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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Mar 30, 2021 14:02:52 GMT 1
Amazingly it was on a Birstall ancestry website I’ve come across. Almost at the bottom of the attached there is a link to Kirklees Image Archive. The pic is on there. maggieblanck.com/Land/PhotosBirstall.htmlSome amazing Turton originals on there. I'll be getting those printed up! Worth it then and some research for you to do.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Mar 31, 2021 11:58:43 GMT 1
Right! I've nabbed lots of images from that website; cheers epsom!! Of major/humorous interest - to me, anyway - is this photograph of Fred Bullock with his trousers on and braces rolled-down. Clearly that's the way that all of these photographs were taken, but it's amusing nevertheless.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Mar 31, 2021 12:18:35 GMT 1
I've had a good look at this photo now, and have to admit defeat. It looks like it might be a Reserves line-up, but it's hard to recognise anybody on there, except possibly N. Slicer sitting second right. Standing at the back 2nd left is William Hardcastle, Town Chairman until 1920, so that helps to date it a little. I do not recognise the trophy either, which is unhelpful; it's definitely not a major one, neither is it one of the West Riding Cup, Central League Championship Cup, or even the Hospital Cup. Stumped.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Mar 31, 2021 13:53:22 GMT 1
I've had a good look at this photo now, and have to admit defeat. It looks like it might be a Reserves line-up, but it's hard to recognise anybody on there, except possibly N. Slicer sitting second right. Standing at the back 2nd left is William Hardcastle, Town Chairman until 1920, so that helps to date it a little. I do not recognise the trophy either, which is unhelpful; it's definitely not a major one, neither is it one of the West Riding Cup, Central League Championship Cup, or even the Hospital Cup. Stumped. Strange that Kirklees Images chose that pic then. Have you ever looked at archive records of the Examiner and other papers in Huddersfield library from that era? Maybe contact the club?
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Mar 31, 2021 14:32:02 GMT 1
I've had a good look at this photo now, and have to admit defeat. It looks like it might be a Reserves line-up, but it's hard to recognise anybody on there, except possibly N. Slicer sitting second right. Standing at the back 2nd left is William Hardcastle, Town Chairman until 1920, so that helps to date it a little. I do not recognise the trophy either, which is unhelpful; it's definitely not a major one, neither is it one of the West Riding Cup, Central League Championship Cup, or even the Hospital Cup. Stumped. Strange that Kirklees Images chose that pic then. Have you ever looked at archive records of the Examiner and other papers in Huddersfield library from that era? Maybe contact the club? Remember that I'm nowhere near Huddersfield except for match days, so a visit to the library is out of the question. As far as I'm aware, their archive cannot be accessed online. I'll try a couple of Town historians that I know.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Mar 31, 2021 14:58:26 GMT 1
Strange that Kirklees Images chose that pic then. Have you ever looked at archive records of the Examiner and other papers in Huddersfield library from that era? Maybe contact the club? Remember that I'm nowhere near Huddersfield except for match days, so a visit to the library is out of the question. As far as I'm aware, their archive cannot be accessed online. I'll try a couple of Town historians that I know. Yeah, I know, but I guess you could go there for a couple of hours before a game when we can go back. I’m a member of the British Library at St. Pancras and have often gone there to get the Examiner and other papers. You can also see them at Boston Spa. They’re gradually digitising their entire records. I haven’t checked for a long time but they could have some Examiner copies done by now.
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Post by artysid on Mar 31, 2021 20:34:46 GMT 1
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Mar 31, 2021 20:51:40 GMT 1
Yes, I saw that when it first cropped up. About £1 a card is about right, and you have to remember that you're getting a - rare - album leaf too here. So a tenner plus £4 post isn't out of the ball-park. I've got all of them, as well as various loose leaves and an album. I'm busy chasing the medium sized cards and the postcard sized Cabinet cards; rare as rocking horse poop.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 1, 2021 9:02:20 GMT 1
My latest newsletter - #66 - is now available. You can read it HERE.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 7, 2021 11:57:00 GMT 1
That photo... It appears on page 306 of 100 Years: All That's Worth Knowing. No identification of players though. The caption reads " A young Town team from the early 1920s which probably won the Yorkshire Mid-Week League". I have been in touch with fellow Town historian, Alan Hodgson whom you might know from his regular contributions to the Town programme. Anyway, he says... "After some research I have found the following. Firstly though, I think we can confidently state that the main man on the photo is indeed W L Hardcastle who was presumably still a regular figure at Leeds Road even after retiring as chairman in late 1920. I also agree with you that Norman Smith is pictured. He came to the club in April 1923 from Mickley FC.
The Yorkshire Mid-Week League started in 1922/23 with ten members (TOWN, Bradford PA, Bradford City, Leeds Utd, Sheffield Utd, Sheffield Wed, Halifax Town, Barnsley, Rotherham County and Hull City).
In 1923/24 Doncaster Rovers replaced Sheffield United who withdrew, and this was the season that Huddersfield Town ‘A’ finished as champions. They clinched the title on Easter Monday 1924, April 21st, beating Sheffield Wednesday 7-1 at home after going a goal behind. The scorers were A W Smith (3), Cook (2), Johnston and White. It was enough to give them the advantage over runners-up Doncaster Rovers on goal average!
Of the scorers mentioned A W ‘Bertie’ Smith had been signed in April 1922, G W ‘Billy’ Cook in May 1923, and W G ‘Billy’ Johnston in November 1920. All of course went on to play in the first team. I believe the other player to be R N ‘Bob’ White who never made the Town first team but went on to play for Stoke, Tranmere Rovers, Wolves, Watford and Carlisle United.
A list of players names mentioned in reports at the time reads as follows: Cowell, Lilley, Bolton, Davies, Storey, AW Smith, Richardson, Bowstead, Roberts, Johnston, Johnson, Langham, Boot, Brown, Barkas, Gray, Crapper, Felstone, Cawthorne, Walter, White, Holland. Some are familiar as later first teamers."
So we're not actually any closer to identifying the people other than the two I had picked out initially, Hardcastle (tubby chap at the back behind the goalkeeper) and Norman Smith (second right, front row). Done our best, mind...
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 1, 2021 10:05:43 GMT 1
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Sept 1, 2021 9:09:00 GMT 1
Newsletter #71 (September) now available HERE.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 1, 2021 9:13:28 GMT 1
Newsletter #72 now available HERE.
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