boooothy
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Post by boooothy on Oct 24, 2023 22:34:49 GMT 1
These latest suits seem like a more expensive version of Bromby without the bullshit communication.
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Oct 24, 2023 22:35:10 GMT 1
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Post by townrwe on Oct 24, 2023 22:35:10 GMT 1
As for the poll ive seen enough to know he shouldn't even make the Leeds game, never mind next season.
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Oct 24, 2023 22:36:57 GMT 1
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Oct 24, 2023 22:36:57 GMT 1
These latest suits seem like a more expensive version of Bromby without the bullshit communication. To be fair at least Bromby found Rudoni and Helik. He could find players, but he was just all over the place with appointing gaffers. Cartwright doesn’t seem able to do either.
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Post by ricksta on Oct 24, 2023 22:39:37 GMT 1
I think it’s 10 months… which made the long term plan stuff all the more stupid. Ferguson was saved by Mark Robins goal allegedly he would have been gone long before that in todays game hence why ‘legacies’ are a thing of the past. Only four managers since 1988 have lasted three years or longer at Town. That is an interesting stat …..and we have had 5 substantive managers in the last 18 months!!!
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 22:41:08 GMT 1
Remember we had to get him whilst he was available.. absolute bollocks. But our man from Portugal says he's a great coach and performed miracles to get such a poor Wednesday squad promoted last season 🙄🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Up the Duff. on Oct 24, 2023 22:41:50 GMT 1
Tactically inept and no man management. Standing on the sidelines in training constantly shouting well done and yes yes yes does not cut it.
Anyone see Gary O'Neil last night on mondsy night football?
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Moore
Oct 24, 2023 22:42:05 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 22:42:05 GMT 1
Darren Boore is thick as mince.. . He makes Fotheringham look like Sven. He can't even string a coherent sentence together for a post match interview, so no wonder the players look so confused if he's trying to give them instructions. Just over emphasises buzz words.. I can't see anything other than a second arsehole at 2.15 on Saturday. Was he "commending" the players tonight ? The fuckwit.
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Oct 24, 2023 22:43:41 GMT 1
Remember we had to get him whilst he was available.. absolute bollocks. But our man from Portugal says he's a great coach and performed miracles to get such a poor Wednesday squad promoted last season 🙄🤣🤣🤣 I didn’t name him in my earlier post, but he defended MF too, clearly likes to be controversial… I wonder if he has ever been wrong!
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Post by bluebell on Oct 24, 2023 22:44:43 GMT 1
Moores post match interview is pathetic, he thinks we played well on saturday and we ere just off it tonight? we played well for 20 minutes on saturday, then tonights game carried on from saturdays game.
This man is not right for us in any shape or form. If he loses to leeds/ gets embarrsed by leeds i would sack him saturday night.
The players looked so disintersted tonight, they lacked intersted throughout the game. He doesn't have the presence that commands respect . in what is a sort span of a time at town, we have lost 4-1 and 4-0 in that time, says his motivational skills are shocking or the players just don't care about what he is saying. Qpr for 75 minutes os shocking and tonight for the full 90 was a embarresment. We never started tonight and cardiff won easily.
If Nagle and co think this man can take us to the prem, what prem is this the northern prem ? He is clueless and sounds just as bad pre and post match.
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Post by drewden on Oct 24, 2023 22:45:39 GMT 1
Not knee-jerk, just wanted to test the room. It's still early days, and the squad is average at best, but I expected better TBH. For me he doesn't look inspirational in any shape or form. It's all a big plan for Moore, we are failing that badly till January, that Nagle gets so pissed off, he says to Moore, spend, spend, spend, and bring in quality players.
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Oct 24, 2023 22:45:43 GMT 1
Post by htfc63 on Oct 24, 2023 22:45:43 GMT 1
Maybe I was naive however I did not think Moore was that bad an appointment. Sadly he has had to follow a really good manager who got average players playing better. I watched him on the touch line tonight and there was little or no animation or instruction even when players came over. Cardiff showed us tonight how to kill off games when 2 nil up and to be frank it looked like they took their foot off the gas in the second half especially by bringing some of their better players off. The championship is a tough league where you need to get good player movement, the ability to stop crosses coming in, the ability to handle set pieces etc none of which we did tonight. I will be there on Saturday keeping my fingers crossed that we play better in a local derby because if we don’t Somerville, Gnonte etc will tear us apart at the back.
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Oct 24, 2023 22:53:54 GMT 1
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Oct 24, 2023 22:53:54 GMT 1
3 - 58 in favour of no
I wonder what the vote would be if the question was will he make it to 2024!
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Oct 24, 2023 22:54:12 GMT 1
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Post by Moooooy on Oct 24, 2023 22:54:12 GMT 1
It’s early days but there are a few alarm bells ringing. Chopping and changing formation every game, 3 left backs against Birmingham, Koroma at left back on Saturday, set piece defending is atrocious, 2 absolute tonkings against Cardiff and Birmingham. Add to all that we don’t seem to know what we’re doing in and out of possession and it doesn’t paint a great picture.
This appointment needs to work for the club because if it goes tits up the one bloke who could come in and save us was sacked by us last month.
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Post by k1man999 on Oct 24, 2023 22:54:26 GMT 1
Remember we had to get him whilst he was available.. absolute bollocks. But our man from Portugal says he's a great coach and performed miracles to get such a poor Wednesday squad promoted last season 🙄🤣🤣🤣 I'd have got massive promotion last year Bannan best midfielder in division, windas, Smith,Gregory off top of my head some quality for lg1.
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Post by omegasupreme on Oct 24, 2023 22:57:09 GMT 1
Darren Boore is thick as mince.. . He makes Fotheringham look like Sven. He can't even string a coherent sentence together for a post match interview, so no wonder the players look so confused if he's trying to give them instructions. Just over emphasises buzz words.. I can't see anything other than a second arsehole at 2.15 on Saturday. I’m not impressed so far but this is really distasteful and out of order.
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Post by sabailand on Oct 24, 2023 22:57:19 GMT 1
The Warnock situation should be irrelevant now. I remember last season saying that I wanted us to lose under MF for the greater good one particular poster called me out suggesting I wasn’t a proper fan wishing us to lose… Well how about this id take a Man City 10-1 style thrashing this Saturday because as some have said the rhetoric around his appointment it will need to be something monumentally bad (tonight obviously bad) to react so suddenly, the longer is here the more precarious our championship status! Also it’s not entirely DM we know the limitations of the squad and I really struggle to see who could now galvanise us AGAIN but we have some hope with Sheff Wed and QPR looking so poor. You'd take a 10-1 thrashing v Leeds, bollocks to that.
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Post by shawsie on Oct 24, 2023 22:58:46 GMT 1
Maybe I was naive however I did not think Moore was that bad an appointment. Sadly he has had to follow a really good manager who got average players playing better. I watched him on the touch line tonight and there was little or no animation or instruction even when players came over. Cardiff showed us tonight how to kill off games when 2 nil up and to be frank it looked like they took their foot off the gas in the second half especially by bringing some of their better players off. The championship is a tough league where you need to get good player movement, the ability to stop crosses coming in, the ability to handle set pieces etc none of which we did tonight. I will be there on Saturday keeping my fingers crossed that we play better in a local derby because if we don’t Somerville, Gnonte etc will tear us apart at the back. What worries me is his seeming inability to change things positively during a game. We got worse when he changed it at wed, home to ipswich and again sat and tonight when hudlin had all the impact of a traffic cone and edwards showed why he isnt playing regularly!
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Post by harris on Oct 24, 2023 22:59:25 GMT 1
It’s early days but there are a few alarm bells ringing. Chopping and changing formation every game, 3 left backs against Birmingham, Koroma at left back on Saturday, set piece defending is atrocious, 2 absolute tonkings against Cardiff and Birmingham. Add to all that we don’t seem to know what we’re doing in and out of possession and it doesn’t paint a great picture. This appointment needs to work for the club because if it goes tits up the one bloke who could come in and save us was sacked by us last month. He’s a 3-5-2 manager and I feel he’s trying to shoehorn players to suit this formation that simply cannot do it. The age old square pegs in round holes - players asked to do things they’re not comfortable doing. I mean ffs, half the reason we stayed up last season was because Warnock got Josh Koroma firing at LW. Now he’s being played LWB, ST, the bench 😀 basically everywhere bar his effective position.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 24, 2023 22:59:29 GMT 1
Get rid now.
I've absolutely no idea how he wants us to play.
The best 2 managers we've had in the last ten years had a clear style from game 1.
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Oct 24, 2023 22:59:40 GMT 1
The only thing worse than the performance tonight was listening to Moore’s post match interview in the car on the way home.
Talked absolute garbage. Sat was poor but we got lucky - tonight was poor and we got well beat. This goals change games chat and saying down to not defending set pieces is to blame - rubbish. We were awful all over the pitch and they could easily have scored 4/5 from open play too.
I’m generally pretty positive but I wasn’t happy with the appointment of Moore and I am raging tonight. One theory is that he has only had 6 matches so takes time. This can of course be true in general in football, however my concern is that the more we start to play to his style the worse we get. Not bad v Coventry, decent v Ipswich…before he had time to stamp his mark…and now as he is, we are getting worse.
Long hoofs to no-one, no intensity (Cardiff were a yard quicker moving the ball) and looked like the players didn’t know what Moore asked of them or don’t agree with what is being asked of them.
Dull uninspiring football. It was flat even after beating QPR. Wednesday fans I know said even when winning two or three nil, they often left the stadium flat and bored. Doesn’t bode well.
We all love Warnock, but when he left, I was excited for a statement appointment - exciting new era, and we made possibly the most uninspiring choice we could have.
People will also blame the players but the main accountability lies with managers/coaches - Warnock got a tune out of the same group, sadly I doubt Moore can.
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Post by royrace on Oct 24, 2023 23:02:17 GMT 1
These latest suits seem like a more expensive version of Bromby without the bullshit communication. To be fair at least Bromby found Rudoni and Helik. He could find players, but he was just all over the place with appointing gaffers. Cartwright doesn’t seem able to do either. I did fear there was a reason he was working in the USA. Was always the danger appointing key staff from a league far inferior to the championship. DoF is a key role, as things stand it looks like he doesn't know he's doing. I wonder if they still feel so smug about appointing DM from a position of strength. Staggered so many fell for that utter bullshit. I'd say 80 percent of people on here knew it was a huge risk to get rid of NW and especially to replace him with DM, but the DoF and chief exec didn't? Very worrying.
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Oct 24, 2023 23:05:27 GMT 1
The Warnock situation should be irrelevant now. I remember last season saying that I wanted us to lose under MF for the greater good one particular poster called me out suggesting I wasn’t a proper fan wishing us to lose… Well how about this id take a Man City 10-1 style thrashing this Saturday because as some have said the rhetoric around his appointment it will need to be something monumentally bad (tonight obviously bad) to react so suddenly, the longer is here the more precarious our championship status! Also it’s not entirely DM we know the limitations of the squad and I really struggle to see who could now galvanise us AGAIN but we have some hope with Sheff Wed and QPR looking so poor. You'd take a 10-1 thrashing v Leeds, bollocks to that. Obviously I’m being ott but my point is that I’ve already decided that DM is not the man but I’d decided that on Day 1… Leeds is probably a silly game to refer to as some on here would probably take relegation if we did the double over them such is the stupid obsession with our rivalry. My question is this would you take a hammering on Saturday so bad that KN pressed the button and got a better manager to lead us into the new year with possibly some money to spend, or would you take a lesser defeat which will mean he continues in his role, 90% on here seem to want him go already the problem is that 90% of the 90% have no clue who they would replace him with myself included… but there is without question better options out there… Eustace would be my likely choice with a point to prove!
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Oct 24, 2023 23:07:29 GMT 1
Post by sabailand on Oct 24, 2023 23:07:29 GMT 1
Got to play with back four on sat or else Leeds will beat us easily, funnily enough i think it will be a close game.
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Oct 24, 2023 23:09:28 GMT 1
Got to play with back four on sat or else Leeds will beat us easily, funnily enough i think it will be a close game on saturday. We will surely go looking for a 0-0 or smash and grab so we may frustrate them, but if they get an early goal then I’d be worried!
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Oct 24, 2023 23:10:08 GMT 1
I don't know anyone who thought this was a good appointment and i can only see us going one way!.
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Oct 24, 2023 23:11:34 GMT 1
Post by sabailand on Oct 24, 2023 23:11:34 GMT 1
You'd take a 10-1 thrashing v Leeds, bollocks to that. Obviously I’m being ott but my point is that I’ve already decided that DM is not the man but I’d decided that on Day 1… Leeds is probably a silly game to refer to as some on here would probably take relegation if we did the double over them such is the stupid obsession with our rivalry. My question is this would you take a hammering on Saturday so bad that KN pressed the button and got a better manager to lead us into the new year with possibly some money to spend, or would you take a lesser defeat which will mean he continues in his role, 90% on here seem to want him go already the problem is that 90% of the 90% have no clue who they would replace him with myself included… but there is without question better options out there… Eustace would be my likely choice with a point to prove! If we knew for a fact things would change for the better under a new boss then i'd take a heavy defeat, we've had heavy defeats aginst them before so it would be nowt new...but 10-1.
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Post by eflview on Oct 24, 2023 23:14:27 GMT 1
Ipswich fan here just thought I'd offer my thoughts as somebody who watched a lot of Moore's Wednesday side last year.
He found a pretty good tactical formula in the first two thirds of the season but he struggled to adapt to losing players in the run in and at times it felt like they were relying on the quality of the players in the squad to get them over the line rather than any game plans he had devised. Feared he might be a bit exposed without having that talent advantage at Huddersfield.
I thought Moore was a strange pick for where Huddersfield are at the moment too. His main strength has always been his man management and instilling belief into his players, as shown by the playoff comeback and how he almost kept West Brom up from an impossible position in his first management role. The problem is that Warnock is an even better motivator so what is Moore's greatest asset probably looks like a weakness to the players who will have seen what came before him. He was also excellent at taming Chansiri's behaviour which again is a valuable skill but another one I'm not sure is all that relevant at Huddersfield with an owner who so far seems pretty sensible.
I don't know if it's the correct fit, but there's still plenty of time left. And if he's still around on the last day of the season and needs something from the game at Portman Road he'll get it because annoyingly he seems to have McKenna's number!
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Oct 24, 2023 23:15:09 GMT 1
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Oct 24, 2023 23:15:09 GMT 1
Obviously I’m being ott but my point is that I’ve already decided that DM is not the man but I’d decided that on Day 1… Leeds is probably a silly game to refer to as some on here would probably take relegation if we did the double over them such is the stupid obsession with our rivalry. My question is this would you take a hammering on Saturday so bad that KN pressed the button and got a better manager to lead us into the new year with possibly some money to spend, or would you take a lesser defeat which will mean he continues in his role, 90% on here seem to want him go already the problem is that 90% of the 90% have no clue who they would replace him with myself included… but there is without question better options out there… Eustace would be my likely choice with a point to prove! If we knew for a fact things would change for the better under a new boss then i'd take a heavy defeat, we've had heavy defeats aginst them before so it would be nowt new...but 10-1. As I said I was being OTT, but only a ridiculous defeat would result in his immediate dismissal I feel and even then it may not be enough… but the noise already must be concerning.
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Post by townrwe on Oct 24, 2023 23:16:49 GMT 1
Darren Boore is thick as mince.. . He makes Fotheringham look like Sven. He can't even string a coherent sentence together for a post match interview, so no wonder the players look so confused if he's trying to give them instructions. Just over emphasises buzz words.. I can't see anything other than a second arsehole at 2.15 on Saturday. Was he "commending" the players tonight ? The fuckwit. If you think he's not even had a bad start in reality.... but his tenure is seriously under threat for me after 6 games. If I was the owner of the club I would genuinely let him go tonight.. its not suddenly going to get better, if we were playing with a plan that wasn't working, then I'd back him to come up with a new plan... but we look confused, devoid of idea and its getting worse every game. He obviously doesn't have the mental capacity to strategise, he can't think clearly or quickly enough to make changes during a game and far from uniting the club, the players and fanbase he appears to be totally destroying what warnock did so well build. He had the same communication problem as schofield... Fozza at least had a bad plan, but never found a good plan and he used the buzzword bingo that Moore is using. Im finding Moore has all the worst attributes of the other two and I'm not even liking him as he talks bullshit in incoherent sentences. I'd have more faith in Jim from the working men's communicating a plan after pissing himself after 30 pints.
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Oct 24, 2023 23:17:24 GMT 1
Ipswich fan here just thought I'd offer my thoughts as somebody who watched a lot of Moore's Wednesday side last year. He found a pretty good tactical formula in the first two thirds of the season but he struggled to adapt to losing players in the run in and at times it felt like they were relying on the quality of the players in the squad to get them over the line rather than any game plans he had devised. Feared he might be a bit exposed without having that talent advantage at Huddersfield. I thought Moore was a strange pick for where Huddersfield are at the moment too. His main strength has always been his man management and instilling belief into his players, as shown by the playoff comeback and how he almost kept West Brom up from an impossible position in his first management role. The problem is that Warnock is an even better motivator so what is Moore's greatest asset probably looks like a weakness to the players who will have seen what came before him. He was also excellent at taming Chansiri's behaviour which again is a valuable skill but another one I'm not sure is all that relevant at Huddersfield with an owner who so far seems pretty sensible. I don't know if it's the correct fit, but there's still plenty of time left. And if he's still around on the last day of the season and needs something from the game at Portman Road he'll get it because annoyingly he seems to have McKenna's number! Excellent post… but I am not sure our owner is sensible. Whilst successful he also seems thick but not Darren Moore thick!
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