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Post by ae89 on Jul 5, 2010 8:18:57 GMT 1
Hey Guys just a quick question. Apparently we are in talks with Man Ure to bring in Danny Drinkwater on a 1 year loan , what kind of midfielder is he?? defensive minded , forward thinking , tough tackler?
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Post by terrierpark on Jul 5, 2010 8:46:13 GMT 1
DD is a good passer of the ball and although he can get stuck in at times you wouldnt class him as a ball winner. He would probably fair better in the championship thn L1 because it took him a long time to adjust/ get finger out to the rigours of L1. Once he had he turned in quite a few MOM performances but dont expect miracles because the name on the label just happens to be manure and he should do ok.
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Post by keepmoving on Jul 5, 2010 8:51:34 GMT 1
I think the words 'headless chicken', 'lightweight' and 'can't tackle for toffee' spring to mind.
He's ok, but don't plan a promotion party around him.
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Post by samhudds on Jul 5, 2010 8:59:00 GMT 1
Personally I think he'll thrive in the Championship, I can't understand the stick he gets sometimes, would love him back here! Great passer of the ball, can get stuck in, defiantly a more forward minded player though.
Agreed it took him quite a few months to get settled in, but the second half of the season he was easily, with Peltier our most consistent performer. Would be a very good signing IMO.
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Post by AndySk on Jul 5, 2010 9:01:30 GMT 1
Thought he was one of our better, more consistent players in the 2nd half of the season, very comfortable on the ball. Looks like he'll play a lot better with better players around him so think you could have a good signing there for the year.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 5, 2010 9:08:39 GMT 1
If he starts the season as he ended it - you'll be ok.
Trouble was for us, he didn't start performing until February and if you're prepared to forego the first 5 months then he'll be alright.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 5, 2010 9:16:00 GMT 1
I think the words 'headless chicken', 'lightweight' and 'can't tackle for toffee' spring to mind. He's ok, but don't plan a promotion party around him. :stupid: |
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Post by rage_of_ed on Jul 5, 2010 9:29:56 GMT 1
I think the words 'headless chicken', 'lightweight' and 'can't tackle for toffee' spring to mind. He's ok, but don't plan a promotion party around him. Just out of interest, did we watch the same club last year? If you're doing the old 'yes means no' routine where everything you say is actually diametrically opposed to what Danny Drinkwater is actually like then, yes, I suppose you are totally right. |
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Post by Floyds on Jul 5, 2010 9:38:13 GMT 1
Over the season as a whole i would say he did "ok". He was poor until post Christmas, then had some decent games against the lesser sides, but didn't influence the playoffs in anyway at all. Obviously not helped by his midfield partner, but CM was where (IMO) the games was lost.
In answer to the original question, he is decent on the ball and tidy in possession, a good passer. He would benefit from having someone strong next to him, tackling isn't really his forte. He doesnt drive forward and create/score goals that much either.
Probably be a decent enough player in the Championship but can't see him standing out, despite the "he will get more time" argument (will he not be playing against better players as well?).
I wouldn't want him back as first choice in CM for us though, think Millwall showed us what we need to be a success in this league, and glad that Clark has attempted to address this with the signings already made and promise of another CM to come.
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Post by maradona on Jul 5, 2010 9:40:48 GMT 1
He was decent in league one, so going by the logic of some of this board, he should thrive in league one :iconlol:
While your at it, we've got two other players who should also thrive in league one, Michael Collins and James Berrett. If you're quick, you might still get them before they leave. We'll do you a deal of those 2 in exchange for a Twix and a Bounty (party pack size obviously)
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Post by anthillmobber on Jul 5, 2010 9:49:22 GMT 1
I think the words 'headless chicken', 'lightweight' and 'can't tackle for toffee' spring to mind. He's ok, but don't plan a promotion party around him. Just out of interest, did we watch the same club last year? If you're doing the old 'yes means no' routine where everything you say is actually diametrically opposed to what Danny Drinkwater is actually like then, yes, I suppose you are totally right. So you want Cardiff to begin planning their promotion party on the basis that Danny Drinkwater is an arseless chicken, heavyweight who tackles for toffees?! |
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Post by rage_of_ed on Jul 5, 2010 10:01:48 GMT 1
I was going more for diametrically opposed meaning rather than the literal interpretation but sure, why not?   Either way, to label Drinkwater as someone who can't tackle seems bizarre in the extreme to me. |
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Post by anthillmobber on Jul 5, 2010 10:05:41 GMT 1
I was going more for diametrically opposed meaning rather than the literal interpretation but sure, why not? Either way, to label Drinkwater as someone who can't tackle seems bizarre in the extreme to me. Agreed :vuvu: |
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Post by ae89 on Jul 5, 2010 10:25:47 GMT 1
We are in for a tough season I believe! The only players we look like we are going to bring in are loans and free agents... Strong rumours that Hamman wants to come back on board , we owe Sunderland £1.5 Mill Charlton half a Mill & thats just the start of it!, complete mess! If only we had beaten Blackpool in May! ...
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Post by Admin on Jul 5, 2010 10:29:15 GMT 1
Very good player, showed his class towards the end of the year when he was comfortably our best player. Some on here had already given up on him due to his performances earlier in the year when injured/new to league one football. If he goes to Cardiff I'm sure he will do fantastic there. 2 good feet, quick, can get forward and back and gets stuck in. I think he'll flourish at that level...
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Post by fredcarno on Jul 5, 2010 11:57:04 GMT 1
I liked the lad plenty of ability and will only get bigger / stronger. Will probably benefit from playing with better players who will make better runs and be more in tune with him. Think we have gone for a bit more steel and experience with Gudjonsen. I could have seen Clark trying to sign him again if we had gone up last year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2010 12:12:33 GMT 1
As you might expect Danny came to Huddersfield Town schooled in the right footballing way, he always looked to pass the ball and build play. He soon realised life in League One was going to be different to what he'd been used to, even in Man Utd reserves and it wasn't until our players got used to Danny and his neat 'pass and move' football that he and they started to gel together. This took several games but basically the lad just got better and better. Towards the end of the season he was my 'man of the match' more often than not and I'm sorry he hasn't returned on a further loan or even permanently. I think he'll thrive in the Championship! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2010 12:24:54 GMT 1
Can spray a pass, tries to mix it up but a bit lightweight compared to other League One centre mids.
With better players (particularly a better midfield partner) around him, he may flourish as he has good technique.
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Post by jimmynich on Jul 5, 2010 12:50:12 GMT 1
Average
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Post by AndySk on Jul 5, 2010 13:16:57 GMT 1
Can spray a pass, tries to mix it up but a bit lightweight compared to other League One centre mids. Just not our Centre Mids last year |
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Post by ritchie on Jul 5, 2010 13:21:09 GMT 1
I really rated him, took a while to get to grips but was a class act in many of our 2nd half of the season fixtures. with more time on the ball he could do very well.
would need a nasty bastard next to him to shine.
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Post by stevehardwick on Jul 5, 2010 13:23:49 GMT 1
Went missing a good few times against the better sides. Yet looked quality in terms of passing etc against lower teams. Would probably be better with higher class of partner in CM and around him. Good luck to him! For me he tried 100% but wasn't quite good enough.
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Post by stellify on Jul 5, 2010 13:56:27 GMT 1
Too many on here over-rated him. Was very good when he was given space and time on the ball to spread passes about, but look out of his depth when someone was closing him down. Too many sideways balls and what pi**ed me off was these ball were behind the full backs.
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Post by paulhudd28 on Jul 5, 2010 15:23:05 GMT 1
dd is too good for league 1.simple as.
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Post by Floyds on Jul 5, 2010 15:31:01 GMT 1
"Two good for League One" makes it sound as though he was head and shoulders above his team mates and opposition week in week out.
Not sure what Trotter and Abdou would say about that remark, having bossed our CM over the two play off semi final legs. But he was decent enough, and better than Kay and Collins.
Hopefully our midfield pairing will be an improvement next season, that we will need if we are to seriously challenge for automatic promotion.
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Post by Richard1986 on Jul 5, 2010 16:18:49 GMT 1
Hey Guys just a quick question. Apparently we are in talks with Man Ure to bring in Danny Drinkwater on a 1 year loan , what kind of midfielder is he?? defensive minded , forward thinking , tough tackler? Just plays in the middle innit |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jul 6, 2010 7:52:44 GMT 1
Feel the need to weigh in.
DD took a bit of time to find his feet. This would be due to both injury, and the fact that this was his frist spell of competitive professional football, so he should be forgiven for that.
Despite being diminutive in stature, he never bottles a tackle. He has a good first touch, and is able to be the link man in midfield. He'll cme short for the ball, and he knows where he's going to play it before he's been given it. He has a great awareness of where those around him are, and if you want to play one-touch possesion football he will do a job for you. Put it this way, he was playing in midfield alongside Anthony Kay, who was meant to be our midfield general, but ended up being generally poor.
A good signing, and I;d love to see him back, especially now we've signed Joey G...
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Post by patman on Jul 6, 2010 9:05:37 GMT 1
can Cardiff sign him with a transfer embargo on them?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 10:18:18 GMT 1
I wish him well in The Championship where hopefully he will get a bit more time and space to do his thing... because, contrary to what some would have you believe, he certainly was nowhere near dominant enough for League One.
He has been cut an unbelievable amount of slack by many on here because he's from Man U and supposedly too cultured for our level. Pity the same amount of slack couldn't have been given to our very own Michael Collins. When Danny went missing we blamed it on the lack of a decent midfield partner... when Michael went missing we simply called him useless.
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Post by ritchie on Jul 6, 2010 10:53:52 GMT 1
I wish him well in The Championship where hopefully he will get a bit more time and space to do his thing... because, contrary to what some would have you believe, he certainly was nowhere near dominant enough for League One. He has been cut an unbelievable amount of slack by many on here because he's from Man U and supposedly too cultured for our level. Pity the same amount of slack couldn't have been given to our very own Michael Collins. When Danny went missing we blamed it on the lack of a decent midfield partner... when Michael went missing we simply called him useless. personally think that is crap about being cut slack because he was from man u, it was simple, he was much better than collins last season. can you name a game that collins played well? im sure there are a few but non have stuck in my head, maybe wycombe. I actually quite rate aspects of collins game and realise what he brings, but he had a terrible season. if he was cut slack it was because on his day he was one of the best central midfielders we have seen in a long time (not much competition). collins loses instantly for me because of his inability to even tackle, for me both your CM's should be able to tackle.. drinkwater wasnt a brute but he had a bit of bite and got stuck in. next to a combative midfielder he would do well, where as collins still wouldn't do well enough because you cant have just one CM who tackles, he will eventually get overrun. he might have gone missing in a few games, but there were plenty of games towards the end of the season where he was brilliant. he is far from the finished article and maybe some did overrate him, but thats probably because people could see the difference in quality from recent midfielders (whether he fully used it yet or not). I would bet my house on drinkwater having a much more succesful career than collins, starting next season if they are both in the championship. |
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