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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 20, 2019 23:33:03 GMT 1
What would happen if Salford came up to League 2 and Oldham stayed there. Could he manage against a team he part owns? Like it like it, would be very interesting that one. :-D
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 20, 2019 23:35:30 GMT 1
I bet he his. 11 league titles, 2 European trophy's, Fa cups, league cups, England International etc etc, BUT he's no experience ! For the love of God what's Jan Siewert got more to offer than a bloody whiteboard presentation and coaching the kids at Dortmund ll Worked with youth teams for the DFB (German FA) and also VFL Bochum U19 As well as Assistant Manager to their first team. What has Scholes done other than been a great player? What level of Football has he played ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 23:41:23 GMT 1
Worked with youth teams for the DFB (German FA) and also VFL Bochum U19 As well as Assistant Manager to their first team. What has Scholes done other than been a great player? What level of Football has he played ? Mourinho never played professional football - he's won the championship in 4 different countries. Bobby Charlton won the World Cup, and was useless as a manager. Saying that, Otium is better than the lot, if only he was given Wednesdays off from driving the mower.
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Post by townrwe on Jan 20, 2019 23:44:45 GMT 1
What time is then announcement tonight?
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Post by midlander on Jan 20, 2019 23:45:34 GMT 1
Worked with youth teams for the DFB (German FA) and also VFL Bochum U19 As well as Assistant Manager to their first team. What has Scholes done other than been a great player? What level of Football has he played ? What has that got to do with it? You can be the greatest player in the world. Doesn't mean you can coach. Cleverest kid at school doesn't make the best teacher. You would rather have Scholes because you have heard of him and he has a profile.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 20, 2019 23:49:22 GMT 1
That look a likey today sums up the journalistic speculation & nonsense that's spouted around football...
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Post by ritchie on Jan 20, 2019 23:53:13 GMT 1
scholes was a superb player but if he makes it as a decent manager i'll be amazed. can't even motivate me to watch him talk on tv when its already on the channel
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 20, 2019 23:55:48 GMT 1
What level of Football has he played ? What has that got to do with it? You can be the greatest player in the world. Doesn't mean you can coach. Cleverest kid at school doesn't make the best teacher. You would rather have Scholes because you have heard of him and he has a profile. Yes, and you would if you're honest
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 0:01:19 GMT 1
Great players don't tend to make great managers.
Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger etc.
Pep is a good manager,but I firmly believe he's a myth. He's had 3 silly teams to manage.
The better managers,tend to be the ones either retired really early or had a low end football career, thus learning management along with playing as some have done.
You've great players like Bruce, Robson, Adams, Ince etc. All absolutely garbage.
Scholes may well turn out to be good,but that is probably the best place to learn his trade.
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Post by dirtysteve on Jan 21, 2019 0:14:17 GMT 1
Complete bullshit then I assume.
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Post by pikeylewis on Jan 21, 2019 0:15:12 GMT 1
Great players don't tend to make great managers. Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger etc. Pep is a good manager,but I firmly believe he's a myth. He's had 3 silly teams to manage. The better managers,tend to be the ones either retired really early or had a low end football career, thus learning management along with playing as some have done. You've great players like Bruce, Robson, Adams, Ince etc. All absolutely garbage. Scholes may well turn out to be good,but that is probably the best place to learn his trade. You’re firmly insane
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 21, 2019 0:16:28 GMT 1
Great players don't tend to make great managers. Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger etc. Pep is a good manager,but I firmly believe he's a myth. He's had 3 silly teams to manage. The better managers,tend to be the ones either retired really early or had a low end football career, thus learning management along with playing as some have done. You've great players like Bruce, Robson, Adams, Ince etc. All absolutely garbage. Scholes may well turn out to be good,but that is probably the best place to learn his trade. Don't think you can quite judge Bruce and Robson as being absolute garbage
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 21, 2019 0:18:38 GMT 1
Complete bullshit then I assume. Well it is DATM what do you expect !
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Post by hd2 on Jan 21, 2019 0:19:02 GMT 1
Great players don't tend to make great managers. Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger etc. Pep is a good manager,but I firmly believe he's a myth. He's had 3 silly teams to manage. The better managers,tend to be the ones either retired really early or had a low end football career, thus learning management along with playing as some have done. You've great players like Bruce, Robson, Adams, Ince etc. All absolutely garbage. Scholes may well turn out to be good,but that is probably the best place to learn his trade. Don't think you can quite judge Bruce and Robson as being absolute garbage I’d judge Bruce as a space hopper headed prick.
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 21, 2019 0:21:38 GMT 1
Don't think you can quite judge Bruce and Robson as being absolute garbage I’d judge Bruce as a space hopper headed prick. Neither have done badly as managers though. If Wagner achieves as much as what they have then he won't have had a bad career
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 0:23:54 GMT 1
Don't think you can quite judge Bruce and Robson as being absolute garbage I’d judge Bruce as a space hopper headed prick. That's undoubtedly true. But he's still taken two teams up from the Championship twice. Four promotions ain't bad going.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 0:25:26 GMT 1
Great players don't tend to make great managers. Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger etc. Pep is a good manager,but I firmly believe he's a myth. He's had 3 silly teams to manage. The better managers,tend to be the ones either retired really early or had a low end football career, thus learning management along with playing as some have done. You've great players like Bruce, Robson, Adams, Ince etc. All absolutely garbage. Scholes may well turn out to be good,but that is probably the best place to learn his trade. You’re firmly insane Pep is a myth. Bayern, Barca and now Man City. Had it hard really..... As negative as he has gone, Mourinho took Porto and flipped them, European Cup with an average team compared to others in the competition. Wonder if Pep could win it with them? He won't get to the semis with Man City. His achievements are good at Barca and Bayern, but even if it wasn't him there, you expect them 2 to be in the semis or final every other year at least,past history tells you they've always done well in Europe along with the league.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 0:27:13 GMT 1
Great players don't tend to make great managers. Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger etc. Pep is a good manager,but I firmly believe he's a myth. He's had 3 silly teams to manage. The better managers,tend to be the ones either retired really early or had a low end football career, thus learning management along with playing as some have done. You've great players like Bruce, Robson, Adams, Ince etc. All absolutely garbage. Scholes may well turn out to be good,but that is probably the best place to learn his trade. Don't think you can quite judge Bruce and Robson as being absolute garbage Premier League standard I wouldn't touch them. As opposed to your Mourinhos and Wenger's they are. Maybe a tad harsh on the garbage part, but the point being a great player doesn't make you a great manager. The better ones have come from nowhere
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 0:28:42 GMT 1
I’d judge Bruce as a space hopper headed prick. That's undoubtedly true. But he's still taken two teams up from the Championship twice. Four promotions ain't bad going. I was harsh on the garbage, but we are talking about Championship. Good achievement, but for a great player he hasn't managed at the top. Like some on here think that being a tip player, top manager etc. The better managers come from nowhere
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Post by hd2 on Jan 21, 2019 0:35:05 GMT 1
I’d judge Bruce as a space hopper headed prick. Neither have done badly as managers though. If Wagner achieves as much as what they have then he won't have had a bad career I can’t disagree, their records overall are hardly garbage.
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Post by hd2 on Jan 21, 2019 0:36:07 GMT 1
I’d judge Bruce as a space hopper headed prick. That's undoubtedly true. But he's still taken two teams up from the Championship twice. Four promotions ain't bad going. That’s correct, my distaste for him blinds me from his later achievements.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 21, 2019 0:47:45 GMT 1
That's undoubtedly true. But he's still taken two teams up from the Championship twice. Four promotions ain't bad going. I was harsh on the garbage, but we are talking about Championship. Good achievement, but for a great player he hasn't managed at the top. Like some on here think that being a tip player, top manager etc. The better managers come from nowhere Are you happy to have Jan Siewert has the new Town manager ? If so that's great. I personally don't think lightening will strike twice but let's see
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 0:54:13 GMT 1
I was harsh on the garbage, but we are talking about Championship. Good achievement, but for a great player he hasn't managed at the top. Like some on here think that being a tip player, top manager etc. The better managers come from nowhere Are you happy to have Jan Siewert has the new Town manager ? If so that's great. I personally don't think lightening will strike twice but let's see It already has, Farke, Wagners replacement at Dortmund is taking Norwich up.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 21, 2019 1:13:55 GMT 1
Are you happy to have Jan Siewert has the new Town manager ? If so that's great. I personally don't think lightening will strike twice but let's see It already has, Farke, Wagners replacement at Dortmund is taking Norwich up. It's the Webber factor Cods, this job we have to get right this time
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Post by pikeylewis on Jan 21, 2019 1:26:29 GMT 1
Pep is a myth. Bayern, Barca and now Man City. Had it hard really..... As negative as he has gone, Mourinho took Porto and flipped them, European Cup with an average team compared to others in the competition. Wonder if Pep could win it with them? He won't get to the semis with Man City. His achievements are good at Barca and Bayern, but even if it wasn't him there, you expect them 2 to be in the semis or final every other year at least,past history tells you they've always done well in Europe along with the league. Peps ability to transfer his footballing philosophy onto a football pitch is 2nd to none. A truly world class football coach.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 1:50:26 GMT 1
It already has, Farke, Wagners replacement at Dortmund is taking Norwich up. It's the Webber factor Cods, this job we have to get right this time The fact is you said lightning doesn't strike twice, it did. Don't think Webber picks Dortmund managers for them, they seem to do that quite well. At the end of the day it's a gamble whoever comes in, some pay off, some don't. Dean says he now knows what a decent manager looks like, let's hope he's right.
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Post by ponteterrier on Jan 21, 2019 2:46:43 GMT 1
It's the Webber factor Cods, this job we have to get right this time The fact is you said lightning doesn't strike twice, it did. Don't think Webber picks Dortmund managers for them, they seem to do that quite well. At the end of the day it's a gamble whoever comes in, some pay off, some don't. Dean says he now knows what a decent manager looks like, let's hope he's right. Drum roll for Alan Pardew please!!
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 21, 2019 7:32:57 GMT 1
It's the Webber factor Cods, this job we have to get right this time The fact is you said lightning doesn't strike twice, it did. Don't think Webber picks Dortmund managers for them, they seem to do that quite well. At the end of the day it's a gamble whoever comes in, some pay off, some don't. Dean says he now knows what a decent manager looks like, let's hope he's right. It's the DOF job we need to get right for recruitment, give the new man something to work with. Wagner would still be here if that job had been right in the first place. Norwich mean nothing to me, I'm on about lightning striking twice at Town. If it was that simple everybody would be doing this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 7:46:13 GMT 1
So, Martin from Wakefield is our new manager. Another left field appointment. At least he should be familiar with the Card factory, even if he's a Citeh fan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 7:49:21 GMT 1
If Siewert gets the gig, that guy absolutely HAS to be brought out at the press conference. A lot of great leaders employ body doubles, especially for dangerous business. Siewart could send Martin to Millwall away, for example, should we meet them.
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