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Post by jonnycrutches on Jan 20, 2009 11:46:52 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure that a lot of his goals were freekicks though (but I maybe mistaken). I'd welcome him back, purely because he's a proven Championship stiker at Blackpool and he's a lot better than what we've got at the minute!
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Post by anniehtafc on Jan 20, 2009 11:48:14 GMT 1
Liam Dickinson has been our most effective striker all season! Under the guidance of Clark & his staff I reckon he'd shine! I also agree, Clark,Blackie, et al could do something with him ;D
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Post by NookTerrier on Jan 20, 2009 11:53:42 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure that a lot of his goals were freekicks though (but I maybe mistaken). I'd welcome him back, purely because he's a proven Championship stiker at Blackpool and he's a lot better than what we've got at the minute! I wouldn't say he's proven at that level after a loan spell at blackpool which included a 5minute wonder double? I think.. against Plymouth and another charlton both who are relegation fodder. I aint too sure on Dickinson, he frustrated the hell out of me at times.
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Post by pozza on Jan 20, 2009 11:57:11 GMT 1
*must resit to post in thread*
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Post by Ox Terrier on Jan 20, 2009 12:00:26 GMT 1
I think Dickinson would be ideal. Great player to hold the ball up and distribute. Can score goals. This player would benefit everyone in the team - lets get him!
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Post by Admin on Jan 20, 2009 12:03:02 GMT 1
*must resit to post in thread* Take it you dont like him poz? The one game under ternant when we actually played football(swindon away) he was fantastic. With the football we're playing now under LC I think he'd score a bucketload.....
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Post by In sooth- - on Jan 20, 2009 12:05:22 GMT 1
Why does Clough not rate him?
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Post by scottieterrier on Jan 20, 2009 12:05:47 GMT 1
I've said before the the quality and attitude of the manager is a reflection on the players, he will do better under clark.
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Post by Davey Monroe on Jan 20, 2009 12:07:53 GMT 1
Does anyone know if this rumour has any substance, or is it just paper talk?
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jan 20, 2009 12:13:01 GMT 1
Rubbish. The team clearly WASN'T setup for his strengths.. Why pump long balls up front, when his strength is NOT in the air. How many headers did you see him score? We might not sign another striker in this window due to interest from other clubs, in our targets. If we get only one, and that is LD I think we are better off with him, than without - surely? Stockport played a 4-5-1 to play to his strengths and it worked for him in L2. They played the ball early to him and he held it up and played in the supporting midfield. Trying to do the same thing for us he looked useless. If it's him or no-one I'd reluctantly take him, but why take him when there are better strikers out there who won't ruin the shape and style of our team and won't score goals to the detriment of others scoring?
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Post by NookTerrier on Jan 20, 2009 12:14:02 GMT 1
Maybe that's why he's out of favour at derby? Just read on a messageboard.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jan 20, 2009 12:25:05 GMT 1
Dickinson is being linked with bids from a club he has been on loan at (Us), just after a similar bid from the manager of a club he has been at loan at (Grayson).
Seems to me that Derby are just announcing that he is for sale - opening price 500k.
Offer them 350k and they will probably take it.
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Post by alexdire on Jan 20, 2009 12:29:14 GMT 1
Why does Clough not rate him? From what he said yesterday I don't think he rates any of his players. He said his players at Burton did the basics better.
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 20, 2009 12:33:20 GMT 1
Hopefully this is just a rumour. I know hes a decent striker but i think we could do better than him for that amount of money. U fancy havin another arguement pozza?
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Post by pozza on Jan 20, 2009 12:35:03 GMT 1
U fancy havin another arguement pozza? Sorry mate, got too much on at work today
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Post by Rigodon on Jan 20, 2009 12:49:46 GMT 1
Rubbish. The team clearly WASN'T setup for his strengths.. Why pump long balls up front, when his strength is NOT in the air. How many headers did you see him score? We might not sign another striker in this window due to interest from other clubs, in our targets. If we get only one, and that is LD I think we are better off with him, than without - surely? Stockport played a 4-5-1 to play to his strengths and it worked for him in L2. They played the ball early to him and he held it up and played in the supporting midfield. Trying to do the same thing for us he looked useless. If it's him or no-one I'd reluctantly take him, but why take him when there are better strikers out there who won't ruin the shape and style of our team and won't score goals to the detriment of others scoring? I disagree still PR.. Stockport a la Jim Gannon was heralded as potential manager for us. "plays the game properly" - That could be misconstrued as successful quick direct play. Which would fall in line with what you say, however Direct and long ball are two different games. If you thought we played anything OTHER than hoofball, i'll simply agree to disagree! Hoofball got us nowhere, shame LD wasn't here for Murphy's tenure, as he may or may not have answered these questions of him as we didn't play hoofball then! Personally, 500k is the limit I would pay for him. I can't see why people don't want a striker who scored goals at our LOWEST point this season to be fair.. He couldn't harm our chances can he?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jan 20, 2009 12:57:07 GMT 1
Would rather have Danny Graham for that money tbh, but would still be happy to have Dickinson should his attitude be altered. The fact that Dickinson's attitude wasn't always that great should set alarm bells ringing! Unless it was linked directly to Ternent being boss, perhaps? Dickinson wouldn't be my choice, particularly for 500k. We can do better IMO, although it isn't easy to find the right guy!
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 20, 2009 13:16:12 GMT 1
Would rather have Danny Graham for that money tbh, but would still be happy to have Dickinson should his attitude be altered. The fact that Dickinson's attitude wasn't always that great should set alarm bells ringing! Unless it was linked directly to Ternent being boss, perhaps? Dickinson wouldn't be my choice, particularly for 500k. We can do better IMO, although it isn't easy to find the right guy! You say we could do better but it appears we are struggling to do so! So far it sounds like Cox - NO, Graham - NO, Porter - NO. Dicko is ungainly at times but the raw talant is there. Not brilliant but i'd have him over Jevons and Parker any day and I think over the course of a league 1 season he'd get 20ish goals.
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Post by aca00js on Jan 20, 2009 13:23:57 GMT 1
I'd definently take Dickinson. He had a great strike rate for us (1 in 2) and just remember how crap we was playing. He did get a couple of freekicks but he also got a couple of tappings. Which is what we need if you think back to saturday most of the chances should need somebody to get on the end of it, which is what Dickinson seems to be able to do.
He also has lots of potential. I hope we pull this off.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jan 20, 2009 14:05:00 GMT 1
I'm really in 2 minds about him. I'm amazed he did so well at Stockport if his job was to hold it up and play others in, I thought it was one of his weaker aspects for us. He gave away free kicks by not being able to take the ball and hold on to it up front, always backing into the defender. Cads / Roberts would have to play in a different way to how they do now to get the best from Dickinson. We need more of a Booth/Iwan Roberts/Wayne Allinson type up front with our current mode of supply from midfield.
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 20, 2009 14:15:08 GMT 1
I’m with eastmidsterrier on this one; don’t think he’s right for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 14:16:35 GMT 1
I wouldn't want him to be honest and not at £500k. He is better than what we have now but think the others we are in for are higher calibre players. I'd take him over not signing anyone but think there are better players out there for £500k.
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Post by NookTerrier on Jan 20, 2009 14:20:28 GMT 1
I wouldn't want him to be honest and not at £500k. He is better than what we have now but think the others we are in for are higher calibre players. I'd take him over not signing anyone but think there are better players out there for £500k. Like we're getting Daniel Sturridge ? ;D
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Post by therealyogibear on Jan 20, 2009 14:26:14 GMT 1
I think he is quality. He is a great finisher. The way we are playing currently he would score a shed load + he can take free kicks too.
I know he isnt the most physical or best in the air
I'd pay 500k
Ideally get a big lump up alongside him to do the physical stuff. Someone like Kandol I reckon would do well with him.
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Post by pozza on Jan 20, 2009 14:34:19 GMT 1
*must resit to post in thread* Take it you dont like him poz? Far from it mate, I think he'd be the perfect signing to combat our goal scoring troubles. I only put that as I had a good couple of hours worth of debate with pal8485 on here last night, and I didn't want to have to go over it all again
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Jan 20, 2009 14:41:49 GMT 1
I think for 500k a player of Dickinson's potential would be a bargain.
He has some aspects of his game to work on, but the talent, ability, and eye for goal are all there.
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Post by thomo on Jan 20, 2009 14:45:35 GMT 1
mmmm not sure about this one at all. Thought it was like playing with 10 men whenever he played for us. Pretty ineffective for 95% of games, meaning our defence and midfield were subject to unecessary pressure. But then he'd pop up with a goal. Unfortunately the goals very rarely made up for his poor performances. That said, if he's all we can get, he's probably worth a shot as no doubt would be more effective than our current strikeforce.
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Post by AndySk on Jan 20, 2009 14:49:01 GMT 1
Personally I wouldn't want him. The crosses Roberts and Cads are putting in I'd prefer someone who can head the ball. He might be a tall lad but didn't seem much good in the air to me. Def think he'd perform better under this set up though and not turnips
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Post by therealyogibear on Jan 20, 2009 14:54:52 GMT 1
Personally I wouldn't want him. The crosses Roberts and Cads are putting in I'd prefer someone who can head the ball. He might be a tall lad but didn't seem much good in the air to me. Def think he'd perform better under this set up though and not turnips Might be being greedy mate but we need Dickenson and a lump. The crosses Cads and Roberts are putting in need someone to head them in, or to cause chaos for Dicko to poach them
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Post by AndySk on Jan 20, 2009 15:04:56 GMT 1
No you're not being greedy Yogi (if I can call you yogi ). Def need 2 strikers in IMO. If we can get Boothy back he could be a short term fix as 'The Big Lump!!'
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