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Post by nseventee on Oct 18, 2008 23:22:35 GMT 1
You are deluded. You want to remember a century of pride in a positive manner then you aren't going to get it with the current management team who have collectively been associated with abject failure for the last 5 or 6 seasons. People who I respect have said, "give them time", but they've had time - they've had the job for nearly 6 months now...its NOT going to get any better. Sure we'll have the odd decent game, but roughly 2 points per game 11 games into the season, with the added evidence of a poor pre-season showing, and back that up with a lack of respect for the club, the media and the fans from the manager, and there's nothing to have pride in. We're going nowhere fast with Stan Ternant, and his lack of respect comment about expecting champagne on beer money, having been given the largest budget in many years at Town, frankly takes the biscuit. I'm not a violent man, but he deserves a punch in the nose. Stan HAS to leave the club before January if we have allusions of promotion. If that doesn't happen, then get used to negative sounds at the game, because its going to continue. PS - I didn't boo. I'm very positive on match days, and despite the evidence usually turn up at 3pm expecting us to win by 3 or 4 goals, even though it never happens.
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Post by kosi on Oct 19, 2008 1:10:34 GMT 1
The football we played at oldham and swindon was excellent but today its as if we'd lost 5 on the bounce. Although the crowd as usual were quiet, i thought they were fair enough until the last ten when it spilled over. Get yourselves to hartlepool and posh. Youll see a different side. A bit of patience is required and the good news is that mr hoyle is gonna give stan that. Sick of changing manager ever flaming time things dont go our way
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Post by Richard1986 on Oct 19, 2008 3:15:25 GMT 1
always seems to be people sitting around posters on here that are booing doesn't it ? ...diddums
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 19, 2008 7:21:56 GMT 1
3 generations? the maths alone shows support has been through thick and thin given Towns history. None of my family (6 of us) booed Jim or anyone else. I support Town. One last thing,don't call me pal because I am obviously not . The term 'pal' was used in a patronising way, pal!!!!!
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Post by jackosgal on Oct 19, 2008 10:43:48 GMT 1
I didn't boo when Goodwin was announced as MOTM, although many round me did. I groaned, I admit to that, while wondering if Stevie Wonder was responsible for the choosing him as Jim Goodwin, along with Liam Dickenson, were the worst players out there by a mile yesterday.
Maybe the vitriol was for the MOTM selectors and not Jim?
I didn't boo at the end either, for what it's worth.
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 19, 2008 12:54:31 GMT 1
well for whats it worth.. i thought some of the booing was directed at the sponsors rather than Goodwin. he didnt need telling he had a bad game and was embarassed by the announcement.. we were just laughing at what planet those people were on.. I honestly thought folk around were booing the sponsors and not slagging off Goodwin.. however the over reaction on here is incredible at timesWhat, like booing one badly executed pass???
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Post by Tez on Oct 19, 2008 13:14:46 GMT 1
We NEVER over-react on datm....do we?!
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 19, 2008 13:20:18 GMT 1
We NEVER over-react on datm....do we?! Perhaps, sometimes ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Tez on Oct 19, 2008 13:23:02 GMT 1
I thought as much. Long may it continue. UTT!!!
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Post by pling on Oct 19, 2008 15:33:01 GMT 1
Ashamed at grown men acting like little spoilt children and at the result.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2008 16:52:07 GMT 1
Its good to see proper fans coming to the fore now!!! Lets start a concerted plan of outing the boo boys and tell em to foxtrot oscar elsewhere!!! By all means boo at the end of a bad display to voice your opinion, but to character assassinate one individual is a disgrace - unfortunately as far back as the early 80s we have regularly had a boo boy target starting in my time with cowling and currently goodwin!! I would rather have 8000 fans like last season than have a ground full of halfwits who expect to pay £100 a ticket and be served up international class football throughout!!! It seems you are having the same problem as us last season and in a few games this season with the boo-ing.A lot of our supporters were saying thay would rather have 8,000 hardcore fans in the ground rather than the moaning barstewards who got the the cheap tickets. If you don't use the Mark Lawn mathematical equation thats 4,750 harcore supporters
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Post by spiketheterrier on Oct 19, 2008 18:34:29 GMT 1
I agree with booing a team off. I booed at the end of the game today, I booed at Darlington; IMO, booing at the end of a game is a legitimate way to display that I don't think the performance was good enough. I take a completely different slant to booing someone in a game, however. Goodwin was personally victimised today, there were 3 or 4 other players as bad as him today; Dickinson, Butler, Craney; yet Goodwin was the one singled out by the crowd. What is it actually meant to achieve? Do they think Goodwin was deliberately having a bad game to spite them, and that they could scare him into playing better? I read over and over again that Town fans will never boo a player as long as they give 100%. Goodwin has given 100% in every game so far. Another voice of reason - have a positive pal. Booing at the end of a game - feel free, but not when we are pressing for a winner with 10 mins or so left!!! And so say all of us!!!!!! ;D
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Post by rantinray on Oct 19, 2008 18:43:00 GMT 1
I am not ashamed to be a Town fan. The people who booed the MOM result are a minority with small peckers. What amazes me and also frightens me is the fact that he was selected as MOM. As for him playing right back I have reservations. At Oldham he had a v/poor game as he has had down at the Galpharm playing in this r/back position from time to time. What has Holdsworth done wrong?
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Oct 19, 2008 19:07:25 GMT 1
Well,,,me?and my opinion? I just give up on here.I dont fit in to the clique.. Points are ignored,reasons passed over,can't have a fair debate. Pal as a term...terribly patronising particularly as I am female but hey...thats how it is..(on here) Fortunatly,in real life,all the guys I know are not nuckle dragging neanderthals. Well done Lord basil and co,fine examples of Town fans...
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Post by jimmynich on Oct 19, 2008 19:28:30 GMT 1
Goodwin wasnt even that bad poor lad...disgraceful it was.Skarz had a nightmare and (quite rightly) didn't get booed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2008 20:08:03 GMT 1
Well,,,me?and my opinion? I just give up on here.I dont fit in to the clique.. Points are ignored,reasons passed over,can't have a fair debate. Pal as a term...terribly patronising particularly as I am female but hey...thats how it is..(on here) Fortunatly,in real life,all the guys I know are not nuckle dragging neanderthals. Well done Lord basil and co,fine examples of Town fans... Relax... There is no clique. Sometimes people agree and sometimes they don't with venom
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Post by desertwellydweller on Oct 19, 2008 20:59:21 GMT 1
"Sometimes people agree and sometimes they don't with venom " Rubbish! Don't talk boll*cks! Pal!
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Post by pozza on Oct 19, 2008 21:13:23 GMT 1
For all them complaining about booing.... SING UP that will drown them out Groud is so quiet sometimes it makes the booing sound louder than what it actually is.
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Post by NewMill Terrier on Oct 19, 2008 21:21:30 GMT 1
Come on lets be fair who else deserved the MOTM I thought that up untill around 70 mins , when the crowd started to get restless and the players started to panic, that good was one of our best players he made some good tackle and always looked to pass to a town player instead off just hoofing it up field. I saw goodwin play numerous good balls from the right back position into the center of midfield, plus right back is'nt his favoured position ! The atmosphere all day yesterday was subdued and that affects the player the only atmosphere all game was for 10 minutes in the second half when the antich singing section were throwing an inflatable around !!! Sums it all up for me !!! UTT
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Post by The Real True Blue on Oct 19, 2008 21:34:03 GMT 1
i Don't boo. Never have, never will (Whinging at my Dad is just as good)
Yes, you are entitled to vent your displeasure. We live in a free world. Doing it at the players just seems a little counter-productive to me.
And before anyone says anything, i've been a true blue Terrier for 25 of my 27 years.
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Post by The Real True Blue on Oct 19, 2008 21:36:41 GMT 1
And i'll always be Town And Proud!
Boo that ya Bxxxrds!
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Post by w415hy on Oct 20, 2008 3:42:59 GMT 1
I would rather have 8000 fans like last season than have a ground full of halfwits who expect to pay £100 a ticket and be served up international class football throughout!!! [/quote]
I couldnt agree more, not only will it be 8000 proper town fans, who give the players, management and club everything they have got, but it would get rid of those bastewards that booed goodwin out of our ground. Personally i was watching Jim Goodwin as i play as a right back and i wanted to know what was keeping Andy Holdsworth out of the team and to be honest i dont think he had a bad game at all. What people watching the match (Im reluctant to say supporters at present) seen was J.Goodwin misplacing passes in the last 5-10 minutes. But lets look at the positives from his performance. How many times did he make a last ditch tackle or header to save Bristol creating a goalscoring opportunity i can count 2 examples that sit in my head clearly now, His backpost header to clear away for a throw in in the first half and also where he slid into tackle their forward when he injured himself with Glennon. I can also recalling J.Goodwin playing a part in the attack which led to us scoring.
i would not have given J.Goodwin the MOM however i would have him as our 5 better peformers yday 1 being M.Glennon. I also thought Dickinson did rather well as per usual he chased down every lost cause. He won the majority of his headers, and i think he linked up the ball rather well.
What im trying to say is why cant people open their eyes and look at the bigger picture and look at players performances throughout the 90 minutes rather than a certain period in the game.
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 20, 2008 7:04:35 GMT 1
Well,,,me?and my opinion? I just give up on here.I dont fit in to the clique.. Points are ignored,reasons passed over,can't have a fair debate. Pal as a term...terribly patronising particularly as I am female but hey...thats how it is..(on here) Fortunatly,in real life,all the guys I know are not nuckle dragging neanderthals. Well done Lord basil and co,fine examples of Town fans... 'Knuckle dragging neanderthals'' ? Arsehole!!!!! Why try go for the sympathy vote by declaring yourself female?? Gender does not matter pal, or would you prefer luv? I stated that I was ashamed of being a town fan on saturday, not that everyone else should be - it was my opinion and people repsonded how they wanted to. If your opinion was ignored/passed over then perhaps they didn't agree with you. Get over yourself
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2008 9:25:06 GMT 1
I would rather have 8000 fans like last season than have a ground full of halfwits who expect to pay £100 a ticket and be served up international class football throughout!!! I couldnt agree more, not only will it be 8000 proper town fans, who give the players, management and club everything they have got, but it would get rid of those bastewards that booed goodwin out of our ground. Personally i was watching Jim Goodwin as i play as a right back and i wanted to know what was keeping Andy Holdsworth out of the team and to be honest i dont think he had a bad game at all. What people watching the match (Im reluctant to say supporters at present) seen was J.Goodwin misplacing passes in the last 5-10 minutes. But lets look at the positives from his performance. How many times did he make a last ditch tackle or header to save Bristol creating a goalscoring opportunity i can count 2 examples that sit in my head clearly now, His backpost header to clear away for a throw in in the first half and also where he slid into tackle their forward when he injured himself with Glennon. I can also recalling J.Goodwin playing a part in the attack which led to us scoring. i would not have given J.Goodwin the MOM however i would have him as our 5 better peformers yday 1 being M.Glennon. I also thought Dickinson did rather well as per usual he chased down every lost cause. He won the majority of his headers, and i think he linked up the ball rather well. What im trying to say is why cant people open their eyes and look at the bigger picture and look at players performances throughout the 90 minutes rather than a certain period in the game.[/quote] I thought he was poor. A number of times he aimlessley launched the ball forward instead of passing... Thing is he wasn't playing the ball down the line and wasn't playing the crossfield diagonal ball - he was just planting it straight into the arms of the other keeper... He also got caught square and flatfooted several times which let their left winger in behind him. That's not to mention his 2nd half passing. Hopefully he'll play better at Posh.
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Post by mk22 on Oct 20, 2008 10:02:18 GMT 1
AGREE 100% LORDBASIL
WAS IN EXACTLY THE SAME MOOD TWO DAYS AGO HENCE THE CAPITALS!!
Everyone is in agreement so where are these non-supporters.
The behaviour on Saturday did more harm than good.
If the knobheads hadn't booed who knows Goodwin may not have been under as much pressure and may have got one of those crosses right to create a winner.
Do these idiots want the same as the true supporters and the players (promotion) Me thinks not.
PLEASE DON'T COME BACK YOU PRICKS..
PS WELL DONE LORD BASIL (TRUE TOWN FAN)
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 20, 2008 10:52:25 GMT 1
Spot on LB. Goodwins not exactly my favourite player to say the least but the reaction to his MOTM award was awfull. I do think the booing was more directed at the award rather than Goodwin himself. Where we sit everyone just laughed.
What was worse was the booing of Williams for having the nerve to actually enter the field of play! We have some real dickwads in our crowd.
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Post by Terrier9 on Oct 20, 2008 10:54:46 GMT 1
I do feel sorry for Goodwin.
I agree i wish we could get a knew manager in now, i dont like the football that stan plays, its almost retro
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2008 11:12:43 GMT 1
I do feel sorry for Goodwin. I agree i wish we could get a knew manager in now, i dont like the football that stan plays, its almost retro Get with the times retro is cool
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Post by LiversedgeFC on Oct 20, 2008 11:15:37 GMT 1
Now I cannot be arsed to read all the other posts on here at the moment cos I am f***ing seething. To all those fans who call themselves supporters!!!! F&&&ck off and SUPPORT someone else. Why boo Goodwin when MOM was announced? You're a f**cking disgrace to HTAFC!!!!! I feel so sorry for Mr Goodwin - having to hide his face, poor poor lad, he didn't f&&cking award it to himself did he?? I the 28 years I've been watching & SUPPORTING Town I've never, ever witnessed such behaviour. The whole team had a bad second half, why single out one player who, as a professional, is doing what his boss asked of him?? I hope he goes on a scores the winner in the playoff final and stucks it right back up you. You all need to take a long hard look at yourselves, lift up that bottom f**cking lip thats trapsing on the floor and stop acting like spolit brats. The front of my season ticket says 'A Century of Pride' - well I for one don not want to remember our centennary season tarnished by such behaviour - lacking respect and adopting such attitudes. I'm not really suprised that we've missed out on signing some players linked with us - why come to a club where some fans behave like they do?? I really hope that the majority of fans fel the same way I do and go some way to SUPPORTING him wholeheartedly in the next game. Mr Goodwin, if you're reading this please accept my apologies for the booing. Right, I'm off for 30 mins to get my tea but will be back to answer questions, respond to adverse replies etc later. Stop moaning!
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Post by Lard Buttie on Oct 20, 2008 11:30:40 GMT 1
Now I cannot be arsed to read all the other posts on here at the moment cos I am f***ing seething. To all those fans who call themselves supporters!!!! F&&&ck off and SUPPORT someone else. Why boo Goodwin when MOM was announced? You're a f**cking disgrace to HTAFC!!!!! I feel so sorry for Mr Goodwin - having to hide his face, poor poor lad, he didn't f&&cking award it to himself did he?? I the 28 years I've been watching & SUPPORTING Town I've never, ever witnessed such behaviour. The whole team had a bad second half, why single out one player who, as a professional, is doing what his boss asked of him?? I hope he goes on a scores the winner in the playoff final and stucks it right back up you. You all need to take a long hard look at yourselves, lift up that bottom f**cking lip thats trapsing on the floor and stop acting like spolit brats. The front of my season ticket says 'A Century of Pride' - well I for one don not want to remember our centennary season tarnished by such behaviour - lacking respect and adopting such attitudes. I'm not really suprised that we've missed out on signing some players linked with us - why come to a club where some fans behave like they do?? I really hope that the majority of fans fel the same way I do and go some way to SUPPORTING him wholeheartedly in the next game. Mr Goodwin, if you're reading this please accept my apologies for the booing. Right, I'm off for 30 mins to get my tea but will be back to answer questions, respond to adverse replies etc later. Stop moaning! No!!!!
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