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Post by EatonRifles on Jan 13, 2019 20:40:02 GMT 1
I genuinely have no idea. Until we know who has arrived, who has left (us and our opponents), what the morale of the club is like.... etc I have no idea. Morale will be on its arse as I really can't see where another win is coming from. It’s one of my biggest fears going into next season, if we carry on playing damage limitation football which more often than not leads to defeat, it’s going to take a monumental amount of effort to start pre-season training and prepare the nucleus of players that have stayed in a positive mindset. I hope that very soon the management realises that ‘no limits’ shackles off football may be the best way to prepare for next season, whichever division we may be in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 20:41:18 GMT 1
Teams that struggle in the Championship after relegation from the Premier League usually suffer from both of the following:- - Financially struggling - Numerous players that they can’t offload and are on wages that can’t be sustained under Parachute Payments I very much doubt that either will apply to you. You haven’t over extended yourselves and your players will get a wage reduction if you go down. Therefore, whilst not impossible it would take gross mismanagement to come in the bottom 8 I would say. I would predict that 3rd to 10th would be most likely. Keep Schindler and Mooy and bring in a top Championship striker and top 6 looks most likely to me. stop coming on our forum and speaking sense, it just won't do...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 20:48:44 GMT 1
Lots of factors to consider first, the biggest one is would Wagner stay, if not depends who we hire. I'm hoping Wagner would stay as Hoyle has kept the faith in him and would want to repay that, I'm pleased to see Wagner seems to getting back to his old self just killing us not having Mooy and the same lack of quality In what way is he getting back to his old self? I think he is nothing like the bloke who came in 3 years ago, either in attitude or application.[/quote There is nothing wrong with his attitude or application and to suggest otherwise is without foundation and disrespectfull
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 13, 2019 21:30:48 GMT 1
There's way too many unknowns right now. A lot is going to happen in the next few months
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 22:15:23 GMT 1
Unless there are major changes, and yes I'm including selling our best players, I'd be fairly confident that, with the nucleus of the squad we will have, plus the lack of baggage, plus the huge war chest, that we would go up automatically, probably as champions.
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Post by ACW on Jan 13, 2019 22:16:20 GMT 1
There's way too many unknowns right now. A lot is going to happen in the next few months Agreed. Far too many variables to consider at this stage. But I'd like to think we'd make a decent fist of challenging for at least the play offs.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 13, 2019 22:25:34 GMT 1
not an easy league the Championship, but if cloggers like L..ds can be at the top then there truly is nothing to fear.
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Post by tonytiler on Jan 13, 2019 22:28:38 GMT 1
Sign the right players to do the job then anywhere in the top 6 is possible,keep hold of mooy and kongolo is a must if at all possible.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Jan 13, 2019 23:08:10 GMT 1
If you found the last 2 seasons boring how the hell did you manage to watch us under Powell, Robins, Grayson, Clark, Ternent, Ritchie etc? I’m really amazed how some people have forgotten that we’ve been utterly shite in performances and results (batting 3 or 4 seasons) for the last 30 odd years. Wagner has transformed this club and he has shown great loyalty in staying here, a rare commodity in football these days. It’s not right in my opinion that we all demanded he stay for the last 3 years and now he’s had a bad few months people are calling for his head. He deserves our loyalty for everything he’s done. Let's hope he repays our loyalty then with winning an instant return then or at least the play offs. The word “entitlement” comes to mind. Enjoy the misery of your lofty expectations never being met....or else go and support a top 6 club instead. But which one? Liverpool were “shite” last season, but great this season. Man City were great last season, but “shite” this season. Man United have been the “worst” team on the planet in recent years, now looking like potential champions....which are you going to decide to support to meet your lofty winning expectations??? Or what about scumbags Leeds instead, top of the second division, perhaps the next Leicester? Choices choices, poor you.
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Post by hd2 on Jan 13, 2019 23:10:38 GMT 1
The 14 who have voted auto going up, the Drs will be back open 1st thing in the morning. I suggest you restock your medication.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 13, 2019 23:17:01 GMT 1
Let's hope he repays our loyalty then with winning an instant return then or at least the play offs. The word “entitlement” comes to mind. Enjoy the misery of your lofty expectations never being met....or else go and support a top 6 club instead. But which one? Liverpool were “shite” last season, but great this season. Man City were great last season, but “shite” this season. Man United have been the “worst” team on the planet in recent years, now looking like potential champions....which are you going to decide to support to meet your lofty winning expectations??? Or what about scumbags Leeds instead, top of the second division, perhaps the next Leicester? Choices choices, poor you. Not really sure what you are actually on about to be fair.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 13, 2019 23:55:34 GMT 1
As I said his style is not conducive to attacking play and goals, I'll be honest Town have been boring to watch under Wagner for the main part despite winning promotion and having a reasonable first Premier League season. I expect Wagner to still be here as Hoyle seems hell bent on keeping him come hell or high water, rightly or wrongly. I just expect it to be more of the same over passing, sideways and backwards, no threat, domination of possession with very little to show for it. It's quite possible Wagner could go and we get another foreign manager who is more capable than Wagner, they are out there Biesla, Huttenhagl so who knows? I would expect us as a minimum to be challenging for the play offs. How on earth have you come to the conclusion that those 2 are more capable? That's just bollocks. If you found the 16/17 season boring I have no idea why you are still supporting Town. He doesn’t and never has
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 14, 2019 0:00:09 GMT 1
How on earth have you come to the conclusion that those 2 are more capable? That's just bollocks. If you found the 16/17 season boring I have no idea why you are still supporting Town. He doesn’t and never has Sorry wrong person I apologise
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Post by thrice on Jan 14, 2019 0:03:09 GMT 1
Challenging for a play off place would have to be a minimum expectation. There is still a lot of football to be played before then & pivotal recruitment required in the summer. I see why folk would be concerned.
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 14, 2019 0:03:24 GMT 1
Invest in a top quality striker a top quality number 10 and a top quality right wing back and I think we would walk it... keeping the existing players also of course!
We won't keep them though. They will be taking huge pay cuts and the bigger clubs will be offering more money. Expect to see a vastly changed team next season
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 0:06:45 GMT 1
In what way is he getting back to his old self? I think he is nothing like the bloke who came in 3 years ago, either in attitude or application.[/quote There is nothing wrong with his attitude or application and to suggest otherwise is without foundation and disrespectfull Can you expand on that, I really do not know what is disrespectful? He has gone from a positive happy individual, full of new and inventive ideas, to a negative inward looking fairly downbeat sounding guy. The teams performances reflect this. If possible please can you answer in something resembling grammatically correct English, and without reverting to capitals every alternative sentence?
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Post by pikeylewis on Jan 14, 2019 0:19:34 GMT 1
not an easy league the Championship, but if cloggers like L..ds can be at the top then there truly is nothing to fear. Leeds would tan us comfortably right now...
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Post by mids on Jan 14, 2019 0:23:09 GMT 1
Plenty of changes ahead with plenty of aspirations to be re-evaluated. Hopefully 2019 is a good year for all concerned, and setbacks can be overcome with terrier spirit and some good will...
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Post by johnr on Jan 14, 2019 0:42:36 GMT 1
If according to the Wagner fan club on here, he is a top coach, then I'm expecting to bounce back but I suspect the reality could well be different. Given the parachute payments and the ability of any players that remain I would expect us to be challenging top 6 at least and will be disappointed if we don't. I'm hoping for a better summer transfer wise too. Why do you expect the reality to be different? And if so, assuming DW stays, what are you expecting? The reality it could be different is obvious.Teams will have learned to play against the way we play and Wagner still wont know how to have good attacking tactics so well still probably struggle to score also good chance well be a bit too careful with the spending and rely too much on loans again which will hold us back. The two most important signings now actually to give them time to get ready but as early as possible in the summer if we cant get them now are bringing in a good psychiatrist and bringing in good attacking tactic coaches to help Wagner.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 14, 2019 7:39:35 GMT 1
Plenty of changes ahead with plenty of aspirations to be re-evaluated. Hopefully 2019 is a good year for all concerned, and setbacks can be overcome with terrier spirit and some good will... That sounds like an officially prepared statement by the club. Are you their speech writer? Terrier Spirit, do me a favour.
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Post by mids on Jan 14, 2019 8:33:18 GMT 1
Plenty of changes ahead with plenty of aspirations to be re-evaluated. Hopefully 2019 is a good year for all concerned, and setbacks can be overcome with terrier spirit and some good will... That sounds like an officially prepared statement by the club. Are you their speech writer? Terrier Spirit, do me a favour. It's probably because I'm reasonably eloquent, and I realise that, in life, some things are more important than short term blips to a sporting club, even when it's Huddersfield Town and all that entails for us all....some more than others.
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Post by sanchez on Jan 14, 2019 8:53:53 GMT 1
If according to the Wagner fan club on here, he is a top coach, then I'm expecting to bounce back but I suspect the reality could well be different. Given the parachute payments and the ability of any players that remain I would expect us to be challenging top 6 at least and will be disappointed if we don't. I'm hoping for a better summer transfer wise too. As far as being a top coach, i would disagree but in the short space of time hes been here he has worked miracles. The current situation is not ideal and many lessons to learn but DW is honest and passionate which is lacking from most managers i see around at the moment. Why cant people support him through this bad patch. He will turn it around. BELIEVE
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 14, 2019 9:03:07 GMT 1
I am curious why some posters think we will be relegated next season? Don’t get me wrong, it’s hard work in Championship but would like to know the reasons. I believe playoffs, however, the way we have played this season we wouldn't be anywhere near the playoffs. We will have no momentum and probably be at an all time low morale wise. I'm optimistic about our chances next season but I can see why people may not be. If we had played like we had this season where we came short breaking down midfields and defences with full internationals and the tactics of the top managers in world football we'd have more than likely won those games. We're on a bloody shit run, but there's barely a handful of games we've not been in. There were many more the year we stayed up. Totally agree re momentum though, and throw in potentially a large number of new players to bed-in and possibly a bit of a disconnect with the fans.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 14, 2019 9:04:21 GMT 1
not an easy league the Championship, but if cloggers like L..ds can be at the top then there truly is nothing to fear. They are far from cloggers.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 14, 2019 9:26:58 GMT 1
not an easy league the Championship, but if cloggers like L..ds can be at the top then there truly is nothing to fear. Leeds would tan us comfortably right now... no they wouldn't.
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Post by champ on Jan 14, 2019 9:47:19 GMT 1
Leeds would tan us comfortably right now... no they wouldn't. They genuinely would...
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Post by drumriggend on Jan 14, 2019 9:51:02 GMT 1
No they wouldn't.. We'd have 80% possession.. And lose 1-0 to a 94th minute breakaway goal from a missed penalty 😳
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Post by champ on Jan 14, 2019 9:54:25 GMT 1
No they wouldn't.. We'd have 80% possession.. And lose 1-0 to a 94th minute breakaway goal from a missed penalty 😳 1 nil would be a good result as things stand...
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 14, 2019 10:25:30 GMT 1
you can lose by a goal and in truth never actually look like winning the game...
being in possession of the ball for long periods is only beneficial if you have ambition for that possession other than just not letting the opposition have it.
conceeding as many goals as we do with more than enough 'defenders' in our own box as the ball hits the net is very worrying in regards to our 'defending' coaching..
the over riding and odd 'fear' of being caught on the break has been replaced by another 'fear' of making a challenge or moving up to the ball when defending our own penalty area..
lots of clear runs to the edge of the box, lots of dropping in and allowing forwards in to get on the end of passes, crosses and a virulent and really annoying number of statues who have got back to just stand around..
the 'expectation' of a glut of goal scorers coming in next season is good because its likely we will have to score 2/3 most games to get a result..
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 14, 2019 10:36:33 GMT 1
No they wouldn't.. We'd have 80% possession.. And lose 1-0 to a 94th minute breakaway goal from a missed penalty 😳 nah we'd get a nailed on penalty in the 85th minute which the referee will give, but after the l..ds players have finished reminding the ref how big a club they are he will award them a penalty instead.
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