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Post by Giggity on Mar 5, 2017 16:30:31 GMT 1
Like I said we played Brighton on Tuesday when your players were sitting in the house drinking tea?, we then beat Brighton and then Huddersfield,according to everyone we were lucky?, define lucky?, did you miss loads of chances? NO did your players perform like they did against Brighton?NO why?, because we've got one of the best managers in world football. As for spending millions ?, that's what very big clubs do,one of the best fan bases in Europe and the stadium up with the best in the premier league?, yes we've been relegated twice in the last 8years but this is because of mismanagement and shite players who didn't give a damn, we now have players who are proud to wear the shirt and see the toon as there only team not a stepping stone for so called bigger things?. Yes we have spent millions but we sold 15 players with a balance of 30 million in the bank and signed 13 players and stand 5 points clear in the championship,all of this is down to 1 man take a bow Rafa. Ah yes. The same Rafa that couldn't save you from relegation last year despite having a top 10 budget. Take a bow Rafa indeed. |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 16:30:34 GMT 1
His tactics were to soak up pressure then hit you on the break. As for getting luck, we are. I could also point to as many games where we haven't got the luck and the luck has gone the other way. Forest away is a prime example and it's a game which unsettled us for weeks as everybody at the club felt hard done by. Ah yes, that Forest game, the one where you were unlucky. But even that debacle had a silver lining, I recall, what with both your red cards being rescinded. Please can you explain how a fellow can successfully appeal against a sending off for repeatedly kicking another player in the head? We certainly couldn't afford Newcastle's lawyer. I don't see the FA righting the wrongs as much of a silver lining, we dropped 3 points when we shouldn't have and the players would never have been sent off in the first place and the incorrect penalties weren't rescinded. I don't know what you're referring to about the repeated kicking in the head. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 5, 2017 16:32:13 GMT 1
Three lucky goals, two of which arguably shouldn't have stood, a soft ref who let them get away with fouling Brown every time he got the ball, the amount of possession we had in good areas and you conclude the better team won? Makes no sense, yes they were solid but they should be, they're top of the league, the only reason we are praising their defensive performance is because they weren't allowed to pose a threat offensively because they couldn't get the ball.
Next you'll be telling us rafa planned on getting the spawny goals and that was part of the game plan also, maybe they allowed Kachunga to win the pen also to make it more interesting and maybe they decided to try and get both their centre midfielders sent off to make it more entertaining.
Take the lucky goals away and you have a different game all together, might have finished 0-0, we might have won as they may have been a bit more open or they may have but I'm sorry concluding they were the better team because we only scored one goal against them is bollocks.
They're a very good team, as are town, they're also very lucky at the moment which is why they won yesterday. The ref played a big part also, that's a fact.
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 16:33:33 GMT 1
No we didn't hit you on the break with slick passing football but I do think that it was a tactical victory by Rafa, he's a top manager, the best in the league by miles. Why? because he has the team that was put together with VASTLY more money than anyone else at the top? Would he be doing as good a job at Town as wagner is with the same inherited squad and same budget?? Would he hell!! And how was it a tactical victory? You just admitted you didn't play counterattacking football. So his tactical victory was that he planned to be handed 2 goals by mistakes and desperately cling on? You're talking shite mate. How are Norwich and Villa doing? No idea what he would do with your squad other than that I think he would do a good job for you and he would make the most of what he had. I didn't admit that we didn't play counter attacking football, I've maintained that we did. What I said was that we didn't do it with slick passing football. |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 16:35:54 GMT 1
No we didn't hit you on the break with slick passing football but I do think that it was a tactical victory by Rafa, he's a top manager, the best in the league by miles. I so don't want to sound bitter and you've been one of the best opposition fans, but 'best in the league by miles'...... Seriously, what a load of bullshit. He's going into a war with men equipped with machine guns against men using muskets. Makes his job a little bit easier. You can look at a lot of teams who don't perform as well as they should, Rafa has us doing an efficient job and he's doing what he was brought in to do, get us promotion. |
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Post by araucaria on Mar 5, 2017 16:35:55 GMT 1
Ah yes, that Forest game, the one where you were unlucky. But even that debacle had a silver lining, I recall, what with both your red cards being rescinded. Please can you explain how a fellow can successfully appeal against a sending off for repeatedly kicking another player in the head? We certainly couldn't afford Newcastle's lawyer. I don't see the FA righting the wrongs as much of a silver lining, we dropped 3 points when we shouldn't have and the players would never have been sent off in the first place and the incorrect penalties weren't rescinded. I don't know what you're referring to about the repeated kicking in the head. Then I must have seen someone other than Shelvey kicking Henri Lansbury in the head. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 5, 2017 16:36:33 GMT 1
Like I said we played Brighton on Tuesday when your players were sitting in the house drinking tea?, we then beat Brighton and then Huddersfield,according to everyone we were lucky?, define lucky?, did you miss loads of chances? NO did your players perform like they did against Brighton?NO why?, because we've got one of the best managers in world football. As for spending millions ?, that's what very big clubs do,one of the best fan bases in Europe and the stadium up with the best in the premier league?, yes we've been relegated twice in the last 8years but this is because of mismanagement and shite players who didn't give a damn, we now have players who are proud to wear the shirt and see the toon as there only team not a stepping stone for so called bigger things?. Yes we have spent millions but we sold 15 players with a balance of 30 million in the bank and signed 13 players and stand 5 points clear in the championship,all of this is down to 1 man take a bow Rafa. The goal you scored against Brighton is the definition of lucky you clown  As were both your goals yesterday to a lesser extent. I've not seen much else of you this season so not sure if you've been allowed to bring your own ref for every game but that was also a big factor yesterday. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 5, 2017 16:37:35 GMT 1
Why? because he has the team that was put together with VASTLY more money than anyone else at the top? Would he be doing as good a job at Town as wagner is with the same inherited squad and same budget?? Would he hell!! And how was it a tactical victory? You just admitted you didn't play counterattacking football. So his tactical victory was that he planned to be handed 2 goals by mistakes and desperately cling on? You're talking shite mate. How are Norwich and Villa doing? Â No idea what he would do with your squad other than that I think he would do a good job for you and he would make the most of what he had. I didn't admit that we didn't play counter attacking football, I've maintained that we did. Â What I said was that we didn't do it with slick passing football. Newcastle are a good side with quality players for this division but I guarantee those tactics will see you relegated from the premier league again as better teams than us would pick you apart |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 16:40:22 GMT 1
Like I said we played Brighton on Tuesday when your players were sitting in the house drinking tea?, we then beat Brighton and then Huddersfield,according to everyone we were lucky?, define lucky?, did you miss loads of chances? NO did your players perform like they did against Brighton?NO why?, because we've got one of the best managers in world football. As for spending millions ?, that's what very big clubs do,one of the best fan bases in Europe and the stadium up with the best in the premier league?, yes we've been relegated twice in the last 8years but this is because of mismanagement and shite players who didn't give a damn, we now have players who are proud to wear the shirt and see the toon as there only team not a stepping stone for so called bigger things?. Yes we have spent millions but we sold 15 players with a balance of 30 million in the bank and signed 13 players and stand 5 points clear in the championship,all of this is down to 1 man take a bow Rafa. Ah yes. The same Rafa that couldn't save you from relegation last year despite having a top 10 budget. Take a bow Rafa indeed. The club was a shambles when we appointed Rafa, teams are usually doing poorly when they sack a manager and we were no exception. It took him 3 games to turn it around and we were unbeaten in our last 7 games of the season which included beating Spurs who were 2nd in the league at that time 5-1. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 5, 2017 16:41:17 GMT 1
Why? because he has the team that was put together with VASTLY more money than anyone else at the top? Would he be doing as good a job at Town as wagner is with the same inherited squad and same budget?? Would he hell!! And how was it a tactical victory? You just admitted you didn't play counterattacking football. So his tactical victory was that he planned to be handed 2 goals by mistakes and desperately cling on? You're talking shite mate. How are Norwich and Villa doing? No idea what he would do with your squad other than that I think he would do a good job for you and he would make the most of what he had. I didn't admit that we didn't play counter attacking football, I've maintained that we did. What I said was that we didn't do it with slick passing football. What is counterattacking football then in your eyes? Hoofing it long? Wow- genius tactics Rafa!! You said he got his tactics right.. yet you don't seem to know what they were- other than relying on mistakes and hanging on. You were outplayed, got the lucky breaks and defended manfully. Nowt wrong with that, but please stop trying to pretend that was down to some genuis by your manager. Its horseshit. Do you really think hed do as good a job at town as Wagners done? seriously?!! Youve been a good poster but you're showing a lack of honesty and humility now in my opinion |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 16:43:15 GMT 1
Three lucky goals, two of which arguably shouldn't have stood, a soft ref who let them get away with fouling Brown every time he got the ball, the amount of possession we had in good areas and you conclude the better team won? Makes no sense, yes they were solid but they should be, they're top of the league, the only reason we are praising their defensive performance is because they weren't allowed to pose a threat offensively because they couldn't get the ball. Next you'll be telling us rafa planned on getting the spawny goals and that was part of the game plan also, maybe they allowed Kachunga to win the pen also to make it more interesting and maybe they decided to try and get both their centre midfielders sent off to make it more entertaining. Take the lucky goals away and you have a different game all together, might have finished 0-0, we might have won as they may have been a bit more open or they may have but I'm sorry concluding they were the better team because we only scored one goal against them is bollocks. They're a very good team, as are town, they're also very lucky at the moment which is why they won yesterday. The ref played a big part also, that's a fact. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards I keep hearing how this ref was soft on us, we committed 68% of the fouls yet received 83% of the cards. Maybe he wasn't as soft on Newcastle as you think, maybe it's just easy to blame the referee. |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 16:44:16 GMT 1
I don't see the FA righting the wrongs as much of a silver lining, we dropped 3 points when we shouldn't have and the players would never have been sent off in the first place and the incorrect penalties weren't rescinded. I don't know what you're referring to about the repeated kicking in the head. Then I must have seen someone other than Shelvey kicking Henri Lansbury in the head. How many times did he do that? |
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Post by paullow1 on Mar 5, 2017 16:46:48 GMT 1
Got to say I was very impressed with Huddersfield yesterday, we were on the back foot for pretty much the whole game and while you may have been restricted largely to long range efforts, it was a very nervy game (for me) and seemed to go on for ages due to the constant pressure. Obviously you'll kind of expect it away to the likes of City, Chelsea etc, but i can't remember a game, certainly in the second tier (in our 2 spells in my time) where we've hardly had the ball and had to soak up so much pressure and territorial advantage. I'll certainly be watching your 3 future Sky games as I've been very impressed with the last 4 Sky league games i've seen from you (i missed the Wigan defeat and can't really remember the earlier televised Sheff Wed game) and I do genuinely hope you seal promotion whether it is automatic of through the playoffs. As for Newcastle, not taking anything for granted just yet as it is feasible we could end up with 0, 1 or 2 points from these next 2 games and then 5 and 11 point leads can dwindle in no time, but at the same time, I would be very shocked and disappointed if we didn;t go up from this position and I think you'd probably have to win about 10 of your last 12 to have a chance. Still not bothered about the title despite the 5 point gap as there's not much more advantage finishing 1st or 2nd, we basically need to go up and i don;t mind how it happens. Still not at a stage of hoping you win because of the points mentioned above but there are still some huge games coming up. Leeds play Brighton before the international break which i'm sure we will both have a firm eye on. April will be a huge month with about 7 games for most, we obviously have strength in depth after our well documented spending, and you do too as your cup run proved and players like Quanner, Payne, Billing, Lolley can all come in and not be of detriment to team, plus Palmer to come back for competition with Brown - and i'm not sure Brighton have the same strength, plus it looked like they picked up a couple of injuries yesterday. I think the 3 of us have shown we are clearly the best in this league and it would be a shame if all 3 didn't come up. An excellent post. The point about strength in depth is a good one. I think that our 'cup' team proved, not only by becoming only the sixth team this season to shut out Man City but by winning 4-0 at Rochdale while your reserves were losing at Oxford and Brighton's at Lincoln, that we've got 22 players who can do a job at this level. But the lazy pundits were at it again last Tuesday: 'these are the two strongest squads in the league'. [If only you had appointed the genius that is Rafa a few matches sooner last season, we would almost certainly now be sitting pretty in second place as Sunderland began their now traditional two or more attempts to get out of this league. I've no doubt that you, at least, will be swapping places with them this time.] Yeah, Rafa is the best thing to happen to this club for a long long time, i just hope he stays with us next season which is far from certain at this stage. Agree exactly with your point of bringing him in earlier. Many wanted McClaren gone long before, but the 5-1 defeat at Chelsea (3 games earlier) was the obvious time to get rid if that's what the board were looking at which they clearly were. We won't be the first to lose heavily at Chelsea but he just looked so clueless on the sidelines when the TV camera zoned in on him. He got sacked 2 games later, but instead of having your first game away at Leicester the future champs, he could have come in when i mentioned as we had a 2 week break due to the FA Cup and then have Stoke (A) as his first game and be in a position to really attack Bournemouth in the next home game which proved to be Steve's last game in a 1-3 defeat. We did pretty well under Rafa last season, won 3 of his 10 games (13 points) and went unbeaten in the last 6, it was just too late as you say. Yesterday was the best set of results on a Saturday that i can remember for a long time. Most importantly, we won and Brighton lost, but Leicester, Palace and Swansea all won as well and it's hard to look past the current bottom 3 to drop this season and Sunderland should finally be put out of their misery - they are in so much debt as well, so unlike us, won't really be in a position to spend heavily, even if they do sell their very few assets (Pickford, Kone etc) for big money. Apparently Defoe can leave for free if they go down. Watch them beat City now, ha. |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 16:49:46 GMT 1
How are Norwich and Villa doing? No idea what he would do with your squad other than that I think he would do a good job for you and he would make the most of what he had. I didn't admit that we didn't play counter attacking football, I've maintained that we did. What I said was that we didn't do it with slick passing football. Newcastle are a good side with quality players for this division but I guarantee those tactics will see you relegated from the premier league again as better teams than us would pick you apart We're not playing in the Premiership and if we do go up we'll have a few different players so you can't guarantee anything. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. We played Hull away in the cup and we didn't play that way, we were the better team and lost on penalties at their ground. At this stage of the season the points are more important than the performances and we haven't played the way that we did against you when we've been playing other teams. Rafa adapted and came up with a winning formula, it seems that when Rafa does something it's a fluke but when your manager does something it's a good plan. |
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Post by maggymay on Mar 5, 2017 16:52:38 GMT 1
Three lucky goals, two of which arguably shouldn't have stood, a soft ref who let them get away with fouling Brown every time he got the ball, the amount of possession we had in good areas and you conclude the better team won? Makes no sense, yes they were solid but they should be, they're top of the league, the only reason we are praising their defensive performance is because they weren't allowed to pose a threat offensively because they couldn't get the ball. Next you'll be telling us rafa planned on getting the spawny goals and that was part of the game plan also, maybe they allowed Kachunga to win the pen also to make it more interesting and maybe they decided to try and get both their centre midfielders sent off to make it more entertaining. Take the lucky goals away and you have a different game all together, might have finished 0-0, we might have won as they may have been a bit more open or they may have but I'm sorry concluding they were the better team because we only scored one goal against them is bollocks. They're a very good team, as are town, they're also very lucky at the moment which is why they won yesterday. The ref played a big part also, that's a fact. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards I keep hearing how this ref was soft on us, we committed 68% of the fouls yet received 83% of the cards. Maybe he wasn't as soft on Newcastle as you think, maybe it's just easy to blame the referee. |
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Post by midge on Mar 5, 2017 16:55:11 GMT 1
Three lucky goals, two of which arguably shouldn't have stood, a soft ref who let them get away with fouling Brown every time he got the ball, the amount of possession we had in good areas and you conclude the better team won? Makes no sense, yes they were solid but they should be, they're top of the league, the only reason we are praising their defensive performance is because they weren't allowed to pose a threat offensively because they couldn't get the ball. Next you'll be telling us rafa planned on getting the spawny goals and that was part of the game plan also, maybe they allowed Kachunga to win the pen also to make it more interesting and maybe they decided to try and get both their centre midfielders sent off to make it more entertaining. Take the lucky goals away and you have a different game all together, might have finished 0-0, we might have won as they may have been a bit more open or they may have but I'm sorry concluding they were the better team because we only scored one goal against them is bollocks. They're a very good team, as are town, they're also very lucky at the moment which is why they won yesterday. The ref played a big part also, that's a fact. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards I keep hearing how this ref was soft on us, we committed 68% of the fouls yet received 83% of the cards. Maybe he wasn't as soft on Newcastle as you think, maybe it's just easy to blame the referee. ....and when you win away it's easy to claim that it's the 'perfect away performance' and that your manager is a tactical genius when the truth is actually that key moments in the game went your way! Personally, if my team was been paid as much I would be worried that they could barely string 2 passes together!!! Good luck to you and if the boot was on the other foot I would take it but it seems that you are making it out to be down to things that it certainly isn't!? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 16:56:48 GMT 1
I think we lost because we were unable to break down a resolute defence. If we continue to play high pressing possession football we will find we are faced with a defensive cautious approach with a desire to counter attack when possible. The secret is out of the bag we are a known and dangerous quantity. We may as well get used to it, we also lack a lethal goalscorer who can convert an opportunity into a goal ( we need "son of marcus stewart" but at our budget or similar !) The refereeing decisions werent great but that isnt going to change and luck will do what it wants - if we play at a higher level next year i doubt we will like the reffing or enjoy any better luck. We need to learn how to break teams down and quick.- i do not know how to do this maybe DW does i bet he will have learnt loads from this. Newcastle did well enough they would have been happy with a point but hit the jackpot. They struggled in the prem last time out and im sure they will again because they are simply a collection of decent players not great just decent. Rafa has managed some top top clubs in his time this aint one of them (yes im a little bitter that we lost ) but hey ho I expect Villa to defend deep on tuesday too the entire division have been wondering how to beat us and they now know.  |
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Post by rocky on Mar 5, 2017 16:58:03 GMT 1
Did you hit us on the break with slick passing movements then? Not in the slightest. The ref and our keeper handed you a very undeserved 2 goal cushion and you clung on to it by parking the bus. fair enough but don't try and make out it was a tactical victory for benitez. He got very lucky ( again) No we didn't hit you on the break with slick passing football but I do think that it was a tactical victory by Rafa, he's a top manager, the best in the league by miles. Best manager? Don't you mean biggest budget. If you're looking for the best manager tag, look no further than Wagner. Performing minor miracles on a tiny budget compared to most in the division. |
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Post by ACW on Mar 5, 2017 16:58:57 GMT 1
Stop whinging,you got beat of a team better not just on the day but all season,top goal scorers ,least goals conceded ,most wins ,you have potentially a good team and a good manager, but that's all it is?. Rafa is the best manager outside the premier league and got his tactics spot on,you might have had the majority of possession but that was balls played across your own box and halfway line?.you will be found out very quickly when your up against good sides like yesterday and when you play villa, don't be so naive to suggest Huddersfield are the best team in the league after yesterday's performance?,we've had our top goal scorer missing for nearly 2 months and still have won games, we are we're we are because of rafas tactics and the players performing week after week,and let's not forget we played brighton away on Tuesday when your reserves were playing city so if we tired it was acceptable what's your excuse?. You're still a set off hoof it merchants. Good luck in the Premier playing like that. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 5, 2017 16:59:04 GMT 1
Newcastle are a good side with quality players for this division but I guarantee those tactics will see you relegated from the premier league again as better teams than us would pick you apart We're not playing in the Premiership and if we do go up we'll have a few different players so you can't guarantee anything. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. We played Hull away in the cup and we didn't play that way, we were the better team and lost on penalties at their ground. At this stage of the season the points are more important than the performances and we haven't played the way that we did against you when we've been playing other teams. Rafa adapted and came up with a winning formula, it seems that when Rafa does something it's a fluke but when your manager does something it's a good plan. I love the way it doesn't even occur to you that how a game goes is not entirely down to newcastle and how they and your manager choose to have it go. That a game might have gone a certain way outside of your control. Its a wonder other managers haven't adapted rafas formula of getting mistakes to go in their team favour. seriously, can you just not fuck off now? Your fake humility has got tiresome. |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 16:59:48 GMT 1
How are Norwich and Villa doing? No idea what he would do with your squad other than that I think he would do a good job for you and he would make the most of what he had. I didn't admit that we didn't play counter attacking football, I've maintained that we did. What I said was that we didn't do it with slick passing football. What is counterattacking football then in your eyes? Hoofing it long? Wow- genius tactics Rafa!! You said he got his tactics right.. yet you don't seem to know what they were- other than relying on mistakes and hanging on. You were outplayed, got the lucky breaks and defended manfully. Nowt wrong with that, but please stop trying to pretend that was down to some genuis by your manager. Its horseshit. Do you really think hed do as good a job at town as Wagners done? seriously?!! Youve been a good poster but you're showing a lack of honesty and humility now in my opinion Counter attacking football is when you defend on mass and hit the opposition on the break which we did. How you attack is irrelevant, it could be a series of slick passes or it could be hoofing it long with a ball over the top. No way did he say to the players "just hoof it", the players take his instructions and they have to carry them out the way they see fit at that time. I haven't said at any time that you didn't play well yesterday, you did play well. I haven't said at any time that you don't have a good manager, you have a good manager. What Rafa would do is something I can't comment on in detail as it's hypothetical, I think it's safe to say that he would do the best job that he could do and he would get the most out of games for you the way he has for us. I don't know how that would work, I would guess that you wouldn't be as free flowing going forward and tougher to beat at the back, at a guess. |
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Post by leez on Mar 5, 2017 17:05:27 GMT 1
They'll be coming straight back down using those tactics next season, no doubt about it. Better teams would pick them apart. . We. Will have loads of new players by then. Think about it. Back where we belong. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 17:07:30 GMT 1
Newcastle are a good side with quality players for this division but I guarantee those tactics will see you relegated from the premier league again as better teams than us would pick you apart We're not playing in the Premiership and if we do go up we'll have a few different players so you can't guarantee anything. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. We played Hull away in the cup and we didn't play that way, we were the better team and lost on penalties at their ground. At this stage of the season the points are more important than the performances and we haven't played the way that we did against you when we've been playing other teams. Rafa adapted and came up with a winning formula, it seems that when Rafa does something it's a fluke but when your manager does something it's a good plan. I agree you set up differently to how you would normally because of who we are and how we play it achieved the desired effect, im disappointed that we couldnt break you down and early too. We might have been able to dish out what we dished out to Brighton. Maybe Rafa would have had to revert to your normal game but we will sadly never know. We need to be smarter and more clinical. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 5, 2017 17:07:50 GMT 1
I so don't want to sound bitter and you've been one of the best opposition fans, but 'best in the league by miles'...... Seriously, what a load of bullshit. He's going into a war with men equipped with machine guns against men using muskets. Makes his job a little bit easier. You can look at a lot of teams who don't perform as well as they should, Rafa has us doing an efficient job and he's doing what he was brought in to do, get us promotion. Agree, I'm not really knocking him, but not having your exaggerated claim either. Getting you promoted with his resources won't necessarily make him the best manager in the division, let alone by miles. |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 17:08:10 GMT 1
We're not playing in the Premiership and if we do go up we'll have a few different players so you can't guarantee anything. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. We played Hull away in the cup and we didn't play that way, we were the better team and lost on penalties at their ground. At this stage of the season the points are more important than the performances and we haven't played the way that we did against you when we've been playing other teams. Rafa adapted and came up with a winning formula, it seems that when Rafa does something it's a fluke but when your manager does something it's a good plan. That a game might have gone a certain way outside of your control. Its a wonder other managers haven't adapted rafas formula of getting mistakes to go in their team favour. seriously, can you just not fuck off now? Your fake humility has got tiresome. I like sarcasm when it's delivered well, you've totally failed with it though. |
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Post by maggymay on Mar 5, 2017 17:08:57 GMT 1
How is it some of you think you know more than your own manager?!!!, in the Newcastle press today and I quote Newcastle are a very good team and Rafa is a brilliant manager!!!, why do you think he's saying that ?, it could be he's champion league winner? Or European cup winner?, or twice league winner with a team outside the top 2 of Barcelona & Real Madrid ?,or could it be that Rafa is a really good manager & tactician who Wagner knows he has a long way to go before he's mentioned in the same breath?.
I can only think that some of these ridiculous posts about the toon been lucky and Huddersfield were brilliant is that some of the key board warriors have never as much kicked a real football in there lives?!!, before you ask yes I have 20 yrs a player & many years a manager,this doesn't make me right but I would like to think I say it as I see it, Huddersfield are a credit to the championship and it won't be long before there in the premier league, but please stop whinging on about luck!!! Like bill shankly said in life & football you make your own luck?.
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 17:13:41 GMT 1
We're not playing in the Premiership and if we do go up we'll have a few different players so you can't guarantee anything. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. We played Hull away in the cup and we didn't play that way, we were the better team and lost on penalties at their ground. At this stage of the season the points are more important than the performances and we haven't played the way that we did against you when we've been playing other teams. Rafa adapted and came up with a winning formula, it seems that when Rafa does something it's a fluke but when your manager does something it's a good plan. I agree you set up differently to how you would normally because of who we are and how we play it achieved the desired effect, im disappointed that we couldnt break you down and early too. We might have been able to dish out what we dished out to Brighton. Maybe Rafa would have had to revert to your normal game but we will sadly never know. We need to be smarter and more clinical. I'm sure you'll learn from yesterday and will work on it, sometimes you have to take a step back to go forward. |
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Post by araucaria on Mar 5, 2017 17:15:57 GMT 1
Then I must have seen someone other than Shelvey kicking Henri Lansbury in the head. How many times did he do that? He had three or four goes at back-heeling him and appeared to connect with two, perhaps. But, usually, one kick is enough eg Beckham v Argentina. Have I really imagined this? Anyway, while you maybe consider a reply, please add a goalkeeper to this list of bad boys that Newcastle have employed in the past, with any additions I may have missed: Tino Asprilla Lee Bowyer Jonathan Woodgate Duncan Disorderly David Batty Micky Quinn Nile Ranger Craig Bellamy Joey Barton Paul Gascoigne Manager: Supermac (I know he didn't manage you, but he did manage us, although he has no recollection of it) Chairman: Mr Ashley. Rather top heavy with attackers and just try getting past that midfield without one of Tino's machine guns. Leaving out your former youth player who got 40 years for leading the heroin ring was deliberate. I also have a list of Huddersfield Town bad boys from 1964 onwards: Facey, D |
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Post by itsmemick on Mar 5, 2017 17:18:51 GMT 1
You can look at a lot of teams who don't perform as well as they should, Rafa has us doing an efficient job and he's doing what he was brought in to do, get us promotion. Agree, I'm not really knocking him, but not having your exaggerated claim either. Getting you promoted with his resources won't necessarily make him the best manager in the division, let alone by miles. His (Rafa) CV suggests that he is the best, it's not just what he's doing now. Resources are no good in the wrong hands as can be seen in most leagues and it's a good thing that resources aren't the be all and end all or life in football would be boring. Wagner could go on to be better and win more in the game, at the minute he's a rookie manager who is doing a great job for you and I hope that you enjoy the ride. |
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Post by tonytiler on Mar 5, 2017 17:22:47 GMT 1
Reading all this with interest!!
Disappointed yesterday I thought we deserved more than we got but the hard facts are this,you look at the stats of the game and it shows all the things in there that's occurred in many of our games this season,Dominance with the ball.It also shows a lot of attempts and shots on target far more than Newcastle had throughout this match.
David Wagner has done with this team that I don't think no other manager could,given his amount of experience and with the budget he had to spend.And that includes Benitez or any other manager who has managed at the level he has.We seem to have nearly everything right to now get out of this division,I say nearly because the one thing that now needs some polish is finishing all the chances we have in games.This is now the business end of the season and despite the result yesterday it's been a bloody good one so far,these sort of opportuintys don't come by every season and this could be are only chance for a while to capitalise on it.So thanks Dave for what you have done for our club and made us a serious competitor in this division,please now ffs get these players hitting the target and making more of all the possession we have in the majority of the games then we may find ourselves playing Newcastle and the likes again next season only a Division higher UTT.
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As were both your goals yesterday to a lesser extent.
