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Post by horler1 on Sept 2, 2015 0:39:37 GMT 1
I think: - We haven't signed a striker because we only plan on using 1
- We are trying to strike a better balance with attack and defence
- So we now have a 2 wingers and an AM (Paterson) with Bunn and Lolley providing backup
- We are trying to replace Butterfield in different areas
- We have been trying to play with an AM as shown in pre-season with Lolley and Bunn
Add to that we have a large number of midfielders (including wingers). This makes me think we are going to play: This will get the best out of Wells.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Sept 2, 2015 1:09:30 GMT 1
You are fooling yourself leaving out Hudson if you think that will be the team as opposed to the team you would like to see. I think something serious has to happen before the back four is dismantled. So Smith Hudson Lynch and Davidson it is.
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Post by horler1 on Sept 2, 2015 1:12:07 GMT 1
You are fooling yourself leaving out Hudson if you think that will be the team as opposed to the team you would like to see. I think something serious has to happen before the back four is dismantled. So Smith Hudson Lynch and Davidson it is. I didn't choose him because he went off injured last match. I fully expect him to start if he's fit.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Sept 2, 2015 1:24:52 GMT 1
I think CP will try and keep that back four together as long as possible in the hope that they will improve and become a cohesive unit. I did not know he was injured though.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 2, 2015 1:35:45 GMT 1
Didn't we try the 1 striker option with Nahki for the best part of a season after he was signed - and nearly went down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 5:21:16 GMT 1
Wells up front on his own is a one way ticket to league one. We would need a class striker who could play that role.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 2, 2015 6:19:51 GMT 1
And even as back up Bunn showed against Notts County that he can't play as the AM
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Post by Mr Breitside on Sept 2, 2015 7:19:04 GMT 1
Whitehead and Hogg will both play in the middle, add Huws in then put the others in around that.
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Post by townrwe on Sept 2, 2015 9:51:14 GMT 1
I think: - We haven't signed a striker because we only plan on using 1
- We are trying to strike a better balance with attack and defence
- So we now have a 2 wingers and an AM (Paterson) with Bunn and Lolley providing backup
- We are trying to replace Butterfield in different areas
- We have been trying to play with an AM as shown in pre-season with Lolley and Bunn
Add to that we have a large number of midfielders (including wingers). This makes me think we are going to play: This will get the best out of Wells. This is obviously the formation he is looking to play, hogg and whitehead/huws will be slightly more defensive rather than genuine central midfielders, scannell and carayol/huws will push on and support wells/bunn/miller. Paterson will play no.10 role, in the hole or attacking midfield. As for the defence. Whitehead for smith is an option, but rest will be Hudson, Lynch Davidson.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 2, 2015 9:57:19 GMT 1
I think: - We haven't signed a striker because we only plan on using 1
- We are trying to strike a better balance with attack and defence
- So we now have a 2 wingers and an AM (Paterson) with Bunn and Lolley providing backup
- We are trying to replace Butterfield in different areas
- We have been trying to play with an AM as shown in pre-season with Lolley and Bunn
Add to that we have a large number of midfielders (including wingers). This makes me think we are going to play: This will get the best out of Wells. you are probably right he will start 4-2-3-1 defo away at Cardiff from home and probably at home. Imo Wells needs a partner, maybe Ameobi in will change all this , be interesting to see next game and if CP can get the best out of the players at his disposal and the results to propel us away from this shite start
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Post by townrwe on Sept 2, 2015 10:00:30 GMT 1
Something more like this will be how we set up. Not sure it suits wells really, but also it wouldnt suit miller either as we need someone who will score goals, the ideal player would be Vaughan, but who knows whit him! Also if Huws did play DM, he would swap sides with hogg.
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Post by terrier13 on Sept 2, 2015 10:06:45 GMT 1
I think: - We haven't signed a striker because we only plan on using 1
- We are trying to strike a better balance with attack and defence
- So we now have a 2 wingers and an AM (Paterson) with Bunn and Lolley providing backup
- We are trying to replace Butterfield in different areas
- We have been trying to play with an AM as shown in pre-season with Lolley and Bunn
Add to that we have a large number of midfielders (including wingers). This makes me think we are going to play: This will get the best out of Wells. Don't think you're too far off the mark here. I actually think that the need for a second striker is lessened if we have such an attacking trio behind Wells. I for one would much rather see this team than a team with Miller in a front 2. One thing we've always lacked is the opportunity to have a good AM that sits just behind the striker in the famed 'no. 10' role. My only concern is that we have no back-up for Wells in this formation.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 2, 2015 10:12:04 GMT 1
If you are playing the way above..
Vaughan on a good day is the only striker we have who can hold it up and realistically score some goals..
Id like to believe that we can play the ball via midfield into patterson who could be a potent deeper striker but its more hope than anything else.
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 2, 2015 10:14:22 GMT 1
Unfortunately I think he will stick to his lop sided 442 and try and stick huws in as the left sided mid.
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Post by swissterrier on Sept 2, 2015 10:31:48 GMT 1
While I can see an awful lot of logic with what the OP has proposed, it seems to fit all of our best players in, and is reasonably balanced.
If you are the opposition it would hardly scare you though would it?
I can only see this team functioning on the lightening fast counter attacks, which has never been our forte.
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Post by horler1 on Sept 2, 2015 14:16:36 GMT 1
And even as back up Bunn showed against Notts County that he can't play as the AM Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Lolley can play that position though. Lolley - AM, RW Bunn - AM, LW Carayol - LW, RW? Scannell - RW Paterson - LW, AM, RW In my opinion
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Post by horler1 on Sept 2, 2015 14:17:44 GMT 1
Something more like this will be how we set up. Not sure it suits wells really, but also it wouldnt suit miller either as we need someone who will score goals, the ideal player would be Vaughan, but who knows whit him! Also if Huws did play DM, he would swap sides with hogg. Agreed. Paterson and the wingers will drop in when we defend I think.
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Post by mykindatown on Sept 2, 2015 15:13:17 GMT 1
If getting the right balance is the answer is the question can CP achieve it
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Post by townrwe on Sept 2, 2015 15:56:53 GMT 1
While I can see an awful lot of logic with what the OP has proposed, it seems to fit all of our best players in, and is reasonably balanced. If you are the opposition it would hardly scare you though would it? I can only see this team functioning on the lightening fast counter attacks, which has never been our forte. I presume that is why we have brought in carayol, paterson. With the addition of scannell and I presume nahki, it could be pretty quick counter attack. Huws seems to be able to pick a pass early from what ive seen and may operate in claytons "quarterback" role.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 16:02:17 GMT 1
Is Whitehead a right back too then? I thought Cranie was supposed to be cover at RB?
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Post by terrier13 on Sept 2, 2015 16:09:47 GMT 1
While I can see an awful lot of logic with what the OP has proposed, it seems to fit all of our best players in, and is reasonably balanced. If you are the opposition it would hardly scare you though would it? I can only see this team functioning on the lightening fast counter attacks, which has never been our forte. I think theres enough pace in that front four to scare many a team in our league. Certainly enough to put them on the back foot. We've lacked an out and out AM for some time and I think it will give us more impetus in our attack. We'll then have a team that has the potential to attack at pace or go down the wings with two wingers who love to take people on.
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Post by horler1 on Sept 2, 2015 16:13:02 GMT 1
Is Whitehead a right back too then? I thought Cranie was supposed to be cover at RB? That's where he played for Middlesbrough. I'd rather have him there than Smith.
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Post by horler1 on Sept 2, 2015 16:14:20 GMT 1
While I can see an awful lot of logic with what the OP has proposed, it seems to fit all of our best players in, and is reasonably balanced. If you are the opposition it would hardly scare you though would it? I can only see this team functioning on the lightening fast counter attacks, which has never been our forte. I think theres enough pace in that front four to scare many a team in our league. Certainly enough to put them on the back foot. We've lacked an out and out AM for some time and I think it will give us more impetus in our attack. We'll then have a team that has the potential to attack at pace or go down the wings with two wingers who love to take people on. I agree; I think that team is pretty balanced and has pace to burn. Through balls from Paterson for Wells and Carayol and Scannell creating space.
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Post by Batman on Sept 2, 2015 17:03:07 GMT 1
I can't understand why people keep wanting to stick Whitehead at RB; my mate is a Boro fan and said he was dire when playing in that position - no pace meaning that an winger with a yard of pace will have a field day against him!
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Post by terrier13 on Sept 2, 2015 17:07:20 GMT 1
I think theres enough pace in that front four to scare many a team in our league. Certainly enough to put them on the back foot. We've lacked an out and out AM for some time and I think it will give us more impetus in our attack. We'll then have a team that has the potential to attack at pace or go down the wings with two wingers who love to take people on. I agree; I think that team is pretty balanced and has pace to burn. Through balls from Paterson for Wells and Carayol and Scannell creating space. Most important point here. We need Wells running in behind the defence, that's the kind of play he wants to be involved in. He's not a striker that wants to be holding the ball up and bringing others into the game. Let the midfield create the space and play him through. We forget how quick Wells can be because with the current set up he's always getting the ball into feet facing his own goal.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 2, 2015 17:45:09 GMT 1
I agree; I think that team is pretty balanced and has pace to burn. Through balls from Paterson for Wells and Carayol and Scannell creating space. Most important point here. We need Wells running in behind the defence, that's the kind of play he wants to be involved in.He's not a striker that wants to be holding the ball up and bringing others into the game. Let the midfield create the space and play him through. We forget how quick Wells can be because with the current set up he's always getting the ball into feet facing his own goal. Unfortunately he has been running in behind the defence in a different direction to Butterfield's through balls for all of this season and most of last.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 19:44:27 GMT 1
I think: - We haven't signed a striker because we only plan on using 1
- We are trying to strike a better balance with attack and defence
- So we now have a 2 wingers and an AM (Paterson) with Bunn and Lolley providing backup
- We are trying to replace Butterfield in different areas
- We have been trying to play with an AM as shown in pre-season with Lolley and Bunn
Add to that we have a large number of midfielders (including wingers). This makes me think we are going to play: This will get the best out of Wells. Wells is on his own so it won't work
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 3, 2015 20:32:28 GMT 1
Most important point here. We need Wells running in behind the defence, that's the kind of play he wants to be involved in.He's not a striker that wants to be holding the ball up and bringing others into the game. Let the midfield create the space and play him through. We forget how quick Wells can be because with the current set up he's always getting the ball into feet facing his own goal. Unfortunately he has been running in behind the defence in a different direction to Butterfield's through balls for all of this season and most of last. Well, that's one problem we've solved then!!
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Post by conman on Sept 3, 2015 21:16:39 GMT 1
Unfortunately he has been running in behind the defence in a different direction to Butterfield's through balls for all of this season and most of last. Well, that's one problem we've solved then!! That's exactly what I was thinking, maybe butterfield was too quick or clever for wells. What we need is someone who points or states where the ball is going to be put..
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 3, 2015 21:18:58 GMT 1
Well, that's one problem we've solved then!! That's exactly what I was thinking, maybe butterfield was too quick or clever for wells. What we need is someone who points or states where the ball is going to be put.. Are you suggesting ......?
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