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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 21:21:49 GMT 1
Why did we sign Lolley or Peltier if neither fit into the 352 formation ??!! Do we have any sort of strategy with regards purchases? Is anybody thinking ahead with a set style of play in mind, or are we just acquiring a few able bodies and hoping for the best? Somebody really does need to take this side by the bollocks and shape it properly!
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Post by htafc on Aug 4, 2014 21:23:06 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 21:23:44 GMT 1
Why did we sign Lolley or Peltier if neither fit into the 352 formation ??!! Do we have any sort of strategy with regards purchases? Is anybody thinking ahead with a set style of play in mind, or are we just acquiring a few able bodies and hoping for the best? Somebody really does need to take this side by the bollocks and shape it properly! I thought Hoyle said Robins had final say on who we try to sign. Then its up to the board to make it happen if it will fit in our wage structure and budget. It seems to me, and I am not anti Robins yet, that if the players do not fit the shape it is the Managers fault.
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 4, 2014 21:28:51 GMT 1
Do we have any sort of strategy with regards purchases? Is anybody thinking ahead with a set style of play in mind, or are we just acquiring a few able bodies and hoping for the best? Somebody really does need to take this side by the bollocks and shape it properly! I thought Hoyle said Robins had final say on who we try to sign. Then its up to the board to make it happen if it will fit in our wage structure and budget. It seems to me, and I am not anti Robins yet, that if the players do not fit the shape it is the Managers fault. Do you believe that though? Did Robins sack his backroom staff, get to sign the players he wanted? I doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 21:31:29 GMT 1
I thought Hoyle said Robins had final say on who we try to sign. Then its up to the board to make it happen if it will fit in our wage structure and budget. It seems to me, and I am not anti Robins yet, that if the players do not fit the shape it is the Managers fault. Do you believe that though? Did Robins sack his backroom staff, get to sign the players he wanted? I doubt it. This. And if it's true, then the situation needs addressing.
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Post by eddieyoudsscarf on Aug 4, 2014 21:42:09 GMT 1
"Tiered man , long arse day but very productive ... Get me to bed !!"
Clayts just tweeted this, looks like he's off
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 21:43:57 GMT 1
"Tiered man , long arse day but very productive ... Get me to bed !!" Clayts just tweeted this, looks like he's off He went training, then to Ikea, assembled a new wardrobe, went to a spin class and now wants to go to bed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 21:46:13 GMT 1
"Tiered man , long arse day but very productive ... Get me to bed !!" Clayts just tweeted this, looks like he's off How many tiers does he have?
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Post by Giggity on Aug 4, 2014 21:47:05 GMT 1
"Tiered man , long arse day but very productive ... Get me to bed !!" Clayts just tweeted this, looks like he's off
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 4, 2014 21:47:46 GMT 1
He's just been at Da Sandros for leaving do, gutted.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 21:49:54 GMT 1
In lighter news, man serenades cattle with his trombone
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Post by midlander on Aug 4, 2014 21:54:05 GMT 1
3-5-2 isn't a style of play though. 'Our' intended style can be displayed with various formations, evidenced by the frequent in-game changes we made to our structures last season. Just because Lolley doesn't necessarily fit perfectly into a certain formation, doesn't mean that there is no role for him. I see the 3 at the back and the 3 central midfielders as a necessity due to our lack of strength if we play just two bodies (especially in the midfield) and until we sign players that beef us up in those areas, Robins will have to continue in the short-term with a more centric formation until we have the desired personnel. However, that is the frustrating part as we have yet to address these shortcomings this summer. Peltier is fine in a three, but as one of two centre-backs, I'm not so sure. Majewski needs to probably play as part of a midfield three or floating off a lone striker. Either way, there is no way that he can be half of a midfield 2. our signings don't address our fundamental weaknesses which is the main concern. Whether that's down to Robins or Wilson, Clibbens and Hoyle is a topic for debate. Either Robins can't work out what we need, or, more likely, the board cannot close the deals for the ones that he really wants. We are only a strong centre-half and a mobile, physical centre-mid from being a very competitive side. Add in another striker, if we can clear some deadwood off the wage bill and we'll be good to go. We MUST have some quality loans lined up because, if not, our summer strategy has been very poorly executed.
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 4, 2014 21:59:45 GMT 1
He's just been at Da Sandros for leaving do, gutted. How do you know mate? Reliable info?
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Post by terrier10 on Aug 4, 2014 22:03:47 GMT 1
He's getting bites off of the regulars on twitter! Twitter in "he must be leaving" meltdown...
Good fishing Mr Clayton
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 4, 2014 22:04:11 GMT 1
Nixon just tweeted that there may be a twist and he wouldn't be surprised if clayts signed a new deal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 22:05:49 GMT 1
Nixon just tweeted that there may be a twist and he wouldn't be surprised if clayts signed a new deal. Flogged Hammill and used the money to keep Clayt the Great
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Post by htfc1984 on Aug 4, 2014 22:07:23 GMT 1
Personally I'm now at the stage where I don't give a toss what happens with him. If he didn't want to go I'm sure he would have released a statement. The fact he hasn't suggests he's more than open to other offers. I support huddersfield town, not over inflated egos. Problem is they seem to go hand in hand more recently. Slightly disappointed with town over this. Maybe we could have come out and said something along the lines of 'we should be building a team around players of Clayton's obvious capabilities, we want him to be our captain and to lead this great club'
Have we actually offered him a contract? Have we actually said we won't be selling unless a daft fee comes in? Genuine questions as I may have missed bits of info over the last couple of months.
IF we sell him I really hope we have others lined up. Don't want us to leave it until the possible last minute scramble of very average/past it players. Anyway, moan over.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 22:10:32 GMT 1
Personally I'm now at the stage where I don't give a toss what happens with him. If he didn't want to go I'm sure he would have released a statement. The fact he hasn't suggests he's more than open to other offers. I support huddersfield town, not over inflated egos. Problem is they seem to go hand in hand more recently. Slightly disappointed with town over this. Maybe we could have come out and said something along the lines of 'we should be building a team around players of Clayton's obvious capabilities, we want him to be our captain and to lead this great club' Have we actually offered him a contract? Have we actually said we won't be selling unless a daft fee comes in? Genuine questions as I may have missed bits of info over the last couple of months. IF we sell him I really hope we have others lined up. Don't want us to leave it until the possible last minute scramble of very average/past it players. Anyway, moan over. I dont know if we have offered him a new contract but would be amazed if we had not. As for whether he can go, I believe the answer is yes if someone comes up with 2 million in cash.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 4, 2014 22:12:34 GMT 1
Not sure we have offered a deal. Suggestion is that now Brighton are serious we might make him an offer to stay. I think its been business as usual until someone matches the asking price. Now Brighton have, its towns turn to make a move.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 22:19:37 GMT 1
It's always the same drama on here when a player is linked with leaving: Roberts - "Oh we'll never replace his assists" Rhodes - "Oh we'll never replace his goals" Clayton - "He's our best player, we won't be able to replace him otherwise why would the buying club not buy said player instead" Hammill - "Oh we'll never replace his assists" Yet we usually always do I must have missed that 40 goal a season striker we replaced Rhodes with then, and the plethora of Good central midfielders we've had over recent years. Or those 15 assists and ten goals from left wing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 22:36:00 GMT 1
Not sure we have offered a deal. Suggestion is that now Brighton are serious we might make him an offer to stay. I think its been business as usual until someone matches the asking price. Now Brighton have, its towns turn to make a move. You may be right. Not sure Brighton have actually offered 2 mill but I think they are close. I guess it will come down to whether we can match their personal terms or at least come close enough to it to keep him here.
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Post by ritchie on Aug 4, 2014 22:57:28 GMT 1
Not sure we have offered a deal. Suggestion is that now Brighton are serious we might make him an offer to stay. I think its been business as usual until someone matches the asking price. Now Brighton have, its towns turn to make a move. why would we wait for them to bid to offer him a deal that would only be a bargaining chip for claytons camp and drive up what he wanted us to offer him
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Post by ritchie on Aug 4, 2014 22:59:20 GMT 1
i bet he's signed a new deal and is doing some serious fishing on twitter hinting he's going boro.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 23:00:46 GMT 1
Not sure we have offered a deal. Suggestion is that now Brighton are serious we might make him an offer to stay. I think its been business as usual until someone matches the asking price. Now Brighton have, its towns turn to make a move. why would we wait for them to bid to offer him a deal that would only be a bargaining chip for claytons camp and drive up what he wanted us to offer him Because until someone matched our valuation we're completely within our rights to do nothing. He can sign a contract at any time during the forthcoming season.
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Post by flevans on Aug 4, 2014 23:02:20 GMT 1
In lighter news, man serenades cattle with his trombone Now that is genuinely the best thing I've seen on DATM for months.
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Post by captainhindsight on Aug 4, 2014 23:03:40 GMT 1
In lighter news, man serenades cattle with his trombone I've seen some weird things on this forum but this might just top it. Maybe we could use this guy to serenade some signings?
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 4, 2014 23:03:44 GMT 1
8 pages of DATM gold and he's still here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 23:13:38 GMT 1
Why did we sign Lolley or Peltier if neither fit into the 352 formation ??!! Because we'll be playing 4-5-1 more often than not ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 23:14:59 GMT 1
Sounds like Brighton may well have bid 2 million now.
Make him the best offer we are willing to and tell him to make his mind up in 24 hours.
Hopefully whatever happens it's done quickly now. Gone on long enough.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 4, 2014 23:17:59 GMT 1
I have had a long ass day but haven't signed for Brighton or been to De Sandros.. I guess its still not too late for boro to give me a ring though...
maybe the town contract was written in latin, that would have been a long read..
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