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Post by turbo2 on Dec 11, 2022 20:53:55 GMT 1
I remember reading folk saying we could do a Barnsley and I thought they were mad. Then Carlos walks, our best players sold and DS gets the job along with the same BS as when we gave sievert the job. We are an utter car crash. Pathetic really. We’re league 1 with 40m debt. Be lucky if we don’t go to the wall. The promotion to the PL might just be the worst thing to ever happen to our club. Incredible Whilst I agree with most of that, getting promoted to the PL was not the worst thing to happen to the club. We pissed millions and millions away due to shite management on and off the field. Getting to the PL could have stabilised our club for years and years to come but we managed to balls it all up. They key word ‘could’
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Post by westislandterrier on Dec 11, 2022 21:04:54 GMT 1
Bloody Hell ! - As if the self inflicted hangover from hell isn’t bad enough - I’ve just got round to checking yesterday’s championship scores as The footy bar had the Portugal v Morocco game on yesterday and jeez oh low and behold Blackpool, Hull, Wigan, Cardiff, Stoke and Bristol City all gained a point or points on Town ( in Hull and Wigan’s case v teams in fifth and seventh place respectively)
It’s been the same all season and is close to mortally wounding HTAFC and edging us closer to League one -
All that’s needed now is for WBA to pick up something at Sunderland tomorrow evening to really complete a truly gruesome weekend of football results !
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 11, 2022 21:06:18 GMT 1
It took two years to sort the disaster that Hoyle left us after the premier league. He comes back in to a club challenging at the top end of the championship, less than 12 months later we're rock bottom of the league owing him £40m?
Is this the premier league legacy he promised?
Custodian my arse!
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Post by tepidterrier on Dec 11, 2022 21:08:14 GMT 1
there's a lot of years ahead for town as a club. we'll be in the third tier at some point. bouncing between the middle two a couple of times every 15 years or so, with the odd surprise excursion above or below, is our natural place in the grand scheme.
if we go down and it draws a line under this era and its mistakes, then good. The last few years have been like a slow motion car crash, to the point that I didn't enjoy last season as much as I should've, because I knew the foundations weren't strong enough to build on a good season. I'd take a few years in the top half of league one over another season of scraping by at best in the championship.
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Dec 11, 2022 21:37:01 GMT 1
I walked out of Wembley in May thoroughly frustrated with what had been a miserable afternoon, on every level. It was quite a contrast to that most wonderful day in 2017. I also had a hope we might be able to go again but, and I can't explain this, I had an underlying foreboding about where we were heading. In the last six months I have not attended an away game (which is unheard of), I have also walked out of a game with more than 30 minutes to go (PNE home in the League Cup, as documented on here). I have witnessed a club that had last season created a new identity for itself, against the odds it looked as though we were looking back up again. What has happened since Jon Moss blew his final whistle has almost beggared belief. UTT I think you meant to say: since Jon Moss blew his whistle to start the game, because he was never gonna let us win from the first minute of the match. I'm not surprised where we are now, in fact I predicted in the Champ Predictions League we'd finish bottom. I think I was the only person that predicted we'd even be relegated. I genuinely couldn't work out why people were so optimistic we'd do well again. I've long resigned myself to League One next season, and for the next few seasons after that. Sorry if this sounds negative but that's how I feel.
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Post by shawsie on Dec 11, 2022 21:50:30 GMT 1
Was just thinking similar today. Is today's Burnley team any stronger than the team we started the Championship with under Siewart? It is weaker than a Burnley team we beat 2-1 12 months ago in the FA Cup. A Burnley team bereft of any sort of confidence. Yet they have turned the corner and are better for it. I keep trying to find ways but I cannot forgive Hoyle for the mistakes he made. Its not a question of forgiveness to me......its an if you love the club, stabilise it first and then move on if and when you can. As it is we are lurching towards being doomed by new years day and the coach says he cant sign anyone in jan! There is material improvement on the pitch with fitness and organisation - sorry danny but the former was disgraceful under your brief tenor! BUT if you cant create or score goals you are going down and it looks bleak right now. DH has invested over many years now and deserves praise for that...... but hes made some shocking football decisions which have cheap option written all over them since we came back to the championship. Wagner excepted theyve been really poor tbh.....
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Post by iangreaves on Dec 11, 2022 21:54:30 GMT 1
there's a lot of years ahead for town as a club. we'll be in the third tier at some point. bouncing between the middle two a couple of times every 15 years or so, with the odd surprise excursion above or below, is our natural place in the grand scheme. if we go down and it draws a line under this era and its mistakes, then good. The last few years have been like a slow motion car crash, to the point that I didn't enjoy last season as much as I should've, because I knew the foundations weren't strong enough to build on a good season. I'd take a few years in the top half of league one over another season of scraping by at best in the championship.My fear is we would struggle in League One.
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Post by runner76 on Dec 11, 2022 22:00:32 GMT 1
Don’t mind a relegation so long as it’s followed by successive promotions
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 11, 2022 22:00:45 GMT 1
there's a lot of years ahead for town as a club. we'll be in the third tier at some point. bouncing between the middle two a couple of times every 15 years or so, with the odd surprise excursion above or below, is our natural place in the grand scheme. if we go down and it draws a line under this era and its mistakes, then good. The last few years have been like a slow motion car crash, to the point that I didn't enjoy last season as much as I should've, because I knew the foundations weren't strong enough to build on a good season. I'd take a few years in the top half of league one over another season of scraping by at best in the championship.My fear is we would struggle in League One. I said a few weeks ago. This had got the 1970s written all over it. I really fear for us.
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Post by ben1987 on Dec 11, 2022 22:08:50 GMT 1
The thing that hurts me the most isn’t even relegation, it’s the fact that the entire soul, identity and passion of the club has been sucked out and the person that’s done that has decided that he no longer gives a fuck and he’s not prepared to do anything about the piss poor decisions he’s made since 2018 and as the OP said, there’s nothing we can do. And this free fall we are in may not stop at league one.
January will be interesting, not for who we bring in but with who gets moved on. Bromby is already busy punting our big earners about to other clubs, this slide isn’t going to stop - the entire club is rotten to the core and elements of it have been for some time.
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Post by westislandterrier on Dec 11, 2022 22:19:13 GMT 1
Don’t mind a relegation so long as it’s followed by successive promotions Well one thing on my bucket list is for Huddersfield Town to be crowned champions of League 1 / Division 3 as we’ve not done it yet and it would complete the set... That said I’ll be delighted if HTAFC finish 21st and that wish doesn’t have to come true just yet !
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Post by boooothy on Dec 11, 2022 22:30:15 GMT 1
Can anyone enlighten us as to what would have happen had we won at Wembley?
Would Phil just have paid Dean back, taken ownership and flogged us?
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Post by Moooooy on Dec 11, 2022 22:35:43 GMT 1
there's a lot of years ahead for town as a club. we'll be in the third tier at some point. bouncing between the middle two a couple of times every 15 years or so, with the odd surprise excursion above or below, is our natural place in the grand scheme. if we go down and it draws a line under this era and its mistakes, then good. The last few years have been like a slow motion car crash, to the point that I didn't enjoy last season as much as I should've, because I knew the foundations weren't strong enough to build on a good season. I'd take a few years in the top half of league one over another season of scraping by at best in the championship.My fear is we would struggle in League One. Yep. If we go down I think we’d be far more likely to drop again than bounce back up. League One is a pain in the arse to get out of.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 11, 2022 22:37:16 GMT 1
Carlos Corberan was known as a hothead at Town and resigned more than once during the course of last season only to change his mind and decide he wanted to stay. Funny how this never gets mentioned? Also funny how it never gets mentioned how he tried to go back on his resignation in July but Hoyle had had enough of him doing it. If any of that's true, in doing so, Hoyle completely fucked us
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 11, 2022 22:40:12 GMT 1
It took two years to sort the disaster that Hoyle left us after the premier league. He comes back in to a club challenging at the top end of the championship, less than 12 months later we're rock bottom of the league owing him £40m? Is this the premier league legacy he promised? Custodian my arse! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Post by bluebeard on Dec 11, 2022 22:44:33 GMT 1
If getting to the promised land ruins this club! we wont be the first and we wont be the last and the whole of English football is riddled with clubs with massive debts. Who ever the new owner are need to have a complete clear out and start a fresh even if it means getting relegated to bounce back.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 11, 2022 22:46:42 GMT 1
Must admit, I've gone since I was a toddler, had a season ticket since I left school in 86 but, at the moment, I can't find the interest or enjoyment to think about renewing next year.
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 11, 2022 22:52:54 GMT 1
Must admit, I've gone since I was a toddler, had a season ticket since I left school in 86 but, at the moment, I can't find the interest or enjoyment to think about renewing next year. Just how I’m feeling. First game was 1977. Season Ticket until I was 17 and started playing Saturday myself. Still watched whenever possible. Then when my kids were born and I’d stopped playing I started going again. My eldest is 21 over Christmas and has lost interest totally. The youngest will be going away to university in September. Can’t see what is going to convince me to renew at the moment. It’s becoming a chore
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Post by 28901 on Dec 11, 2022 22:55:25 GMT 1
I walked out of Wembley in May thoroughly frustrated with what had been a miserable afternoon, on every level. It was quite a contrast to that most wonderful day in 2017. I also had a hope we might be able to go again but, and I can't explain this, I had an underlying foreboding about where we were heading. In the last six months I have not attended an away game (which is unheard of), I have also walked out of a game with more than 30 minutes to go (PNE home in the League Cup, as documented on here). I have witnessed a club that had last season created a new identity for itself, against the odds it looked as though we were looking back up again. What has happened since Jon Moss blew his final whistle has almost beggared belief. I look at our squad and I see a lack of quality in key areas. I see potentially good players not quite being good enough yet. I see a rookie coach with a positive outlook but little evidence of the magic touch we need to take us forward and out of trouble. Off the pitch our owner has decided to draw stumps on his tenure, but with little more than "it's time to go". The club functions but has no energy or purpose, it's like the lights are being kept on but to give the impression someone is at home. I sit and watch,I discuss, I debate but I know there is absolutely nothing I can do other than turn up for games. I turn up. at home, and get absolutely nothing back in the way of hope that this downward spiral is going to be halted. In 43 years I have seen many dire games and seasons but I always had hope of better. Right now that hope has been eroded. Why did I post this? In the naive hope that someone who can directly influence our future positively reads and wants to do something. The reasons why we are here have been well debated. It's now time for someone to pick us up, kick us up the backside and get us moving forward again. As ever I hope for the best but my reality sense tells me to expect the worst. UTT This 👏👏👏
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 11, 2022 22:57:04 GMT 1
You just know that we'll make an absolute pigs ear of bouncing back first time too. I'd say we're more likely to go down again than come straight back
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Post by 28901 on Dec 11, 2022 23:05:16 GMT 1
Carlos Corberan was known as a hothead at Town and resigned more than once during the course of last season only to change his mind and decide he wanted to stay. Funny how this never gets mentioned? Also funny how it never gets mentioned how he tried to go back on his resignation in July but Hoyle had had enough of him doing it. Funny how you have no evidence. I can type a load of abuse about someone on a forum but it woiluld be meaningless.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 11, 2022 23:06:32 GMT 1
You just know that we'll make an absolute pigs ear of bouncing back first time too. I'd say we're more likely to go down again than come straight back We'll be down there for decades again. Like the three other times.
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 11, 2022 23:07:36 GMT 1
You just know that we'll make an absolute pigs ear of bouncing back first time too. I'd say we're more likely to go down again than come straight back I can never get it out of my head, when we were relegated from the PL and so many were saying the chuckle bros were going to rip the championship apart. Lol. Relegation will be an absolute nightmare. And anyone who thinks it’ll be a breeze getting back is delusional
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Post by hthp on Dec 11, 2022 23:08:59 GMT 1
Carlos Corberan was known as a hothead at Town and resigned more than once during the course of last season only to change his mind and decide he wanted to stay. Funny how this never gets mentioned? Also funny how it never gets mentioned how he tried to go back on his resignation in July but Hoyle had had enough of him doing it. Funny how you have no evidence. I can type a load of abuse about someone on a forum but it woiluld be meaningless. That comes from a club employee. Interesting how you haven't questioned "sociallydistant" and what they've posted. Type as much abuse as you like, it's a free country.
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Post by tepidterrier on Dec 11, 2022 23:09:12 GMT 1
Carlos Corberan was known as a hothead at Town and resigned more than once during the course of last season only to change his mind and decide he wanted to stay. Funny how this never gets mentioned? Also funny how it never gets mentioned how he tried to go back on his resignation in July but Hoyle had had enough of him doing it. first time I've heard any of these claims and I'm probably not the only one in that boat. I'm sure they'd be mentioned more if they were more well known or established truths.
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Post by hthp on Dec 11, 2022 23:10:53 GMT 1
Carlos Corberan was known as a hothead at Town and resigned more than once during the course of last season only to change his mind and decide he wanted to stay. Funny how this never gets mentioned? Also funny how it never gets mentioned how he tried to go back on his resignation in July but Hoyle had had enough of him doing it. first time I've heard any of these claims and I'm probably not the only one in that boat. I'm sure they'd be mentioned more if they were more well known or established truths. I'm sure you'll question "sociallydistant" as well, in that case, and not just me.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 11, 2022 23:14:31 GMT 1
Don’t mind a relegation so long as it’s followed by successive promotions Things that never happen to Town. Three times Town have gone below this level in their history.Roughly from memory because I can't be arsed looking it up... 1973 Took us till 83 to get back up plus 5 years in the basement. 1986 Took us until 94 2001 Stayed there until 2012 including 1 year in the 4th Rotherham Barnsley etc. we ain't.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 11, 2022 23:16:03 GMT 1
Funny how you have no evidence. I can type a load of abuse about someone on a forum but it woiluld be meaningless. That comes from a club employee. Interesting how you haven't questioned "sociallydistant" and what they've posted. Type as much abuse as you like, it's a free country. Its not abuse. Its the first time I've read that and I've no idea who you are..so why should I take it as truth!
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Dec 11, 2022 23:23:25 GMT 1
Don’t mind a relegation so long as it’s followed by successive promotions Things that never happen to Town. Three times Town have gone below this level in their history.Roughly from memory because I can't be arsed looking it up... 1973 Took us till 83 to get back up plus 5 years in the basement. 1986 Took us until 94 2001 Stayed there until 2012 including 1 year in the 4th Rotherham Barnsley etc. we ain't. So on average it takes us 10 years to get back to this level. What a depressing thought to bottom out a totally depressing weekend.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 11, 2022 23:27:44 GMT 1
Things that never happen to Town. Three times Town have gone below this level in their history.Roughly from memory because I can't be arsed looking it up... 1973 Took us till 83 to get back up plus 5 years in the basement. 1986 Took us until 94 2001 Stayed there until 2012 including 1 year in the 4th Rotherham Barnsley etc. we ain't. So on average it takes us 10 years to get back to this level. What a depressing thought to bottom out a totally depressing weekend. Roughly yes. Plus a relegation. I probably won't be here in 10 years to be fair Just to cheer you up.
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