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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 18, 2008 20:40:36 GMT 1
I agree with booing a team off. I booed at the end of the game today, I booed at Darlington; IMO, booing at the end of a game is a legitimate way to display that I don't think the performance was good enough. I take a completely different slant to booing someone in a game, however. Goodwin was personally victimised today, there were 3 or 4 other players as bad as him today; Dickinson, Butler, Craney; yet Goodwin was the one singled out by the crowd. What is it actually meant to achieve? Do they think Goodwin was deliberately having a bad game to spite them, and that they could scare him into playing better? I read over and over again that Town fans will never boo a player as long as they give 100%. Goodwin has given 100% in every game so far. Another voice of reason - have a positive pal. Booing at the end of a game - feel free, but not when we are pressing for a winner with 10 mins or so left!!!
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Post by shawsie on Oct 18, 2008 20:45:14 GMT 1
Its good to see proper fans coming to the fore now!!! Lets start a concerted plan of outing the boo boys and tell em to foxtrot oscar elsewhere!!! By all means boo at the end of a bad display to voice your opinion, but to character assassinate one individual is a disgrace - unfortunately as far back as the early 80s we have regularly had a boo boy target starting in my time with cowling and currently goodwin!! I would rather have 8000 fans like last season than have a ground full of halfwits who expect to pay £100 a ticket and be served up international class football throughout!!!
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Post by Larry David on Oct 18, 2008 20:47:11 GMT 1
completley agree on this, i was disgusted. had several set too's with 'fans' around me, who seem just to come down and moan, they are completley miserable pr1cks.
goodwin was by no means the worst player on the pitch today. at the point he was announced MOM he played a poor pass which didnt help, but he was looking to actually pass the fecking ball, and not one town player made himself availiable.
if you are looking for scapegoats today, dicko and butler were far worst IMO. butler didnt do anything of meaning today, apart from come way out of the back 4 line and miss several key headers, and dicko seemed more bothered about man handling their centre back than trying to win a header.
never boo individuals, its not big and its not clever, much like many of the so called £100 town 'fans' who come.
i noticed a massive difference between the fans who come to the cup games (who pay & are real fans?) than those on a saturday.
hang your heads in same you stupid feckwits who did that today.
still, there are positives (first 25 mins) and we will get better...KTF!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 18, 2008 20:51:16 GMT 1
agree , some absolute tossers sat around me aswel... they probably have never even been to some of Towns past great matches from the last 30 yrs.
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Post by w415hy on Oct 18, 2008 20:51:19 GMT 1
Its easy to say you can pass the ball 5 yards, but when under pressure, it wasnt that it was a misplaced pass in the slightest it was a lack of communication between Jim Goodwin and Michael Collins. Jim godwin was looking for Michael Collins to drop and open his body up where as Michael Collins was looking for the ball played in front of him. I think thats the example you are on about, and that is where there was hideous booing from our so called support. Its ok saying you can pass 5 yards, but your not playing in front of just under 14,000 with pressure to press on and score the winner. If you have ever played in a game where it is 1-1 with a few minutes to go and theres no movement from players in front of you, you will see how difficult it is. If he was to just lump the ball into the box and the keeper was to claim the ball, you would be booing all the same. Thats my rant over. Im away to drown my sorrows now.
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Post by pozza on Oct 18, 2008 20:51:21 GMT 1
Listen hear wankstain The definition of a football SUPPORTER - some-one who supports his team - end of. I'm not talking about watching a f**king band, I'm talking about supporting a football team and being a 12th man - you just dont f**king get it do you sunshine. Did you boo Jim Goodwin by chance or are you sticking up for your f**cking mentally challenged pals who did, cos I'm struggling to see how you can justify the booing of Jim Goodwin?? Wanksatin, I like it. I see were resorting to name calling now, how very mature What i'm saying is, if someone pays money to see a product (wether it be a band, a play, a comedian) then they have the right to complain about it. The only way fans have to complain about football is by boo'ing. FWIW no, I didn't boo Goodwin today, I didn't even hear he got the MOM until I got home, so you can take that remark back straight away. I'll never boo a player during a game, ever. I will however vent my frustraions after a game if I see fit. Which for the record, I didn't today. I was dissapointed with the way we performed, but I dont think it needed a boo, others did, which is thier choice, and up to them. As for "not getting it" may I direct you to the thread at the top of this pafe where you will see I am activley trying to sort something out to help Town have a "12th Man" down at the Galpharm. So, please dont go spouting off at me jsut becuase you have a difference of opinion. If you want to discuss the matter further on here, then i'll sit and debate the point until the cows come home, but if your calling to start calling people names, for me, the discussion ends here.
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Post by thewrongboy on Oct 18, 2008 20:53:27 GMT 1
Re: Spliffs and red wine.
Kids, just say no to drugs.
The Wrong Boy and the cast from Grange Hill (eighties stylee... when it was good).
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Post by marshterrier on Oct 18, 2008 20:55:42 GMT 1
Re: Spliffs and red wine. Kids, just say no to drugs. The Wrong Boy and the cast from Grange Hill (eighties stylee... when it was good). Ah Grange Hill, they've scrapped it now. Just say no.
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 18, 2008 21:00:05 GMT 1
Listen hear wankstain The definition of a football SUPPORTER - some-one who supports his team - end of. I'm not talking about watching a f**king band, I'm talking about supporting a football team and being a 12th man - you just dont f**king get it do you sunshine. Did you boo Jim Goodwin by chance or are you sticking up for your f**cking mentally challenged pals who did, cos I'm struggling to see how you can justify the booing of Jim Goodwin?? Wanksatin, I like it. I see were resorting to name calling now, how very mature What i'm saying is, if someone pays money to see a product (wether it be a band, a play, a comedian) then they have the right to complain about it. The only way fans have to complain about football is by boo'ing. FWIW no, I didn't boo Goodwin today, I didn't even hear he got the MOM until I got home, so you can take that remark back straight away. I'll never boo a player during a game, ever. I will however vent my frustraions after a game if I see fit. Which for the record, I didn't today. I was dissapointed with the way we performed, but I dont think it needed a boo, others did, which is thier choice, and up to them. As for "not getting it" may I direct you to the thread at the top of this pafe where you will see I am activley trying to sort something out to help Town have a "12th Man" down at the Galpharm. So, please dont go spouting off at me jsut becuase you have a difference of opinion. If you want to discuss the matter further on here, then i'll sit and debate the point until the cows come home, but if your calling to start calling people names, for me, the discussion ends here. Wanksatin??? You describing your bed sheets now??? You go to see a band to be entertained. YOu go to watch YOUR team to support them. Do you boo the lead guitarist when he hits a duuf note/chord?? Do you boo the drummer when he misses a beat?? Do you boo the lead singer if he misses a word out?? Or, as you seem to say you boo them at the end of the gig?? Please explain it to me cos I just aint getting you.
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 18, 2008 21:09:12 GMT 1
Get over yourselves.
Today was rubbish.Goodwin covered his face cos he knew the sponsors got it wrong(good on him for that)
I am sick of being told to support the boys at all cost...
I could give the family history of 3 generations etc but what is the point?
Give us a team that can deliver,never mind the talk and platitudes,the I am a better supporter than you crap. We all go there for one reason ,don't knock people for their point of view.
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 18, 2008 21:16:03 GMT 1
Get over yourselves. Today was rubbish.Goodwin covered his face cos he knew the sponsors got it wrong(good on him for that) I am sick of being told to support the boys at all cost... I could give the family history of 3 generations etc but what is the point? Give us a team that can deliver,never mind the talk and platitudes,the I am a better supporter than you crap. We all go there for one reason ,don't knock people for their point of view. Its not a case of saying ''I'm a better fan than you' - its about being a rational thinking fan who supports the team through thick and thin. In my eyes there is no justification for booing JIm Goodwin today whilst the game was still going on. And what has 3 generations of family history got to do with owt??? If you want to boo go and watch Gladiators/wrestling or a f**king pantomine !!! To recap, in our centennary season, a HTAFC player resorts to hiding his face in embarrasment after being awarded the man of the match!!! Yeah, well well done lads, you certainly made a difference today.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 18, 2008 21:16:50 GMT 1
Townie speaks sense
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Post by pozza on Oct 18, 2008 21:21:33 GMT 1
Wanksatin??? You describing your bed sheets now??? You go to see a band to be entertained. YOu go to watch YOUR team to support them. Do you boo the lead guitarist when he hits a duuf note/chord?? Do you boo the drummer when he misses a beat?? Do you boo the lead singer if he misses a word out?? Or, as you seem to say you boo them at the end of the gig?? Please explain it to me cos I just aint getting you. Seen as you seem to have missed what I wrote, here it is again: I'll never boo a player during a game, ever. I will however vent my frustraions after a game if I see fit. Which for the record, I didn't today.So, the answer to the questions you have just asked. No I wouldn't boo them during the set. However, at the end if they hadn't lived up to my expectations then I probably would. I can understand why people boo is all i'm getting at, i'm not saying it's right, its just how certain people want to vent thier frustrations after a dissapointing display. You may have a different method, thats fine, people are different. As for the wanksatain comment, i'll think you'll find you were the first one to use the phrase which you ever so kindly directed towards me.
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 18, 2008 21:28:24 GMT 1
When did I say I booed anyone?
3 generations refers to "thick and thin supporting" sorry you couldn't understand the reference Basil.
Like I said previously,get over yourself and stop preaching,it is this sort of arrogance that causes the "better than you at supporting" stuff.Each to their own.The endxxxxxx
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 18, 2008 21:28:58 GMT 1
Its wankstain, not wanksatain or wanksatin!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Booing is counter productive but I accept it happens, but to do so whilst the games going on is just plain ridiculous and today I have finally boiled over.
Agree to disagree and all that but we will not make our home ground a fortress with behaviour and attitudes as shown today.
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Post by pozza on Oct 18, 2008 21:31:01 GMT 1
Booing is counter productive but I accept it happens, but to do so whilst the games going on is just plain ridiculous and today I have finally boiled over. I agree with you on that one, as i've said in this thread twice As for the spelling, that was just a typo as i'm typing quick becuase you got me wound up ;D
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 18, 2008 21:33:51 GMT 1
When did I say I booed anyone? 3 generations refers to "thick and thin supporting" sorry you couldn't understand the reference Basil. Like I said previously,get over yourself and stop preaching,it is this sort of arrogance that causes the "better than you at supporting" stuff.Each to their own.The endxxxxxx ''I could give the family history of 3 generations etc but what is the point?''
Where does it say above about 3 generations supporting through thick & thin?? Sorry for not being a mind reader pal, and I wonder if your 3 generations of family would have booed Jim Goodwin's man of the match award today. And I dont need to get over myself as you put it - I happen to want to SUPPORT my football club/team/players and think those that dont should just f**k off somewhere else
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 18, 2008 21:34:36 GMT 1
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 18, 2008 21:42:00 GMT 1
3 generations? the maths alone shows support has been through thick and thin given Towns history. None of my family (6 of us) booed Jim or anyone else.
I support Town.
One last thing,don't call me pal because I am obviously not .
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Post by chris164 on Oct 18, 2008 21:48:03 GMT 1
The people who 'pay good money to see that s***e' need to get overthemselves. What is it £4.50 a game? Like what has been said anyone who has this attitude should simply spend their money elsewhere if they don't like Town to be premiership standard.
(Aimed at no one on this thread or board in particular, just those who have that mentality.)
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Post by Dalesterrier on Oct 18, 2008 21:55:29 GMT 1
I thought it was dreadful that Goodwin was booed, but who on earth decides the man of the match? Worthy got the award against Leicester when he hardly put a pass right and the same with Goodwin today.
I fear that what distinguished him from others was his misfortune of getting the MoM award. He didn't have a good game but I'm still not sure if the idiots were booing Goodwin or the decision to make him MoM. Even he seemed acutely embarrassed before the boos started.
He is a good pro and I felt very sorry for him towards the end. He, and others, kept getting the ball and there was no movement whatsoever ahead of them.
I'm depressed as well by Stan's comments. Are we really expecting too much? Beating Bristol Rovers at home would hardly have been a cause for champagne!
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 18, 2008 21:59:39 GMT 1
The people who 'pay good money to see that s***e' need to get overthemselves. What is it £4.50 a game? Like what has been said anyone who has this attitude should simply spend their money elsewhere if they don't like Town to be premiership standard. (Aimed at no one on this thread or board in particular, just those who have that mentality.) That is a very condescending attitude. Why do you think you can tell anyone how to spend their money? Maybe,some folk like to spend it on watching crap...and some don't. As for premiership standard...YES PLEASE..but do please let me know when I can expect that.
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 18, 2008 22:02:23 GMT 1
I thought it was dreadful that Goodwin was booed, but who on earth decides the man of the match? Worthy got the award against Leicester when he hardly put a pass right and the same with Goodwin today. I fear that what distinguished him from others was his misfortune of getting the MoM award. He didn't have a good game but I'm still not sure if the idiots were booing Goodwin or the decision to make him MoM. Even he seemed acutely embarrassed before the boos started. He is a good pro and I felt very sorry for him towards the end. He, and others, kept getting the ball and there was no movement whatsoever ahead of them. I'm depressed as well by Stan's comments. Are we really expecting too much? Beating Bristol Rovers at home would hardly have been a cause for champagne! At last.a voice of reason and very well put.Couldnt agree more.
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Post by chris164 on Oct 18, 2008 22:05:13 GMT 1
Not really condescending, just a bit of advice. Though I can be patronising if you want? Think about, just for a minute, what the word SUPPORTER means??? Get the point? Or are you a product of today's society needing instant gratification?
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 18, 2008 22:11:40 GMT 1
Not really condescending, just a bit of advice. Though I can be patronising if you want? Think about, just for a minute, what the word SUPPORTER means??? Get the point? Or are you a product of today's society needing instant gratification? What a tosspot, goodnight.
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Post by chris164 on Oct 18, 2008 22:20:34 GMT 1
Some people just don't get it. Name callin eh? Usually the last resort of someone who has lost an argument. Football is losing the spirit it once had that got me hooked, the spirit where everyone was in it together cheering on a funnily enough supporting the team. No matter how bad we were ther cheers remained louder than the boos - which were few and reserved to the end. Now it's a case of putting a foot wrong you can get slaughtered. I never thought we'd get people booing individuals in the football league but now thanks to Skys mass marketing of the Premiership people expect to see what they do on the tele and if they don't they will hurl abuse. It won't be long til I give up home games and just go to away ones where the majority of people there have came to SUPPORT their team not boo at any given time.
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Post by desertwellydweller on Oct 18, 2008 22:25:33 GMT 1
I didn't Boo.....But I did laugh.....and very loudly and for quite a long time as well.
Goodwin pulled his shirt over his head because of the total embarrassment of being named man of the match because he knew (as did most of the crowd) that he had been utter gash throughout the game.
BTW the game was utter bollocks! kick and rush, kick and rush, kick and rush. Dickinson is, was, and always will be a bloody carthorse.....
I'm slowly but surely losing faith in Stan the man.....what's the point in trying to perfect a gameplan if the key person in that gameplan isn't bloody good enough, and won't be here in another 30 days time anyway?
Much better to try and build a team and style of play with what we've got and will have throughout the campaign..........no?
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 18, 2008 22:32:19 GMT 1
Some people just don't get it. Name callin eh? Usually the last resort of someone who has lost an argument. Football is losing the spirit it once had that got me hooked, the spirit where everyone was in it together cheering on a funnily enough supporting the team. No matter how bad we were ther cheers remained louder than the boos - which were few and reserved to the end. Now it's a case of putting a foot wrong you can get slaughtered. I never thought we'd get people booing individuals in the football league but now thanks to Skys mass marketing of the Premiership people expect to see what they do on the tele and if they don't they will hurl abuse. It won't be long til I give up home games and just go to away ones where the majority of people there have came to SUPPORT their team not boo at any given time. You talk utter rubbish,miss the point and I aint lost any argument. ONCE AGAIN...I REPEAT...CAN YOU HEAR ME? I DID NOT BOO..merely had an opinion which you are incapable of accepting...Who do you think you are? And yes I got out of bed to say my point;)
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Post by vivian on Oct 18, 2008 22:34:14 GMT 1
Its good to see proper fans coming to the fore now!!! Lets start a concerted plan of outing the boo boys and tell em to foxtrot oscar elsewhere!!! By all means boo at the end of a bad display to voice your opinion, but to character assassinate one individual is a disgrace - unfortunately as far back as the early 80s we have regularly had a boo boy target starting in my time with cowling and currently goodwin!! I would rather have 8000 fans like last season than have a ground full of halfwits who expect to pay £100 a ticket and be served up international class football throughout!!! It seems you are having the same problem as us last season and in a few games this season with the boo-ing.A lot of our supporters were saying thay would rather have 8,000 hardcore fans in the ground rather than the moaning barstewards who got the the cheap tickets.
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Post by chris164 on Oct 18, 2008 22:42:09 GMT 1
Some people just don't get it. Name callin eh? Usually the last resort of someone who has lost an argument. Football is losing the spirit it once had that got me hooked, the spirit where everyone was in it together cheering on a funnily enough supporting the team. No matter how bad we were ther cheers remained louder than the boos - which were few and reserved to the end. Now it's a case of putting a foot wrong you can get slaughtered. I never thought we'd get people booing individuals in the football league but now thanks to Skys mass marketing of the Premiership people expect to see what they do on the tele and if they don't they will hurl abuse. It won't be long til I give up home games and just go to away ones where the majority of people there have came to SUPPORT their team not boo at any given time. You talk utter rubbish,miss the point and I aint lost any argument. ONCE AGAIN...I REPEAT...CAN YOU HEAR ME? I DID NOT BOO..merely had an opinion which you are incapable of accepting...Who do you think you are? And yes I got out of bed to say my point;) When I mentioned 'booers' should spend their money elsewhere you disagreed. Now call me stupid but doesn't that mean you agree with them, even just a little bit? And where oh where have I said that YOU have booed? I was attacking you opinion which implied people have a right to show their frustration. - In this case aimed at individuals. As for not being able to accept you opinion, why should I? You're the one who thinks it's correct not to accept mine.
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