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Post by jafa on Dec 22, 2018 17:59:18 GMT 1
Always going to be hard with Mooy and Hog out. Lacked leadership on the pitch. The Championship next year will be a struggle if we lose a couple of key players.
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Post by leedsroadrob on Dec 22, 2018 17:59:41 GMT 1
Oh aye, yeah, well done.
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Post by impact on Dec 22, 2018 18:00:47 GMT 1
Amazing how when we finally brought wingers on we actually looked like creating something. It isn't fucking rocket science - we play down the wingers and have 6 wingers, play them.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Dec 22, 2018 18:00:59 GMT 1
Shocking, no more to be said.
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Post by impact on Dec 22, 2018 18:01:55 GMT 1
Pritchard backed out of every tackle today. Disgraceful performance from him but he wasn't alone You don't half like picking him out. Bacuna was the worst player on the park, by a distance.
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 22, 2018 18:02:18 GMT 1
Plenty of non-euphoric rabbits posting tonight!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 18:03:17 GMT 1
That was pretty dreadful. It’s the hope that kills but that was absolutely hopeless. No more tinkering. Decisive changes to get on the front foot are needed.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 22, 2018 18:04:21 GMT 1
Pritchard backed out of every tackle today. Disgraceful performance from him but he wasn't alone You don't half like picking him out. Bacuna was the worst player on the park, by a distance. Pritchard was the worst player comfortably, it's not even debatable. It was like playing with ten men Bacuna actuallt created a couple of decent chances with quick through balls but he was poor in the main
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Post by impact on Dec 22, 2018 18:04:55 GMT 1
For the 2nd week running I simply don't understand the point of the Durm sub. Perfect opportunity to change formation and get wingers on yet we waste a sub with a defender in a formation which was nowhere near working.
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Post by muffinman on Dec 22, 2018 18:05:04 GMT 1
People were asking for a change and we got it, unfortunately not the right one.
Looked overrun in midfield which is understandable when missing our 2 key midfielders.
Even without his goal Billing was by far our best player.
I'll say it again, time to go back to 4321, Kongolo at LB, Billing and Hogg in centre mid, cant be worse than today, can it?
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Post by impact on Dec 22, 2018 18:06:12 GMT 1
You don't half like picking him out. Bacuna was the worst player on the park, by a distance. Pritchard was the worst player comfortably, it's not even debatable. It was like playing with ten men Bacuna actuallt created a couple of decent chances with quick through balls but he was poor in the main Bacuna was a total liability all game. Funny how you can remember Bacuna creating chances (which I really can't btw) but always seem to forget anything positive Pritchard does.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 18:06:49 GMT 1
Saints brought on an 18 year old kid who looked more dangerous and scored more goals than our entire front line.
Write off Man Utd.
If we get beat by Fulham and Cardiff there’s a 14 day PL gap which Dean could get very twitchy in...
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Post by otterman on Dec 22, 2018 18:08:20 GMT 1
Pritchard was the worst player comfortably, it's not even debatable. It was like playing with ten men Bacuna actuallt created a couple of decent chances with quick through balls but he was poor in the main Bacuna was a total liability all game. Funny how you can remember Bacuna creating chances (which I really can't btw) but always seem to forget anything positive Pritchard does. Pritchard should not be picked without Mooy. Their interplay is pretty effective. On his own, Pritchard offers nothing.
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Post by deadleg on Dec 22, 2018 18:12:05 GMT 1
Trouble is our squad is woeful compared to nearly every other team look at the attacking talent that Southampton have compared to us It's true, and the recruitment is certainly largely to blame. To me that's down to various people, Wagner included. If it was one person they'd have been shown the door already but people do love to try to single out a scapegoat. However the most worrying thing to me is that Cardiff have 40% more points than we do with the quality of their squad, lack of money spent in comparison and a dinosaur for a manager.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 18:17:08 GMT 1
Pritchard was garbage and has been for a while weak as piss and offers nowt only premier league player on the pitch for us today was billing
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Post by Giggity on Dec 22, 2018 18:17:47 GMT 1
352 and another lacklustre defeat. What a surprise.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 22, 2018 18:19:20 GMT 1
slightly embarrassing to watch.. hard to see a way back once it gets to the cringeworthy state..
11 lads in the same shirts today, nothing much else..
mbenza ran about but looked like nobody had told him what to do..he did join others today who dont look like top flight, or even any decent flight, football players..
entertainment value is nil..
just to re iterate, its not losing, its how you lose..
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Post by Giggity on Dec 22, 2018 18:22:06 GMT 1
Southampton had their tactics spot on. They didn't press our 3 CBs because they knew they couldn't harm them. As soon as we played it to a midfielder or wing back, they pressed and forced us back.
So easy to defend against when we don't have one player (bar Billing) who can receive it, turn and drive forward from deep.
That extra centre back limits us so much because we have 1 less man further forward to pass to. Hope Wagner changes his way and reverts back to 4231 or else he may need changing.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Dec 22, 2018 18:23:29 GMT 1
Pritchard was the worst player comfortably, it's not even debatable. It was like playing with ten men Bacuna actuallt created a couple of decent chances with quick through balls but he was poor in the main Bacuna was a total liability all game. Funny how you can remember Bacuna creating chances (which I really can't btw) but always seem to forget anything positive Pritchard does. Bacuna had a stinker, but Pritchard probably did lose every 50:50 and even 60:40 in his favour. Pritchard does seem to get judged differently to some others.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Dec 22, 2018 18:24:12 GMT 1
Southampton had their tactics spot on. They didn't press our 3 CBs because they knew they couldn't harm them. As soon as we played it to a midfielder or wing back, they pressed and forced us back. So easy to defend against when we don't have one player (bar Billing) who can receive it, turn and drive forward from deep. That extra centre back limits us so much because we have 1 less man further forward to pass to. Hope Wagner changes his way and reverts back to 4231 or else he may need changing. He should've changed it weeks ago, it was too late at that point even when we had a bit of a run going. In fact, he should never have changed to this stupid formation in the first place.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 22, 2018 18:24:13 GMT 1
Five defenders on the pitch at home to a relegation rival.
Half time sub is like for like.
Can't get my head around it.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Dec 22, 2018 18:24:18 GMT 1
Don't think I can put that into words. The players simply aren't good enough and the championship beckons. What I will say is that its getting very Chris Powell esque. The performances, atmosphere, feeling amongst fans, and I reckon it will start to be reflected in the attendances.
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Post by k1man999 on Dec 22, 2018 18:24:49 GMT 1
Says it all when Colin Quaner gets the biggest cheer for lacing up his boots.
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Post by terriers2000 on Dec 22, 2018 18:26:02 GMT 1
Midfield week bacuna was poor, schindler 3 mistakes in the last 3 matches, need to sign players quick in January probably by Cardiff if not championship here we come
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Post by Hank Hill on Dec 22, 2018 18:26:44 GMT 1
It was just embarrassing. Billing was only decent player on the pitch. Everyone just looked spent. Don't know what we're going to do from here.
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Post by zmann on Dec 22, 2018 18:28:31 GMT 1
Wagner tried something different today - everyone was crying out for him to change it up - but it didn’t work. For the first time this season it looked like the players didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing. That’s not overly surprising. The unfortunate reality is that Wagner is right with his conservative 5-3-1-1 - it’s actually the best way to set up with the players at our disposal. With a bit of luck earlier in the season things could have been different but it is real backs to the wall time now. Hard to look past the summer recruitment at this stage. Feels like we tried to evolve too quickly and bought potential for the way we would like to play as opposed to strengthening the way that we can play. If we go down the people responsible for those decisions will be to blame. Hang tough, long way to go yet.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 22, 2018 18:30:34 GMT 1
Wagner tried something different today - everyone was crying out for him to change it up - but it didn’t work. For the first time this season it looked like the players didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing. That’s not overly surprising. The unfortunate reality is that Wagner is right with his conservative 5-3-1-1 - it’s actually the best way to set up with the players at our disposal. With a bit of luck earlier in the season things could have been different but it is real backs to the wall time now. Hard to look past the summer recruitment at this stage. Feels like we tried to evolve too quickly and bought potential for the way we would like to play as opposed to strengthening the way that we can play. If we go down the people responsible for those decisions will be to blame. Hang tough, long way to go yet. It was the same formation as we have played for weeks Mbenza played in Pritchards usual position and Pritchard dropped back to where Mooy normally plays. It's time to drop 5 at the back. It's shite
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Dec 22, 2018 18:31:52 GMT 1
Wagner tried something different today - everyone was crying out for him to change it up - but it didn’t work. For the first time this season it looked like the players didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing. That’s not overly surprising. The unfortunate reality is that Wagner is right with his conservative 5-3-1-1 - it’s actually the best way to set up with the players at our disposal. With a bit of luck earlier in the season things could have been different but it is real backs to the wall time now. Hard to look past the summer recruitment at this stage. Feels like we tried to evolve too quickly and bought potential for the way we would like to play as opposed to strengthening the way that we can play. If we go down the people responsible for those decisions will be to blame. Hang tough, long way to go yet. He changed it up in a stupid way and it was clearly enforced by Hogg being out. He simply played the most regular sub as a starter when one of his starters got injured. The change everyone is crying out for is not a change at all, but to go back to the formation and style that brought us so much success in the first place.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Dec 22, 2018 18:34:33 GMT 1
Why 3 centre backs ? We beat Wolves then we bring Zanka back , why ....we are at home should be 4 at back the responsibility for how we set up offensively and defensively falls with the Kaiser , we went 3 on 3 st the back we lost possession through slack passing and we looked wide open ... the lack of ability and a first touch of quality is alarming, we had lots of shitty possession playing the ball across the back 3 and then to Lossl .., all in all a dreadful effort
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 22, 2018 18:43:13 GMT 1
Bloody garbage fromstart to finish except for a ten minute spell. We look totally out of our depth at this level. We couldn't even get the basics right today. Mbenza should never play for Town again, Bacuna had a shocker but it wasn't just them, everyone was crap. What is Schindler doing allowing Redmond to win the ball back for the 3rd? Struggle to see where we go from here apart from back to The Championship.
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