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Post by imissmarcus on Apr 15, 2018 10:19:17 GMT 1
Adama Traore at Boro looks good when I have seen him. Good shout, highly erratic and doesn't seem the brightest but would give us something completely different. Also take a look at Allan Saint Maxim at Nice, very similar in skills and limitations. I know they are a decent level club but we would be offering better wages than mid-table Ligue 1?
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 15, 2018 10:28:00 GMT 1
Some comedy suggestions on here, we're trying to build a PL squad not a championship one.
The best signings we make will be the ones that no bugger on here has mentioned or even heard of.
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Post by drewden on Apr 15, 2018 10:34:30 GMT 1
Danny Ings springs to mind, would be my player, to add to the squad.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Apr 15, 2018 10:44:09 GMT 1
Has he got the legs to play in our system. Don't think DW is going to change it so if Snodgrass can't get back to do the hard yards then he wouldn't go for him, no matter how good he is round the box. saw him the other day,and he definatley has some legs,think it was two A bit bandy though.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 15, 2018 10:56:54 GMT 1
I think we need to set our standards a little higher than some of the names mentioned so far if we want to push on next year (assuming we stay up). Brunt, Snodgrass, Allan, Long, surely we can do better than that even with our budget. All of those players would get in our first team If we want to involve ourselves in another relegation struggle they might but if we want to push on then we need better.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 15, 2018 11:05:57 GMT 1
The obvious area to improve is the 3 behind the striker, all our current players there are good standard, top end, Championship players but the lack of assists and goals, from whoever has played there, has been telling.
We will need a first choice LB, assuming we cannot keep Terry K, I'd keep Lowe as a backup and try to recoup money spent on Malone.
Finally, this won't be popular, but we need a better version of Hogg, as while you cannot fault his effort and tackling, more is required of even a defensive midfielder today and his passing and shooting is not up to mid table premier league standard. I love what he's done for us, he was absolutely pivotal on getting us where we are today, but we need more if we are to kick on next season, he'd be a great back up though.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Apr 15, 2018 11:16:17 GMT 1
The obvious area to improve is the 3 behind the striker, all our current players there are good standard, top end, Championship players but the lack of assists and goals, from whoever has played there, has been telling. We will need a first choice LB, assuming we cannot keep Terry K, I'd keep Lowe as a backup and try to recoup money spent on Malone. Finally, this won't be popular, but we need a better version of Hogg, as while you cannot fault his effort and tackling, more is required of even a defensive midfielder today and his passing and shooting is not up to mid table premier league standard. I love what he's done for us, he was absolutely pivotal on getting us where we are today, but we need more if we are to kick on next season, he'd be a great back up though. Think centre mid is fine for next season, there are other positions that are more of a priority: Left back Left wing Number 10 Right wing And possibly right back We need quality rather than quantity so each of those players will cost a fair bit. Think an upgrade on Hogg is a nice to have.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 11:18:04 GMT 1
Bertrand? The England left back currently being eyed up by Spurs, Man City and Utd? The guy who signed a 5 year deal on £80k a week in 2016? OK.
I’d expect either folk we haven’t heard of or top end (though not the best) Championship players.
Wingers are top of the list for me, along with cover at CB & a LB.
Kongolo is a very good player but I’m not sure he suits our style - we like fullbacks to overlap, he is more of a CB/LB for me. Class player but maybe not a square peg for a square hole?
A back 3 of him, CS and Zanka would be superb if we tweaked formation a little. We’d need a LWB and another CM for such a system.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 15, 2018 11:22:18 GMT 1
The obvious area to improve is the 3 behind the striker, all our current players there are good standard, top end, Championship players but the lack of assists and goals, from whoever has played there, has been telling. We will need a first choice LB, assuming we cannot keep Terry K, I'd keep Lowe as a backup and try to recoup money spent on Malone. Finally, this won't be popular, but we need a better version of Hogg, as while you cannot fault his effort and tackling, more is required of even a defensive midfielder today and his passing and shooting is not up to mid table premier league standard. I love what he's done for us, he was absolutely pivotal on getting us where we are today, but we need more if we are to kick on next season, he'd be a great back up though. The Hogg one is controversial and quite fundamental to the overall policy. Hogg has improved his overall play, but his shortcomings in possession are still fairly obvious, but his short back n sides/get stuck in persona, seems to let him off criticism others receive. However, we may upgrade in terms of talent, but would the new incumbent do the organising, jeeing up, put the same effort in, not hide when the going gets tough, etc. I'd suggest Hogg gets a few percent more out of those around him. If we stay up, it'll be interesting to see what we do in trying to improve the quality without ripping out the heart of the club, which is one of, if not the biggest differentiator between us and most of our peers. A real conundrum.
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Post by rogermellie on Apr 15, 2018 11:45:13 GMT 1
It's not as easy as just going out and spending more money on 'better' players; improvements in the team need to be made incrementally and at the right times so as not to upset the successful chemistry of the team. Players such as Hogg (and Heff) could certainly be improved upon in terms of ability but they offer other qualities that help build a better team around them. We are always going to be a poor relation in terms of quality in this division, but one thing we can compete at is togetherness, team spirit and effort. We should be carefully not to lose these qualities when recruiting.
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Post by charless on Apr 15, 2018 12:06:46 GMT 1
The single biggest weakness this season was an inability to score goals when on top of the opposition (especially when they are down to 10 men). We're always going to have a few matches where we get smashed in this league, but the key to having success is turning those opportunities into three points more consistently. Goalscoring is of course the most expensive thing to buy, but that's also the place we need the most improvement. Wingers who can cross and a couple of targets for set pieces might be a cheaper way to go?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 12:16:45 GMT 1
Yes I know I’m getting carried away and we aren’t safe yet but I’m on cloud 9 from this afternoons Ince winner and I’m already looking forward to next season. if we do avoid the drop tho, would you try take any players from the sides that go down at all? I’d love for us to make a enquiry for Nathan redmond fast direct and hasn’t started many games for saints, could be one of them players who Wagner could put his arm round and he could be brilliant for us. I would also be tempted to enquire about chris brunt purely for his set piece deliveries. There are obviously other players in there sides but these are more realistic than a Ryan Bertrand joint us lol As for outgoings I think we could well see these leaving Sabiri loan Stankovic loan Smith if a decent offer came in Rob green Quaner just don’t think he’s up to it at all What’s your views Utt YOU ARE RIGHT YOU AND MANY OTHERS ARE GETTING CARRIED AWAY THERE IS LOTS TO DO YET NEVER MIND ABOUT NEXT SEASON LETS GET THIS ONE FINISHED HOPEFULLY STILL IN THE PREM.Yesterday was a big step but lets keep focused and try and see the job through
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 15, 2018 12:23:51 GMT 1
Leo bittencourt from köln
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Apr 15, 2018 12:29:29 GMT 1
Two wide attacking midfielders, a left back and a goalkeeper should be the priorities in my opinion.
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Post by greyarea on Apr 15, 2018 12:29:32 GMT 1
I think we need to be objective about this. Under Wagner we have consistently signed players nearly everyone one of us have not heard of. Nearly every signing has turned out well and have been excellent additions. I think it is better to speculate about which positions we might recruit for rather than names.
I see us looking at:
Leftback position. Central midfield to compete with Hogg, Mooy, Williams and Billing. Wing positions. At least 1 player who is significantly a step up on RVLP, Collin, Kachunga and Ince. No10. To compete with Pritchard. It sepends what sort of development occurs with Siberi over the rest of the season and the summer.
I think strikers and Centreback positions are good enough. Schindler, Zanka, Hef and Stankovic are decent quartet while Mounie and Depoitire will score many more with better service.
I could see a young striker/prospect brought in or loaned in for development.
Also, if a big money move came in for any of our top players, and the player wanted to go, then we would not stand in the way. Then we would need to make sure we recruited for a replacement.
Lets make us safe first by getting that final win or the final point or two to definitely be safe.
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Post by yellowbelly on Apr 15, 2018 12:32:15 GMT 1
We seem to like a loan from Chelsea
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Post by wakeychris50 on Apr 15, 2018 12:38:30 GMT 1
most on here mention incommings well out goings as follows vlp cause he says we not big enough for him and we a stepping stone quanner loveable guy but no end product confuses himself and doesnt score enough or cross a ball his reaction time is slow shame but not prem standard malone been a complete waste of money dean whitehead as hes comming to end of career as for in comming need two wingers and a left back if tk goes but we trust wagner to solves these and not have any sentiment to keep certain players move some on and improve a little at a time
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Apr 15, 2018 12:41:32 GMT 1
“The DoF is working his notice and an announcement will be made when the season ends” - Dean Hoyle. Welcome back Ross Wilson? 👀👀👀 Really wouldn’t surprise me if this was the case and i’d be all for having him back.
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Post by rogermellie on Apr 15, 2018 12:48:40 GMT 1
Izzy Brown?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 12:49:19 GMT 1
Lets be honest, if we survive then we're going to be playing on the break again next season, so a couple of fast c**** that can stick the ball in the onion bag on a regular occurrence would be lovely.
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Post by TTCMatt on Apr 15, 2018 12:52:55 GMT 1
Welcome back Ross Wilson? 👀👀👀 Really wouldn’t surprise me if this was the case and i’d be all for having him back. He's not coming back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 13:06:10 GMT 1
Really wouldn’t surprise me if this was the case and i’d be all for having him back. He's not coming back. OK ALL Will be revealed as you with your comment know Wilson is not coming back? would you like to tell us how you know that? just asking
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 13:18:52 GMT 1
Be happy if we could get Kongolo in on loan for another season, and loan out Stankovic for some much needed game time. Wouldn't mind Loftus-Cheek on loan to replace retiring Whitehead. Promote Schofield to 3rd choice keeper when Green retires. Still a lot for us to do, a decent left back, an alternative striker, improvement on both wingers and another AM. Can see us needing 6-7 to be honest, and that's not even considering losing any of our best players.
Gonna be a bloody boring summer if we go down like.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Apr 15, 2018 13:21:30 GMT 1
The obvious area to improve is the 3 behind the striker, all our current players there are good standard, top end, Championship players but the lack of assists and goals, from whoever has played there, has been telling. We will need a first choice LB, assuming we cannot keep Terry K, I'd keep Lowe as a backup and try to recoup money spent on Malone. Finally, this won't be popular, but we need a better version of Hogg, as while you cannot fault his effort and tackling, more is required of even a defensive midfielder today and his passing and shooting is not up to mid table premier league standard. I love what he's done for us, he was absolutely pivotal on getting us where we are today, but we need more if we are to kick on next season, he'd be a great back up though. The Hogg one is controversial and quite fundamental to the overall policy. Hogg has improved his overall play, but his shortcomings in possession are still fairly obvious, but his short back n sides/get stuck in persona, seems to let him off criticism others receive. However, we may upgrade in terms of talent, but would the new incumbent do the organising, jeeing up, put the same effort in, not hide when the going gets tough, etc. I'd suggest Hogg gets a few percent more out of those around him. If we stay up, it'll be interesting to see what we do in trying to improve the quality without ripping out the heart of the club, which is one of, if not the biggest differentiator between us and most of our peers. A real conundrum. I also think people overlook the number of times that Hogg leads the press and we win the ball back, either by smothering the man on the ball with three men or him doubling up on the target man and taking it off his toes. It’s not a case of Hogg gets stuck in and runs around a lot so we should back him. He is positionally very astute and protects the centre backs brilliantly. His passing has also improved quite a bit since the start of the year, his floated balls out to the full backs are generally better than Mooy’s. To find someone as good off the ball that can carry a goal threat and play through the middle would either be a Kante-level pluck from France or cost a fortune.
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Post by dooky82 on Apr 15, 2018 13:25:59 GMT 1
Sessegnon from Fulham Antonio from West Ham Kongolo
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 13:30:08 GMT 1
Sessegnon from Fulham Antonio from West Ham Kongolo dream on dooky
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 15, 2018 13:32:10 GMT 1
Sessegnon from Fulham Antonio from West Ham Kongolo dream on dooky Sessegnon 🙊🙈
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Post by oldrain on Apr 15, 2018 13:36:19 GMT 1
Like to see some Premier League experience come in players like Allbrighton (Leicester) pacy hard worker and Ashley Barnes good finisher then add some unknowns from abroad
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Post by dooky82 on Apr 15, 2018 13:40:30 GMT 1
Be great to see us have that sort of ambition.
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Post by dm on Apr 15, 2018 13:42:09 GMT 1
Like to see some Premier League experience come in players like Allbrighton (Leicester) pacy hard worker and Ashley Barnes good finisher then add some unknowns from abroad Ashley Barnes has 7 in 31 this season and 21 in 123 for Burnley overall. Definitely not what we need IMO. I like Albrighton. This he is really good and pretty underrated. However, I doubt we'd be able to attract him to (probably) another relegation fight.
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