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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 12:13:03 GMT 1
Yet probably the most consistent player last season? said it before and will say it again – he stood out purely because everyone else was so inconsistent. He was scoring consistent 6s and 7s out of ten (with the odd 8) when others were 5/6 at best. In terms of ability (note: not delivery) Norwood is a better player, in my opinion. If we sell Clayts, get in a ball winner in the middle to do the job Hogg has shown he can’t, maybe Norwood and Majewski are the creative pairing in the middle, with the young’uns coming through as back-up/development. I guess my point is we’ll never know how we’ll cope without him until we have to. When Rhodes and Pilks went, we then coped at a higher level. Some faith, please. Clayton was made to look far better than what he is because everybody playing around him were crap especially the defence .
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Post by ColchTerrier on Aug 5, 2014 12:14:48 GMT 1
Time for Norwood to step up!
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Post by upthetown on Aug 5, 2014 12:15:29 GMT 1
What is everyone panicking about - we have Norwood and Gobern. Relax you sillies! Might be in a minority but I really rate Gobern. Just needs an injury free season. Always makes time when on the ball, looks for a forward pass. He's not a big, aggressive player, despite his size. He's a good playmaker.
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Post by H7 on Aug 5, 2014 12:18:58 GMT 1
if clayton is sold today (3 days before the season starts) it would be extremely difficult to have any sort of optimism going into this season ... our squad will arguably be weaker than what we ended with last season. Our player of the season potentially sold. Our best player injured. Doesn't make good reading, and I'm an optimist when it comes to Town. As am I which is all the more worrying
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Post by Guthlac on Aug 5, 2014 12:19:50 GMT 1
What is everyone panicking about - we have Norwood and Gobern. Relax you sillies! Might be in a minority but I really rate Gobern. Just needs an injury free season. Always makes time when on the ball, looks for a forward pass. He's not a big, aggressive player, despite his size. He's a good playmaker. He played ok, now and again - but he won't help us get in the Prem.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:20:34 GMT 1
Future will be resolved in the next 24Hrs. Brighton have apparently met Deanos valuation, as an honorable man, he has let Clayton talk to them. Same situation as Rhodes, Hunt, Pilks, Pelts before him. I cant see us able to match wages they will offer for a 2 million pound player, so looks like a done deal. How long before the quoted one repeats another Nixon tweet confirming the unexaminer story saying Boro could well be back in the frame lol Information is information, You cant just make it up, Just because someone else publishes it first doesn't mean its copied. Who copies who at 10pm each evening? do the bbc copy itv? or Itv copy the bbc... and where do sky news come into it? Hardly something new that Middlesborough are back in the running, they were never out of it, but hoped to play the long game and get him at a decent price. The confirmed Brighton interest has forced their hand. There is a rumour that Notts Forest are making a late play, as they are desperately looking for midfield recruits. I think the outcome of this is that he is leaving and we are doing something we haven't done before and starting an auction, because the ££££ offered isn't quite there. Its designed to force the hand of the interested parties. Its obviously gathering pace, so will come to a quick resolution, probably by tomorrow evening at the latest.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Aug 5, 2014 12:21:42 GMT 1
I've always thought Norwood and Clayton were very similar players. It's just playing them together in an already lightweight midfield wasn't the best idea. As others have said, Norwood is probably the more naturally talented player and has a lot of potential. Selling Clayton and letting Norwood do his job (if he stepped up) might see us better off, especially if the money from the sale is used wisely.
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Post by upthetown on Aug 5, 2014 12:23:23 GMT 1
I've always thought Norwood and Clayton were very similar players. It's just playing them together in an already lightweight midfield wasn't the best idea. As others have said, Norwood is probably the more naturally talented player and has a lot of potential. Selling Clayton and letting Norwood do his job (if he stepped up) might see us better off, especially if the money from the sale is used wisely. Not sure about Norwood been the better player. Clayton probably outperformed Norwood 90% of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:23:29 GMT 1
How long before the quoted one repeats another Nixon tweet confirming the unexaminer story saying Boro could well be back in the frame lol Information is information, You cant just make it up, Just because someone else publishes it first doesn't mean its copied. Who copies who at 10pm each evening? do the bbc copy itv? or Itv copy the bbc... and where do sky news come into it? Hardly something new that Middlesborough are back in the running, they were never out of it, but hoped to play the long game and get him at a decent price. The confirmed Brighton interest has forced their hand. There is a rumour that Notts Forest are making a late play, as they are desperately looking for midfield recruits. I think the outcome of this is that he is leaving and we are doing something we haven't done before and starting an auction, because the ££££ offered isn't quite there. Its designed to force the hand of the interested parties. Its obviously gathering pace, so will come to a quick resolution, probably by tomorrow evening at the latest. Nothing wrong with passing on Nixons tweets as long as you give him credit!
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Post by Tez on Aug 5, 2014 12:24:26 GMT 1
Clayton NOT to play tonight then Lopez?
FWIW if the money is decent day £2mill then let him go and we can invest it into a CB and CF. Still need those positions filled
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 5, 2014 12:28:07 GMT 1
How long before the quoted one repeats another Nixon tweet confirming the unexaminer story saying Boro could well be back in the frame lol Information is information, You cant just make it up, Just because someone else publishes it first doesn't mean its copied. Who copies who at 10pm each evening? do the bbc copy itv? or Itv copy the bbc... and where do sky news come into it? Hardly something new that Middlesborough are back in the running, they were never out of it, but hoped to play the long game and get him at a decent price. The confirmed Brighton interest has forced their hand. There is a rumour that Notts Forest are making a late play, as they are desperately looking for midfield recruits. I think the outcome of this is that he is leaving and we are doing something we haven't done before and starting an auction, because the ££££ offered isn't quite there. Its designed to force the hand of the interested parties. Its obviously gathering pace, so will come to a quick resolution, probably by tomorrow evening at the latest. Do you copy and edit, or just cut and paste Nixon's tweets Edit - Also in your earlier copied post you said that Brighton had met our valuation but yet you now say that its not quite there it seems it's the meat that you put onto the bones of a Nixon tweet that make you look such a fool and having to backtrack.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 5, 2014 12:28:26 GMT 1
Don't rate him. Too slow,gets caught in possession,doesn't score many goals,not a dead ball specialist.....£2m? Take it quick and reinvest it and the team will be much stronger. IMO. Yet probably the most consistent player last season? Is that supposed to be something to shout about, being the best of a bad bunch ? Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by upthetown on Aug 5, 2014 12:29:00 GMT 1
Just a shame that pre-season is all but finished, and sny replacement/s won't have any time to bed in, get used to their teammates or our tactics.
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Post by dugnet on Aug 5, 2014 12:29:15 GMT 1
I guess my concern here is that how can we ever build any sort of a team that can challenge when we sell our best player every 12-18 months. In the long term would we potentially gain more (primarily financially) if we keep Clayton? To be fair to the club if the situation has got to a stage where by we can't compete financially and the player wants/is advised to leave then we have little choice but I this doesn't look like a Jordan Rhodes situation (where he wanted to go). There's a lot of work to be done at 1st team level if Clayton stays, if he goes there's a HELL of a lot of work to do! I'm sure at Millbridge Deano mentioned that they wanted to extend Lynch and Clayton, Lynch has since signed that extension and Clayton hasn't. There's not a lot the club can do if the better players choose not to extend their contracts here. Would you prefer we keep players like Rhodes by matching 40k a week in wages that the club simply cannot afford that is why the academy and scouting need to keep producing finding players that we can sell on. We are about building a club rather than building around individual assets on the playing side. If we can achieve that production line then we will be fine. Until we get to a stage where the playing field is more even or we are better placed to make an assault on the upper part of the table. I understand and largely support those aims but, where we are now, and I mean NOW, keeping Clayton would be preferable - but I do understand the economics and wouldn't want Dean to put the club in a difficult/more unsustainable position. I guess my concern comes from the fact that Clayton is our most consistent performer and if we could add some steel, leadership and belief around him the team would be looking up. I also think, and this is my own personal view, that I have actually lost a lot of faith in Robins as a manager. There were too many woeful performances after Xmas which have left me severely doubting his motivational skills (I actually think he is probably a decent technical coach) and I wonder if this is one of the reasons we haven't changed things much in the close season. I want to feel positive and optimistic but at the moment the 1st team feels like a big struggle. Losing Clayton wouldn't help that feeling.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 5, 2014 12:29:17 GMT 1
the person/organisation that publishes first wether on social media or general media is the one who was 'copied'..
Nixon published first.. simple.
stop being a twat..its beginning to suit you...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:35:31 GMT 1
i'm sorry i'm stuck in an audit. Has he been sold then or is it all bollox?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:39:50 GMT 1
i'm sorry i'm stuck in an audit. Has he been sold then or is it all bollox? No firm news yet but rumors that Brighton have met the 2 million valuation and that Boro may also be coming back with an improved offer. There is also a suggestion that Town may offer him an improved contract to try to get him stay. All rumor, mainly based on Nixon's tweets. Supposed to be sorted in 24 hours or so one way or another.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 5, 2014 12:42:25 GMT 1
Just a shame that pre-season is all but finished, and sny replacement/s won't have any time to bed in, get used to their teammates or our tactics. I used to think pre-season was for all that sort of stuff - until last season when we started playing 3-5-2 after a couple of hours practice the day before the Bradford cup tie. Decent players "gel" very quickly.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 5, 2014 12:48:06 GMT 1
It doesn't work like that. We have valuations for all our players. If someone matches that valuation in a bid and Town want to sell then the bidding club are allowed to talk to the player to negotiate personal terms. As Dean's has plenty of dosh in his back pocket and doesn't need to sell - we are always in the driving seat when it comes to player sales. so what are you saying? we never offered him a deal and never intended to? What would have happened if no one met the valuation do we just let him run down his contract? I'm sure we offered him a deal at the same time that Lynch extended his contract. Yes DH's pockets are deep enough to run down his contract and from his dealings with Rhodes / Blackburn you can also see he is bloody minded enough to see it through.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:49:12 GMT 1
Information is information, You cant just make it up, Just because someone else publishes it first doesn't mean its copied. Who copies who at 10pm each evening? do the bbc copy itv? or Itv copy the bbc... and where do sky news come into it? Hardly something new that Middlesborough are back in the running, they were never out of it, but hoped to play the long game and get him at a decent price. The confirmed Brighton interest has forced their hand. There is a rumour that Notts Forest are making a late play, as they are desperately looking for midfield recruits. I think the outcome of this is that he is leaving and we are doing something we haven't done before and starting an auction, because the ££££ offered isn't quite there. Its designed to force the hand of the interested parties. Its obviously gathering pace, so will come to a quick resolution, probably by tomorrow evening at the latest. Do you copy and edit, or just cut and paste Nixon's tweets Edit - Also in your earlier copied post you said that Brighton had met our valuation but yet you now say that its not quite there it seems it's the meat that you put onto the bones of a Nixon tweet that make you look such a fool and having to backtrack. They have met our valuation, which means he is on his way, we are just seeing if we can squeeze somemore and/or get him a better move.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:50:43 GMT 1
the person/organisation that publishes first wether on social media or general media is the one who was 'copied'.. Nixon published first.. simple. stop being a twat..its beginning to suit you... Sorry mate, he copied it off the same agent that is pushing the information to all his press contacts. Carry on being a twat. It suits you.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 5, 2014 12:53:43 GMT 1
the person/organisation that publishes first wether on social media or general media is the one who was 'copied'.. Nixon published first.. simple. stop being a twat..its beginning to suit you... Sorry mate, he copied it off the same agent that is pushing the information to all his press contacts. Carry on being a twat. It suits you. I'm sure you'd say exactly the same if you had posted ANY info before Nixon did.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 5, 2014 12:54:53 GMT 1
Just a shame that pre-season is all but finished, and sny replacement/s won't have any time to bed in, get used to their teammates or our tactics. I used to think pre-season was for all that sort of stuff - until last season when we started playing 3-5-2 after a couple of hours practice the day before the Bradford cup tie. Decent players "gel" very quickly. Do you know something we dont? Are we signing some....
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 5, 2014 12:57:07 GMT 1
the person/organisation that publishes first wether on social media or general media is the one who was 'copied'.. Nixon published first.. simple. stop being a twat..its beginning to suit you... Sorry mate, he copied it off the same agent that is pushing the information to all his press contacts. Carry on being a twat. It suits you. Are you one of them then? If so, can I recommend one of these? Now go and play with the traffic and stop posting shite for a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:58:59 GMT 1
IF Clayton is sold for an est. 2 mil and Robins is allowed to bring in replacement plus 1 or 2 others, does anybody on here believe he would make the right choice of player/players. At this present time if it was my money I would think twice before sanctioning anything.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 5, 2014 13:04:42 GMT 1
IF Clayton is sold for an est. 2 mil and Robins is allowed to bring in replacement plus 1 or 2 others, does anybody on here believe he would make the right choice of player/players. At this present time if it was my money I would think twice before sanctioning anything. Given that DH is his boss and employs him to be the manager then I can't imagine why you'd withhold funds to make purchases when we need them and the window closes in less than a month. If DH doesn't have faith in Robins then he should sack him, otherwise he should and IMO will back him with the necessary funds. It's DH's club and money to do with as he sees fit. If DH doesn't allow Robins to make purchases whilst not firing him then IMO he will be more culpable than Robins for any failing early this season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:05:04 GMT 1
Sorry mate, he copied it off the same agent that is pushing the information to all his press contacts. Carry on being a twat. It suits you. Are you one of them then? If so, can I recommend one of these? Now go and play with the traffic and stop posting shite for a bit. Im not going through my role in the newsnetwork again.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 5, 2014 13:09:52 GMT 1
Are you one of them then? If so, can I recommend one of these? Now go and play with the traffic and stop posting shite for a bit. Im not going through my role in the newsnetwork again. Good, I never did like Jackanory....
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 5, 2014 13:16:46 GMT 1
the only roll you have is probably ham and cheese..
he published first, you didn't, you copied him .. he gets information before you..
the leg you didn't have to stand on before was false anyway..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:17:51 GMT 1
can we all subscribe to this news network bollox or is it under 5's only?
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