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Post by pozza on Jan 23, 2009 12:44:16 GMT 1
We bought some quality players under Turnip! The only one i count as quality is Roberts. Add Goodwin to that list as well
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Post by TerrierArmy on Jan 23, 2009 12:44:52 GMT 1
The only one i count as quality is Roberts. Add Goodwin to that list as well And Butler too.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 23, 2009 12:48:51 GMT 1
Add Goodwin to that list as well And Butler too. Very poor return though for practically doubling the wage bill!
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Post by TerrierArmy on Jan 23, 2009 12:52:35 GMT 1
Very poor return though for practically doubling the wage bill! Ah well without ST, we'd never got LC et al. So silver lining and all that Who cares now..the Huddersfield Revolution has begun. 2009 the year of terrier
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 23, 2009 12:56:13 GMT 1
Very poor return though for practically doubling the wage bill! Ah well without ST, we'd never got LC et al. So silver lining and all that Who cares now..the Huddersfield Revolution has begun. 2009 the year of terrier Yep I second that, 2009 the year of the Terrier (in Yorkshire at least) ... and I believe it's Fox hunting season - the omens point to three points tomorrow
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 23, 2009 12:56:19 GMT 1
Goodwin didn't look quality when we got him though, hes only started to do the business since Clarke came in. I only said Roberts coz he was an established Championship player that im sure other clubs wanted, Pilkington and Ainsworth are both high quality players that i thought we would never get and that was how i felt about roberts. I didn't feel like that when we got Butler and Goodwin.
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 23, 2009 12:58:06 GMT 1
Goodwin didn't look quality when we got him though, hes only started to do the business since Clarke came in. The GMs might have something to say about that.
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Post by stevvy on Jan 23, 2009 12:59:11 GMT 1
goodwin wasnt helped by being stuck at right back by turkey turnip
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Post by Davey Monroe on Jan 23, 2009 13:01:48 GMT 1
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Post by pozza on Jan 23, 2009 13:13:58 GMT 1
Goodwin didn't look quality when we got him though, hes only started to do the business since Clarke came in. Goodwin was played at right back by Turnip at first though, so thats probs why he never made an in immediate impression. He's started to do the business now because Clark (and the GM's) are playing him in his natural role, and nobody can argue he hasn't looked quality playing in his natural role.
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 23, 2009 13:17:42 GMT 1
Goodwin didn't look quality when we got him though, hes only started to do the business since Clarke came in. Goodwin was played at right back by Turnip at first though, so thats probs why he never made an in immediate impression. He's started to do the business now because Clark (and the GM's) are playing him in his natural role, and nobody can argue he hasn't looked quality playing in his natural role. Before we start arguin again, Goodwin is prob my fav town player at the mo so im not havin a go at him. He looks quality now, i was just sayin that we didn't really see him as being a quality signing when we got him but we all though of Roberts as the messiah. Ainsworth and Pilkington are welll known players that other clubs are gonna take notice of and finally see that we are a big club going places.
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Post by countyboy on Jan 23, 2009 13:19:17 GMT 1
Another County fan here re: Pilks.
I'll almost echo what Stranded said earlier. My one area of dispute is that he is much more of a winger/attacking midfield players than a back to the defender striker. He's played up front on his own a couple of times but he isn't going to put himself about and win many headers in that role. Playing off a target man would be a much better bet.
As a winger however, he has massive potential, quick and able with both feet, but still a little green at times.
He'd be a good signing on his own but with Ainsworth...Wow. You've done a good piece of business there.
Any rumour at your end on the fee BTW ?
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Post by stevvy on Jan 23, 2009 13:23:04 GMT 1
people were saying last night that its ÂŁ550k plus add ons,whether thats true,no idea
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Post by Davey Monroe on Jan 23, 2009 13:24:02 GMT 1
Just looking at last weeks results... Hereford 5-0 Oldham ( Ainsworth scores twice) Stockport 3-1 Southend ( Pilkington scores twice) News of the World League one team of the day includes Ainsworth (Hereford) Right wing, Pilkington (Stockport) Left wing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2009 13:36:00 GMT 1
Goodwin is a really good player.
He works hard and does the thankless tasks well but also helps get forward and has a surprisingly good range of passing and crossing. He seems to thrive more in the passing style we have now rather than the hit and hope of days gone by.
Ainsworth looks a tricky player and a threat to opponents. I am going to have to do my homework on Pilkington and see what he is like in terms of style, attributes. What I hear of him is all good though.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 23, 2009 13:38:48 GMT 1
Goodwin didn't look quality when we got him though, hes only started to do the business since Clarke came in. Goodwin was played at right back by Turnip at first though, so thats probs why he never made an in immediate impression. He's started to do the business now because Clark (and the GM's) are playing him in his natural role, and nobody can argue he hasn't looked quality playing in his natural role. Goodwin started the season where he is now and was dreadfull. Ternent dropped him, then brought him back at right back a few games later when he inexplicably dropped Holdsworth, and Goodwin was dreadfull there aswell. Being out of position isn't an excuse as hes played there loads of times in the past. Might be just co-incidence but as soon as Turnip left, Goodwin looked a totally different player. Still has his faults ( not that you'd believe that on here) like being a little slow in posession, giving away the ball in daft positions and conceding needless free kicks around the box, but overall he is 10 times the player he was under Turnip ( not the only one)
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Post by westhtafc on Jan 23, 2009 13:53:17 GMT 1
Just looking at last weeks results... Hereford 5-0 Oldham ( Ainsworth scores twice) Stockport 3-1 Southend ( Pilkington scores twice) News of the World League one team of the day includes Ainsworth (Hereford) Right wing, Pilkington (Stockport) Left wing. When they are both available i can see Ainsworth on thr right, Pilkington on the left, with Roberts possibly moving upfront with a new striker.
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Post by panasonicgeese on Jan 23, 2009 14:03:27 GMT 1
You've got a cracking player in Pilks. Highly skilled with both feet, can play on either wing, behind a frontman or as a striker on his own if nessasary, will always give 100% and scores goals from anywhere I'll tell you this though, I'm thoroughly pissed off he's gone to another League One club, whilst I'd be a fool to deny that you are a bigger club than us, at this moment in time you are a rival in our Playoff push and I would have much rather seen him go to the Championsip. He will do well for you I have no doubt. Thanks for coming on here and posting your views on Pilko. I do feel your frustrations at losing one of your top players at a crucial time of the season. DATM would have melted if we had done something similar with Gary Roberts for example. Good luck for the season.
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Post by pozza on Jan 23, 2009 14:06:02 GMT 1
Before we start arguin again, Goodwin is prob my fav town player at the mo so im not havin a go at him. He looks quality now, i was just sayin that we didn't really see him as being a quality signing when we got him but we all though of Roberts as the messiah. Ainsworth and Pilkington are welll known players that other clubs are gonna take notice of and finally see that we are a big club going places. I wasn't trying to start an argument or anything like that fella, I know what your saying as I felt the same. Was just pointing out that reason he probably didn't look brilliant to start with was becuase he was playing out of position. I agree with what you say though, these 2 new players are more "well known" throughout Football so people will have started to sit up and know that we mean business
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Post by midlander on Jan 23, 2009 14:13:01 GMT 1
Goodwin was played at right back by Turnip at first though, so thats probs why he never made an in immediate impression. He's started to do the business now because Clark (and the GM's) are playing him in his natural role, and nobody can argue he hasn't looked quality playing in his natural role. Goodwin started the season where he is now and was dreadfull. Ternent dropped him, then brought him back at right back a few games later when he inexplicably dropped Holdsworth, and Goodwin was dreadfull there aswell. Being out of position isn't an excuse as hes played there loads of times in the past. Might be just co-incidence but as soon as Turnip left, Goodwin looked a totally different player. Still has his faults ( not that you'd believe that on here) like being a little slow in posession, giving away the ball in daft positions and conceding needless free kicks around the box, but overall he is 10 times the player he was under Turnip ( not the only one) It's amazing Slapps, that you continuously look to all his faults and yet defend Worthy's faults to the hilt. Now I know you've never really liked Goodwin as a player, although you have praised him a little more recently. I don't think anyone thinks he is a demi-god on here; many just like his attitude, committment and ability to do many of the simple things well. I don't think he started his time with us that badly either. His pre-season performances were promising and he played well against Stockport. Ternent dropped Holdsworth because he had been poor and tried Goodwin there. He didn't do particularly brilliantly at right back, but wasn't a disaster either. Since Town started playing football on the floor, Goodwin has looked a much better player. Holdsworth has had a very average season so far and escapes your wrath!! Every Town player has their faults that they could improve, otherwise they wouldn't be here. I wasn't particularly overwhelmed upon the signing of Goodwin, but I'd say he's been vital to the way we've turned our season round. Name me another Town holding midfielder that has been as impressive as Goodwin in the past 5 years or a player in the current squad that can fulfil his role better.
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Post by thomo on Jan 23, 2009 14:14:28 GMT 1
Both sound great signings. In fact they sound absolutely brilliant. I'm just a bit taken back.
Last week we were all saying how delighted we were to have two fantastic wingers in the form on cads and roberts. Now we have 4 great wingers?
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Jan 23, 2009 14:16:39 GMT 1
Quick note to add, the Gallagher deal is now looking very unlikely.
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 23, 2009 14:20:03 GMT 1
Pilkington on the left, with Roberts possibly moving upfront with a new striker. Given what the County supporters have said about Pilkington being two-footed and the fact that he leads Stockport’s stats for number of shots I would say the chances of that happening are < 0.
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Post by Davey Monroe on Jan 23, 2009 14:28:46 GMT 1
It's amazing Slapps, that you continuously look to all his faults and yet defend Worthy's faults to the hilt. Now I know you've never really liked Goodwin as a player, although you have praised him a little more recently. I don't think anyone thinks he is a demi-god on here; many just like his attitude, committment and ability to do many of the simple things well. I don't think he started his time with us that badly either. His pre-season performances were promising and he played well against Stockport. Ternent dropped Holdsworth because he had been poor and tried Goodwin there. He didn't do particularly brilliantly at right back, but wasn't a disaster either. Since Town started playing football on the floor, Goodwin has looked a much better player. Holdsworth has had a very average season so far and escapes your wrath!! Every Town player has their faults that they could improve, otherwise they wouldn't be here. I wasn't particularly overwhelmed upon the signing of Goodwin, but I'd say he's been vital to the way we've turned our season round. Name me another Town holding midfielder that has been as impressive as Goodwin in the past 5 years or a player in the current squad that can fulfil his role better. I agree 100% with that post, midlander! I'd agree with those who say Worthy has been one of our best performers over the last few seasons but surely even the most fanatical Worthington fans would have to admit that we haven't missed him one bit over the last few weeks; and it would appear Clark doesn't seem to rate him much either. In my opinion, on current form, Goodwin is a candidate for "Player of the Season".
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Post by AndySk on Jan 23, 2009 14:41:24 GMT 1
"When they are both available i can see Ainsworth on thr right, Pilkington on the left, with Roberts possibly moving upfront with a new striker"
The way Roberts and Cads have been playing on the wing over the last few weeks do we really want to stop playing them there? (I suppose we could always wait a couple of weeks for Cads to pick up his season ending injury mind you!). It's fantastic the options we are beginning to have though!
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Post by stockportstu on Jan 23, 2009 14:50:19 GMT 1
A couple of good signings for 'Udders there.
I'll give you my view on Pilks... As has been mentioned before he can play with both feet, he can play left wing, right wing, attacking mid, striker. He's quick and very strong - suprisingly good in the air, people often underate that area of his game, but he is six foot and can jump with the best of them. Brave as a lion and works very hard for the team.
However, in recent games he has added a whole new level to his game - in the matches against Swindon and Southend he stole the show, and really started to show that he is a match winner. If the lad can consistently produce the form he has been showing for the past month or so then he is a top half Championship player/possibly Prem player.
Look after him.
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Post by hufcbull on Jan 23, 2009 14:52:55 GMT 1
Amazing wingers, i can see you easing your way to promotion
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 23, 2009 14:54:40 GMT 1
A couple of good signings for 'Udders there. I'll give you my view on Pilks... As has been mentioned before he can play with both feet, he can play left wing, right wing, attacking mid, striker. He's quick and very strong - suprisingly good in the air, people often underate that area of his game, but he is six foot and can jump with the best of them. Brave as a lion and works very hard for the team. However, in recent games he has added a whole new level to his game - in the matches against Swindon and Southend he stole the show, and really started to show that he is a match winner. If the lad can consistently produce the form he has been showing for the past month or so then he is a top half Championship player/possibly Prem player. Look after him. Thanks for taking the time to post that. All the best for the rest of season, except you know when.
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Post by henseventee on Jan 23, 2009 15:01:51 GMT 1
Pilko as a replacement for Collins perhaps?
Smithies Holdsworth - Butler - Clarke - Werling Ainsworth - Goodwin- Pilko - Roberts Cad - SomeoneNew
Would be a pretty impressive attacking formation, without really changing much defensively from a team that hasn't conceded more than 1 goal in a game for what seems like ages.
If we need a bit more steel, just let Cad drop right, he tends to that when he's up front anyhoo.
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 23, 2009 15:24:17 GMT 1
i think Clarke likes cads and will move him up front coz he has a bit more presence than jevons or parker. will be v interesting to see where he is gonna play everyone and who gets dropped.
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