does indeed manage that... The only downside is that we’ve been given kind fixtures and blew it against some of the alleged ‘beatable’ teams... I’m sure that it’s gonna get a little bit tougher as we start rocking into deep and darkest Autumn ! 🌿
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2024 13:12:39 GMT 1
A couple of very bad performances is obviously fresh in the mind, but at the start if we'd have known we'd be 5th after 7 games then I dont think anyone would have been flapping about relegation or writing off our chances of going up. Duffs got some work to do clearly, but I expect him to improve the performances. Hopefully he does indeed manage that... The only downside is that we’ve been given kind fixtures and blew it against some of the alleged ‘beatable’ teams...I’m sure that it’s gonna get a little bit tougher as we start rocking into deep and darkest Autumn ! 🌿 Think at the start, most would have put Posh, Rotherham and Bolton as being amongst the toughest away games we'll face. Northampton and Blackpool at home would have been seen as home bankers though.
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Sept 26, 2024 13:13:57 GMT 1
'think' will stay up? Jaysus, Duff is right saying Yorkshire folk are glass half empty....!!! Minimum expectation STILL Top 6 for me. We are shite, yet currently in the Top 6. My simple brain tells me that, as we get better, we will mathematically likely not keep slipping down the table....... We are shite, yet currently in the Top 6. My simple brain tells me if we continue to be shite your expectations will be like our latest strikers much vaunted goal scoring, a fantasy.
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Post by wigster on Sept 26, 2024 13:34:11 GMT 1
What do you think changes to stop the team playing so shit? You’re quick to call people bed wetters but I’m yet to see a proper opinion. - We have a squad of players that are amongst the most valuable in the division; despite recent shit, there are quality players in the squad - We are not Man City playing like superheros every week.. We will have shit games, put in shit performances and have a patch or few patches where we see a dip (we are in one) - Duff is a proven decent manager at this level and it has been noted his teams sometimes take time to grow into the season - We have a window in January to further enhance the squad - Duff and the players are taking responsibility; they know they have been shite - I have seen and heard more already from Duff to suggest he is better equipped than the previous few managers to get us where we need to be If you read some of the tripe on social media you would think we were rock bottom with no win........ Please come back to this post in May when we finish in the Top 6 and I can say I told you so. Ta. UTFT "We have a window in January to further enhance the squad". Goodness me. apart from being able to argue very convincingly that Mr Cartwright has NOT "enhanced the squad", how many times have we had this "wait till January/the end of the season/until the window closes etc etc" hope. We have simply been let down so many times. Never mind central midfield/pace at the back etc we have been looking for a proven striker for goodness knows how many transfer periods. We now have Freddie for two years. Is this the third September running when we are now looking desperately to the "window in January" ?
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Sept 26, 2024 13:54:35 GMT 1
A couple of bad results doesn't mean the season is over Who would have thought when we were getting hammered by Macclesfield that we would go on to be promoted under Jacko. A long way to go yet True but its not about a couple of bad results is it, its expectation yet again coming to nothing. Players whose attitude and lack of professionalism was summed up in what do fans expect comment, they expect graft not lame excuses.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Sept 26, 2024 14:10:42 GMT 1
A couple of bad results doesn't mean the season is over Who would have thought when we were getting hammered by Macclesfield that we would go on to be promoted under Jacko. A long way to go yet Scunthorpe had battered us a month or so before that Macc game also, that whole season didn’t really get going until Xmas, we had a similar start to now under Carlos when we finished 3rd including that Fulham at home performance.
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Post by digs on Sept 26, 2024 15:14:22 GMT 1
Same league one as its always been,big things expected,but there's always two teams better than us that we can't pip for automatic promotion,so I'd expect playoffs or less
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Post by stevvy on Sept 26, 2024 15:50:25 GMT 1
Fucking hell, League 2, seriously? Give your head a fucking shake. There's being alarmist, and then there's this.
Sorry for being so blunt above, but to even consider the possibility of us getting relegated this season is beyond absurd
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 26, 2024 16:18:31 GMT 1
Fucking hell, League 2, seriously? Give your head a fucking shake. There's being alarmist, and then there's this. Sorry for being so blunt above, but to even consider the possibility of us getting relegated this season is beyond absurd As I said up thread, some of the fanbase has gone bat shit crazy in the last week or so, totally losing their heads.
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Post by martay on Sept 26, 2024 16:28:51 GMT 1
Even thinking about the relegation option is taking negativity to a whole new level!! 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by waggers on Sept 26, 2024 16:46:35 GMT 1
Would need an immediate upturn in form to have any chance of building a promotion push. Wheels seem to have fallen off, same old reasons.
We'll be back to the days where we need a Simon Grayson to save us from League 1 monotony.
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Post by utttrooper on Sept 26, 2024 16:47:36 GMT 1
Fucking hell, League 2, seriously? Give your head a fucking shake. There's being alarmist, and then there's this. Sorry for being so blunt above, but to even consider the possibility of us getting relegated this season is beyond absurd Surely we can't be worse than Cambridge, Shrewsbury, Burton or Crawley.
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Post by tonytiler on Sept 26, 2024 16:51:48 GMT 1
No promotion this season we look garbage.Would concentrate an at least top half of the table as a minimum unless there is some massive improvement up to end of the year,I think that's best that can be hoped for.
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Post by malcolmbrown on Sept 26, 2024 17:48:14 GMT 1
Fucking hell, League 2, seriously? Give your head a fucking shake. There's being alarmist, and then there's this. Sorry for being so blunt above, but to even consider the possibility of us getting relegated this season is beyond absurd I started the thread and predicted we would be in this division next season not league 2. Having seen all of our home games this season I can tell you we are way, way off promotion material. Not a controversial opinion at all. The poll backs me up.
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Post by sabailand on Sept 26, 2024 18:15:47 GMT 1
Form changes like the weather, in fact a team doesn't have to be prticularly good to get promoted, stick around within touching distance of the playoffs and a good run at the right time and you're three games off promotion, Oxford were pretty erratic last season but came good at the right time and went up, last two games we've been admittedly crap but we aint going to be like that all season, have some patience.
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