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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 18:40:13 GMT 1
Post by potlessphil on Oct 26, 2024 18:40:13 GMT 1
He’s growing on me for sure.. He has real quality. He’s found his level, decent League 1 player nothing more. If we go up we need far far better than any of the current midfielders Exactly this. Still doesn't dictate a game or have much meaningful input other than the most important of all - scoring and assists! Very happy to see he has risen to the occasion and hopefully this season he can pay back that investment and the faith put in him. If we do go up he would be one of the first out the door; not quick enough or good enough for bottom the championship. Shines in a lge1 side with a far superior budget in a poor division.
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Post by jp on Oct 26, 2024 18:55:08 GMT 1
He’s growing on me for sure.. He has real quality. He’s found his level, decent League 1 player nothing more. If we go up we need far far better than any of the current midfielders I’m not looking further ahead than chasing down Brum.. If we can stay in touch with them we won’t be far away from our goal. Wiles has quality in delivery and ball striking and he really can finish. These are relatively rare commodities at this level so long may this form continue. Good on him.
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 19:18:58 GMT 1
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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2024 19:18:58 GMT 1
Am I missing something?! Why would you want a corner flag phased out? Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? They did get rid of the halfway flags if you remember those.
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 20:00:25 GMT 1
Post by rubicon on Oct 26, 2024 20:00:25 GMT 1
Strangely at 72, I too see no point in corner flags. The quarter is ignored anyway, and let's be honest, they do just get in the way. I'd rather they weren't there, give players the chance to take a corner from the quadrant without a less than 1.5 metre minimum stick in the way. Laws change all the time, what is their point apart from occasionally keeping the ball in play.
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 20:04:06 GMT 1
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Post by rubicon on Oct 26, 2024 20:04:06 GMT 1
Am I missing something, why would it matter if they were gone? What purpose do they serve? They did get rid of the halfway flags if you remember those. I do, and agree they all seem pretty pointless. Wonder how many on here actually know which teams "traditionally" have triangular corner flags as opposed to square ones and why?
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Post by royrace on Oct 26, 2024 20:15:02 GMT 1
Strangely at 72, I too see no point in corner flags. The quarter is ignored anyway, and let's be honest, they do just get in the way. I'd rather they weren't there, give players the chance to take a corner from the quadrant without a less than 1.5 metre minimum stick in the way. Laws change all the time, what is their point apart from occasionally keeping the ball in play. Surprised this question is even being asked! They aid visual identification of the corner of the pitch, for players, ref, lino and fans! They also allow differentiation between a corner, goal kick or throw in, plus, without the flag if it rolls over the corner it's guess work.
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Post by rubicon on Oct 26, 2024 20:19:14 GMT 1
Strangely at 72, I too see no point in corner flags. The quarter is ignored anyway, and let's be honest, they do just get in the way. I'd rather they weren't there, give players the chance to take a corner from the quadrant without a less than 1.5 metre minimum stick in the way. Laws change all the time, what is their point apart from occasionally keeping the ball in play. Surprised this question is even being asked! They aid visual identification of the corner of the pitch, for players, ref, lino and fans! They also allow differentiation between a corner, goal kick or throw in, plus, without the flag if it rolls over the corner it's guess work. Fair enough, decent answer. Still there must have been some similar reason for the centre line flags, which no longer applies. ( Silly idea........maybe like golf flags, one should have the choice to remove them when actually taking a corner?)
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Post by efesodje23 on Oct 26, 2024 20:19:44 GMT 1
They did get rid of the halfway flags if you remember those. I do, and agree they all seem pretty pointless. Wonder how many on here actually know which teams "traditionally" have triangular corner flags as opposed to square ones and why? Easy. Traditionally we had square flags. But Hoyle changed them to triangular to reduce costs when he was asset stripping the club...
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 20:24:59 GMT 1
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Post by rubicon on Oct 26, 2024 20:24:59 GMT 1
I'm sure even after a bottle and a half of wine, you're on the wind up with that last comment. Mind I'm old, so do enjoy.
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Oct 26, 2024 20:39:34 GMT 1
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Post by joek on Oct 26, 2024 20:39:34 GMT 1
Strangely at 72, I too see no point in corner flags. The quarter is ignored anyway, and let's be honest, they do just get in the way. I'd rather they weren't there, give players the chance to take a corner from the quadrant without a less than 1.5 metre minimum stick in the way. Laws change all the time, what is their point apart from occasionally keeping the ball in play. Surprised this question is even being asked! They aid visual identification of the corner of the pitch, for players, ref, lino and fans! They also allow differentiation between a corner, goal kick or throw in, plus, without the flag if it rolls over the corner it's guess work. 60th minute today and Town player clattered corner flag in trying to prevent a goal kick. Obvious throw-in given that wouldn’t have been as obvious without the flag being there!
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 20:50:57 GMT 1
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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2024 20:50:57 GMT 1
Strangely at 72, I too see no point in corner flags. The quarter is ignored anyway, and let's be honest, they do just get in the way. I'd rather they weren't there, give players the chance to take a corner from the quadrant without a less than 1.5 metre minimum stick in the way. Laws change all the time, what is their point apart from occasionally keeping the ball in play. Surprised this question is even being asked! They aid visual identification of the corner of the pitch, for players, ref, lino and fans! They also allow differentiation between a corner, goal kick or throw in, plus, without the flag if it rolls over the corner it's guess work. Bang on Roy Half way flags though?
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Post by incognito on Oct 26, 2024 21:07:14 GMT 1
They did get rid of the halfway flags if you remember those. I do, and agree they all seem pretty pointless. Wonder how many on here actually know which teams "traditionally" have triangular corner flags as opposed to square ones and why? "It's because if you've won the FA Cu P it means you can have triangular flags on your f**king pitch, 'cause you've won the f**king cu P. And that is f**king right. That's why Cardiff's got triangles, and Swansea's got f**king squares..."
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 21:23:24 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 26, 2024 21:23:24 GMT 1
Surprised this question is even being asked! They aid visual identification of the corner of the pitch, for players, ref, lino and fans! They also allow differentiation between a corner, goal kick or throw in, plus, without the flag if it rolls over the corner it's guess work. Bang on Roy Half way flags though? Visual assistance for offside, or equally confirming you were in your own half?
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 21:29:39 GMT 1
Post by Paphos Terrier on Oct 26, 2024 21:29:39 GMT 1
I want to know who nicked the net pegs!
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 21:41:10 GMT 1
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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2024 21:41:10 GMT 1
Bang on Roy Half way flags though? Visual assistance for offside, or equally confirming you were in your own half? Visual assistance etc etc
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Oct 26, 2024 21:55:45 GMT 1
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Post by softboy on Oct 26, 2024 21:55:45 GMT 1
Gets on with the game. Not dominate. But scores and assists, not sure what else people want. More running around and no end product?
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Oct 26, 2024 22:10:13 GMT 1
Gets on with the game. Not dominate. But scores and assists, not sure what else people want. More running around and no end product? He came out of his shell today but against Wrexham when it was a bit too physical for him he went missing again. He's okay for this league but end of this season if promoted we will need a major clear out.
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Oct 26, 2024 22:16:07 GMT 1
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Post by keefer on Oct 26, 2024 22:16:07 GMT 1
Gets on with the game. Not dominate. But scores and assists, not sure what else people want. More running around and no end product? He came out of his shell today but against Wrexham when it was a bit too physical for him he went missing again. He's okay for this league but end of this season if promoted we will need a major clear out. Can we upgrade our "support" too?
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 22:38:03 GMT 1
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Oct 26, 2024 22:38:03 GMT 1
Gets on with the game. Not dominate. But scores and assists, not sure what else people want. More running around and no end product? He came out of his shell today but against Wrexham when it was a bit too physical for him he went missing again. He's okay for this league but end of this season if promoted we will need a major clear out. Consistently inconsistent, that's how I describe him. The lad can play, but it's not too often that he does, hopefully he'll gain a bit more confidence from today and use it to fuel some better performances on a more regular basis.
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Wiles
Oct 26, 2024 22:38:47 GMT 1
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Oct 26, 2024 22:38:47 GMT 1
He came out of his shell today but against Wrexham when it was a bit too physical for him he went missing again. He's okay for this league but end of this season if promoted we will need a major clear out. Can we upgrade our "support" too? Offering valid criticism of a player does not make someone less of a supporter.
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Wiles
Oct 27, 2024 9:38:31 GMT 1
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Oct 27, 2024 9:38:31 GMT 1
I want to know who nicked the net pegs! And the Jumpers for goal posts.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 27, 2024 10:16:39 GMT 1
Strangely at 72, I too see no point in corner flags. The quarter is ignored anyway, and let's be honest, they do just get in the way. I'd rather they weren't there, give players the chance to take a corner from the quadrant without a less than 1.5 metre minimum stick in the way. Laws change all the time, what is their point apart from occasionally keeping the ball in play. Surprised this question is even being asked! They aid visual identification of the corner of the pitch, for players, ref, lino and fans! They also allow differentiation between a corner, goal kick or throw in, plus, without the flag if it rolls over the corner it's guess work. Can you please stop with common sense. This is DATM.
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 27, 2024 12:31:07 GMT 1
I do, and agree they all seem pretty pointless. Wonder how many on here actually know which teams "traditionally" have triangular corner flags as opposed to square ones and why? Easy. Traditionally we had square flags. But Hoyle changed them to triangular to reduce costs when he was asset stripping the club... Because we won the FA Cup. (although its just a tradition with no basis in the FA rules and all clubs are free to have triangular or square flags).
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Wiles
Oct 27, 2024 23:10:32 GMT 1
Post by Tinpot on Oct 27, 2024 23:10:32 GMT 1
I love that we're all assuming that we'll get promotion this season! Honestly, I'm becoming increasingly confident that we'll only spend a year at this level but it's difficult not to get at least a little bit giddy.
As for whether "Player X" is good enough if we get promoted: 1) What if we don't? Are they good enough to be part of another tilt at promotion? 2) If we get promoted, what are our hopes for the club? 3) What are our expectations for the role "Player X" will be expected to do?
Is "Player X" good enough to be a first team regular at a club that's chasing the title? Is he good enough to be a decent option as cover at a club that's hoping to just stay up & consolidate in their first season back up? Players like Miller & Kasumu are good enough for the latter but not the former.
Wiles? I'd be inclined to give him a second chance. He was absolute bobbins last season, but good players sometimes have shit seasons. Maybe Wiles is better this season because he's "found his level" or maybe he'll carry on looking decent at the level above now that he seems more settled & our club looks less chaotic. There's also of course, the question of whether we receive a suitable offer for him. He'll still be under contract next season regardless of which division we're in.
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Post by utttrooper on Oct 28, 2024 0:04:23 GMT 1
I love that we're all assuming that we'll get promotion this season! Honestly, I'm becoming increasingly confident that we'll only spend a year at this level but it's difficult not to get at least a little bit giddy. As for whether "Player X" is good enough if we get promoted: 1) What if we don't? Are they good enough to be part of another tilt at promotion? 2) If we get promoted, what are our hopes for the club? 3) What are our expectations for the role "Player X" will be expected to do? Is "Player X" good enough to be a first team regular at a club that's chasing the title? Is he good enough to be a decent option as cover at a club that's hoping to just stay up & consolidate in their first season back up? Players like Miller & Kasumu are good enough for the latter but not the former. Wiles? I'd be inclined to give him a second chance. He was absolute bobbins last season, but good players sometimes have shit seasons. Maybe Wiles is better this season because he's "found his level" or maybe he'll carry on looking decent at the level above now that he seems more settled & our club looks less chaotic. There's also of course, the question of whether we receive a suitable offer for him. He'll still be under contract next season regardless of which division we're in. With Wiles last season, he came in off the back of an injury and was unfit to begin with and could never build fitness because he had to play every game because everyone else was injured. He also never really got the chance to play as a number 10, even having Rudoni there and Wiles as an 8 despite both being better in each other's position. However I also think he was just a bit shit as well but this season has been able to find form, also helped with having players who can pass a ball 5 yards alongside him.
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Post by softboy on Oct 28, 2024 7:46:45 GMT 1
He scores goals, he creates goals. That will do for me.
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Wiles
Oct 28, 2024 11:27:07 GMT 1
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Post by drumriggend on Oct 28, 2024 11:27:07 GMT 1
Definitely better this season..
More his level I’m presuming..
Looked out of his depth last season..
He still looks permanently knackered tho..
Almost didn’t even have the energy to celebrate his goal..
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Wiles
Oct 28, 2024 11:30:53 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 28, 2024 11:30:53 GMT 1
Definitely better this season.. More his level I’m presuming.. Looked out of his depth last season.. He still looks permanently knackered tho.. Almost didn’t even have the energy to celebrate his goal.. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Isnt 'in' the game as much as a midfielder should be. Isnt where the ball is enough. Hopefully it changes as he gets fitter because that is still an issue for him. He can play, we have seen it in flashes, so Im still hopeful he gets to play more.
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Post by harri54 on Oct 28, 2024 19:21:37 GMT 1
Wiles - 1 million, more effective than Rudoni - 5 million, for both assists & more importantly, goals as a No 10.
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