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Oct 20, 2024 19:23:14 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 20, 2024 19:23:14 GMT 1
It wasn’t. I was stood with a perfect view. Diameter of ball was well over the line. Doesn’t mean the ball is though. And I’m not a fan of this either. It’s like they’re being clever getting nearer the goal. Weird obsession Really?  Perhaps he meant the byline |
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Post by impact on Oct 20, 2024 19:27:27 GMT 1
Given we conceded to a Reading player taking a corner to himself, I think we're OK to get away with this one.
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Post by impact on Oct 20, 2024 19:29:31 GMT 1
Such a simple rewording of the rule to say that all of the ball must be within the quantrant, and this nonsense would stop immediately. Nonsense indeed. What is the point in trying to pinch a couple of inches? If the ref, lino or VAR (in the PL) had spotted it, that goal would have been chalked off. It wouldn't. If the ref or linesman had seen it, they'd have intervened before he'd taken it like we have all seen before. VAR can't intervene on it. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 20, 2024 19:44:17 GMT 1
I used to be a left winger and often took corners from both sides. We used to just plonk the ball on the line and get on with it. Another example of an unnecessary complication to what should be a simple rule by allowing an imaginary plane from the edge of the ball to be (partially) overhanging the outer edge of the line to be legitimate. I don’t ever remember kicking the corner flag by mistake.
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 20, 2024 23:55:04 GMT 1
It wasn’t. I was stood with a perfect view. Diameter of ball was well over the line. Doesn’t mean the ball is though. And I’m not a fan of this either. It’s like they’re being clever getting nearer the goal. Weird obsession Really? What I don’t really understand is why/how the lino didn’t spot this! The corners started outside the quadrant and got progressively further. Surely from the halfway line it would have been obvious?? Although this is the lino who didn’t award a throw in when the ball went about a foot over the line. |
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Wiles
Oct 21, 2024 16:58:05 GMT 1
Post by dm on Oct 21, 2024 16:58:05 GMT 1
In 2024, is there any reason why corner flags haven't been phased out?
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Oct 21, 2024 17:01:28 GMT 1
Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 21, 2024 17:01:28 GMT 1
In 2024, is there any reason why corner flags haven't been phased out? A good question. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Oct 21, 2024 17:01:49 GMT 1
In 2024, is there any reason why corner flags haven't been phased out? What picture would they use when a manager is sacked? |
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Post by joek on Oct 21, 2024 17:35:04 GMT 1
In 2024, is there any reason why corner flags haven't been phased out? Am I missing something?! Why would you want a corner flag phased out? |
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Oct 21, 2024 17:49:10 GMT 1
Post by dm on Oct 21, 2024 17:49:10 GMT 1
In 2024, is there any reason why corner flags haven't been phased out? Am I missing something?! Why would you want a corner flag phased out? Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 21, 2024 17:53:48 GMT 1
Am I missing something?! Why would you want a corner flag phased out? Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? They help a liner and ref to distinguish between a throw-in or corner |
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Post by joek on Oct 21, 2024 17:55:49 GMT 1
Am I missing something?! Why would you want a corner flag phased out? Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? They show everyone in the ground where the four corners of the pitch are. They make clear whether it should be corner or throw in. Don’t understand why you would want to get rid of them! Would look weird without them! Interesting (!!) thread here: refchat.co.uk/threads/importance-of-corner-flags.11578/ |
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Oct 22, 2024 11:53:51 GMT 1
Post by townarentbest on Oct 22, 2024 11:53:51 GMT 1
Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? They make clear whether it should be corner or throw in. Don’t understand why you would want to get rid of them! Would look weird without them! Interesting (!!) thread here: refchat.co.uk/threads/importance-of-corner-flags.11578/This bit blows my mind that people in the ground wouldn't know where the corners are without flags !! !🤯😀😀 Is it my memory, or did it use to be common to have halfway line flags, that I think were actually set back a bit from the touchline? Or was that just in Subbuteo?! And on a related topic, Subbuteo has an extra line on the pitch, midway between the goal line and the half way line...and you can only shoot/score from beyond that line (the "Shooting line"?). More than that, offside only comes into play when beyond the shooting line, rather than when over the halfway line. I am utterly convinced that an extra line was trialled in a pretty major league and used as a new line for offside...does anyone recognise this in their memory...probably at some point between 1978 and 1984 I reckon! |
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Oct 22, 2024 12:15:09 GMT 1
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Post by joek on Oct 22, 2024 12:15:09 GMT 1
They show everyone in the ground where the four corners of the pitch are. They make clear whether it should be corner or throw in. Don’t understand why you would want to get rid of them! Would look weird without them! Interesting (!!) thread here: refchat.co.uk/threads/importance-of-corner-flags.11578/ This bit blows my mind that people in the ground wouldn't know where the corners are without flags !! !🤯😀😀 Is it my memory, or did it use to be common to have halfway line flags, that I think were actually set back a bit from the touchline? Or was that just in Subbuteo?! And on a related topic, Subbuteo has an extra line on the pitch, midway between the goal line and the half way line...and you can only shoot/score from beyond that line (the "Shooting line"?). More than that, offside only comes into play when beyond the shooting line, rather than when over the halfway line. I am utterly convinced that an extra line was trialled in a pretty major league and used as a new line for offside...does anyone recognise this in their memory...probably at some point between 1978 and 1984 I reckon! This thread is blowing my mind in general! I just want corner flags to be left alone! There was a bit on that link I posted about half-way line flags but I don’t remember them. No idea about any additional lines though. I’m all for progress but getting rid of corner flags doesn’t represent that and it’s bothering me that some people want to get rid of them!!! |
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Post by digs on Oct 22, 2024 12:23:55 GMT 1
Am I missing something?! Why would you want a corner flag phased out? Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? Let's get rid of goal posts too,I'm sure the players and officials could argue wether it's a goal or not,just like they would if corner flags went for throws and corners. |
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Oct 22, 2024 12:38:47 GMT 1
Post by araucaria on Oct 22, 2024 12:38:47 GMT 1
I used to be a left winger and often took corners from both sides. We used to just plonk the ball on the line and get on with it. Another example of an unnecessary complication to what should be a simple rule by allowing an imaginary plane from the edge of the ball to be (partially) overhanging the outer edge of the line to be legitimate. I don’t ever remember kicking the corner flag by mistake. Do you recall a few seasons ago a Wigan player kicking the corner flag and moving the ball a few yards? We took possession and set off up the field only for the ref to blow and let them re-take it. My son won a football shirt from the Observer's You Are The Ref when Keith Hackett agreed that the ref should have waved play on. |
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Oct 22, 2024 13:41:32 GMT 1
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Post by joek on Oct 22, 2024 13:41:32 GMT 1
Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? Let's get rid of goal posts too,I'm sure the players and officials could argue wether it's a goal or not,just like they would if corner flags went for throws and corners. There speaks the voice of sanity and reason. |
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Oct 22, 2024 13:54:11 GMT 1
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Post by pinstripe on Oct 22, 2024 13:54:11 GMT 1
Let's get rid of goal posts too,I'm sure the players and officials could argue wether it's a goal or not,just like they would if corner flags went for throws and corners. There speaks the voice of sanity and reason. I think we should just get rid of the ball for near constant appeals and referee decisions about what was imagined to have happened. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 22, 2024 16:09:32 GMT 1
Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? Let's get rid of goal posts too,I'm sure the players and officials could argue wether it's a goal or not,just like they would if corner flags went for throws and corners. When using a driveway as goals for a game of ENGLISH (headers and volleys), there was pretty much always a call for "in off the crossbar" or "miles over" from whoever was in goal at the time! Pretty much whoever declared earliest and with most confidence got the decision in their favour!! |
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Post by Wingman on Oct 22, 2024 16:24:58 GMT 1
Let's get rid of goal posts too,I'm sure the players and officials could argue wether it's a goal or not,just like they would if corner flags went for throws and corners. When using a driveway as goals for a game of ENGLISH (headers and volleys), there was pretty much always a call for "in off the crossbar" or "miles over" from whoever was in goal at the time! Pretty much whoever declared earliest and with most confidence got the decision in their favour!! ‘Jumpers for goalposts, young boys playing with their mates, ‘ooh that was over’, ‘ no, no it was in, in I tell you’, young girls sat watching, little people having fun eh eh’ (c) Paul Whitehouse, The Fast Show and the BBC, circa 1995. |
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Oct 26, 2024 8:55:39 GMT 1
Post by stable on Oct 26, 2024 8:55:39 GMT 1
They show everyone in the ground where the four corners of the pitch are. They make clear whether it should be corner or throw in. Don’t understand why you would want to get rid of them! Would look weird without them! Interesting (!!) thread here: refchat.co.uk/threads/importance-of-corner-flags.11578/ This bit blows my mind that people in the ground wouldn't know where the corners are without flags !! !🤯😀😀 Is it my memory, or did it use to be common to have halfway line flags, that I think were actually set back a bit from the touchline? Or was that just in Subbuteo?! And on a related topic, Subbuteo has an extra line on the pitch, midway between the goal line and the half way line...and you can only shoot/score from beyond that line (the "Shooting line"?). More than that, offside only comes into play when beyond the shooting line, rather than when over the halfway line. I am utterly convinced that an extra line was trialled in a pretty major league and used as a new line for offside...does anyone recognise this in their memory...probably at some point between 1978 and 1984 I reckon! All seems familiar, and had also presumed that flags were art the halfway - but way also have got that from subbuteo. Was it the old USA league with New York Cosmos, Los Angeles Aztecs, Tampa Bay Rowdies etc. - sure they had some kind of attacking area or something of the sort at some point? |
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Oct 26, 2024 9:45:49 GMT 1
Post by goodbet on Oct 26, 2024 9:45:49 GMT 1
This bit blows my mind that people in the ground wouldn't know where the corners are without flags !! !🤯😀😀 Is it my memory, or did it use to be common to have halfway line flags, that I think were actually set back a bit from the touchline? Or was that just in Subbuteo?! And on a related topic, Subbuteo has an extra line on the pitch, midway between the goal line and the half way line...and you can only shoot/score from beyond that line (the "Shooting line"?). More than that, offside only comes into play when beyond the shooting line, rather than when over the halfway line. I am utterly convinced that an extra line was trialled in a pretty major league and used as a new line for offside...does anyone recognise this in their memory...probably at some point between 1978 and 1984 I reckon! All seems familiar, and had also presumed that flags were art the halfway - but way also have got that from subbuteo. Was it the old USA league with New York Cosmos, Los Angeles Aztecs, Tampa Bay Rowdies etc. - sure they had some kind of attacking area or something of the sort at some point? If I remember correctly, you were right it was introduced in the old USA league and it was introduced as the new offside line rather than using the halfway line. As the rule change was not sanctioned by FIFA they had to remove it from use. |
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Oct 26, 2024 11:41:05 GMT 1
Post by townarentbest on Oct 26, 2024 11:41:05 GMT 1
This bit blows my mind that people in the ground wouldn't know where the corners are without flags !! !🤯😀😀 Is it my memory, or did it use to be common to have halfway line flags, that I think were actually set back a bit from the touchline? Or was that just in Subbuteo?! And on a related topic, Subbuteo has an extra line on the pitch, midway between the goal line and the half way line...and you can only shoot/score from beyond that line (the "Shooting line"?). More than that, offside only comes into play when beyond the shooting line, rather than when over the halfway line. I am utterly convinced that an extra line was trialled in a pretty major league and used as a new line for offside...does anyone recognise this in their memory...probably at some point between 1978 and 1984 I reckon! All seems familiar, and had also presumed that flags were art the halfway - but way also have got that from subbuteo. Was it the old USA league with New York Cosmos, Los Angeles Aztecs, Tampa Bay Rowdies etc. - sure they had some kind of attacking area or something of the sort at some point? Apparently an extra line was trialled in the Scottish League Cup for two seasons in the early 1970's, they extended the edge of the penalty area to the touchline, and you could only be offside in that final 18 yards of the pitch. |
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Post by jp on Oct 26, 2024 16:10:21 GMT 1
He’s growing on me for sure.. He has real quality.
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Oct 26, 2024 16:21:33 GMT 1
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Post by jp on Oct 26, 2024 16:21:33 GMT 1
Go on boy!
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Post by goodbet on Oct 26, 2024 16:51:26 GMT 1
All seems familiar, and had also presumed that flags were art the halfway - but way also have got that from subbuteo. Was it the old USA league with New York Cosmos, Los Angeles Aztecs, Tampa Bay Rowdies etc. - sure they had some kind of attacking area or something of the sort at some point? Apparently an extra line was trialled in the Scottish League Cup for two seasons in the early 1970's, they extended the edge of the penalty area to the touchline, and you could only be offside in that final 18 yards of the pitch. The additional line used in the USA was approximately halfway between the penalty area and the centreline. |
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Oct 26, 2024 17:24:16 GMT 1
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Post by fredcarno1 on Oct 26, 2024 17:24:16 GMT 1
He’s growing on me for sure.. He has real quality. He’s found his level, decent League 1 player nothing more. If we go up we need far far better than any of the current midfielders |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Oct 26, 2024 17:27:22 GMT 1
He’s growing on me for sure.. He has real quality. He’s found his level, decent League 1 player nothing more. If we go up we need far far better than any of the current midfielders Kasumu the only one who you actually notice. I like wiles and Kane but they aren’t the guys who are going to run around like mo farah. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Not even November |
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Oct 26, 2024 18:01:29 GMT 1
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Post by jim100 on Oct 26, 2024 18:01:29 GMT 1
Long time since we had a genuine goal threat in midfield even if it is at a vastly inferior level
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Oct 26, 2024 18:32:16 GMT 1
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 26, 2024 18:32:16 GMT 1
Long time since we had a genuine goal threat in midfield even if it is at a vastly inferior level 5 goals with 3 assists in all competitions this season. Keep it up, Ben! |
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