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Post by upthetown on Nov 11, 2018 12:38:09 GMT 1
You did Chris, oh apart from Pritchard who was a liability..... apparently!! BBC saying Billing was MOM. No doubt a certain someone won’t agree. Just a shame Billing isn’t “Moslem” to send Oti over the edge.
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Post by upthetown on Nov 11, 2018 12:39:14 GMT 1
BBC saying Billing was MOM. No doubt a certain someone won’t agree. He was very good and kept going right until the end. His fitness has come on massively in the last 12 months Man of the match was Hogg though. He kept popping up everywhere. If he was better on the ball he would be top of everyone's January transfer list Out midfield 3 is a joy to watch at the moment. All playing excellently. Billing is really developing in to a big player for us.
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Post by upthetown on Nov 11, 2018 12:43:07 GMT 1
They do But I'd also like to think that if I had watched Mbenza more than twice I wouldn't have recommended signing him And I haven't played fifa for 5 or 6 years To be fair whoever recommended Mbenza wants marching out of the club. I can't believe how awful he is, his shooting is Sunday league and that's being generous, we saw him aim for the corner flag again today. Or perhaps there is a player there and it just isn’t happening for him yet? Perhaps he does look the business in training which is why he’s getting in ahead of VLP? He certainly seems to get in to scoring positions in his cameos, so let’s guve him a bit more time before writing him off.
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 11, 2018 12:48:37 GMT 1
MOTD did their best to squeeze us in... Really? Haven't watched it yet but if there really 5 games better than ours yesterday it must have been an epic day of football.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Nov 11, 2018 13:01:35 GMT 1
Anyone seen any highlights with Mouniès second half chance on? Seemed to be one of the best chances of the game but nobody want to show it.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 11, 2018 13:13:08 GMT 1
Anyone seen any highlights with Mouniès second half chance on? Seemed to be one of the best chances of the game but nobody want to show it. MOTD seemed to show some highlights then use the 1 min of analysis footage to show stuff they hadn't slotted into the highlights. A bit of a cop out really. They'll obviously be focused on today's games... Let's hope we give 'em a third season of not much to talk about...
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 11, 2018 15:14:37 GMT 1
The recruitment has been woeful. 12 million on Diakhaby and hes nowhere to be seen, 5 on sobhi and hes disappeared, 9 on mbenza and he has a worse first touch than quanner.... its diabolical. Whoever came up with these and convinced wagner to sign off on them needs putting infront of the firing squad. We need a clear out and to start again upfront. Preferably in Jan, but it takes new players 8 weeks to get upto speed which will be too late. They do look poor, but wasn't Diakhaby closer to 8m and Mbenza closer to 12m (if we wanted him!). From what I've seen, Sobhi is the only natural footballer, he's just not blessed with speed.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 11, 2018 15:44:34 GMT 1
The recruitment has been woeful. 12 million on Diakhaby and hes nowhere to be seen, 5 on sobhi and hes disappeared, 9 on mbenza and he has a worse first touch than quanner.... its diabolical. Whoever came up with these and convinced wagner to sign off on them needs putting infront of the firing squad. We need a clear out and to start again upfront. Preferably in Jan, but it takes new players 8 weeks to get upto speed which will be too late. They do look poor, but wasn't Diakhaby closer to 8m and Mbenza closer to 12m (if we wanted him!). From what I've seen, Sobhi is the only natural footballer, he's just not blessed with speed. Well we don't want him.
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Post by sykeylad on Nov 11, 2018 15:59:59 GMT 1
No surprise the if-they-are-not-in-starting11-they-are-shit & it is not about what you have or might become it is what you lack brigade are giving Mbenza more stick.
I was behind his shot and 2 defenders blocked his path. Looked to me like he tried an outrageous outside of the boot bender and just didn't get any cut on the ball. So, he is not short of guts or ambition. He may still make it, as might Sobhi and Diakhaby. The way I see it if these lads were the complete package they wouldn't be playing for Town. Every week with the squad helps they bed in.
I am sure a lot on here think that most drinking glasses taper out so one that looks to have been topped up only is about 45% full.
We were excellent first half and although I was disappointed not to win & we may rue the 2 dropped points, no complaints from me..
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Nov 11, 2018 16:20:27 GMT 1
What worries me is that Mbenza is seemingly better than Diakhaby who can’t even make the bench!
There must be footballers in there otherwise they wouldn’t play for France and Belgium U21 but to date they look worse players than the wingers we signed in the Davy era in League One.
It’s not tactics that excuse not being able to trap a ball, play a ten yard pass or stay onside
Honestly I feel a bit for Wagner - the only summer signings he trusts are Durm (his man) and Kongolo (got on loan pre Rebbe). The rest it seems like he’s lumbered doing something with
It’s telling when we played Fulham and Wagner wanted to shore up midfield he preferred to play Loewe out of position there rather than bring on Bacuna who is a natural defensive midfielder!
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Post by sykeylad on Nov 11, 2018 16:27:21 GMT 1
We are starting games 352 or 532 why would he want both on bench?
Why would take Lowe off when he was just switching formation and may have switched back?
Bacuna another young lad and he is getting rave reviews from training. Place on bench is a credit for him.
Wagner may well be pretty happy with squad.
Ref Decisions and rub of the green from woodwork would help.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 11, 2018 16:30:00 GMT 1
What worries me is that Mbenza is seemingly better than Diakhaby who can’t even make the bench! There must be footballers in there otherwise they wouldn’t play for France and Belgium U21 but to date they look worse players than the wingers we signed in the Davy era in League One. It’s not tactics that excuse not being able to trap a ball, play a ten yard pass or stay onside Honestly I feel a bit for Wagner - the only summer signings he trusts are Durm (his man) and Kongolo (got on loan pre Rebbe). The rest it seems like he’s lumbered doing to something with It’s telling when we played Fulham and Wagner wanted to shore up midfield he preferred to play Loewe out of position there rather than bring on Bacuna who is a natural defensive midfielder! He did not cover himself in glory at all, but one of the two noticeable Mbenza offsides was arguably more to do with the other player being indecisive or slow to spot his run. He made his run and would've been onside if the ball was played earlier.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Nov 11, 2018 16:36:07 GMT 1
We are starting games 352 or 532 why would he want both on bench? Why would take Lowe off when he was just switching formation and may have switched back? Bacuna another young lad and he is getting rave reviews from training. Place on bench is a credit for him. Wagner may well be pretty happy with squad. Ref Decisions and rub of the green from woodwork would help. Because Loewe has never played centre midfield - certainly not in 2.5 years at Town It’s a different role to full back and a big ask to try it out in the best league in the world in one nil must win game against a team who can score If bacuna was fully trusted and standing out in training I’m sure he’d have come on sooner I think Wagner wants to play 4-2-3-1 like Liverpool with serious pace in the 3. We got pace but little else Instead Wagners - who is a brilliant coach - is dealing with what he has and has found a formation that suits the players he can trust at this level
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Post by sykeylad on Nov 11, 2018 16:52:27 GMT 1
We are starting games 352 or 532 why would he want both on bench? Why would take Lowe off when he was just switching formation and may have switched back? Bacuna another young lad and he is getting rave reviews from training. Place on bench is a credit for him. Wagner may well be pretty happy with squad. Ref Decisions and rub of the green from woodwork would help. Because Loewe has never played centre midfield - certainly not in 2.5 years at Town It’s a different role to full back and a big ask to try it out in the best league in the world in one nil must win game against a team who can score If bacuna was fully trusted and standing out in training I’m sure he’d have come on sooner I think Wagner wants to play 4-2-3-1 like Liverpool with serious pace in the 3. We got pace but little else Instead Wagners - who is a brilliant coach - is dealing with what he has and has found a formation that suits the players he can trust at this level Agree I also think he likes 4231 but he is embracing 352 in this league. Less need for wingers with it. I was unsure about Lowe in midfield also but I didnt take it as a slight on Bacuna. Wagner had other priorities and wanted to keep his options open I suspect.
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Post by ponteterrier on Nov 11, 2018 16:57:14 GMT 1
Thought we were great yesterday, it seemed like the fire, the "terrier" spirit was back in the squad.
Gutted we didn't get three points but we look like we're capable of picking up more wins. Hopefully the international break won't ruin that because we have Brighton, Newcastle, Southampton, and dare I say wolves coming up and we need the points on the board. Saints probably should of won yesterday, Cardiff winning and Newcastle seem to have found some rhythm. I really don't want us to start getting adrift, based on some our games this season, we are a better team than last year and our performances give a case to argue that we're not one of the worst three in the group.
Yesterday was also yet another great example of how desperate we are for a goalscorer.
One of the best things of yesterday was seeing Charlie Austin bitching and whinging. After the Lossl stamp, I just think he's a complete cock.
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Post by sykeylad on Nov 11, 2018 17:00:46 GMT 1
Agree althiugh on another say Mounie gets 2 or even 3. Fantastic header. Keep the faith...
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Post by ldotm on Nov 11, 2018 17:11:41 GMT 1
Because Loewe has never played centre midfield - certainly not in 2.5 years at Town It’s a different role to full back and a big ask to try it out in the best league in the world in one nil must win game against a team who can score If bacuna was fully trusted and standing out in training I’m sure he’d have come on sooner I think Wagner wants to play 4-2-3-1 like Liverpool with serious pace in the 3. We got pace but little else Instead Wagners - who is a brilliant coach - is dealing with what he has and has found a formation that suits the players he can trust at this level Agree I also think he likes 4231 but he is embracing 352 in this league. Less need for wingers with it. I was unsure about Lowe in midfield also but I didnt take it as a slight on Bacuna. Wagner had other priorities and wanted to keep his options open I suspect. Liverpool play 4-3-3
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Post by htafc on Nov 11, 2018 23:21:51 GMT 1
we need strikers
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 0:03:04 GMT 1
Agree althiugh on another say Mounie gets 2 or even 3. Fantastic header. Keep the faith... totally agree Sykeylad but it seems to be every game. Surely we will get a rub of the green before long.a
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 0:04:35 GMT 1
Thought we were great yesterday, it seemed like the fire, the "terrier" spirit was back in the squad. Gutted we didn't get three points but we look like we're capable of picking up more wins. Hopefully the international break won't ruin that because we have Brighton, Newcastle, Southampton, and dare I say wolves coming up and we need the points on the board. Saints probably should of won yesterday, Cardiff winning and Newcastle seem to have found some rhythm. I really don't want us to start getting adrift, based on some our games this season, we are a better team than last year and our performances give a case to argue that we're not one of the worst three in the group. Yesterday was also yet another great example of how desperate we are for a goalscorer. One of the best things of yesterday was seeing Charlie Austin bitching and whinging. After the Lossl stamp, I just think he's a complete cock. High pitch whining voice bellend. if they had VAR last year the bloke would be on trial for GBH. Absolute c***.
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Post by muffinman on Nov 12, 2018 1:53:38 GMT 1
Like the idea of Kachunga as RWB instead of Hadj. Great at tracking back, decent tackler and can carry a ball.
This is assuming Lowe is out, do we have an update on him?
On the Mbenza front, he lost the ball every time he got it against Watford. I'm praying like everyone else that he comes good but I just don't see it.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 12, 2018 4:33:56 GMT 1
Hadj isn’t strong enough either physically or mentally. He looks frightened at times and has been really poor 1 on 1 all season. Physically he is very lightweight and often gets bumped/pushed off the ball. He’s good for the over-lapping run but often the resulting cross is poor, not that we often have many men in the box for the cross to find! Trouble is, that when he is being closed down or shepherded, he hasn’t a clue how to beat the man. So many times yesterday he tried to take on the man and ended up losing it or giving away a throw-in. Kachunga being converted to a right wing-back could, as someone else has pointed out, be worth a look at. Despite him having no pace, not being able to beat a man, not being able to defend and not being able to cross ?
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 12, 2018 4:35:56 GMT 1
To be fair whoever recommended Mbenza wants marching out of the club. I can't believe how awful he is, his shooting is Sunday league and that's being generous, we saw him aim for the corner flag again today. Or perhaps there is a player there and it just isn’t happening for him yet? Perhaps he does look the business in training which is why he’s getting in ahead of VLP? He certainly seems to get in to scoring positions in his cameos, so let’s guve him a bit more time before writing him off. He gets into great positions for through balls too but we usually turn and pass back instead of feeding him, Diakhaby is the same
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 12, 2018 4:41:46 GMT 1
What worries me is that Mbenza is seemingly better than Diakhaby who can’t even make the bench! There must be footballers in there otherwise they wouldn’t play for France and Belgium U21 but to date they look worse players than the wingers we signed in the Davy era in League One. It’s not tactics that excuse not being able to trap a ball, play a ten yard pass or stay onside Honestly I feel a bit for Wagner - the only summer signings he trusts are Durm (his man) and Kongolo (got on loan pre Rebbe). The rest it seems like he’s lumbered doing something with It’s telling when we played Fulham and Wagner wanted to shore up midfield he preferred to play Loewe out of position there rather than bring on Bacuna who is a natural defensive midfielder! Or that he knew Lowe could do the job and saved a sub for later ?
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Post by golcarexile on Nov 12, 2018 9:24:11 GMT 1
Physically he is very lightweight and often gets bumped/pushed off the ball. He’s good for the over-lapping run but often the resulting cross is poor, not that we often have many men in the box for the cross to find! Trouble is, that when he is being closed down or shepherded, he hasn’t a clue how to beat the man. So many times yesterday he tried to take on the man and ended up losing it or giving away a throw-in. Kachunga being converted to a right wing-back could, as someone else has pointed out, be worth a look at. Despite him having no pace, not being able to beat a man, not being able to defend and not being able to cross ? Flo has been disappointing. I may get shot down for this, but I think there might be a case for giving Tommy Smith a chance to win his place back.
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Post by terrier70 on Nov 12, 2018 9:55:53 GMT 1
Enjoyed the game today and some positives to be taken. Encouraging we got a point against a team who stuffed us last as has been said. Durm is class and looks a real threat going forward and in the opposing box, would love to see him play further forward. My only negative was that I felt we should have reacted to the West Ham change at half time better than we did. We will stay up He started out as a striker. Maybe we could give him a go up there when Lowe's fit again. Yes, I said to the fella next to me on Saturday that he used to play as a striker, give him a shot!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 10:24:58 GMT 1
I’m surprised more was t made of Zanka’s lack of a challenge for their goal. He seemed to think the ball was going out for a goal kick so didn’t put a foot in on Sndgrass for fear of conceding a corner.
No question that we are a better team than last year. I’ve no doubt it will fall in to place soon.
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Post by yappledapple on Nov 12, 2018 12:17:13 GMT 1
I’m surprised more was t made of Zanka’s lack of a challenge for their goal. He seemed to think the ball was going out for a goal kick so didn’t put a foot in on Sndgrass for fear of conceding a corner. No question that we are a better team than last year. I’ve no doubt it will fall in to place soon. Having re-watched on MOTD, I too felt he was trying to shepherd the ball out for a goal kick and got caught out when he should have just conceded the corner and launched it in to the Cowshed; a little bit naive.
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Post by irverino on Nov 12, 2018 12:46:17 GMT 1
Despite him having no pace, not being able to beat a man, not being able to defend and not being able to cross ? Flo has been disappointing. I may get shot down for this, but I think there might be a case for giving Tommy Smith a chance to win his place back. It might have been a better sub on 72 minutes, it was only a matter of time before Anderson beat him again, if Lowe hadn't been injured then Durm would of been on for Flo, must have been toss of a coin for DW to stick with same 11....we all had Durm to start!!
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Post by herefordaway on Nov 12, 2018 12:57:36 GMT 1
I’m surprised more was t made of Zanka’s lack of a challenge for their goal. He seemed to think the ball was going out for a goal kick so didn’t put a foot in on Sndgrass for fear of conceding a corner. No question that we are a better team than last year. I’ve no doubt it will fall in to place soon. Yes I thought he could have done more.
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