Examiner banned!

[thrice]

Aug 31, 2010 20:02:18 GMT 1 thewrongboy said:

So, I know we all get a bit distracted on here but... back to the issue.

IS THE EXAMINER BANNED? If so, from what exactly?

What have the Examiner's journalists done wrong?

It's all a little ambiguous.

It may be worth remembering that the local newspaper has a duty to its readership to report balanced and fairly. If its local football team is doing something that deserves criticism (see Southampton and its banning of photgraphers) then it should be reported.

It's not supposed to be a swooning fanzine for the local professional football team and its staff.

That was part of the problem, let us not forget, with the Examiner's approach to the whole Davy and the club's shares situation.

That aside: Well done SMJ for coming on here.

But seriously, what are the facts?

By the sounds of things, and smj has been refreshingly transparent once again, it has nothing to do with the way that the Examiner have been reporting or last weeks Clarkrantgate. Rather it is as a result of the change in the nature of the relationship between the club & Examiner.

I would summise that the Examiner feel that they have the right to exclusivity to town player interviws etc but the club now expect them to cough up for the privilege like anyone else in the media would be expected to.

Lets hope that they can kiss & make up and agree something going forward acceptable to both parties. There are plenty of folk who get their only dose of town news & info via the Examiner afterall.

[Davey Monroe]

Aug 31, 2010 20:10:12 GMT 1 @melthamnut said:

How will I notice dougie thompson hasn't been to the game???

No matter what 'Dynamo, Dangerous Dougie Thompson writes (though I still haven't forgiven him for his "churlish" comment with regards to Town fans booing uncle Ken during his cringe-worthy speech on the pitch during his 'hand over' to Deano) It surely can't be worse than the B.B.C's horrendous report on the Charlron game, where they created a fictional penalty!!!!!

[funkymagic]

Aug 31, 2010 20:29:01 GMT 1 terrierng said:

Aug 31, 2010 20:07:26 GMT 1 smj1 said:

The Wrongboy - not sure how to copy and paste

But the simple answer is the Examiner is NOT banned and we encourage balanced reporting - simple.

lol now i am no computer genius but how the hell have you got so far in this day and age not being able to copy and paste ;D

It's a well known fact that Sean dictates all his letters / faxes / emails and that kid from the academy with the crazy hair types them up for him.

I think he may have left, haven't noticed him ball-boying for a good while? Hence the decline in typographical standards I assume.

The Real Terry the Terrier took the role in a temporary capacity, but his paws were too big, he kept making mistakes and just had to be let go.

[Captainslapper]

Aug 31, 2010 18:44:10 GMT 1 @donniebrasco said:

Aug 31, 2010 18:41:19 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

depends what you've fallen out about sean. If its because the 'special relationship' is that they can only write ( and radio Leeds can only say) positive stuff about the club then that can't be right surely?
The danger is the club will look very precious, like the manager did in his slightly embarressing post match interview the other day.

That's only your opinion though Slaps, opinion was pretty divided on Clarks post match comments. Many including myself saw nothing wrong with it. You have an unhealthy habbit of thinking your opinion is the right one and the only one that matters

what are you on about? Its obviously just my opinion- do i have to write IMO at the end of every sentence? And do other posters, yourself included, write their opinions but DON"T think their the right ones?
This is what I think, bit I don't think Im right

[Captainslapper]

Aug 31, 2010 18:47:58 GMT 1 smj1 said:

Firstly epsomterrier 33 - it was a pleasure meeting you at the Patrons do - and exactly - improved communication

Captain slapper - as I said - we appreciate balanced reporting - no 'gags' are imposed.

thats good to hear.
But now Ive no idea what this thread is even about! :celebrate:

[thewrongboy]

Without trying to get into sycophancy here: thanks to SMJ once more.

SMJ said, "we encourage balanced reporting - simple".

And why not? Can't arugue with that. Is that what this is about then? The Examiner has published something not seen to be balanced?

I can see why that would push some noses out of joint.

Unfortunately for football clubs, however, newspapers have to report on things they deem will sell copies. What a media organisation might find balanced - someone else will undoubtedly not.

For a high profile example, have a look at why (Sir) Alex Ferguson hasn't spoken to the BBC in quite some time (and why he gets fined for that).

Football teams, or any other business in the spotlight touting for the public's money, for that matter, have to expect that local or non local media organisations will talk about them in a way that they might not find palatable.

It's not always nice to be on the receiving end - but it comes with the territory, right?

[thrice]

Aug 31, 2010 20:58:45 GMT 1 thewrongboy said:

Without trying to get into sycophancy here: thanks to SMJ once more.

SMJ said, "we encourage balanced reporting - simple".

And why not? Can't arugue with that. Is that what this is about then? The Examiner has published something not seen to be balanced?

I can see why that would push some noses out of joint.

Unfortunately for football clubs, however, newspapers have to report on things they deem will sell copies. What a media organisation might find balanced - someone else will undoubtedly not.

For a high profile example, have a look at why (Sir) Alex Ferguson hasn't spoken to the BBC in quite some time (and why he gets fined for that).

Football teams, or any other business in the spotlight touting for the public's money, for that matter, have to expect that local or non local media organisations will talk about them in a way that they might not find palatable.

It's not always nice to be on the receiving end - but it comes with the territory, right?

It is not about their reporting fella.

See the post at the top of this page.

[sunflower]

It's quite funny that most of the time th'examiner is getting slated on here, but now some are defending it. Myself, I see it as a pile of shite owned by the Mirror group (another pile of shite). Will never buy it ever again, and as for the town reporting, we all know that's a fukin joke. After careful consideration, I think the club should ban them, not cos I'm in favour of a Ken Bates style Censorship and dictatorship, but because Mel Booth and Doug Thompson and the rest of em haven't a fukin clue and give the media a bad name in this town.

[thewrongboy]

Hi Thrice, I read it... I'm just not sure a club like Huddersfield Town would start charging media companies to interview players. At the end of the day any publicity for Huddersfield Town be it on radio, TV or in the Examiner is an advertisement for the club. A free one at that.

At least that's how I'd see it. I'm quite prepared to be totally wrong.

[thrice]

I'd tend to agree wrongboy but that is what we seem to now want to do.

Aug 31, 2010 17:32:19 GMT 1 stevvy said:

Just got this from SJ (who's fine with me posting this here):

There seems to be a lot of rumours flying around at the moment on all matters!

However just to put the record straight and from the 'horses mouth' - the Examiner enjoy EXACTLY the same rights as every other media that come to our games.

We as a club are trying to become increasingly proffessional in our approach and control the flow of information that comes from the club. It is apparent in the past it may be the case that some of the media may have got away with the likes of 'picking up interviews' without the clubs consent or knowledge.

If the Examiner would like to obtain special priveledges i.e some sort of exclusivity then surely they should be paying for them or returning the favour to the club? Afterall our interest is about Huddersfield Town moving forward as an organisation and of course up the football hierachy.

The door always remains open for the Examiner to talk to us if they think they have an issue.

Kind regards

Sean

[Deleted]

Don't even print it in yorkshire do they ? Never mind Huddersfield ! Fuck em

[thewrongboy]

"Don't even print it in yorkshire do they?"

They do indeed print it in Oldham... few people lost their jobs in Huddersfield when it changed... the staff at the Examiner, I hear, where as disappointed as anyone. It was a Trinity Mirror group decision.

[Deleted]

i find it a good read and grab one whenever i m in kirklees.dangerous ground trying to influence/channel information.it belongs to us all.hope town and the examiner can work out their differences,we need each other.top,top stuff sean posting :appl: could ve done with hiim on here the last two week ::

[shawsie]

This is a difficult one for all parties.
Personally, whilst i have admiration for the job mel and doug do, i think the close personal link between the club and the paper went when they moved the printing and back office functions away from the town and that has had an impact on fans opinions.
That said, the club do need a local mouthpiece and whilst the website and radio coverage has improved there is still a value in what the examiner provides many supporters who dont have access to web or indeed local radio.
Damned if you do and damned if you dont on this one but fair play to SMJ for making the position clear to all and not subject to hearsay and false rumour.
Hopefully all will be resolved to everyones satisfaction soon.

[ctt]

If the shit did hit the fan again, this board could probably mobilise a more useful group of supporters to try and help the club than the bovine masses who buy the Unexamined...

[anthillmobber]

Jesus Christ, there's some right pricks who post on here.

[digwon]

Aug 31, 2010 23:12:25 GMT 1 @anthillmobber said:

Jesus Christ, there's some right pricks who post on here.

this is the only post i understand on this thread

[terrier19]

Aug 31, 2010 23:12:25 GMT 1 @anthillmobber said:

Jesus Christ, there's some right pricks who post on here.

At last some sense in this thread!

I do find it funny how much people are bothered by the new mascot! FFS its some bloke dressed up in a costume.

[Richard Adonis]

I knock about with some people from the Examiner... and people do post some crap on here... the only one who has a viable, intelligent comment on this thread is the wrong boy..
I can tell you this... the people at the top of the Examiner / Local rag / pile of shite as you call it.. regually post valued comments on this board.. dont get information from it to print (duhhhhh) and attend most matches , home and away out of their own pockets and have done for 30 years, as they are town fans.... amazing that because they have no face or in a position to have a valid argument on an open forum .. some people have the audacity to slag them off...

[andyeastleake]

Aug 31, 2010 19:18:06 GMT 1 andyeastleake said:

Query for SMJ1

When our club sorry business nearly ceased to exist in the early part of the 21st century, did they pay the Examiner for all the publicity they gave to the fund raising efforts?

Given that SMJ1 chose to send a PM rather than continue this debate on the open forum suggests the answer to my question was No.

Whilst SMJ1 (quite rightly) receives praise for addressing supporters customer queries on here, he appears once again to prefer replying to those posters offering only praise.

PS For those interested, the PM didn't add anything on the topic.

[smj1]

Eh? The pm was intended to invite you to come and have a chat about club and "business" that's all.
I got the impression you felt we were tipping the balance the wrong way? To go into it in great detail could take me hours with my typing!
Door's open

[anthillmobber]

Sean, you'd get more sense out of a wounded wildebeest than some of the people on post on here.

It's the same sort of people who would complain about the shape of the pies.

[SaleTerrier]

Aug 31, 2010 19:49:03 GMT 1 smj1 said:

spellung was nevor my biggust strength!!!

You're my hero ::

[keepmoving]

I think we all need to wind our necks in a bit. Lets find out the 'REAL' facts as opposed to the 'DATM Facts' before we go off on one.

[maradona]

Sept 1, 2010 10:41:20 GMT 1 SaleTerrier said:

Aug 31, 2010 19:49:03 GMT 1 smj1 said:

spellung was nevor my biggust strength!!!

You're my hero

For a gag that was old even before the internet was invented?

[bigtruck]

some of the people on here are getting ridiculous now. Someone comes on and says the Examiner is banned for criticising LC. They then start saying who does LC think he is. Uproar starts to develop. SMJ comes on and says actually no Examiner isn't banned trying to bring everything into line and be professional. And then theres 2 more pages of people saying Examiner is banned SMJ lies etc etc. How many other clubs would let anyone from the board come onto a fans forum? Hoyle, Clibbens and Jarvis must feel like their banging their hands against a brick wall with some of the shit that gets put on here. This is the most transparent and professionally run i have seen the club in years and yet some still come up with crap to complain about...

[keepmoving]

Sept 1, 2010 11:29:47 GMT 1 bigtruck said:

some of the people on here are getting ridiculous now. Someone comes on and says the Examiner is banned for criticising LC. They then start saying who does LC think he is. Uproar starts to develop. SMJ comes on and says actually no Examiner isn't banned trying to bring everything into line and be professional. And then theres 2 more pages of people saying Examiner is banned SMJ lies etc etc. How many other clubs would let anyone from the board come onto a fans forum? Hoyle, Clibbens and Jarvis must feel like their banging their hands against a brick wall with some of the shit that gets put on here. This is the most transparent and professionally run i have seen the club in years and yet some still come up with crap to complain about...

:appl:

Give that person a positive someone....

[thewrongboy]

So, back to the facts.

What if anything has happened to the Examiner and HTAFC?

I, as a supporter of Huddersfield Town, and someone who appreciates the role that local media can play in a community would be keen to have a clear answer without any ambiguity.

Or is this unlikely?

[anthillmobber]

Sept 1, 2010 11:43:19 GMT 1 thewrongboy said:

So, back to the facts.

What if anything has happened to the Examiner and HTAFC?

I, as a supporter of Huddersfield Town, and someone who appreciates the role that local media can play in a community would be keen to have a clear answer without any ambiguity.

Or is this unlikely?

I'd like to shit in your breakfast.

[funkymagic]

Sept 1, 2010 10:25:46 GMT 1 @anthillmobber said:

It's the same sort of people who would complain about the shape of the pies.

You say that, and yet at the Tranmere game I had the most bizarre encounter I've EVER had at a football match.

I'm still in shock now.

We (me and 10 year old) had been out in the morning and went straight to the game via the pub, and hadn't had anything to eat. I was ok, knowing I was only 3 or 4 hours away from a visit to the Spicy Kitchen, however 10 year old was 'hungry', so rather than have him moan about being starving I asked what he wanted, as we marched up to the concession stand in the FM Upper, at 2:50pm, with NO QUEUE (which I found amazing in itself - although I haven't really looked for a couple of years!).

He looks at the shelf thing and says, "Cornish Pasty" - me looks up above the stand, sees the price of a "Cornish Pasty", gets out the exact change, and says, "A Cornish Pasty please".

THE FOLLOWING IS MY HONEST RECOLLECTION of the conversation which followed:-

The response to which was "A what?".

Me thinks, maybe its a bit noisy, so I reply, "A Cornish Pasty please"...just a little bit louder.

"A what?"

"A Cornish Pasty?" - verging on shouting.

"A C-o-r-n-i-s-h Pasty? Erm...we don't have any". (with Cornish said like it's a word I've just made up!)

"What about those there?" - pointing.

She reaches into the counter, picks up a Cornish Pasty, and looks at me straight faced and says, "What's a Cornish Pasty?"

I point at it, incredulous, "Can I have THAT please".

She starts talking to a man next to her, "He wants a C-o-r-n-i-s-h Pasty...do we sell them?".

Man shrugs, mentions something to her about pies that I can't quite catch.

"We're out of Cheese & Onion Pies, we've got Meat ones?"

"Can I just have that Pasty you're holding please?".

"Oh, that's a Cornish Pasty is it?"

I didn't get a drink for him to wash it down with, as 10 year old would probably have wet himself, he was barely keeping it together without laughing as it was.

The first 20 minutes of the game pretty much washed over me...I was confused.