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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 27, 2019 8:42:50 GMT 1
Where will the goals come from? Man City have scored more this month than we have scored in 13 months. Quite incredible in a game of narrow fortunes.
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Post by shawsie on Jan 27, 2019 9:02:58 GMT 1
Where will the goals come from? Man City have scored more this month than we have scored in 13 months. Quite incredible in a game of narrow fortunes. Narrow fortunes? 1.4bn plus 250m pa on wages ..... Versus 70m plus 50m on wages! That's a chasm oti. Football only cares about the cash fella......Burnley got battered yday. Top 5 apart it may be narrow - as we have seen v Everton already this season, but the top 5 are miles away from the rest and sadly disappearing ever faster.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 27, 2019 9:29:45 GMT 1
Where will the goals come from? Man City have scored more this month than we have scored in 13 months. Quite incredible in a game of narrow fortunes. Mole Smooth pointed out yesterday, a Premier League team played another Premier League team yesterday and were 40/1, Newport were 7’s against Middlesbrough
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Post by drumriggend on Jan 27, 2019 9:55:54 GMT 1
Where will the goals come from? Man City have scored more this month than we have scored in 13 months. Quite incredible in a game of narrow fortunes. Money makes the football world go round . To compare us with the Abu Dhabi billionaires is ridiculous bro
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Post by froggyterrier on Jan 27, 2019 10:09:05 GMT 1
Two nil Town win. Scrappy goal from a set piece and a late Mbenza counter.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 27, 2019 10:54:31 GMT 1
Where will the goals come from? Man City have scored more this month than we have scored in 13 months. Quite incredible in a game of narrow fortunes. Narrow fortunes? 1.4bn plus 250m pa on wages ..... Versus 70m plus 50m on wages! That's a chasm oti. Football only cares about the cash fella......Burnley got battered yday. Top 5 apart it may be narrow - as we have seen v Everton already this season, but the top 5 are miles away from the rest and sadly disappearing ever faster. As much as it is money which guarantees success (in the long run and on average) there is no reason why teams get gubbed 5-0 and 9-0. I also believe that the financial disparity will destroy football as we know it. Even if Man City were allowed to sign any player they wanted for free they should not be scoring at a rate of 14 times a professional outfit.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 27, 2019 10:55:49 GMT 1
Where will the goals come from? Man City have scored more this month than we have scored in 13 months. Quite incredible in a game of narrow fortunes. Mole Smooth pointed out yesterday, a Premier League team played another Premier League team yesterday and were 40/1, Newport were 7’s against Middlesbrough Remarkable in itself. I know they were 20/1 earlier in the week...must have seriously lengthened....presume they made a lot of changes?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 27, 2019 10:58:28 GMT 1
Mole Smooth pointed out yesterday, a Premier League team played another Premier League team yesterday and were 40/1, Newport were 7’s against Middlesbrough Remarkable in itself. I know they were 20/1 earlier in the week...must have seriously lengthened....presume they made a lot of changes? It is remarkable. Even if Burnley had been 100/1 I still wouldn’t have backed them.
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Post by Lard Buttie on Jan 27, 2019 11:26:49 GMT 1
We've been a very benevolent team this season gifting wins to other teams & managers who were under pressure.
Tuesday will be no different IMO.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 27, 2019 11:37:56 GMT 1
Where will the goals come from? Man City have scored more this month than we have scored in 13 months. Quite incredible in a game of narrow fortunes. Money makes the football world go round . To compare us with the Abu Dhabi billionaires is ridiculous bro He wasn't, there are probably teams outside the top 6 who scored that many in 5 games,more games granted but I honestly do not know why some Town fans make excuses for us in the goalscoring department.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Jan 27, 2019 11:51:29 GMT 1
Let's hope for lots of set pieces and despite the poor form of LDP and Mounie I think there's a strong argument for playing them both against Everton after watching them on MOTD. I'm not sure I want to see LDP play for us again. I don't think it is good for us or him. He has been monumentally poor this season. There's always the possibility a new manager could give him a kick up the ass which is probably what he needs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 12:10:05 GMT 1
I'm not sure I want to see LDP play for us again. I don't think it is good for us or him. He has been monumentally poor this season. There's always the possibility a new manager could give him a kick up the ass which is probably what he needs. Yep, I hope so. I hate writing lads off but his deterioration this season has really wound me up. You are right though, he deserves a chance under the new boss.
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Post by townatheart on Jan 27, 2019 12:19:05 GMT 1
We've been a very benevolent team this season gifting wins to other teams & managers who were under pressure. Tuesday will be no different IMO. History says you are most likely to be spot on there, or as the old saying goes "sad but true". We must hope for the odd exception to the rule heh
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 12:52:57 GMT 1
Where will the goals come from? Man City have scored more this month than we have scored in 13 months. Quite incredible in a game of narrow fortunes. Narrow fortunes? 1.4bn plus 250m pa on wages ..... Versus 70m plus 50m on wages! That's a chasm oti. Football only cares about the cash fella......Burnley got battered yday. Top 5 apart it may be narrow - as we have seen v Everton already this season, but the top 5 are miles away from the rest and sadly disappearing ever faster. There is a chasm but what money we have had, it could be argued has been wasted Poor recruitment and a poor tactical approach this season has arguably neutralised any potential spending benefits. Weve not had any interest in this window for any/many of our signings which probably confirms this. Weve enhanced the chasm. In any case we are only playing Everton not Citeh. Heres hoping a fresh approach from Jan the Man makes us more competitive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 16:28:35 GMT 1
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 27, 2019 16:37:24 GMT 1
Money makes the football world go round . To compare us with the Abu Dhabi billionaires is ridiculous bro He wasn't, there are probably teams outside the top 6 who scored that many in 5 games,more games granted but I honestly do not know why some Town fans make excuses for us in the goalscoring department. when you consider that we scored 4 at watford and 4 vs bournemouth, looking at our goals scored column since promotion is really bad. its got to be Jan's number one priority to address this dire situation imho
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 27, 2019 16:51:32 GMT 1
when you consider that we scored 4 at watford and 4 vs bournemouth, looking at our goals scored column since promotion is really bad. its got to be Jan's number one priority to address this dire situation imho Agreed, wonder where is was in terms of priority for the previous manager?After the Spuds home game last season, DW switched to trying to keep the score down most weeks, you carry on like that for any length of time and eventually you forget how to score.
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Post by froggyterrier on Jan 27, 2019 16:51:40 GMT 1
Don't need to flog the dead horse that Wagner didn't set up to attack enough. His approach is all about not making mistakes and maximising our control of the game. Unfortunately that means not taking any risks and if you don't take any risks, you don't cause problems, force mistakes and score goals.
If he had Dortmund or any other top sides individually brilliant attackers to work with, the team would have scored through them.
If he was still setting up against championship opposition, the lower quality players would have made more unforced mistakes and also been less threatening to us.
At the start of last season we won our first 2 games, got off to a flyer and believed in ourselves. Which kept us up.
Not this season so far.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 27, 2019 19:22:47 GMT 1
Remarkable in itself. I know they were 20/1 earlier in the week...must have seriously lengthened....presume they made a lot of changes? It is remarkable. Even if Burnley had been 100/1 I still wouldn’t have backed them. Then you would have been a fool. 1000/1...a million to one? At what odds would you back them? All betting amounts to is value...are you getting better odds than the probability of it happening. Had i been able to get 100/1 Burnley i would have put 10 grand on. I see Messi scored today..thats 26 goals this season...twice Towns entire total. I think i am correct in saying both he and Ronaldo have outscored Town the last 5 years.
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Post by explorer on Jan 27, 2019 19:59:50 GMT 1
It is remarkable. Even if Burnley had been 100/1 I still wouldn’t have backed them. Then you would have been a fool. 1000/1...a million to one? At what odds would you back them? All betting amounts to is value...are you getting better odds than the probability of it happening. Had i been able to get 100/1 Burnley i would have put 10 grand on. I see Messi scored today..thats 26 goals this season...twice Towns entire total I think i am correct in saying both he and Ronaldo have outscored Town the last 5 years. Oti - do you spend all your waking hours trying to find new and ever more contrived ways to stick the knife into Town’s (lack of) goalscoring prowess? I think we all know the situation, thanks - maybe you need some new material, it’s like Groundhog Day, pal.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 27, 2019 20:04:33 GMT 1
It is remarkable. Even if Burnley had been 100/1 I still wouldn’t have backed them. Then you would have been a fool. 1000/1...a million to one? At what odds would you back them? All betting amounts to is value...are you getting better odds than the probability of it happening. Had i been able to get 100/1 Burnley i would have put 10 grand on. I see Messi scored today..thats 26 goals this season...twice Towns entire total. I think i am correct in saying both he and Ronaldo have outscored Town the last 5 years. I can’t answer at what odds I would have staked but I can say with 100% certainty at 100/1 I would not. Im hardly a fool for not backing a team that lost but I get your point.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 27, 2019 20:14:37 GMT 1
Oti - do you spend all your waking hours trying to find new and ever more contrived ways to stick the knife into Town’s (lack of) goalscoring prowess? I think we all know the situation, thanks - maybe you need some new material, it’s like Groundhog Day, pal. Been 7 years but no-one is listening. I could fix it
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 27, 2019 20:17:19 GMT 1
Then you would have been a fool. 1000/1...a million to one? At what odds would you back them? All betting amounts to is value...are you getting better odds than the probability of it happening. Had i been able to get 100/1 Burnley i would have put 10 grand on. I see Messi scored today..thats 26 goals this season...twice Towns entire total. I think i am correct in saying both he and Ronaldo have outscored Town the last 5 years. I can’t answer at what odds I would have staked but I can say with 100% certainty at 100/1 I would not. Im hardly a fool for not backing a team that lost but I get your point. Then you would be wrong Joey. Professional gamblers make their own odds, if the bookmakers are better they pounce. 100/1 would have been a once in a lifetime opportunity. I would have steamed in. As the saying goes "dont give me a winner, give me a price".
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Post by explorer on Jan 27, 2019 20:17:22 GMT 1
Been 7 years but no-one is listening. I could fix it Well I’m not one for wearing replica shirts but I’d make an exception with an “Otium” 9 shirt if you proved to be the answer...😉
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 27, 2019 20:22:56 GMT 1
Been 7 years but no-one is listening. I could fix it Well I’m not one for wearing replica shirts but I’d make an exception with an “Otium” 9 shirt if you proved to be the answer...😉 I could make a difference in a hundred ways. Time management on the pitch, long throws, central probes rather than down the wings. Novel set-pieces. Long ball when the oppos are out of position. Use maths and analytics in every single moment of the game...right down to substitutions. Ever seen an American football game kick off and within 10 seconds he entire team is replaced by subs? I would do that when we had possession or when we lost it...a total transformation of shape and tactics dependent on who had the ball and where. Far more radical than any manager who ever lived.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 27, 2019 20:26:29 GMT 1
Wagner believed if you have it the oppos cant score...well they will eventually and it it only needs one if you dont score. He got high on the 17 1-0 wins in the Champs...5 or 6 of those were lucky. All those passes to Lossl...40 a match. Mind blowing failure. He will be remembered for getting us up. He wont be remembered for creating the most boring, sterile, impotent Town team in 3 generations because memory is flawed.
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Post by explorer on Jan 27, 2019 20:44:21 GMT 1
Well I’m not one for wearing replica shirts but I’d make an exception with an “Otium” 9 shirt if you proved to be the answer...😉 I could make a difference in a hundred ways. Time management on the pitch, long throws, central probes rather than down the wings. Novel set-pieces. Long ball when the oppos are out of position. Use maths and analytics in every single moment of the game...right down to substitutions. Ever seen an American football game kick off and within 10 seconds he entire team is replaced by subs? I would do that when we had possession or when we lost it...a total transformation of shape and tactics dependent on who had the ball and where. Far more radical than any manager who ever lived. I think your plans might fall down on the bit where you are expecting your modern-day footballer to be able to understand, let alone implement multiple tactical plans. Our lot haven’t even mastered “Plan A” yet!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 21:03:27 GMT 1
Wagner believed if you have it the oppos cant score...well they will eventually and it it only needs one if you dont score. He got high on the 17 1-0 wins in the Champs...5 or 6 of those were lucky. All those passes to Lossl...40 a match. Mind blowing failure. He will be remembered for getting us up. He wont be remembered for creating the most boring, sterile, impotent Town team in 3 generations because memory is flawed. 5 or 6 lucky wins eh. Do you think we have been unlucky at any point this season or does that not fit in with your (interesting to say the least) opinion
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Post by townrwe on Jan 27, 2019 21:03:40 GMT 1
Let's hope it's a big Change in system/ideas.
I'd like
LOSSL Hadj schindler zanka Kongolo Hogg Billing Mbenza Mooy Diakhaby Mounie
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 27, 2019 21:18:53 GMT 1
Oti, hasn't someone told you the rules?
You're only allowed to hijack a thread after the game...
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