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Post by mightytj on Sept 22, 2018 23:20:27 GMT 1
Fuck my life
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Post by lochnessterrier on Sept 23, 2018 4:33:54 GMT 1
No no no no no .....
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 23, 2018 6:28:08 GMT 1
You’ve said that before without any rationale .. I’m sure he’d be happy to stay The rationale being that Hoyle admitted Wagner was gone this summer if we had gone down That's last summer.. when his stock was so high bigger clubs were sniffing.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 23, 2018 6:31:01 GMT 1
How long WOULD I give Wagner ? The same as hoyle WILL . This season and beyond . He’s a miracle worker . Best manager in my lifetime .. end of debate imo Fair play to you Ted. I’m usually glass half full but... 👴😲 So if I'd told you three years ago what was about to happen you wouldn't have given me a slap and told me to stop talking daft ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 7:28:48 GMT 1
Wagners walking a tightrope, ive changed my mind slighty from yesterday and im going to give him 2 more games. If nothing changes then i will be starting a full blown campaign for his removal, and nobody escapes one of my campaigns without taking a hit.
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 23, 2018 7:52:23 GMT 1
Wagners walking a tightrope, ive changed my mind slighty from yesterday and im going to give him 2 more games. If nothing changes then i will be starting a full blown campaign for his removal, and nobody escapes one of my campaigns without taking a hit. I'm going to give you 2 more posts, then it's full-on Enoch removal campaign. And I bet David will be quaking in his boots!
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 23, 2018 8:38:18 GMT 1
Wagners walking a tightrope, ive changed my mind slighty from yesterday and im going to give him 2 more games. If nothing changes then i will be starting a full blown campaign for his removal, and nobody escapes one of my campaigns without taking a hit. The half time falcon escaped your last campaign, who took the hit?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 8:56:11 GMT 1
Genuine interest Ted, no wummery. How long would you give him and who would you go for if / when he goes ? Seen Moyes mentioned below, no ta. I’d twist and sooner go down the manager merry go round then stick and drop out without competing. Sam is proven, that’s my only “in” Game has changed, accept that. But no excitement over these signings, they could be world beaters but how long to Ternant Gel! . Always concerned me there’s no “proven” Prem or even championship players coming into our team .... It’s heavy heart stuff for me. He’s earned his right to manage, but how long is too long?! Not checked but read on here, 1 win in 16. No other club would accept that. Promotion or otherwise. As mentioned below, I think our promotion was such a fluke I couldn’t see him repeat it again. I am shit faced though, so .... Keep the faith, punching above our weight yadda yadda. Bournemouth, Burnley. We CAN do it, but may need a change and quick .... ?? How long WOULD I give Wagner ? The same as hoyle WILL . This season and beyond . He’s a miracle worker . Best manager in my lifetime .. end of debate imo Huge part of the problem this. People like you shackled to the small club mentality and by the looks of it have no ambition or even desire to strive for anything better than this. The footballs been complete crap for a while now, 1 win in 16. I think Hoyle maybe forced into action this time, in the next 4-8 games. There is no sentimentality in football, ask Mr. Ranieri about that.
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Post by Macjinx on Sept 23, 2018 9:10:06 GMT 1
Wagners walking a tightrope, ive changed my mind slighty from yesterday and im going to give him 2 more games. If nothing changes then i will be starting a full blown campaign for his removal, and nobody escapes one of my campaigns without taking a hit. I'm going to give you 2 more posts, then it's full-on Enoch removal campaign. And I bet David will be quacking in his boots! Well if Enoch targets him, DW will have to "duck".
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Post by y2troy on Sept 23, 2018 9:14:37 GMT 1
We all love DW but comes down to if we want to stay in this division or go down , at the minute the brutal honesty is that we going down , there has been no stats to show we gonna stay up , as post says above 1 win in 16 , a stat from MOTD last night , its been Fenruary since we scored more than one goal in a match , so on that if other team scores then a point is all we can hope for every game an that simply is not gonna be good enough. Yes DW changed this club forever an rest of life BUT this is a business at the end of the day and the money that the premiership brings should be paramount to anything. If we have a chance of staying in this division take it , as i cant see us bouncing straight back up. So going on the stats there Big Sam always gets job done , i dont care what he looks like , how his football is , the main point is he gets results and gets the most out of players and main thing is we compete every game , again we all love DW but cant see this getting any better without a change .
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 23, 2018 9:16:59 GMT 1
How long WOULD I give Wagner ? The same as hoyle WILL . This season and beyond . He’s a miracle worker . Best manager in my lifetime .. end of debate imo Huge part of the problem this. People like you shackled to the small club mentality and by the looks of it have no ambition or even desire to strive for anything better than this. The footballs been complete crap for a while now, 1 win in 16. I think Hoyle maybe forced into action this time, in the next 4-8 games. There is no sentimentality in football, ask Mr. Ranieri about that. People like me ? You mean people like dean Hoyle surely ? It's dean Hoyle that said it ? Maybe Sunderland were being small time when they started sacking gaffers. And stoke .. and west brom .. and swansea and Leeds and Wigan and Bolton and forest and Wednesday and United and and and and ...... . Where is your evidence to back up that the answer to not continuing to overachieve is sacking the manager that elevated you in the first place ? Talking Billy big bollocks cos you play FIFA and support man Utd don't cut it for me kid
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 23, 2018 9:18:18 GMT 1
I'm going to give you 2 more posts, then it's full-on Enoch removal campaign. And I bet David will be quacking in his boots! Well if Enoch targets him, DW will have to "duck". He'll be left with egg on his face , or a pearl necklace depending on how lucky he is
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 9:27:11 GMT 1
Burnley stuck with Dyche when they went down, and he brought them back up. I see no reason why we couldn't do the same and rebuild in the Championship if necessary. Anyway, it's still early days. Palace were hopeless until after Christmas last season, as I recall. DON'T PANIC ... yet.
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Post by detox on Sept 23, 2018 9:39:02 GMT 1
Burnley stuck with Dyche when they went down, and he brought them back up. I see no reason why we couldn't do the same and rebuild in the Championship if necessary. Anyway, it's still early days. Palace were hopeless until after Christmas last season, as I recall. DON'T PANIC ... yet. ah,but.....
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 23, 2018 9:42:32 GMT 1
Unbelievable. Many (including me) were wetting themselves at the end of last season that Wagner might leave, after all he has achieved for this club. Just 6 league games later and we get this thread.
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Post by detox on Sept 23, 2018 9:45:32 GMT 1
This is the first time DW has faced this sort of pressure as a manager, so he'll be under some stress I reckon. However he's built up enough credits over the past few years to qualify for some space I reckon. I have criticised the tactics and the performances but it's not time to be calling for his head - and that won't happen anyway under DH. Fans need to show some loyalty and patience...and stick with the club. We're supposed to be 'different' to other clubs and other fans, aren't we ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 9:55:36 GMT 1
Huge part of the problem this. People like you shackled to the small club mentality and by the looks of it have no ambition or even desire to strive for anything better than this. The footballs been complete crap for a while now, 1 win in 16. I think Hoyle maybe forced into action this time, in the next 4-8 games. There is no sentimentality in football, ask Mr. Ranieri about that. People like me ? You mean people like dean Hoyle surely ? It's dean Hoyle that said it ? Maybe Sunderland were being small time when they started sacking gaffers. And stoke .. and west brom .. and swansea and Leeds and Wigan and Bolton and forest and Wednesday and United and and and and ...... . Where is your evidence to back up that the answer to not continuing to overachieve is sacking the manager that elevated you in the first place ? Talking Billy big bollocks cos you play FIFA and support man Utd don't cut it for me kid Yeah people like you, it’s rife through out the club. Let’s just be happy. Let’s not have a go. Let’s not voice any of our concerns. We’re only Huddersfield Town after all You’re clearly the sort of guy who says “Do you know what it was like in the 60s, aye? Do you? It was worse than this, a tell ye nah” FIFA’s a decent game, you should try it, if you know what an Xbox is, you old dinosaur.
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Post by spots on Sept 23, 2018 10:00:23 GMT 1
People like me ? You mean people like dean Hoyle surely ? It's dean Hoyle that said it ? Maybe Sunderland were being small time when they started sacking gaffers. And stoke .. and west brom .. and swansea and Leeds and Wigan and Bolton and forest and Wednesday and United and and and and ...... . Where is your evidence to back up that the answer to not continuing to overachieve is sacking the manager that elevated you in the first place ? Talking Billy big bollocks cos you play FIFA and support man Utd don't cut it for me kid Yeah people like you, it’s rife through out the club. Let’s just be happy. Let’s not have a go. Let’s not voice any of our concerns. We’re only Huddersfield Town after all You’re clearly the sort of guy who says “Do you know what it was like in the 60s, aye? Do you? It was worse than this, a tell ye nah” FIFA’s a decent game, you should try it, if you know what an Xbox is, you old dinosaur.
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Post by spots on Sept 23, 2018 10:03:30 GMT 1
People like me ? You mean people like dean Hoyle surely ? It's dean Hoyle that said it ? Maybe Sunderland were being small time when they started sacking gaffers. And stoke .. and west brom .. and swansea and Leeds and Wigan and Bolton and forest and Wednesday and United and and and and ...... . Where is your evidence to back up that the answer to not continuing to overachieve is sacking the manager that elevated you in the first place ? Talking Billy big bollocks cos you play FIFA and support man Utd don't cut it for me kid Yeah people like you, it’s rife through out the club. Let’s just be happy. Let’s not have a go. Let’s not voice any of our concerns. We’re only Huddersfield Town after all You’re clearly the sort of guy who says “Do you know what it was like in the 60s, aye? Do you? It was worse than this, a tell ye nah” FIFA’s a decent game, you should try it, if you know what an Xbox is, you old dinosaur. It's time to wake up. Football is a entertainment, results driven business. If those boxes are not ticked then like any other business, questions will be asked and the appropriate changes made.
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 23, 2018 10:08:58 GMT 1
I believe that the main reason for our poor start is the massive negativity towards our club shown by just about every "expert" and pundit. However close the group is, they cannot avoid some of the ridiculous comments and this must affect the confidence of the players.
But, it's no good just blaming people outside the club when the training staff and DH singing the same song. I think we need to be more bullish regarding our chances.
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Post by kes on Sept 23, 2018 10:16:54 GMT 1
SA wouldn't take over at a club he didn't think he could keep up. That would rule out Town & Cardiff.
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Post by k1man999 on Sept 23, 2018 10:38:20 GMT 1
We have to start having a go at teams it's simple get back to basics 4231 press and attack back to DWs core beliefs he brought in those early days don't be frightened take it to the opposition if we loose then so be it but let's not dissappear without a whimper
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Post by Dillinger on Sept 23, 2018 10:44:48 GMT 1
Wagners walking a tightrope, ive changed my mind slighty from yesterday and im going to give him 2 more games. If nothing changes then i will be starting a full blown campaign for his removal, and nobody escapes one of my campaigns without taking a hit. I'm going to give you 2 more posts, then it's full-on Enoch removal campaign. And I bet David will be quacking in his boots! Quack quack 🦆
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 23, 2018 10:46:59 GMT 1
If we go down you think Wagner will stay? Don't be daft. I'd stick with him for now, give him another 3 or 4 games he's deserved that. But we could potentially go down an absolute laughing stock if things don't change quickly. The main problem is the new signings have added absolutely nothing to the table other than pace. They can't control a ball, we might aswell have signed usain bolt, he's got bags of pace.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 23, 2018 11:01:35 GMT 1
No but the crowd is actually already leaving We still have a great support overall, but agree. We had a full group of bottom feeders sat behind us yesterday, whinging and moaning throughout, talking in cliches and constantly contradicting themselves. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't exactly positive, but this was another level and direct from the Mike Bassett handbook. Also, one person stated it's the worst Town team they've seen and they're now off to watch Halifax! Thick as pigshit. In terms of literally leaving, the Panasonic is looking much emptier this season.
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Post by space hardware on Sept 23, 2018 11:04:32 GMT 1
No but the crowd is actually already leaving We still have a great support overall, but agree. We had a full group of bottom feeders sat behind us yesterday, whinging and moaning throughout, talking in cliches and constantly contradicting themselves. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't exactly positive, but this was another level from the Mike Bassett handbook. Also, one person stated it's the worst Town team they've seen and they're now off to watch Halifax! Thick as pigshit. In terms of literally leaving, the Panasonic is looking much emptier this season. The lower tier was half full last week.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 23, 2018 11:08:53 GMT 1
Huge part of the problem this. People like you shackled to the small club mentality and by the looks of it have no ambition or even desire to strive for anything better than this. The footballs been complete crap for a while now, 1 win in 16. I think Hoyle maybe forced into action this time, in the next 4-8 games. There is no sentimentality in football, ask Mr. Ranieri about that. People like me ? You mean people like dean Hoyle surely ? It's dean Hoyle that said it ? Maybe Sunderland were being small time when they started sacking gaffers. And stoke .. and west brom .. and swansea and Leeds and Wigan and Bolton and forest and Wednesday and United and and and and ...... . Where is your evidence to back up that the answer to not continuing to overachieve is sacking the manager that elevated you in the first place ? Talking Billy big bollocks cos you play FIFA and support man Utd don't cut it for me kid You missed Charlton. The club where to me it seems the fans were the catalyst for getting Curbishley the boot......hmmmmm, that worked. I'm sure some think the 'likes' of you and me are happy, when we're clearly not, we just have at least an ounce of common sense and logic, plus the ability to sit back and think before inflicting the first thing that comes into our mind on the unsuspecting public.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 11:08:55 GMT 1
No but the crowd is actually already leaving We still have a great support overall, but agree. We had a full group of bottom feeders sat behind us yesterday, whinging and moaning throughout, talking in cliches and constantly contradicting themselves. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't exactly positive, but this was another level from the Mike Bassett handbook. Also, one person stated it's the worst Town team they've seen and they're now off to watch Halifax! Thick as pigshit. In terms of literally leaving, the Panasonic is looking much emptier this season. lower tier against Palace was like a championship attendance. However watching match of the day there were loads of empty seats at Burnley and also Cardiff (playing Man City) and a few at Brighton.
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Post by cliffeterrier on Sept 23, 2018 11:13:18 GMT 1
David Wagner is a manager who has performed absolute miracles. We get promoted from the championship on a tiny budget compared to the other "big" clubs in that league. We then survive our first season in the top flight. I agree with many posters that we will be relegated, it is inevitable, we just cannot compete financially at this level, all the fighting spirit in the world may save us once like last season, but asking for the same luck again and again, sorry but the writing is on the wall. It has been mentioned before SA will not take on a club he knows he can't get to safety that rules us and Cardiff out of that debate. The damage in my opinion was done before a ball was kicked in the summer transfer window, we do not have the time in this league to bring players in and hope that in time they reach there potential, we need those players with premiership quality ready for the first game but as we know they come with a rather large hefty price tag which we will not, and cannot afford to pay. This is a results business, people want their team to win, score goals and entertain, we simply can't achieve at this level.
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 23, 2018 11:17:01 GMT 1
DW isn't the issue, recruitment of quality is the issue. I understand and respect the policy of buying potential but in doing so it means you are gambling on those players realising that potential. At the moment I think that in a couple of areas on the pitch we lack the quality. As DH said it's a Billionaires game in the Premier League, DH is great but he's not a Billionaire. It's a simple equation - you generally get what you pay for. To have got to and had two seasons in the Premier League is fantastic. Stability through the club is wonderful too but sustaining this level, let alone progressing, on this policy cannot be guaranteed. You can't expect DW to keep getting extra from players. I don't think any manager would do much better, if at all, than DW with the players available. No one is being dishonest , no one isn't trying but it is likely to be very difficult to sustain Premier League football year on year with this policy. Not impossible with excellent recruitment but very tough. This all means it's a tough reality and also a tough watch. It is however our identity and unless we are taken on by a new owner with deeper pockets it is an identity we have to follow. Talk of sacking DW is daft. There's no loss of spirit, effort is there, the atmosphere at the club is good but if you are quite good enough in some key areas you will struggle. That's the reality and it's a reality I expect. Unless something looks like badly deteriorating I can live with it knowing that financially we should be able to compete at a lower level and get back and go again. If we did yo-yo I'm afraid unless our recruitment was outstanding we'd have the same problem. Debate it all you want but that us the bottom line. Not sure I agree that it's the recruitment. What saved us last season was our early season form when we were gegenpressing and playing on the front foot. Wagner changed it after the home defeat to Spurs. Since then our form has been awful. I'm afraid if we don't change the way we play, we are going down with a whimper.
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