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Post by royrace on Sept 25, 2015 23:19:46 GMT 1
Plenty contributing to this thread who are brilliant examples of why our club won't progress. Truth is we have a large proportion of fans who lack any commitment, all looking for reasons as to why they can't attend matches. Contrast that to clubs with a proper loyal fan base like Newcastle and Sunderland and you see the problem. The irony is the non committed type who give fuck all to the club are the ones constantly bleating that we're not winning every week. To be honest I'd prefer it if they fucked off and supported their premiership team cos I'm guessing they all have one and I guess they all subscribe to sky sports. This season's crowds are an embarrassment to be frank and must be a huge kick in the Bollocks to Dean, his staff and the players.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 25, 2015 23:29:11 GMT 1
Average age of a paying football fan? Its 40. Young lads have lost interest, there is a big part of it at...yes...lower league level. Man Utd could fill the stadium with prawn sandwiches and Malaysian nerds. Its 4 times the cost now compared to the 70's and for 90 minutes, supposed entertainment, simply not value. I genuinely think £10 is more than enough, competing or not. There are many teams on way lower budgets who can mix it with Town, unfortunately the next level is such a jump we cannot bridge it. Town need to get smart, they dont need 100 staff, Canalside, an academy or all the razamatazz if truth be told. Just tell every player that its max £5k a week and i bet we would not be weaker for it. They clearly just need, based on the last fortnight, an ability in the cheap loans market!
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 25, 2015 23:44:28 GMT 1
Average age of a paying football fan? Its 40. Young lads have lost interest, there is a big part of it at...yes...lower league level. Man Utd could fill the stadium with prawn sandwiches and Malaysian nerds. Its 4 times the cost now compared to the 70's and for 90 minutes, supposed entertainment, simply not value. I genuinely think £10 is more than enough, competing or not. There are many teams on way lower budgets who can mix it with Town, unfortunately the next level is such a jump we cannot bridge it. Town need to get smart, they dont need 100 staff, Canalside, an academy or all the razamatazz if truth be told. Just tell every player that its max £5k a week and i bet we would not be weaker for it. They clearly just need, based on the last fortnight, an ability in the cheap loans market! You don't half talk absolutely fucking shit to try to sound outré
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Post by terrierpark on Sept 25, 2015 23:52:31 GMT 1
I wondered how long it would be before the club moaned about the attendances, but at least DH recognised the correlation of the dire football and the dwindling numbers. However there are plent of other reasons why fans have lost interest,which i note he didnt touch upon. Failure to address the present needs of the team Spending money on players not able to make an impact on the first team Selling players who are not for sale and then after the sale release the info they asked for the transfer, as they all do and always selling on deadline day so no time to spend any of the money Investing on players that are not ours Telling the fans we are making progress when there is clearly no thought to team building, and the product i.e. the football has been poor. Constantly reminding fans how we cant compete, we all know , we get it, but it hardly motivates you to come and watch does it?
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Post by royrace on Sept 25, 2015 23:54:03 GMT 1
Average age of a paying football fan? Its 40. Young lads have lost interest, there is a big part of it at...yes...lower league level. Man Utd could fill the stadium with prawn sandwiches and Malaysian nerds. Its 4 times the cost now compared to the 70's and for 90 minutes, supposed entertainment, simply not value. I genuinely think £10 is more than enough, competing or not. There are many teams on way lower budgets who can mix it with Town, unfortunately the next level is such a jump we cannot bridge it. Town need to get smart, they dont need 100 staff, Canalside, an academy or all the razamatazz if truth be told. Just tell every player that its max £5k a week and i bet we would not be weaker for it. They clearly just need, based on the last fortnight, an ability in the cheap loans market! Bollocks Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by ligament on Sept 26, 2015 0:07:15 GMT 1
Season ticket for me and the lad £595 total in the south stand works out around £13 each per game, cheap as chips for championship football. UTT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 0:08:30 GMT 1
Plenty contributing to this thread who are brilliant examples of why our club won't progress. Truth is we have a large proportion of fans who lack any commitment, all looking for reasons as to why they can't attend matches. Contrast that to clubs with a proper loyal fan base like Newcastle and Sunderland and you see the problem. The irony is the non committed type who give fuck all to the club are the ones constantly bleating that we're not winning every week. To be honest I'd prefer it if they fucked off and supported their premiership team cos I'm guessing they all have one and I guess they all subscribe to sky sports. This season's crowds are an embarrassment to be frank and must be a huge kick in the Bollocks to Dean, his staff and the players. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards I'll go support Man City then because I can't dedicate every Saturday to Huddersfield Town.
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Post by ligament on Sept 26, 2015 0:11:12 GMT 1
I wondered how long it would be before the club moaned about the attendances, but at least DH recognised the correlation of the dire football and the dwindling numbers. However there are plent of other reasons why fans have lost interest,which i note he didnt touch upon. Failure to address the present needs of the team Spending money on players not able to make an impact on the first team Selling players who are not for sale and then after the sale release the info they asked for the transfer, as they all do and always selling on deadline day so no time to spend any of the money Investing on players that are not ours Telling the fans we are making progress when there is clearly no thought to team building, and the product i.e. the football has been poor. Constantly reminding fans how we cant compete, we all know , we get it, but it hardly motivates you to come and watch does it? Moaning about moaning ....quality.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Sept 26, 2015 0:10:58 GMT 1
Lots of reasons why more fans don't come to watch Huddersfield. If you are a family man it can totally bollocks your weekend. So if you have enough cash you might want to go spend time with the wife and kids if you have worked all week. weather - its often cold enough to freeze a pissing dog to a lamp post -far better to stay in and watch it on sky. Choice - lots of other sports you can do - ie play yourself or play golf or get on t'moors. now I am not saying these are reasons why i don't go, just expanding the subject, but to keep carping on that folk don't come because we are not very good is only a small portion of the argument. Pompey are not very good but their crowd pisses all over ours.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 26, 2015 0:13:04 GMT 1
I wondered how long it would be before the club moaned about the attendances, but at least DH recognised the correlation of the dire football and the dwindling numbers. However there are plent of other reasons why fans have lost interest,which i note he didnt touch upon. Failure to address the present needs of the team Spending money on players not able to make an impact on the first team Selling players who are not for sale and then after the sale release the info they asked for the transfer, as they all do and always selling on deadline day so no time to spend any of the money Investing on players that are not ours Telling the fans we are making progress when there is clearly no thought to team building, and the product i.e. the football has been poor. Constantly reminding fans how we cant compete, we all know , we get it, but it hardly motivates you to come and watch does it? And all the while finishing as high as we have in 15 years? Knob heads like you are the main problem the club has. No relative thought, no encouragement just 'I know best' criticism.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 0:17:24 GMT 1
Lots of reasons why more fans don't come to watch Huddersfield. If you are a family man it can totally bollocks your weekend. So if you have enough cash you might want to go spend time with the wife and kids if you have worked all week. weather - its often cold enough to freeze a pissing dog to a lamp post -far better to stay in and watch it on sky. Choice - lots of other sports you can do - ie play yourself or play golf or get on t'moors. now I am not saying these are reasons why i don't go, just expanding the subject, but to keep carping on that folk don't come because we are not very good is only a small portion of the argument. Pompey are not very good but their crowd pisses all over ours. I paid on the gate several times last season, Rotherham was the final straw for me. £25 to watch quite frankly a shower of shite. That turned me right off. I'd have paid more had the football been better. You gamble with your money when you go to watch football - you know you may not see a win or a 10 goal bonanza but to pay towards £30 to watch a manager who sets up cautiously with a side that's squad isn't the best then you can see why people chose to spend their cash elsewhere. As previously stated on this site - some lads rocked up to the game saw £30 and went back to the pub. £30 to watch 90 mins of football may be becoming the norm but for your average football fan who has lost the habit of going week in week out, it's a major turn off.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2015 0:21:04 GMT 1
I wondered how long it would be before the club moaned about the attendances, but at least DH recognised the correlation of the dire football and the dwindling numbers. However there are plent of other reasons why fans have lost interest,which i note he didnt touch upon. Failure to address the present needs of the team Spending money on players not able to make an impact on the first team Selling players who are not for sale and then after the sale release the info they asked for the transfer, as they all do and always selling on deadline day so no time to spend any of the money Investing on players that are not ours Telling the fans we are making progress when there is clearly no thought to team building, and the product i.e. the football has been poor. Constantly reminding fans how we cant compete, we all know , we get it, but it hardly motivates you to come and watch does it? Nearly all the signings weve made since last season have had a positive impact on the 1st team and the squad looks much stronger than it did as a result. So the couple of young lads we OBVIOUSLY bought with an eye to the future haven't had an immediate impact on the 1st team? The idea is they will further down the line. We may have blown some money or we may have ended up with an absolute bargain- time will tell, but can you not just see it for what it was rather than desperately trying to find something negative you can whinge about in it? We got a stupidly high bid for a player and sold him and like a lot of stupidly high bids, it came very late in the window as clubs start to panic. As DH said, the money is still largely there to use in the future, but in the meantime we went out and brought in a player for this season who so far looks better than the one who left. I really don't get what the point of you 'supporting' this club is. Any tenuous excuse to slag it off in any way you can. I mean if I disliked something as much as you appear to dislike HTFC id quickly think of something else to do with my time.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 26, 2015 0:35:47 GMT 1
Average age of a paying football fan? Its 40. Young lads have lost interest, there is a big part of it at...yes...lower league level. Man Utd could fill the stadium with prawn sandwiches and Malaysian nerds. Its 4 times the cost now compared to the 70's and for 90 minutes, supposed entertainment, simply not value. I genuinely think £10 is more than enough, competing or not. There are many teams on way lower budgets who can mix it with Town, unfortunately the next level is such a jump we cannot bridge it. Town need to get smart, they dont need 100 staff, Canalside, an academy or all the razamatazz if truth be told. Just tell every player that its max £5k a week and i bet we would not be weaker for it. They clearly just need, based on the last fortnight, an ability in the cheap loans market! You don't half talk absolutely fucking shit to try to sound outré Which bit is shocking? Which part is "shit"? The thread is about falling attendances, i tried to address this quickly. Its boring, over-priced and the disengagement is not on the fans side, as Hoyle claims, but on the club side. Budget only counts at the top, top level. We have been performing better the last 3 games with 6 cheap loans than we have for 3 years with big contract players. Canalside gets you zero points i believe.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 26, 2015 0:39:03 GMT 1
Average age of a paying football fan? Its 40. Young lads have lost interest, there is a big part of it at...yes...lower league level. Man Utd could fill the stadium with prawn sandwiches and Malaysian nerds. Its 4 times the cost now compared to the 70's and for 90 minutes, supposed entertainment, simply not value. I genuinely think £10 is more than enough, competing or not. There are many teams on way lower budgets who can mix it with Town, unfortunately the next level is such a jump we cannot bridge it. Town need to get smart, they dont need 100 staff, Canalside, an academy or all the razamatazz if truth be told. Just tell every player that its max £5k a week and i bet we would not be weaker for it. They clearly just need, based on the last fortnight, an ability in the cheap loans market! Bollocks Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Yes, i am known for them. Do you have any by the way?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 26, 2015 0:40:05 GMT 1
Its not rocket science, people want to see winning entertaining football that doesn't cost the earth, see the club buying decent players and not selling its best players, people want to see the club showing ambition. The club has fallen down pretty badly on all 3. If anyone think fans are going to rock up, pay 30 notes to watch basically poor quality entertainment, then you really don't have a clue.
Take the current situation, the club are in dire need of a striker, its not been addressed the club, the club have sold 3 players for combined fees of around 8 million quid. As a floater, what foes that say to you?
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 26, 2015 0:44:52 GMT 1
Average age of a paying football fan? Its 40. Young lads have lost interest, there is a big part of it at...yes...lower league level. Man Utd could fill the stadium with prawn sandwiches and Malaysian nerds. Its 4 times the cost now compared to the 70's and for 90 minutes, supposed entertainment, simply not value. I genuinely think £10 is more than enough, competing or not. There are many teams on way lower budgets who can mix it with Town, unfortunately the next level is such a jump we cannot bridge it. Town need to get smart, they dont need 100 staff, Canalside, an academy or all the razamatazz if truth be told. Just tell every player that its max £5k a week and i bet we would not be weaker for it. They clearly just need, based on the last fortnight, an ability in the cheap loans market! Bollocks Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Its all right bleating on about fans of Newcastle and Sunderland being dedicated,,,there is sod all else to do up there. They also get to see £100 million of talent every single game...i get about 5 bobs worth for MORE cost. I was one of those who saw 2 years of games without missing a match home and away in the 4th Division....when we regularly took tice as many away as now!! Partly my age and societal change but where is the fun and excitement? We are being spoon fed a crap product whilst being pick-pocketed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 0:48:27 GMT 1
Its not rocket science, people want to see winning entertaining football that doesn't cost the earth, see the club buying decent players and not selling its best players, people want to see the club showing ambition. The club has fallen down pretty badly on all 3. If anyone think fans are going to rock up, pay 30 notes to watch basically poor quality entertainment, then you really don't have a clue. Take the current situation, the club are in dire need of a striker, its not been addressed the club, the club have sold 3 players for combined fees of around 8 million quid. As a floater , what foes that say to you? That we're pretty 'flush'?
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 26, 2015 1:11:02 GMT 1
Bollocks Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Its all right bleating on about fans of Newcastle and Sunderland being dedicated,,,there is sod all else to do up there. They also get to see £100 million of talent every single game...i get about 5 bobs worth for MORE cost. I was one of those who saw 2 years of games without missing a match home and away in the 4th Division....when we regularly took tice as many away as now!! Partly my age and societal change but where is the fun and excitement? We are being spoon fed a crap product whilst being pick-pocketed. If we could score four goals it might entice more support but we're not going to do that this season
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 2:16:33 GMT 1
Just tell every player that its max £5k a week and i bet we would not be weaker for it. Do you actually believe that? You know, there are a few teams that have that approach, they play in League 2. Name me a team in the past 10 years that has paid it's players sub £5k across the board, and survived (or even reached) this division.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 2:35:06 GMT 1
Gotta feel sorry for Dean Hoyle. Invested massively and the people of Huddersfield have not backed the team. I feel guilty for not going and I live 4000 miles away. What happened to everyone that was at Old Trafford. I can tell you they are not coming because there's no glory associated with being a Town supporter right now.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Sept 26, 2015 2:58:52 GMT 1
Lots of reasons why more fans don't come to watch Huddersfield. If you are a family man it can totally bollocks your weekend. So if you have enough cash you might want to go spend time with the wife and kids if you have worked all week. weather - its often cold enough to freeze a pissing dog to a lamp post -far better to stay in and watch it on sky. Choice - lots of other sports you can do - ie play yourself or play golf or get on t'moors. now I am not saying these are reasons why i don't go, just expanding the subject, but to keep carping on that folk don't come because we are not very good is only a small portion of the argument. Pompey are not very good but their crowd pisses all over ours. I paid on the gate several times last season, Rotherham was the final straw for me. £25 to watch quite frankly a shower of shite. That turned me right off. I'd have paid more had the football been better. You gamble with your money when you go to watch football - you know you may not see a win or a 10 goal bonanza but to pay towards £30 to watch a manager who sets up cautiously with a side that's squad isn't the best then you can see why people chose to spend their cash elsewhere. As previously stated on this site - some lads rocked up to the game saw £30 and went back to the pub. £30 to watch 90 mins of football may be becoming the norm but for your average football fan who has lost the habit of going week in week out, it's a major turn off. I wish it would turn you off
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Post by keithAM11532 on Sept 26, 2015 3:04:23 GMT 1
Gotta feel sorry for Dean Hoyle. Invested massively and the people of Huddersfield have not backed the team. I feel guilty for not going and I live 4000 miles away. What happened to everyone that was at Old Trafford. I can tell you they are not coming because there's no glory associated with being a Town supporter right now. Well that depends on your perspective Davva. I got bucket loads of glory from the Charlton win, and un-describable glory from the Bolton win. but then I consider myself to be a true town fan. I do not support them because I expect to see them win all the time. I support them because I was born there. Those that think thousands of extra fans will arrive if we start winning are kidding them selves. Sure a few more will come if we migrate to the top of the league. Thousands more will come if we get to the premier League. but they wont be coming to watch us they will be coming to watch Rooney et al.
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Post by trailingleg on Sept 26, 2015 5:20:59 GMT 1
Just an aside, but I wonder what CP thinks about Dean's 'dire' football remark. The guy has got us to the best finish in more than a decade and we are currently 13th - this after having the players he was building a team around sold from under him. For me the Charlton and Bolton results were outstanding under the circumstances, and as for needing a striker, we had one in James Vaughan until the Chairman pissed him off. I like Deano, like most on here, but let's face it, he can be pretty tactless at times.
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 26, 2015 6:06:32 GMT 1
This is the problem with up and down pricing though. People baulk at paying £30.50 for the first few games and don't go cos they feel ripped off. Add in the negativity of selling our better players and the habbit is then broken and its infinitely easier to not bother going again, even if it's £15 one week. With these deals people either go for the one game then stop again when the price doubles or they don't bother at all knowing that it's back up to rip off prices in the future. We also pick stupid games for the deals. The price was inelastic last night, making it £15 for a game on a Thursday night that's on TV was a pointless exercise, as is making it £10 for fucking MK Dons also on a weekday night. The people going to those games are the people with season tickets who have already bought in, not floaters. They need to pick a decent game, on a Saturday at 3pm, for a promo to have any effect. Making the Derby game £15 would have been a much better idea as a promo. Having said that, I'd personally just bin off the promo thing and charge a reasonable price - Ideally £20 but probably more 22/23 quid - for each and every league game. No categories, no price difference between Kilner, South Stand and RW Stand, no need for take10 schemes and whatnot - Just plain, simple 'no nonsense' pricing. Not Bradford give away and pretend pricing, but plain simple stuff that doesn't touch a nerve with floaters, doesn't require research or pre-purchase. I don't think they understand their market. I think you are bang on with this. The club need to make it as easy as possible for people to turn up and watch a game. If they know what the price is whatever the game and the price is reasonable, perhaps £20 like you said, and they can just turn up on the spur of the moment and hand over their cash at the turnstile then that has got to help. But he is quoted in the paper as saying that he won't be looking to reduce walk-up prices. I think that's a mistake.
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 26, 2015 6:23:13 GMT 1
Argh, The old going rate comparison, pfft.
is it not relevant? you do want a competitive team do you not? It doesn't really matter what the "going rate" is. The only thing that matters is what is the price people will pay to watch Town play football. If you increase the price to a level that means people don't go to games, then you do not have the income to fund a competitive team. That would appear to be the problem at the moment. I guess what is more worrying is the possibility that, once people have stopped going, then it could be very difficult to get them back because they may have found other things to do on a match day.
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Post by royrace on Sept 26, 2015 8:00:44 GMT 1
Its not rocket science, people want to see winning entertaining football that doesn't cost the earth, see the club buying decent players and not selling its best players, people want to see the club showing ambition. The club has fallen down pretty badly on all 3. If anyone think fans are going to rock up, pay 30 notes to watch basically poor quality entertainment, then you really don't have a clue. Take the current situation, the club are in dire need of a striker, its not been addressed the club, the club have sold 3 players for combined fees of around 8 million quid. As a floater, what foes that say to you? The fact that we've just received 8m in fees says to me we have a squad that is light years ahead of anything we've had in a long, long time. I'm also intelligent enough to know the transfer window has just closed and this club doesn't panic buy shit players any more. Maybe you'd prefer it if our players were all shit and nobody wanted to pay silly money for them. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 8:11:16 GMT 1
I wondered how long it would be before the club moaned about the attendances, but at least DH recognised the correlation of the dire football and the dwindling numbers. However there are plent of other reasons why fans have lost interest,which i note he didnt touch upon. Failure to address the present needs of the team Spending money on players not able to make an impact on the first team Selling players who are not for sale and then after the sale release the info they asked for the transfer, as they all do and always selling on deadline day so no time to spend any of the money Investing on players that are not ours Telling the fans we are making progress when there is clearly no thought to team building, and the product i.e. the football has been poor. Constantly reminding fans how we cant compete, we all know , we get it, but it hardly motivates you to come and watch does it? The only bit I agree with here (and I'm probably being a bit generous to you), is that we haven't addressed the weaknesses in the team, however the defensive problems have been addressed, the loss of Butterfield has been addressed. We could do with a striker. When does the club ever say, "how we can't compete"? Seriously, that is utter crap. You just seem to want to ridicule the club. The club and Dean Hoyle in particular like to remind people what we are up against in this league. He has never ever said, they cant compete. If he did, he'd be talking as much rubbish as what you have done in this post.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 8:36:27 GMT 1
This is the problem with up and down pricing though. People baulk at paying £30.50 for the first few games and don't go cos they feel ripped off. Add in the negativity of selling our better players and the habbit is then broken and its infinitely easier to not bother going again, even if it's £15 one week. With these deals people either go for the one game then stop again when the price doubles or they don't bother at all knowing that it's back up to rip off prices in the future. We also pick stupid games for the deals. The price was inelastic last night, making it £15 for a game on a Thursday night that's on TV was a pointless exercise, as is making it £10 for fucking MK Dons also on a weekday night. The people going to those games are the people with season tickets who have already bought in, not floaters. They need to pick a decent game, on a Saturday at 3pm, for a promo to have any effect. Making the Derby game £15 would have been a much better idea as a promo. Having said that, I'd personally just bin off the promo thing and charge a reasonable price - Ideally £20 but probably more 22/23 quid - for each and every league game. No categories, no price difference between Kilner, South Stand and RW Stand, no need for take10 schemes and whatnot - Just plain, simple 'no nonsense' pricing. Not Bradford give away and pretend pricing, but plain simple stuff that doesn't touch a nerve with floaters, doesn't require research or pre-purchase. I don't think they understand their market. Brilliant post.
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Post by detox on Sept 26, 2015 8:56:24 GMT 1
This is the problem with up and down pricing though. People baulk at paying £30.50 for the first few games and don't go cos they feel ripped off. Add in the negativity of selling our better players and the habbit is then broken and its infinitely easier to not bother going again, even if it's £15 one week. With these deals people either go for the one game then stop again when the price doubles or they don't bother at all knowing that it's back up to rip off prices in the future. We also pick stupid games for the deals. The price was inelastic last night, making it £15 for a game on a Thursday night that's on TV was a pointless exercise, as is making it £10 for fucking MK Dons also on a weekday night. The people going to those games are the people with season tickets who have already bought in, not floaters. They need to pick a decent game, on a Saturday at 3pm, for a promo to have any effect. Making the Derby game £15 would have been a much better idea as a promo. Having said that, I'd personally just bin off the promo thing and charge a reasonable price - Ideally £20 but probably more 22/23 quid - for each and every league game. No categories, no price difference between Kilner, South Stand and RW Stand, no need for take10 schemes and whatnot - Just plain, simple 'no nonsense' pricing. Not Bradford give away and pretend pricing, but plain simple stuff that doesn't touch a nerve with floaters, doesn't require research or pre-purchase. I don't think they understand their market. Brilliant post. Clibbs is in the charge of the pricing strategy - and, imo, he's made a complete arse of it. What bugs me too is the casual fans arrive at the turnstile not knowing if it's £10, £15, £24, £27, £30 ...and I think the club do this deliberately... I'm 100% in favour of a flat pricing policy across the whole stadium because when you think about it, it's the casual fans who are leaving in droves, who are expected to pay top dollar, I never figured how you attract new customers by charging more than you do your regulars...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 8:58:18 GMT 1
Clibbs is in the charge of the pricing strategy - and, imo, he's made a complete arse of it. What bugs me too is the casual fans arrive at the turnstile not knowing if it's £10, £15, £24, £27, £30 ...and I think the club do this deliberately... I'm 100% in favour of a flat pricing policy across the whole stadium because when you think about it, it's the casual fans who are leaving in droves, who are expected to pay top dollar, I never figured how you attract new customers by charging more than you do your regulars... No comment.
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