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Post by ronnette on Jan 20, 2009 15:08:13 GMT 1
according to todays Daily Mirror. Why would Derby want to sell him? The whole point of being on loan was to improve him for the future. With the goals he scored for us and Blackpool he's hardly been a failure. |
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Post by Billybathtub on Jan 20, 2009 15:11:20 GMT 1
Derby are strapped for cash.
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 20, 2009 15:14:58 GMT 1
Why would Derby want to sell him? The whole point of being on loan was to improve him for the future. With the goals he scored for us and Blackpool he's hardly been a failure. They’ve got about 40 players on their books and need the money; he was bought, and loaned, by the previous manager; it represents easy money for Clough. |
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Post by henseventee on Jan 20, 2009 15:28:47 GMT 1
What happened to that potential Disney takeover thing of Derby?
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Post by townatheart on Jan 20, 2009 15:33:18 GMT 1
What happened to that potential Disney takeover thing of Derby? think it turned out to be a bit of a Mickey Mouse offer, with some rather Gooffy terms  |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jan 20, 2009 15:33:53 GMT 1
maybe their offer was a bit Mickey Mouse...  darn you beat me to it! |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 20, 2009 15:38:19 GMT 1
Good grief, please say this isn't true.  Agreed ... we play shoite when he was here, he goes, we play brilliant and the people want him back  ah,that explains it ! i didnt realise we were shite due to dicko ,i thought it was down to stanley turnip |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 19:12:36 GMT 1
but if yuu have noticed rigg town have recently not being pumping the balls forward. as he isnt the strongest in the air we would play to his strenghts. for a big man he has exellent awareness and isnt exactly slow
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Post by HD8 Blue & White on Jan 20, 2009 19:28:23 GMT 1
Good grief, please say this isn't true. Agreed ... we play shoite when he was here, he goes, we play brilliant and the people want him back Your confused I think The reason we played so badly when he was here on loan were more down to Mr T not Liam Dickinson. The reason we have played better since he left is pretty much down to Mr C following on from Mr M and Mr Ms good work. Personally I think Mr D would be a great player and he would score a bag full of goals the way we are playing right now, |
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Post by colesy94 on Jan 20, 2009 20:16:37 GMT 1
i dnt understand 2 things -how people can be undecided has he scores u want goals he scores them
i could not care weather he was a big headed sonso at all aslong as he scores at least 1 every 2 !
and the other is that leeds have bechio and beckford so surley hed be sat on bench anyway :S ?
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 20, 2009 20:23:33 GMT 1
for me i would rather have a striker with an arieal threat with the crosses weve got coming in and would much rather sign graham,
but if we could have dicko aswell as graham then id but up for signing him.
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Post by nickhtafc on Jan 20, 2009 20:27:40 GMT 1
For 500k I think he would be a good buy, as frustrating as he can be, he scores goals and we all know we need that. I would prefer Graham, but realistically I doubt he would come here and I'm not overly keen on Porter.
He's young and I'm sure he would score 15-20 a season in league one and most probably the championship given the right environment.
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 20, 2009 20:31:19 GMT 1
For 500k I think he would be a good buy, as frustrating as he can be, he scores goals and we all know we need that. I would prefer Graham, but realistically I doubt he would come here and I'm not overly keen on Porter. He's young and I'm sure he would score 15-20 a season in league one and most probably the championship given the right environment. from what ive heard off carlisle fans any deal where graham leaves the club is down to them signing Jansen. i think its watch this space |
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Post by terrier10 on Jan 20, 2009 21:35:12 GMT 1
Dicko not even on bench for Derby tonight, and they are allowed to name 7 subs, so obviously not in Clough's plans.
Wasn't on bench for QPR game on Saturday either.
I would like to see him back here...if he was scoring when we were garbage, he will bag a hatful the way we are now playing.
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Post by midlander on Jan 20, 2009 23:13:00 GMT 1
Whilst his strength was not aerially, he did bag a good header against Leicester at the far post. A quality overhead kick at Millwall, a good finish at Swindon and was it two or three free-kicks (memory fails me). That's quite a variety of strikes from inside and outside the box.
The problem is that some people made up their mind about him after a poor performance at Cheltenham and we all know how hard it is to change some people's opinions. He has a lazy looking gait (Maskell had one too). Unlike Maskell though, he did work hard. I remember watching him occupy an entire back four single-handedly by closing all of them down whenever they had possession and still get booed by some cretins in the crowd. He wasn't lazy; he worked hard. He has plenty of skill, knows where the net is, knows his teammates, links play well and can strike a ball cleanly. He demonstrated all of that whilst with us and yet which finished article striker is a better and realistic option?! If we can persuade him to join, I think he'd be excellent for us (no doubt some would boo him though at the slightest mistake, just like they do with Williams)
We have to remember that Porter didn't want to join us, Graham may or may not want to (many Carlisle fans claim he is lazy by the way), Phillips is probably unrealistic at this stage, so where does that leave us?
Dickinson ticks a lot of the boxes, crucially he scores goals and offers a threat. I'd still like us to sign a second front man too, but getting in one would take away the immediate pressure.
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Post by terrierZed on Jan 20, 2009 23:17:15 GMT 1
I'd like to see Dickinson back here, he's still a raw talent and needs to work on a few areas within his game, however with the coaching setup we now have, he could be a big success here. He's already proven he could score goals here when we were providing pretty poor service, he'd get a hatful now.
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 20, 2009 23:18:32 GMT 1
most carlisle fans ive spoke to say graham is a work horse
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Post by martin27 on Jan 20, 2009 23:20:34 GMT 1
hes definatley needs some stability,it cant be easy getting loaned out all over the place,i think he`d do well at town,
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Post by midlander on Jan 20, 2009 23:27:30 GMT 1
most carlisle fans ive spoke to say graham is a work horse I don't doubt what you say is true. I was just summarising what I read on their forums when a bid was first made. Many were only keen on keeping him for his goalscoring and his general play and work-rate weren't highly thought of. Personally, I rate him from the three occasions I've seen him and I'd love to see him here. Just not sure that Town will be his preferred destination. |
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Post by The Real True Blue on Jan 20, 2009 23:29:26 GMT 1
If true, I think that would be an excellent acquisition. He's still a raw talent but I think he has great potential. I get the feeling Town fans were undecided about him but I rate him and while his heading ability isn't brilliant he's a big strong lad who gets in amongst 'em. I honest think £500k would be a snip. Mind you with Leeds Utd sniffing around he's more likely to go there (you know what agents/players are like!) AceT ;D Lxxds onlty want him on loan AceT. Thats why Lee Clark slapped 1/2 a mill down and told Derby he wants him. Makes perfect sense to me considering who the Derby chairman is and which team he supports. |
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Post by Jayeff13 on Jan 21, 2009 0:25:27 GMT 1
People need to remember even though he is 24 he's only played football as a professional for 3 years. He is know way near being a finished product yet, and let's face it with a backroom team like ours we would be in a good position to make him into one hell of a player.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Jan 21, 2009 0:33:43 GMT 1
Yes to Dicko from me
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jan 21, 2009 1:05:11 GMT 1
Graham every time ahead of Dickinson - if we get the choice! I can't think of anything Dicko offers that Graham doesn't do much better. Maybe free kicks, but Graham would suit us so much better.
The two GMs didn't want him.
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Post by hotdog on Jan 21, 2009 1:16:45 GMT 1
yea but the two GMs also didn't want Cadders on the right and Roberts on the left, and how much more effective do we look when we play them there under Clark. Although they Murphy did a good job steadying the ship, he is not always the best judge of talent.
Dickinson is a good player- he is a big lad who can strike a ball and has a fair amount of pace. He perhaps is not the best target man but he has the physical attributes to become a hell of a lot better with good coaching. At the moment he is still quite raw, as he was only playing non league about two or three seasons back, yet despite being raw he still scored some quality goals for us, with a bit more coaching and mentoring he will be a top top striker.
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Post by HD8 Blue & White on Jan 21, 2009 7:34:11 GMT 1
Whilst his strength was not aerially, he did bag a good header against Leicester at the far post. A quality overhead kick at Millwall, a good finish at Swindon and was it two or three free-kicks (memory fails me). That's quite a variety of strikes from inside and outside the box. The problem is that some people made up their mind about him after a poor performance at Cheltenham and we all know how hard it is to change some people's opinions. He has a lazy looking gait (Maskell had one too). Unlike Maskell though, he did work hard. I remember watching him occupy an entire back four single-handedly by closing all of them down whenever they had possession and still get booed by some cretins in the crowd. He wasn't lazy; he worked hard. He has plenty of skill, knows where the net is, knows his teammates, links play well and can strike a ball cleanly. He demonstrated all of that whilst with us and yet which finished article striker is a better and realistic option?! If we can persuade him to join, I think he'd be excellent for us (no doubt some would boo him though at the slightest mistake, just like they do with Williams) We have to remember that Porter didn't want to join us, Graham may or may not want to (many Carlisle fans claim he is lazy by the way), Phillips is probably unrealistic at this stage, so where does that leave us? Dickinson ticks a lot of the boxes, crucially he scores goals and offers a threat. I'd still like us to sign a second front man too, but getting in one would take away the immediate pressure. |
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Post by HD8 Blue & White on Jan 21, 2009 7:35:15 GMT 1
Midlander, the most sensible post Ive read on the Dicko subject |
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Post by The Roaring Twenties on Jan 21, 2009 8:39:12 GMT 1
Graham every time ahead of Dickinson - if we get the choice! I can't think of anything Dicko offers that Graham doesn't do much better. Maybe free kicks, but Graham would suit us so much better. The two GMs didn't want him. The grass is always greener eh. At £500K I'd love to have Dickinson back here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 8:54:47 GMT 1
I also thought Dickinson did well for us, and in the some of the games I thought he looked like class compared to some of the other players. He actually seemed to get worse under Ternent, and by the time he played his last game didn't look interested at all.
Rather have dicko from Derby then that Barazite who played the last half hour for them last night, quite appropriate that his name ends 'i-t-e'. There's gonna be a lot of songs sung about that boy if unless he bucks his ideas up.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jan 21, 2009 9:16:27 GMT 1
Whilst his strength was not aerially, he did bag a good header against Leicester at the far post. A quality overhead kick at Millwall, a good finish at Swindon and was it two or three free-kicks (memory fails me). That's quite a variety of strikes from inside and outside the box. The problem is that some people made up their mind about him after a poor performance at Cheltenham and we all know how hard it is to change some people's opinions. He has a lazy looking gait (Maskell had one too). Unlike Maskell though, he did work hard. I remember watching him occupy an entire back four single-handedly by closing all of them down whenever they had possession and still get booed by some cretins in the crowd. He wasn't lazy; he worked hard. He has plenty of skill, knows where the net is, knows his teammates, links play well and can strike a ball cleanly. He demonstrated all of that whilst with us and yet which finished article striker is a better and realistic option?! If we can persuade him to join, I think he'd be excellent for us (no doubt some would boo him though at the slightest mistake, just like they do with Williams) Dickinson ticks a lot of the boxes, crucially he scores goals and offers a threat. I'd still like us to sign a second front man too, but getting in one would take away the immediate pressure. I guess we must have been watching different players  I don't remember him working hard at all, in fact his lack of work was the most striking thing about him. He used to get fired up after a goal and really get stuck in for 5 mins and during that 5 mins he'd actually look ok. I'd disagree about skill too, other than being able to strike a free kick, he had little skill in terms of picking a pass or taking a man on or even controlling the ball first time. Very poor at linking play. His annoying pretentious and ultimately unsuccessful little flicks were positively non league standard. Graham isn't super man but he knows were the net is on top of being hard working, decent in the air and an intelligent link player - Carlisle's goals against Leeds showed that. This thread depresses me, so I'm happy that at least the poll showed Dicko is the 3rd choice of the fans. |
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Post by therealyogibear on Jan 21, 2009 9:57:28 GMT 1
Cant we get Graham and Dicko?
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darn you beat me to it!
