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Post by ldr on Nov 1, 2024 23:08:01 GMT 1
I'm a pretty positive/ glass half merchant but that has to be one of the most hapless, spineless and characterless performances I have seen in 45 years support. It's not losing matches it's how you lose and that was as inept as I can remember. Coming out of the ground I said to some Tamworth fans they deserved it, and they did. We didn't cope with the pitch, which is no excuse, and looked heartless and 2nd rate. You keep hoping that we have turned a corner/stopped the rot and then we get a pitiful effort like this. I don't boo/berate the team, and didn't tonight but I couldn't criticise anyone who did...and there were plenty. Duff looked physically shaken by the response and he and the players deserved to too. I realised a few weeks ago that turning the Town tanker around was likely to take longer than we all hoped. Nights like this show how much there is to do. Mr Nagle and his team need to take notice because although anyone can have a bad night this really shows where the club is and how much more is required. A very bad night. A night when 16/17 seems like a dream that never happened. What do you think of Duff pal? I cannot warm to him and his insistence on one style couple with a lack of a plan B worry me. It finished him at Swansea. Is he stubborn or limited? |
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Post by stevvy on Nov 1, 2024 23:08:33 GMT 1
We are now into November and we have yet to score an equalizer this season. 8 times now we have gone behind and we have lost every game. Something very very wrong with the mentality of the players. I hadn't realised. So as has been the case for the majority of the last few years, we go behind and that's it, game over, you know we've lost. |
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Post by dugnet on Nov 1, 2024 23:08:36 GMT 1
We are now into November and we have yet to score an equalizer this season. 8 times now we have gone behind and we have lost every game. Something very very wrong with the mentality of the players. That sir is a very well made point, and at the heart of our problem. We aren't mentally tough, in fact anything but. |
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Nov 1, 2024 23:08:52 GMT 1
Maxwell, Headley and Radulovic were particularly bad this evening. All three could have been booked at half time.
Kasumu has been good recently but was gash tonight. Couldn't pass to a man and lost out on most 50/50s.
I've backed Radulovic up to now, but I really worry for him at this point. He really hasn't shown anywhere near enough for a £1 million player.
We either work out how to get the best out of him or we are looking at a huge loss, and he is heading for lower league football.
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Post by Yorkie on Nov 1, 2024 23:09:21 GMT 1
Embarrassing but no more distractions now. It's all and only about the league and we simply HAVE to deliver Still got a chance to lose to a bunch of kids from Manchester in a couple of weeks |
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:09:25 GMT 1
Anyway Well done Tamworth,played to their strengths deserved it. |
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Post by specialun on Nov 1, 2024 23:09:26 GMT 1
Don’t be silly. He can only work with the players he’s given. Today he had Keeper experienced championship / league one 2 centre halves from championship Right wing back won promotion from league one played plenty championship NI international defender Centre half on loan from premier league won promotion league one Promotion winner from league one wing back option on left Promotion winner centre mid League one play off centre mid Striker won promotion league one most games in championship Another striker won promotion from league one scoring 15+ NI international striker on loan from premier league Surely he had enough for us to put up a fight against a poor non league team? |
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Post by Scott Chegg on Nov 1, 2024 23:09:45 GMT 1
Sorry, must have been me. I agree with your broader point for the record. Give me your point? My point is the same as yours. I just didn't understand your original post until you explained it. It might have been my fault. I think the team are a shower of bottlers and I think if Cartwright is spearheading our January transfer window we can write this season off. And possibly next season too if a 2 years contract for Ladapo is what we're aiming to replicate. |
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Nov 1, 2024 23:10:01 GMT 1
Absolutely seething.
Watching Tom Lees walk out of defence and stopping with the ball at his feet countless times... AGAINST TAMWORTH!
Totally clueless.
Shocking performance, we are a laughing stock.
And can someone please buy Marshall a first touch or send him back to West Ham. Unfair to single him out, but he can not control a flaming football.
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Post by shawsie on Nov 1, 2024 23:10:09 GMT 1
Beyond pitiful! Duffs in game mgmt dire. No tactics no pattern no skills shown piss poor team selection etc etc etc. Right now feel like just packing it in. Don't even feel that arsed - we are just shit Hang in there pal. Tbh, I was more looking forward to England v NZ tomorrow. Haha - am fine. Just not arsed tbh. No excuses - mgmt and players utterly appalling. Duff hasn't a clue when things need shaking up.....just repeat failure time and again. |
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Post by bluebeard on Nov 1, 2024 23:10:14 GMT 1
There's a guy now on radio Leeds who has watched Town for 70 years and he is disgusted with that performance and can't think of any worse result
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Post by BlueValour on Nov 1, 2024 23:10:36 GMT 1
7.5 minutes into added time and Maxwell rolls the ball short - sawdust between the ears!
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:11:02 GMT 1
I'm a pretty positive/ glass half merchant but that has to be one of the most hapless, spineless and characterless performances I have seen in 45 years support. It's not losing matches it's how you lose and that was as inept as I can remember. Coming out of the ground I said to some Tamworth fans they deserved it, and they did. We didn't cope with the pitch, which is no excuse, and looked heartless and 2nd rate. You keep hoping that we have turned a corner/stopped the rot and then we get a pitiful effort like this. I don't boo/berate the team, and didn't tonight but I couldn't criticise anyone who did...and there were plenty. Duff looked physically shaken by the response and he and the players deserved to too. I realised a few weeks ago that turning the Town tanker around was likely to take longer than we all hoped. Nights like this show how much there is to do. Mr Nagle and his team need to take notice because although anyone can have a bad night this really shows where the club is and how much more is required. A very bad night. A night when 16/17 seems like a dream that never happened. |
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:11:26 GMT 1
Anyway Well done Tamworth,played to their strengths deserved it. |
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Post by bradley1985 on Nov 1, 2024 23:11:49 GMT 1
We’ve only ever lost two part timers twice
Colchester and Tamworth
I believe Accrington were full timers
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Post by nearwildheaven on Nov 1, 2024 23:12:02 GMT 1
Shocks happen in the cup. Always have, always will.
I could take it (just) if we'd battered them all night long and they just defended unbelievably and had massive amounts of luck.
But that didn't happen. We were outplayed, outthought and outshithoused by a team of part timers. I lost count of the amount of times we went backwards. No guile, no game management, no strategy.
It'll be forgotten by the press in January when a big club gets knocked out in the 3rd round. But it shouldn't be forgotten by ANYONE at the club. This has to be the nadir. Change has to come from this.
I won't hold my breath.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Nov 1, 2024 23:12:24 GMT 1
We are now into November and we have yet to score an equalizer this season. 8 times now we have gone behind and we have lost every game. Something very very wrong with the mentality of the players. Or the formation is completely useless when chasing a game |
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Post by Stiggy on Nov 1, 2024 23:13:15 GMT 1
And to think there was folk on here that thought we had enough up front pre season! I’d love to dig out all the comments but frankly I CBA
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Post by town1971 on Nov 1, 2024 23:13:36 GMT 1
Disgraceful.Disgusting.Dire.
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Post by jp on Nov 1, 2024 23:14:17 GMT 1
Focus on the league now.
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Post by detox on Nov 1, 2024 23:14:19 GMT 1
I'm a pretty positive/ glass half merchant but that has to be one of the most hapless, spineless and characterless performances I have seen in 45 years support. It's not losing matches it's how you lose and that was as inept as I can remember. Coming out of the ground I said to some Tamworth fans they deserved it, and they did. We didn't cope with the pitch, which is no excuse, and looked heartless and 2nd rate. You keep hoping that we have turned a corner/stopped the rot and then we get a pitiful effort like this. I don't boo/berate the team, and didn't tonight but I couldn't criticise anyone who did...and there were plenty. Duff looked physically shaken by the response and he and the players deserved to too. I realised a few weeks ago that turning the Town tanker around was likely to take longer than we all hoped. Nights like this show how much there is to do. Mr Nagle and his team need to take notice because although anyone can have a bad night this really shows where the club is and how much more is required. A very bad night. A night when 16/17 seems like a dream that never happened. What do you think of Duff pal? I cannot warm to him and his insistence on one style couple with a lack of a plan B worry me. It finished him at Swansea. Is he stubborn or limited? Duff will blame the fans for not being supportive enough... |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 1, 2024 23:14:26 GMT 1
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:14:28 GMT 1
This club has not treated ANY cup game seriously for years and years. I warned about the Tamworth pitch when the draw was made. It was a factor but it can’t be used as an excuse. Until this losing mentality is removed we’ve got no chance.
I’ll be seeing Cambridge and then Birmingham at two middling NL clubs like Tamworth tomorrow and Sunday. Let’s see how they do.
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Nov 1, 2024 23:15:02 GMT 1
No leaders on the pitch, no leaders off the pitch. Dreadful performance, speechless.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:15:26 GMT 1
There's a guy now on radio Leeds who has watched Town for 70 years and he is disgusted with that performance and can't think of any worse result He's not far out just the Man City game then this pile of shit |
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Post by efesodje23 on Nov 1, 2024 23:15:26 GMT 1
7.5 minutes into added time and Maxwell rolls the ball short - sawdust between the ears! He rolled it out to kick long from the free kick, but he knew the ball was rolling and he wouldn't get away with it. So stopped it. Then the Tamworth player blocked a long kick, so he passed it short |
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Post by yorkterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:15:50 GMT 1
Wow, just wow. It appears that everyone associated with this club is either an absolute chancer or an absolute loser. Manager is so stubbornly stuck to his formation that he goes with the same rigid 5 defenders and DM against a fucking conference team. The useless tosser of a DOF still sits smirking in his job despite overseeing possibly the worst group of signings we have ever had. The owner apparently worth 8 billion is too tight to go out and bring in a proper striker so we end up signing Ladapo who is one of the worst strikers I have ever seen in a town shirt. In this division he could have overhauled the team and given us the same impetus that Birmingham have but instead we are stuck watching Danny Fucking Ward and Ben Wiles embarrass the badge on national television. I am so livid right now that it's beyond a joke. Every single last one if those associated with this shit show should give their fucking heads a shake. The manager can fuck off aswell. What a shit boring negative useless ineffective formation he is persisting with. Fuck off and then keep fucking off until we can't see you Duff. Tossers. I feel slightly better reading that mate, write some more please....... |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Nov 1, 2024 23:16:46 GMT 1
An opponent with just one weapon, a long throw. We didn't have a clue how to deal with it.
Pathetic....
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Post by rubicon on Nov 1, 2024 23:17:13 GMT 1
Every fucking time. It's always us. Always us as the fucking fall guys. Always bottleless, heartless bastards demeaning the shirt. Always someone else running hard and working hard and putting in the graft while those useless morons just let us down. Unprofessional. Unworthy of the badge on their shirt. Year after year after year of going a goal down and folding. Of one way of playing and no plan B. Of second-rate chancers picking the players for the manager. Never any excitement. Just shit day after shit day when highly-paid professionals just roll over and have their tummies tickled. We, as a club, are soft from top to bottom. Soft on the pitch and soft between the ears. No fight. No battle. Just roll over. Decision against us? Just accept it without anger. Go a goal down? That's that game lost. The slightest setback defeats us constantly and it's just embarrassing at this point. That goal should not knock the stuffing out of us the way it did. But every single one of them straight into their shells, hiding, heartless. Duff was shocking tonight. We needed to change shape and, as normal, didn't. I'm sick of modern coaches and their one-track way of playing. Mix it up, change it. Not aided by his options from the bench not having either pace or overall physicality. Thanks, Cartwright. We needed pace and a target man. We have neither because you spent the whole fucking window chasing the unattainable rather than bringing in what we actually needed. We can always hope that this acts as a kick up the backside and provokes some proper introspection and a reaction. I highly doubt it. Too many are happy to feel the wound and use it as an excuse. Tonight should fucking hurt. I don't think it does for those players tonight. They were ambling around until the dying seconds. What we saw in stoppage time should have been from minute one. Take it seriously. Leave it all out there. There's a lot of players who didn't do that. Tamworth were not good enough to beat us unless we were unprofessional. We were unprofessional on so many levels tonight. Lazy. Concentration all over the place. Every one of them should be fined their month's wages and refunds given to every fan there from the proceeds. Just also to say, I will get behind them when I see the effort and commitment, regardless of quality. I give players a chance, unlike some. When I've had my fill of this utterly useless football club, it says a lot. I think it may always have been, just depends on the level. When we won three in a row, it was the smallest goal average ever for one of them, and Cardiff threw it away on the last match if I'm remembering correctly. Then two seasons as runners up, one of which we only won one of the last 6 games. Lost to Blackburn in the cup in one of those seasons 3-1 when they were a close to relegation team. Throughout the whole 1960s we used to get to easter, then blow any chance of promotion, same under Bruce at the turn of the century, well you get the idea. I'm actually surprised I've seen us twice in the top tier of English football, even if only for two seasons both times. It's Town, the way they are, and always have been. Yes I know, all teams fuck things up sometimes, but if they've got that quality, they bounce back and stay back, at least for far longer than Town. We just don't seem to make the effort, or buy crap, and miss out on quality, like when Shankly wanted to buy a couple of players. Anyway, tonight was truly the bottom of the barrel, back to the wine, no more comments from me. |
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Post by pterrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:18:20 GMT 1
No more days off now. It has concerned me all season that the players aren’t in the day after a match for a debrief and rehabilitation like nearly all pro clubs do these days. The fact we make it ‘optional’ because our manager is down in Cheltenham needs addressing. You ever wonder why we never adapt shape, formation or set piece routines? Why we never have a plan b or a discernible pattern of play? It’s because the training isn’t good enough and with this set of players it can’t be like that. Once you’ve experienced what good looks like under Wagner and corberan in recent times, this type of management and approach sticks out like a sore thumb.
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