Gerry Murphy/Andy Booth

[bro600]

Sometimes at a club you get an icon who does wonders for the club and deserves a lot of respect and consideration about their roles.
Andy Booth and Gerry Murphy spring to mind.
Boothy..A great servent to the club and if fit still could have offered a lot this season. We offered him a contract based on what he has achieved knowing full well that his fitness would not see him fulfill a consistent role as a player.

Gerry Murphy did wonders with the academy and is respected by a lot of the staff at The Galpharm.
He does deserve a lot of credit and possibly naming something after him at the club would be fitting.
But he's now undermined 3 managers at the club in one way or another.
His latest alleged ramblings at his last outing are a prime example of what sort of things that could spread poison through a club.
If true they are very unprofessional and a sad way to go about your job within a football club.

Maybe it's time to say thank you to these two great servents of the club in order to get on with our future.

[andygolcar]

"Undermined 3 managers" ? - How ??
"Alleged Ramblings" - Are they true or not ?

[Scissett Terrier!]

Murphy needs to wake up his acadamy players are not as good as he thinks they are, only booth and stead have become anything of note, and more booth than stead who is fast becoming a journey man at a very young age.

im p**sed off with murphy and his mouth, hes done well to set the acadmy up as good as it is, it needs someone to move it to the next level now. and he had a good run end of last season, if he wanted the job he should of said he didnt.

i agree things like this can cause posion thought a club and i hope its dealt with by the board to be honest.

for now i will keep to my word and beleive stan can change it round but hes runnign out of time.

if he does go murphy should have no say about who comes in and should have nothing to do with first team matters

[shelbourne]

Nov 1, 2008 21:45:10 GMT 1 bro600 said:

Sometimes at a club you get an icon who does wonders for the club and deserves a lot of respect and consideration about their roles.
Andy Booth and Gerry Murphy spring to mind.
Boothy..A great servent to the club and if fit still could have offered a lot this season. We offered him a contract based on what he has achieved knowing full well that his fitness would not see him fulfill a consistent role as a player.

Gerry Murphy did wonders with the academy and is respected by a lot of the staff at The Galpharm.
He does deserve a lot of credit and possibly naming something after him at the club would be fitting.
But he's now undermined 3 managers at the club in one way or another.
His latest alleged ramblings at his last outing are a prime example of what sort of things that could spread poison through a club.
If true they are very unprofessional and a sad way to go about your job within a football club.

Maybe it's time to say thank you to these two great servents of the club in order to get on with our future.

A witch hunt on Murphy? don`t like the tone of your post but accept its your opinion glad its not mine

[terracesider]

Not being as well "in" at the club as many on this board claim to be - can you please tell me about these alleged ramblings - I notice the use of the word "alleged" which doesn't make for much confidence in your source???

I really don't see how he has "undermined" 3 managers - they were/are all big lads in a hard World & should be capable of standing their own corner??

[bro600]

Jacko didn't get on with Gerry.
Ritchie was shit scared of Gerry,,
A prime example was that when Murphy travelled on the team coach there was no card schools allowed when he wasn't the players played.
There was also a time when 2 players got permission off Ritchie to go too Cheltenham races and booked an hotel and 2 days off. Gerry found out and Ritchie called both players back.

"Alleged Ramblings" - Are they true or not ?
A respected poster say's it's true and a few others have said similar.. But i was careful to put alleged.

[shelbourne]

And this means he undermined past three managers? like I said a witch hunt in progress?

[Nickhudds.UTT]

I was speaking to gerry last wednesday and he was very very upset at certain thing re how stan acts , gerry is huddersfield 200% and he seemed very passionate about how he feels we are not doing well under stan and how stan is not willing to give young players a chance.... someone had a right go at me today over gerry saying he was just a trouble maker !! absolute rubbish, why should he have to put up with being treat like dirt by ternent, ternent wont give a damn re our club , hes on a good salary and just wants a job here !!

[wildbillthetownfan]

How can two proffessional footballer's book day's off in the middle of the season.

[Captainslapper]

Sounds to me like Murphy was trying to HELP Ritchie rather than undermine him. Maybe he could see that the way ritchie was soft with them wasn't helping at all. Going by the results he got after ritchie had gone ,he was right.

[bro600]

" a witch hunt?"
Hardly that but if nickhudd903 say's Gerry told him something on Wednesday and in the past i've heard certain players come out with others snippets it does make me wonder.
Especially now Stan seems to have run into the same sort of problem.

[Deleted]

Nov 1, 2008 22:01:43 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Sounds to me like Murphy was trying to HELP Ritchie rather than undermine him. Maybe he could see that the way ritchie was soft with them wasn't helping at all. Going by the results he got after ritchie had gone ,he was right.

Damn right. Murphy knew Ritchie was soft as sh1t with the players hence when Murphy he took over 'they'll be training all the days god sends'

[franklincomesalive]

Struggling to see how Gerry Murphy and Boothy are a problem at our club, both are reasons to be proud of Town. Getting rid of them would further remove the heart from our club.

[wildbillthetownfan]

Was Ritchie really in charge, or was it Dungworth pulling the strings.

[andygolcar]

"Jacko didn't get on with Gerry." - well - so what ?
"Ritchie was shit scared of Gerry" - card schools allowed or not ? - Big deal !

Bro - in my opinion, this is just a stirring-up post with nothing substantial in it. Murphy has an opinon - I'm sure Ternant is man enough to understand Murphy is allowed an opinion.
Move on.

[andygolcar]

PS - And what's your point about Boothy ?

[bro600]

Nov 1, 2008 22:07:05 GMT 1 @maynardblue said:

Nov 1, 2008 22:01:43 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Sounds to me like Murphy was trying to HELP Ritchie rather than undermine him. Maybe he could see that the way ritchie was soft with them wasn't helping at all. Going by the results he got after ritchie had gone ,he was right.

Damn right. Murphy knew Ritchie was soft as sh1t with the players hence when Murphy he took over 'they'll be training all the days god sends'

Don't really disagree but Ritchies respect from the players would have gone out the window at the time.
At this moment in time is Stans respect also waining from Murphys graduates?
Whatever! i don't find it Professional behaviour.

[Nickhudds.UTT]

There is obviously serious disharmony and a nasty atmosphere behind the scenes, whoever is to blame, and it sounds like stan is the main one..... it wont help player moral and general positivity to take us forward. Why does it have to be like that ..... sounds a bit pathetic and childish , would it be allowed to continue in other business

[bro600]

Nov 1, 2008 22:11:37 GMT 1 andygolcar said:

PS - And what's your point about Boothy ?

I just thought we would have been better buying another full-time frontman and not letting sentiment get in the way by offering Andy another contract.
The position was emancipated by Beckett not moving on as well though.

[pringle99]

I tell you one thing, Gerry did not cheer town's winner.

[andygolcar]

Boothy has been on his last legs for the last 5 seasons!! - it's unlucky that his injury happened so early in th season (and he has 2 goals in 3 games I believe) - hardly sentimental - I don't think many fans before the seaon started didn't want him for another year.
Beckett was under contract, so we'd have had to pay it up anyway.

[terracesider]

As far as Stan & Gerry are concerned I would have thought (as would be the case in a "normal" Company) that the boss (Davy/Hoyle) would have sorted it. I'm sure these guys aren't fairies when it comes to "kicking ass" so why is the "alleged" situation allowed to continue??

[Nickhudds.UTT]

sounds to me like gerry isnt on watsons xmas card list !!

[anderlechtterrier]

Nov 1, 2008 21:56:57 GMT 1 bro600 said:

Jacko didn't get on with Gerry.
Ritchie was shit scared of Gerry,,
A prime example was that when Murphy travelled on the team coach there was no card schools allowed when he wasn't the players played.
There was also a time when 2 players got permission off Ritchie to go too Cheltenham races and booked an hotel and 2 days off. Gerry found out and Ritchie called both players back.

"Alleged Ramblings" - Are they true or not ?
A respected poster say's it's true and a few others have said similar.. But i was careful to put alleged.

I can also corroborate that as fact.

[marshian]

We need more characters like Boothy & Murphy involved with this club IMO. Even if this is going to be Boothy's last season, no need to diss him.

Funny how we've never heard any similar badmouthing of Gerry Murphy before Ternant came to this club - apart from Gerry being strict - which isn't a bad thing after Ritchie's apparent softness. The 2 sets of results of the 2 of them speak for themselves.

Gets the club a special award for services to our club - or shouldn't he have had that?

If Gerry doesn't like card schools & trips to the races whilst the players are basically 'on club business' rather than in the close season on their two month holidays, I don't blame him personally. I don't get 2 months holidays a year.

'Murphy should have nothing to do with team matters ........' if that's the case bang goes another revival after a poor set of results then, assuming Ternant will be sacked some time soon & Gerry doesn't get the caretaker job.

Sticking up for Ternant is one thing but this post STINKS.

[kleverboy]

I have known Gerry Murphy for a number of years, and the last thing you could ever say about him is that he is 'unprofessional' in any way!

I have been in Peter Jackson's office after games on numerous occasions with Gerry present, too... without the slightest hint of there ever being a problem between them. Quite the opposite, in fact!

Andy Booth is recovering at home from an operation he had in Croydon on Tuesday and hasn't been anywhere near first team matters for weeks, so why he should be game for a 'pop at' at this very moment is interesting.

Are you clutching at straws for Stan's abysmal managing of the side so far, Bro?

[bro600]

I don't think theres anyone at Town who as the ability to sort it out.
Football coaches like Jacko, Ternent and Murphy have had success based on their ability to garnish respect off players and then transfered this respect onto the field of play.
It's no surprize really that they do come to clash horns now and again and at a lot of clubs when a new man takes over he clears the decks, especially at higher levels.
I personally just think that Gerry has done so much for the club that it would be a shame for him to tarnish his image by basically being over protective of his academy graduates.
I know, as i have coached at under 14 level for a while that it's hard not to get involved when your players are having trouble with the under 15 coach, what Murphy might be going through.

The stand off between Stan and Gerry might be a case of it had to happen as they both have to keep their respect in tact in their respective positions but i think they are both being very unprofessional about it.

[bro600]

Nov 1, 2008 22:32:00 GMT 1 @kleverboy said:

I have known Gerry Murphy for a number of years, and the last thing you could ever say about him is that he is 'unprofessional' in any way!

I have been in Peter Jackson's office after games on numerous occasions with Gerry present, too... without the slightest hint of there ever being a problem between them. Quite the opposite, in fact!

Andy Booth is recovering at home from an operation he had in Croydon on Tuesday and hasn't been anywhere near first team matters for weeks, so why he should be game for a 'pop at' at this very moment is interesting.

Are you clutching at straws for Stan's abysmal managing of the side so far, Bro?

Far from it..
Just wondering if the broom shouldn't be used to clear the decks altogether and make a complete new start.

[Nickhudds.UTT]

the victim of all this shit is our football club and team, end of, and its not acceptable so it should get sorted and quick imo..

[specialun]

From what we saw with ricthie, gerry was right to put his boot in when it mattered and the end of season discipline, shape, structure was what was needed.

Whilst he should leave stan to get on with it, stan's relcutance to play the likes of worthy atthe start, holdsowrth, skarz were nothing short of mistifying.

As for boothy - stan gave him the contract (correctly imo). He didn't do what was needed and bring in another powerful striekr to compete. Boothy hsould not have been 1st choice this season.

Dean Hoyle said at the patrons meeting that he didn't vote for stan as manager - you could twist that all you like as well if you wanted but he was just being honest and open.

As for the story you seem to be referring to, the leakage from the club is so wide spread that this incident is juts one of 25+ I've heard of this season. I've heard this one a number times from different people and some of those before the event. Not all of these 'allegations' (correctly) are put on here as some people don't like to twist things in public, or pass on hearsay which may not be 100% corect. Others do make it and cause more bad than good and become far fetched.