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Post by andyboothscat on Nov 1, 2024 23:18:21 GMT 1
We are now into November and we have yet to score an equalizer this season. 8 times now we have gone behind and we have lost every game. Something very very wrong with the mentality of the players. That sir is a very well made point, and at the heart of our problem. We aren't mentally tough, in fact anything but. It’s not quite right though. Almost. But not quite. Ward equalised against Doncaster. Tin pot trophy and all and I know it doesn’t make it any better.
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Post by ldr on Nov 1, 2024 23:18:41 GMT 1
Hang in there pal. Tbh, I was more looking forward to England v NZ tomorrow. Haha - am fine. Just not arsed tbh. No excuses - mgmt and players utterly appalling. Duff hasn't a clue when things need shaking up.....just repeat failure time and again. Yeah, I hear you. Even at kids football, you throw a dice or two when it’s not happening. Duff seems…limited. Can you tell I’m being diplomatic? 😂
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:19:04 GMT 1
If Duff or better Nagel are reading this, get the team onto Heroic.us and get them all to be tge best versions of themselves. At thr moment they behave like failures and have no idea of being the best they can. Tonight was worse than a joke. So clueless that it's laughable This group of overpaid pre madonas are frankly nor deserving of support Why waste time watching this clueless gutless group of Individuals?? Season ticket was a waste of money.
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Post by Terriersmad on Nov 1, 2024 23:19:39 GMT 1
That sir is a very well made point, and at the heart of our problem. We aren't mentally tough, in fact anything but. It’s not quite right though. Almost. But not quite. Ward equalised against Doncaster. Tin pot trophy and all and I know it doesn’t make it any better. Made worse by the fact we then lost.
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Post by ldr on Nov 1, 2024 23:20:26 GMT 1
What do you think of Duff pal? I cannot warm to him and his insistence on one style couple with a lack of a plan B worry me. It finished him at Swansea. Is he stubborn or limited? Duff will blame the fans for not being supportive enough... That really didn’t help did it? Saying crap like that will always bite him on the arse in nights like this.
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Post by dugnet on Nov 1, 2024 23:20:30 GMT 1
I'm a pretty positive/ glass half merchant but that has to be one of the most hapless, spineless and characterless performances I have seen in 45 years support. It's not losing matches it's how you lose and that was as inept as I can remember. Coming out of the ground I said to some Tamworth fans they deserved it, and they did. We didn't cope with the pitch, which is no excuse, and looked heartless and 2nd rate. You keep hoping that we have turned a corner/stopped the rot and then we get a pitiful effort like this. I don't boo/berate the team, and didn't tonight but I couldn't criticise anyone who did...and there were plenty. Duff looked physically shaken by the response and he and the players deserved to too. I realised a few weeks ago that turning the Town tanker around was likely to take longer than we all hoped. Nights like this show how much there is to do. Mr Nagle and his team need to take notice because although anyone can have a bad night this really shows where the club is and how much more is required. A very bad night. A night when 16/17 seems like a dream that never happened. What do you think of Duff pal? I cannot warm to him and his insistence on one style couple with a lack of a plan B worry me. It finished him at Swansea. Is he stubborn or limited? I am still of the opinion that he can be a good manager for us but performances like this will raise question marks. On one hand he can't account for players being unable to control and pass the ball. He did try and change things but not to have a plan B on such a night isn't really good enough. I actually think it is a lack of quality that is the big problem. That and a lack of character. He needs to get the team to bounce back but, to my point above, I do worry about the resources available to him. I'll give him more time, if only because we can't keep sacking managers. Especially when those making the decisions are the same people who picked Duff. Perhaps the club ie Mr Nagle, need to have a long hard look at everything at the club. I'm not sure if that answers the question but overall someone has to stop the club lurching from one more disaster to another.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:20:36 GMT 1
No more days off now. It has concerned me all season that the players aren’t in the day after a match for a debrief and rehabilitation like nearly all pro clubs do these days. The fact we make it ‘optional’ because our manager is down in Cheltenham needs addressing. You ever wonder why we never adapt shape, formation or set piece routines? Why we never have a plan b or a discernible pattern of play? It’s because the training isn’t good enough and with this set of players it can’t be like that. Once you’ve experienced what good looks like under Wagner and corberan in recent times, this type of management and approach sticks out like a sore thumb. I'd cancel there next day off and they can spend 8 hours practising corners. I've never seen shitter corners in 35 years as a football fan - that's all football even Sunday League stuff. Every single one chipped into the goalies arms!
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Post by htfcterry on Nov 1, 2024 23:20:43 GMT 1
Pearson fucked me off. Flung his arms up at the away end. What did he expect after that? Fml.
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:21:09 GMT 1
What do you think of Duff pal? I cannot warm to him and his insistence on one style couple with a lack of a plan B worry me. It finished him at Swansea. Is he stubborn or limited? Duff will blame the fans for not being supportive enough...
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Post by Stiggy on Nov 1, 2024 23:21:23 GMT 1
We are now into November and we have yet to score an equalizer this season. 8 times now we have gone behind and we have lost every game. Something very very wrong with the mentality of the players. It’s because we have a side full of losers and no leadership. I’ve said it all along no player from last season should be playing for us this one. We needed a massive clear out at the end of last season and it didn’t happen and until we get rid of these losers it will keep getting worse..
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:21:25 GMT 1
That sir is a very well made point, and at the heart of our problem. We aren't mentally tough, in fact anything but. It’s not quite right though. Almost. But not quite. Ward equalised against Doncaster. Tin pot trophy and all and I know it doesn’t make it any better.
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Post by Wingman on Nov 1, 2024 23:21:33 GMT 1
They don’t have a fat substitute who can curl a ball into the top corner do they? If not, I don’t see a repeat of Accrington Stanley. So get backing Tamworth folks 😄 I did tell you all 🤦🏼♂️ How embarassing in front of a tv audience again.
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Post by incognito on Nov 1, 2024 23:22:11 GMT 1
In a few years' time there will be thousands of us claiming to have been there the night that sausage roll vendor threw it in on the plastic pitch. An iconic failure.
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Nov 1, 2024 23:22:11 GMT 1
It’s not quite right though. Almost. But not quite. Ward equalised against Doncaster. Tin pot trophy and all and I know it doesn’t make it any better. Made worse by the fact we then lost. I was going to go down against Man Utd, stuff that after that shambles
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Post by irverino on Nov 1, 2024 23:22:50 GMT 1
COLCHESTER UNITED, ACCRINGTONN STANLEY, TAMWORTH....... .
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Post by wigster on Nov 1, 2024 23:22:54 GMT 1
Don’t be silly. He can only work with the players he’s given. Today he had Keeper experienced championship / league one 2 centre halves from championship Right wing back won promotion from league one played plenty championship NI international defender Centre half on loan from premier league won promotion league one Promotion winner from league one wing back option on left Promotion winner centre mid League one play off centre mid Striker won promotion league one most games in championship Today he had " Maxwell in goal. Never convincing since he came, apart from a month last season. Headley - been given enough chances to show he isn't very, very poor. He IS poor. Wiles - the Wiles of the whole of last season , and this, apart from his odd goal. Was he playing tonight ? Turton - I love his attitude but nowhere near good enough, nowhere near. Danny Ward - tonight he contributed to Huddersfield Town EXACTLY what he has done for two years. A disgrace. Radulovic - attitude wrong, weedy, never a finisher in a million years, slow, feeble, totally outfought by EVERY central defended he has played against. Cartwright should have been sacked for numerous reasons - numerous - but just "Bojan" alone should be enough. Lapado - see Cartwright comments above. That's not even commenting on the ingrained spineless character shown repeatedly by over half the team. Duff is not blameless, but, goodness me, he is working with, relatively speaking, some absolute shite. Another striker won promotion from league one scoring 15+ NI international striker on loan from premier leagueMaxwell in goal. Never convincing since he came, apart from a month last season. Headley - been given enough chances to show he isn't very, very poor. He IS poor. Wiles - the Wiles of the whole of last season , and this, apart from his odd goal. Was he playing tonight ? Turton - I love his attitude but nowhere near good enough, nowhere near. Danny Ward - tonight he contributed to Huddersfield Town EXACTLY what he has done for two years. A disgrace. Radulovic - attitude wrong, weedy, never a finisher in a million years, slow, feeble, totally outfought by EVERY central defended he has played against. Cartwright should have been sacked for numerous reasons - numerous - but just "Bojan" alone should be enough. Lapado - see Cartwright comments above. That's not even commenting on the ingrained spineless character shown repeatedly by over half the team. Duff is not blameless, but, goodness me, he is working with, relatively speaking, some absolute shite.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:22:56 GMT 1
Can I have my money back on my Crawley ticket? Am I surprised about the result? Not really, knowing this team as it stands. Miller looked okay when he came on, apart from that a shitshow. Two things - Crawley are the exact opposite to how Tamworth play, and their pitch is excellent now. Agree with your other points though.
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Post by pilgrimterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:24:06 GMT 1
Every fucking time. It's always us. Always us as the fucking fall guys. Always bottleless, heartless bastards demeaning the shirt. Always someone else running hard and working hard and putting in the graft while those useless morons just let us down. Unprofessional. Unworthy of the badge on their shirt. Year after year after year of going a goal down and folding. Of one way of playing and no plan B. Of second-rate chancers picking the players for the manager. Never any excitement. Just shit day after shit day when highly-paid professionals just roll over and have their tummies tickled. We, as a club, are soft from top to bottom. Soft on the pitch and soft between the ears. No fight. No battle. Just roll over. Decision against us? Just accept it without anger. Go a goal down? That's that game lost. The slightest setback defeats us constantly and it's just embarrassing at this point. That goal should not knock the stuffing out of us the way it did. But every single one of them straight into their shells, hiding, heartless. Duff was shocking tonight. We needed to change shape and, as normal, didn't. I'm sick of modern coaches and their one-track way of playing. Mix it up, change it. Not aided by his options from the bench not having either pace or overall physicality. Thanks, Cartwright. We needed pace and a target man. We have neither because you spent the whole fucking window chasing the unattainable rather than bringing in what we actually needed. We can always hope that this acts as a kick up the backside and provokes some proper introspection and a reaction. I highly doubt it. Too many are happy to feel the wound and use it as an excuse. Tonight should fucking hurt. I don't think it does for those players tonight. They were ambling around until the dying seconds. What we saw in stoppage time should have been from minute one. Take it seriously. Leave it all out there. There's a lot of players who didn't do that. Tamworth were not good enough to beat us unless we were unprofessional. We were unprofessional on so many levels tonight. Lazy. Concentration all over the place. Every one of them should be fined their month's wages and refunds given to every fan there from the proceeds. Just also to say, I will get behind them when I see the effort and commitment, regardless of quality. I give players a chance, unlike some. When I've had my fill of this utterly useless football club, it says a lot. Absolutely spot on
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2024 23:24:43 GMT 1
That sir is a very well made point, and at the heart of our problem. We aren't mentally tough, in fact anything but. It’s not quite right though. Almost. But not quite. Ward equalised against Doncaster. Tin pot trophy and all and I know it doesn’t make it any better. And Doncaster went and scored again
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2024 23:25:35 GMT 1
They don’t have a fat substitute who can curl a ball into the top corner do they? If not, I don’t see a repeat of Accrington Stanley. So get backing Tamworth folks 😄 I did tell you all 🤦🏼♂️ How embarassing in front of a tv audience again. They have a fat starter who can curl a throw in into the top corner😜
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Post by pilgrimterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:26:58 GMT 1
Anyone else think Tamworth were a bit shit? Hate to see what a team like Halifax would have done to us Boston drew with Tamworth earlier this season, and they are in the relegation zone. How lucky am I supporting two 💩 teams?
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:27:37 GMT 1
So Kevdog what you got to say about that performance
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Nov 1, 2024 23:28:17 GMT 1
🤣🤣🤣 Cheered me right up after a shit night. Nice one!
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Post by ACW on Nov 1, 2024 23:28:37 GMT 1
We are now into November and we have yet to score an equalizer this season. 8 times now we have gone behind and we have lost every game. Something very very wrong with the mentality of the players. Or the formation is completely useless when chasing a game I agree that the formation has obvious limitations, but we also have too many players who don't offer enough often enough. That is a serious problem irrespective of the formation. We also offer nothing in the middle of the park. No movement, no combinations, no patterns of play. All our play goes down the flanks and, if that doesn't work, we have little else to offer. The fact that Pearson and Lees seem to have become our playmakers from deep doesn't help either.
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Post by savilerowtownfan on Nov 1, 2024 23:29:16 GMT 1
Our system is far too rigid. We were playing a team of part timers Tamworth were rigid because they were playing against better players. We fell to the one weapon they had 5 defenders and a holding midfielder against such poor opposition - sorry that is just very poor coaching. And what happened to leadership on the pitch ? The inability to see ‘ we are just playing into the oppositions hands’ ( literally at every corner) so let’s change it. The lack of team spirit/ lack of collective desire, the reluctance to take responsibility is so evident. The only player who once again had the desire to try impact the game was Miller.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 1, 2024 23:30:13 GMT 1
In a few years' time there will be thousands of us claiming to have been there the night that sausage roll vendor threw it in on the plastic pitch. An iconic failure. There'll be young kids there tonight telling their grandkids about this.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 1, 2024 23:30:15 GMT 1
Was there too much pressure on them???
If there is, perhaps we lower our expectations and they accept less money???
To be honest we as fans could all pay 50p a week for Radulovics wages and he can stay at home.
Pop in a quid and you can choose another one to not be picked..
Nagle may have to bite the bullet and just pay off one or two to release room for a couple of signings..
Its not about losing, its not about being disappointed in being 6th or whatever, its the fucking huge black cloud of 'doing enough' or 'under too much pressure', knowing if we go behind we lose.
Its how we lose, its watching it coming and knowing its coming and the knowledge we aint getting anything today, its just how many we lose by.
Seems to be little or no enthusiasm to start games, it grows a little if we score, but its really brittle and we can simply stop playing and fall apart.
Unbeaten in 5 but it never really comes through..🤔
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:31:01 GMT 1
As I wrote elsewhere get tge whole team onto Heroic.us. this is about being tge best you can be. It refers to sports coaches you excel and teams who succeed by pushing themselves to the limit and getting outside their comfort zone. Today town did not go beyond their basic non league comfort zone. if they want to go beyond their uninspiring comfort zone they need to change their mentality from lovers to winners. I was disgusted by tonights pathetic show. Can you give season cards away? Wasting my time watching these trying to kick a ball around
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Post by wildhogg on Nov 1, 2024 23:31:22 GMT 1
Sutton is an annoying wanker, but he had us absolutely pegged after about 10 minutes. There was a lack urgency right from the kick-off. As he pointed out, bizarrely there was even less urgency in the second-half. I didn't see any players out there who were fighting for the badge, spurring their colleagues on to avoid what was an embarrassment. I realise that Duff inherited a bunch of slackers, but he really hasn't changed that at all. This is now HIS team. If we want to stand any chance of going up (a laughable thought at this moment in time) then we need someone who can really inspire. Ironically, the system he's playing would probably work really well if the players gave a shit. The total lack of guts and determination is what's letting us down time and time again.
Radulovic. I've given him pelters since he signed and for some reason felt a little bad about it. However, what a lily-livered talent vacuum he really is. One of the most scandalous wastes of money in our history, and he has the utter temerity to sit in a press conference and say that Huddersfield is a 'boring' place. If he wants to be shown what being 'bored' really is, I'd be happy for him to be locked in a pitch-black room until he ate his own head.
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Post by runner76 on Nov 1, 2024 23:32:12 GMT 1
We’ve only ever lost two part timers twice Colchester and Tamworth I believe Accrington were full timers Think I was at the Colchester game…..
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