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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 11, 2018 0:04:59 GMT 1
They do But I'd also like to think that if I had watched Mbenza more than twice I wouldn't have recommended signing him And I haven't played fifa for 5 or 6 years To be fair whoever recommended Mbenza wants marching out of the club. I can't believe how awful he is, his shooting is Sunday league and that's being generous, we saw him aim for the corner flag again today. Benza Dickobbby Are shit
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Nov 11, 2018 0:07:58 GMT 1
To be fair whoever recommended Mbenza wants marching out of the club. I can't believe how awful he is, his shooting is Sunday league and that's being generous, we saw him aim for the corner flag again today. Benza Dickobbby Are shit Keep 'em coming Nick
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 11, 2018 0:10:12 GMT 1
Keep 'em coming Nick Mog and Hooy whEre Grate.
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Post by Town Duppy on Nov 11, 2018 0:20:26 GMT 1
To be fair whoever recommended Mbenza wants marching out of the club. I can't believe how awful he is, his shooting is Sunday league and that's being generous, we saw him aim for the corner flag again today. Benza Dickobbby Are is shit Edited for accuracy, same bloke.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 11, 2018 0:28:14 GMT 1
Pleased with the last week after the shambles st Watford.
Hopefully it's given the players some confidence to take into the Wolves game.
Whilst we clearly lack quality in some areas, the team spirit and the fact we're showing we can compete will surely make us less fearful of opponents.
All we needed today was a second goal at 1-0 up and I think West Ham would have been shot...
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Post by muffinman on Nov 11, 2018 0:49:51 GMT 1
Most entertaining game of the season so far! How we didn't score a second I don't know? Mounie won every ball that we launched up to him, loved his acrobatic shot first half and shouldve scored his one on one.
Pritchard was great first half, don't think you could knock him for being tired, looked poorer second half but wasn't helped by the fact that when he received the ball he had few options to pass as we were set up more defensively.
It's pace that's killing us as much as our finishing, Mounie and Pritchard were both through on goal and would have made the space to get better shots off if they were quicker.
Lowe was having a cracker up until his injury, big loss if hes out for an extended period of time as we should be starting him and Durm whenever possible.
What has happened to Hadj? back end of last season he was one of our most consistent players???
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 11, 2018 0:52:48 GMT 1
MOTD did their best to squeeze us in...
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Post by shawsie on Nov 11, 2018 0:59:45 GMT 1
Most entertaining game of the season so far! How we didn't score a second I don't know? Mounie won every ball that we launched up to him, loved his acrobatic shot first half and shouldve scored his one on one. Pritchard was great first half, don't think you could knock him for being tired, looked poorer second half but wasn't helped by the fact that when he received the ball he had few options to pass as we were set up more defensively. It's pace that's killing us as much as our finishing, Mounie and Pritchard were both through on goal and would have made the space to get better shots off if they were quicker. Lowe was having a cracker up until his injury, big loss if hes out for an extended period of time as we should be starting him and Durm whenever possible. What has happened to Hadj? back end of last season he was one of our most consistent players??? Hadj isn’t strong enough either physically or mentally. He looks frightened at times and has been really poor 1 on 1 all season.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 1:14:34 GMT 1
Great entertainment today and some quality players on show. So pleased for Wagner and pritchard who really delivered again today. As stewpot said the bottom line is Moonié has to be taking one of his chances today and we go on and win from there. I’ve called for him to start and I still think we must stick with him as he’s the better potential goalscorer imo. In Jan we have to gamble in the market though and go big because that was not a relegation outfit out there todayWe matched them blow for blow and then some..but someone needs to score the goals to keep us up..Moonié might yet become that man..absolutely vital we’re still in touch with the other 5 or so come January. West Ham had quality but we matched them today..If we put pressure and pass it like we did first 45 then we’ll be very competitive in most games. I remain positive. Enjoyed watching us today. Some quality players on our books. Durm, Zanka, Hogg AP, moonie Lossl, all cutting it against expensive opponents. Great times. UTT Shame about Lowe injury because Durm will have to cover whereas in a full strength XI Flo wouldn't start Agree. Cardinal sin from and it’s cost us. Yeah we should’ve defended it afterwards but you can’t go diving in up the pitch against players of this calibre.
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Post by space hardware on Nov 11, 2018 1:23:38 GMT 1
Benza Dickobbby Are is shit Edited for accuracy, same bloke. 😁 it's juvenile but still cracks me up
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 1:24:19 GMT 1
Most entertaining game of the season so far! How we didn't score a second I don't know? Mounie won every ball that we launched up to him, loved his acrobatic shot first half and shouldve scored his one on one. Pritchard was great first half, don't think you could knock him for being tired, looked poorer second half but wasn't helped by the fact that when he received the ball he had few options to pass as we were set up more defensively. It's pace that's killing us as much as our finishing, Mounie and Pritchard were both through on goal and would have made the space to get better shots off if they were quicker. Lowe was having a cracker up until his injury, big loss if hes out for an extended period of time as we should be starting him and Durm whenever possible. What has happened to Hadj? back end of last season he was one of our most consistent players??? Hadj isn’t strong enough either physically or mentally. He looks frightened at times and has been really poor 1 on 1 all season. He stands out as not premier league calibre for me whereas the rest of our guys whilst perhaps not brilliant can all cut it at this level including Lowe who has really surprised me this season. It’s too important a position in our system to not have a player with creative/crossing capability. Too many attacking opportunities come to nothing. A lot of times today he clearly did not want that responsibility. Fundamentally though he’s not good enough defensively to justify his inclusion imo. Somehow we need the find better in January.
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Post by faffa on Nov 11, 2018 1:25:24 GMT 1
Just watched the game on TV and I am Town biased tbh but I thought we played quite well. We have sacrificed, rightly so, passing back to the keeper which is good to see for more intensity in pressing.
As we see every week we lack that extra bit of quality that 30/40 million buys you but that’s the way it is.
I read through a few posts before watching and I am still waiting for Mounie 2 one on ones. One I remember at a tight angle and it’s 50/50 if a striker scores from there and the keeper did well. Arnautovic missed/ had saved an easier chance for them but people think he was excellent!! He was good though and at 20 million a good buy but he still misses. Mounie had half a chance second half but no ore than that and he made the header which the keeper saved, himself. Thought he had a good game.
Flo was poor again today which happens maybe need to give Smith a go.
Defence excellent again, Zanka seems to have upped his game and makes a big difference to us when he’s on it.
Mbenza gets some stick on here. What did he do wrong today? 1/4 chance on the edge of the box which he screwed wide. An air kick which he missed. Would he have been better bringing it down and wasting half a chance. Nobody seemed to criticise arnautovic for his embarrassing miss kick which would have ended up in the stand if he had connected but luckily fell to a player in the box a yard away which they eventually scored from.
Anyway a good point, not sure we dropped back second half they threw on more attackers and let’s not forget we played Monday and they played Saturday and with the intensity we play at and the small squad it’s always going to be tough.
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Post by willo on Nov 11, 2018 1:49:03 GMT 1
Cracking game v WH & another great atmosphere but once again MOTD deem us unworthy of anything other than last match on shoehorned into the last 7 mins of the show. Total shite. Excellent first half performance again & although we faded somewhat in the 2nd half, a draw was about right. It once again highlighted today how desperate we are for more firepower in January (& not Jan 31!). Mounie 1 on 1 should have been a goal & how did Depoitre not get a toe on that one at the end? Team overall has been performing well for several weeks now (excluding Watford), just need the goals to back the performances up & to stop hitting the woodwork! On personal performances; Mbenza should be sent back from wherever he came from in January if we can. Seen enough of him now to see he ain’t good enough. Don’t know what has happened with Flo, especially his crossing, is going backwards. Why are we persisting with Mooy on corners. Far too many don’t even beat the first man. Thought Pritchard had taken over these duties as after all, he’ll never be a threat at corners. Plenty of winnable games coming up this side of Christmas, win some of these to keep from getting left behind, strengthen our attack in January & think we’ll be ok. Final word goes to the ref. Ok until mid-way into the 2nd half then decided to give everything their way. Fucking nob. Are they really as bad as this or is there a conspiracy? Least we didn’t have whoever reffed the Soton v Watford game. Jeez. No wonder Austin did his nut in his post-match.
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Post by willo on Nov 11, 2018 1:56:49 GMT 1
They do But I'd also like to think that if I had watched Mbenza more than twice I wouldn't have recommended signing him And I haven't played fifa for 5 or 6 years To be fair whoever recommended Mbenza wants marching out of the club. I can't believe how awful he is, his shooting is Sunday league and that's being generous, we saw him aim for the corner flag again today. Don’t always agree with you art but do on this one. He is gash. This team’s Malvin Kamara the way he’s going. He’s been here since the summer, trains every day, etc, but looks fucking clueless half the time. Would rather Kach be given a go.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 11, 2018 2:02:45 GMT 1
Cracking game v WH & another great atmosphere but once again MOTD deem us unworthy of anything other than last match on shoehorned into the last 7 mins of the show. Total shite. Excellent first half performance again & although we faded somewhat in the 2nd half, a draw was about right. It once again highlighted today how desperate we are for more firepower in January (& not Jan 31!). Mounie 1 on 1 should have been a goal & how did Depoitre not get a toe on that one at the end? Team overall has been performing well for several weeks now (excluding Watford), just need the goals to back the performances up & to stop hitting the woodwork! On personal performances; Mbenza should be sent back from wherever he came from in January if we can. Seen enough of him now to see he ain’t good enough. Don’t know what has happened with Flo, especially his crossing, is going backwards. Why are we persisting with Mooy on corners. Far too many don’t even beat the first man. Thought Pritchard had taken over these duties as after all, he’ll never be a threat at corners. Plenty of winnable games coming up this side of Christmas, win some of these to keep from getting left behind, strengthen our attack in January & think we’ll be ok. Final word goes to the ref. Ok until mid-way into the 2nd half then decided to give everything their way. Fucking nob. Are they really as bad as this or is there a conspiracy? Least we didn’t have whoever reffed the Soton v Watford game. Jeez. No wonder Austin did his nut in his post-match. Great post but paragraphs.
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Post by willo on Nov 11, 2018 2:09:41 GMT 1
Problem is there are no guarantees . People are paying 30-40 million for players who turn out to be shit . Their wages tend to be north of 100k a year . Don’t get me wrong I’d live better players all over the park and I take your point . But if only it were that easy No guarantees, but no chance if we don't try. Players such as Wilson at Bournemouth & Murray at Brighton didn't cost a fortune relative to some of the fancy prices paid by some clubs but both have shown their ability at this level. Surely there must be strikers around who are chomping at the bit to prove their worth at this level who aren't going to break the bank. I would be looking to bring 2 new strikers in in January as after all, we only have 2. How many did WH have on the field in the 2nd half? One would be someone in a rich vein of form having a great season banging them in for fun more as likely in the Championship. If they’re on a roll, there’s a great chance they’ll just carry on with their new club. The next one would be someone from the continent that (hopefully) we have been keeping tabs on. Both have to be players who could come straight into the 1st team, we haven’t got the time to wait for players to be brought up to speed & being ready in March. The only other option is a bench warmer from another Prem club but can see these clubs being v reluctant to let players go. All this could likely set us back £20-£30M, guess it depends how badly we want to stay in the PL & we’ll know the answer to that come the end of January. Speculate to accumulate & all that (within reason).
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Post by willo on Nov 11, 2018 2:10:55 GMT 1
Cracking game v WH & another great atmosphere but once again MOTD deem us unworthy of anything other than last match on shoehorned into the last 7 mins of the show. Total shite. Excellent first half performance again & although we faded somewhat in the 2nd half, a draw was about right. It once again highlighted today how desperate we are for more firepower in January (& not Jan 31!). Mounie 1 on 1 should have been a goal & how did Depoitre not get a toe on that one at the end? Team overall has been performing well for several weeks now (excluding Watford), just need the goals to back the performances up & to stop hitting the woodwork! On personal performances; Mbenza should be sent back from wherever he came from in January if we can. Seen enough of him now to see he ain’t good enough. Don’t know what has happened with Flo, especially his crossing, is going backwards. Why are we persisting with Mooy on corners. Far too many don’t even beat the first man. Thought Pritchard had taken over these duties as after all, he’ll never be a threat at corners. Plenty of winnable games coming up this side of Christmas, win some of these to keep from getting left behind, strengthen our attack in January & think we’ll be ok. Final word goes to the ref. Ok until mid-way into the 2nd half then decided to give everything their way. Fucking nob. Are they really as bad as this or is there a conspiracy? Least we didn’t have whoever reffed the Soton v Watford game. Jeez. No wonder Austin did his nut in his post-match. Great post but paragraphs. It’s late, I’m tired & the whisky’s kicking in. Sorry
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Post by brodie81 on Nov 11, 2018 3:49:42 GMT 1
Cracking game v WH & another great atmosphere but once again MOTD deem us unworthy of anything other than last match on shoehorned into the last 7 mins of the show. Total shite. Excellent first half performance again & although we faded somewhat in the 2nd half, a draw was about right. It once again highlighted today how desperate we are for more firepower in January (& not Jan 31!). Mounie 1 on 1 should have been a goal & how did Depoitre not get a toe on that one at the end? Team overall has been performing well for several weeks now (excluding Watford), just need the goals to back the performances up & to stop hitting the woodwork! On personal performances; Mbenza should be sent back from wherever he came from in January if we can. Seen enough of him now to see he ain’t good enough. Don’t know what has happened with Flo, especially his crossing, is going backwards. Why are we persisting with Mooy on corners. Far too many don’t even beat the first man. Thought Pritchard had taken over these duties as after all, he’ll never be a threat at corners. Plenty of winnable games coming up this side of Christmas, win some of these to keep from getting left behind, strengthen our attack in January & think we’ll be ok. Final word goes to the ref. Ok until mid-way into the 2nd half then decided to give everything their way. Fucking nob. Are they really as bad as this or is there a conspiracy? Least we didn’t have whoever reffed the Soton v Watford game. Jeez. No wonder Austin did his nut in his post-match. Great post but paragraphs. Great post.
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Post by muffinman on Nov 11, 2018 6:49:41 GMT 1
No guarantees, but no chance if we don't try. Players such as Wilson at Bournemouth & Murray at Brighton didn't cost a fortune relative to some of the fancy prices paid by some clubs but both have shown their ability at this level. Surely there must be strikers around who are chomping at the bit to prove their worth at this level who aren't going to break the bank. I would be looking to bring 2 new strikers in in January as after all, we only have 2. How many did WH have on the field in the 2nd half? One would be someone in a rich vein of form having a great season banging them in for fun more as likely in the Championship. If they’re on a roll, there’s a great chance they’ll just carry on with their new club. The next one would be someone from the continent that (hopefully) we have been keeping tabs on. Both have to be players who could come straight into the 1st team, we haven’t got the time to wait for players to be brought up to speed & being ready in March. The only other option is a bench warmer from another Prem club but can see these clubs being v reluctant to let players go. All this could likely set us back £20-£30M, guess it depends how badly we want to stay in the PL & we’ll know the answer to that come the end of January. Speculate to accumulate & all that (within reason). A la Stead when he went to Blackburn? Must be worth a punt as 3rd choice, I've not been following the lower leagues recently. Someone mentioned some player from Forest 😉.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 11, 2018 8:39:55 GMT 1
Keep 'em coming Nick not same bloke benza played diakshoby. didnt both as bad
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Post by Torquayterrier on Nov 11, 2018 8:49:09 GMT 1
Another much more positive pressing display. With a bit more quality from either Mounie or Depoitre we could easily have had 3 points there. I usually record MOTD and watch later so it wont affect me but it looked like we were billed last. Id be amazed if ours was the least exciting game played yesterday.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Nov 11, 2018 8:54:43 GMT 1
Webber seems to have unearthed some gems for Norwich in the summer. Any chance they can all kiss and make up and bring him back on board in time for January spending
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 11, 2018 8:56:19 GMT 1
Webber seems to have unearthed some gems for Norwich in the summer. Any chance they can all kiss and make up and bring him back on board in time for January spending Exactly, Dunno how our present chief scout got these two in ?
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 11, 2018 8:59:23 GMT 1
No guarantees, but no chance if we don't try. Players such as Wilson at Bournemouth & Murray at Brighton didn't cost a fortune relative to some of the fancy prices paid by some clubs but both have shown their ability at this level. Surely there must be strikers around who are chomping at the bit to prove their worth at this level who aren't going to break the bank. I would be looking to bring 2 new strikers in in January as after all, we only have 2. How many did WH have on the field in the 2nd half? One would be someone in a rich vein of form having a great season banging them in for fun more as likely in the Championship. If they’re on a roll, there’s a great chance they’ll just carry on with their new club. The next one would be someone from the continent that (hopefully) we have been keeping tabs on. Both have to be players who could come straight into the 1st team, we haven’t got the time to wait for players to be brought up to speed & being ready in March. The only other option is a bench warmer from another Prem club but can see these clubs being v reluctant to let players go. All this could likely set us back £20-£30M, guess it depends how badly we want to stay in the PL & we’ll know the answer to that come the end of January. Speculate to accumulate & all that (within reason). They started with no traditional strikers and finished with one.
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Post by morleyterrier on Nov 11, 2018 9:00:23 GMT 1
There is absolutely clear signs now we can get out of this. Hold our line and our nerve and at most 'tweak' what we are doing.
A draw against in my opinion a really big Club (an expensively assembled established Premier League Club at that) such as West Ham is a really good result. Whist yes it could have been more.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 11, 2018 11:03:36 GMT 1
The recruitment has been woeful. 12 million on Diakhaby and hes nowhere to be seen, 5 on sobhi and hes disappeared, 9 on mbenza and he has a worse first touch than quanner.... its diabolical. Whoever came up with these and convinced wagner to sign off on them needs putting infront of the firing squad.
We need a clear out and to start again upfront. Preferably in Jan, but it takes new players 8 weeks to get upto speed which will be too late.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Nov 11, 2018 11:39:32 GMT 1
The recruitment has been woeful. 12 million on Diakhaby and hes nowhere to be seen, 5 on sobhi and hes disappeared, 9 on mbenza and he has a worse first touch than quanner.... its diabolical. Whoever came up with these and convinced wagner to sign off on them needs putting infront of the firing squad.
We need a clear out and to start again upfront. Preferably in Jan, but it takes new players 8 weeks to get upto speed which will be too late. And because of all this we have little competition for starting [places. Perhaps Williams can put pressure on the middle 3 but those shitsters we brought in during the summer what a disaster
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Post by willo on Nov 11, 2018 12:14:30 GMT 1
The recruitment has been woeful. 12 million on Diakhaby and hes nowhere to be seen, 5 on sobhi and hes disappeared, 9 on mbenza and he has a worse first touch than quanner.... its diabolical. Whoever came up with these and convinced wagner to sign off on them needs putting infront of the firing squad.
We need a clear out and to start again upfront. Preferably in Jan, but it takes new players 8 weeks to get upto speed which will be too late. And because of all this we have little competition for starting [places. Perhaps Williams can put pressure on the middle 3 but those shitsters we brought in during the summer what a disaster Our incoming transfers in the Wagner era have been, on the whole, very good. In the first summer, there was only Paurevic that didn’t work out. Last season showed that the PL was a step too far for both Ince & Malone but we lost very little on the 2 players when they were sold on. This summer, Durm aside, our new recruits have shown very little so far although we are practically a third of the way into the season. What little I have seen of the likes of Mbenza haven’t really impressed me. I can’t figure out why when most of these new recruits have remained injury-free during the start of the campaign, they are usually not considered as being any better than being on the bench. Any incomings should be deemed at least as good as the existing players but DW can’t be thinking this presently. We’re then back to just who is recruiting these fellas? You’d think final say on anyone would be down to DW (& I’m not so sure) but if this is the case, his judgement was unusually off. Can only hope that whoever is planning our January recruitment will do a much, much, better job.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 12:29:03 GMT 1
The recruitment has been woeful. 12 million on Diakhaby and hes nowhere to be seen, 5 on sobhi and hes disappeared, 9 on mbenza and he has a worse first touch than quanner.... its diabolical. Whoever came up with these and convinced wagner to sign off on them needs putting infront of the firing squad.
We need a clear out and to start again upfront. Preferably in Jan, but it takes new players 8 weeks to get upto speed which will be too late. And because of all this we have little competition for starting [places. Perhaps Williams can put pressure on the middle 3 but those shitsters we brought in during the summer what a disaster ? a long way to go yet
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Post by yappledapple on Nov 11, 2018 12:32:05 GMT 1
Most entertaining game of the season so far! How we didn't score a second I don't know? Mounie won every ball that we launched up to him, loved his acrobatic shot first half and shouldve scored his one on one. Pritchard was great first half, don't think you could knock him for being tired, looked poorer second half but wasn't helped by the fact that when he received the ball he had few options to pass as we were set up more defensively. It's pace that's killing us as much as our finishing, Mounie and Pritchard were both through on goal and would have made the space to get better shots off if they were quicker. Lowe was having a cracker up until his injury, big loss if hes out for an extended period of time as we should be starting him and Durm whenever possible. What has happened to Hadj? back end of last season he was one of our most consistent players??? Hadj isn’t strong enough either physically or mentally. He looks frightened at times and has been really poor 1 on 1 all season. Physically he is very lightweight and often gets bumped/pushed off the ball. He’s good for the over-lapping run but often the resulting cross is poor, not that we often have many men in the box for the cross to find! Trouble is, that when he is being closed down or shepherded, he hasn’t a clue how to beat the man. So many times yesterday he tried to take on the man and ended up losing it or giving away a throw-in. Kachunga being converted to a right wing-back could, as someone else has pointed out, be worth a look at.
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