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Post by Dooky on Mar 18, 2009 14:20:18 GMT 1
As much as I sympathise with anyone who is out of work I agree that football is a luxury and I would not be happy paying twice as much as someone because I have not been laid off (yet). It would also open the gates to the lay abouts who have scrounged off this country and are partially responsible for the state we are in now!
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Post by pozza on Mar 18, 2009 14:41:17 GMT 1
And Pozza, your arguments amaze me. Do you always have such a 'look after number one' attitude? If you found out that someone paid less for the same holiday as you would you enjoy your holiday less? If you are lucky enough to be working I fail to see how someone paying less for a ticket affects you. I always look after number 1 first, whats wrong with that  With regards to your comment, no I wouldn't enjoy my holiday any less, but it would annoy me slightly. One product should equal 1 price. |
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Post by TerrierArmy on Mar 18, 2009 14:53:28 GMT 1
One product should equal 1 price. Commie  |
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Post by pozza on Mar 18, 2009 14:57:42 GMT 1
One product should equal 1 price. Commie Its right though aint it. Would you walk into a sports shop and ask for the pair of trainers your going to buy be half price just becuase you are out of work? No you wouldn't. You'd either buy a cheaper pair, or go without. No difference when it comes to Football IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 15:08:30 GMT 1
So what about Town's offer where you could buy a ticket on a Monday for a fiver or pay £20 on the day of the game. There's tonnes of examples of different prices for the same product and do you seriously think that somone like the original poster wouldn't rather be working and be able to pay full price? Your attitude saddens me, that's all. You seem to think that people out of work are there through choice and are looking for any handouts they can get. 99% of people are not like that and a gesture from Town would not hurt you one little bit.
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Post by leedsterrier on Mar 18, 2009 15:17:42 GMT 1
What's to stop this being abused by people who initially find themselves out of work but then find employment but fail to declare it to the club?
I do feel for people who are genuinely unemployed through circumstance or ill health - I myself had a period of prolonged unemployment a couple of years ago so I can sympathise with anyone in this situation. However when it came to Town I used to pick and choose my games and didn't expect the club to afford me any special treatment by way of reducing prices.
When you're income is reduced you have to cut your cloth accordingly.
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Post by Stan_Lee on Mar 18, 2009 15:45:37 GMT 1
Digger,Boothys9Iron and HuddsTerrier .... Thanks for the support I thought i was in the wrong after some of the uninformed comments coming my way. Unfortunately DATM seems to have its fair share of " Village Idiots" . Really? Sorry, we should all have said how right you were in YOUR OPINION? Just because a couple of people have agreed with you doesn't make you correct, it just shows that on a subject such as this, opinions will differ greatly but that doesn't make any of us right or wrong, it just means we share the same opinion as some and not others. The 'Village Idiot' comment only makes one person look so........................ OK, I take back the "Village idiot" comment ..... Sorry. But i do stand by the "uninformed" comment. Just to put people right on my situation. I had worked the last 33 Years of my life (49 years old) 23 of those years for a company at Manchester airport, the company closed the station down and gave out the work to a third party,who paid half the wage ,no union and no nothing. This happened 12 months ago,since then 3 months work through an agency (labouring),was given 48 hours notice,then finished,you have no rights at all when your temp staff. Since then countless job applications,speculative letters and CVs. But no job. There will always be people who play the system and sit on their backsides ...... I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. I have supported Town now for the last 42 years. If things stay as they are it will the first season I'll miss. I am not asking for other people to subsidy me just a bit of help in difficult times. |
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Post by Stan_Lee on Mar 18, 2009 15:52:21 GMT 1
Oh! and by the way anybody know of any jobs going,
give me a shout .
Thanks.
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Post by anniehtafc on Mar 18, 2009 16:32:23 GMT 1
Oh! and by the way anybody know of any jobs going, give me a shout . Thanks. What sort of job you looking for, do you live in the Huddersfield area? I can see where you'e coming from, having a job for so many years then losing it and having to "sign on", do you go to the job centre every day/week? It's not good being out of work at the moment, might be lots of jobs out there but so many people going for the same job does not bode well, i lost my job over three years ago, luckyly my husband was still working, it took me nearly a month to find another, been here three years now(construction) and the way new jobs are slowing down it's very worrying.  But three years ago we were in the middle of the season, so i already had my season ticket, so other things had to be sacrificed: Sky TV, Broadband, things that we didn't "really" need etc,. Good Luck with the Job Hunting!  |
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Post by Stan_Lee on Mar 18, 2009 16:56:10 GMT 1
Oh! and by the way anybody know of any jobs going, give me a shout . Thanks. What sort of job you looking for, do you live in the Huddersfield area? I can see where you'e coming from, having a job for so many years then losing it and having to "sign on", do you go to the job centre every day/week? It's not good being out of work at the moment, might be lots of jobs out there but so many people going for the same job does not bode well, i lost my job over three years ago, luckyly my husband was still working, it took me nearly a month to find another, been here three years now(construction) and the way new jobs are slowing down it's very worrying. But three years ago we were in the middle of the season, so i already had my season ticket, so other things had to be sacrificed: Sky TV, Broadband, things that we didn't "really" need etc,. Good Luck with the Job Hunting! I live in Hudd's ... 23 years as a Aircraft Handler (moving aircraft around the airport, pushback,in and out the hangers). And yes i know .... not much call for that around here. Manchester and L$$ds/Brad Airport are letting people go in my work. I'm looking at unskilled manual work, driving,caretaker,etc. Sadly so are thousands of others. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 17:12:44 GMT 1
They were advertising for bin men in Derby, they had 16 jobs available. 800 applied. That's what people looking for work are up against right now. I don't envy you Towndude. Those 500,000 jobs that Gordon Brown was spouting on about - which someone else mentioned earlier in this thread - are casual labour, 5 hours a week, shit like that. In reality not many are recruiting, certainly not in the private sector and certianly not much secure, long term stuff.
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Post by pozza on Mar 18, 2009 17:15:44 GMT 1
So what about Town's offer where you could buy a ticket on a Monday for a fiver or pay £20 on the day of the game. There's tonnes of examples of different prices for the same product and do you seriously think that somone like the original poster wouldn't rather be working and be able to pay full price? Your attitude saddens me, that's all. You seem to think that people out of work are there through choice and are looking for any handouts they can get. 99% of people are not like that and a gesture from Town would not hurt you one little bit. Can you tell me where have I ever said that: a) the original poster wouldn't rather be working b) that I think people who are out of work are there through choice I've never said any of the above. All i've said is that I dont think its fair on people that are working pay one price, and those that dont pay another (cheaper) price. Its quite evident from reading the thread that there are quite a few other who feel the same way too. |
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Post by boothys9iron on Mar 18, 2009 17:16:35 GMT 1
Your quite right Huddsterrier! I have friends in the construction industry who have worked 7 days a week for the last 5 years, and then through no fault of there own have now lost there jobs and are finding it nearly impossible to find work!!! I really feel for them, then I come on here to read " I don't want my Saturday afternoons ruined by having smelly dirty unemployed tramps next to me" is this a joke!! DONNIE BRASCO YOU ARE AN UNEDUCATED FUCKING PRICK!!! Don't comment on some thing you haven't got a clue about! I AM A WELL EDUCATED, EMPLOYED, WELL PAID PRICK ACTUALLY You may be academically educated, but posting silly things like "I don't want my Saturday afternoons ruined by having smelly dirty unemployed tramps next to me" proves you are a bit thick really!! And congratulations on being well paid.....your an inspiration! |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Mar 18, 2009 17:34:05 GMT 1
Towndude have you thought about the betting industry, statistically in a recession betting does well (people look for quick fixs) and with William Hill only in L**ds you may find something there, even if it's just taking bets over the phone, it may just do for the time being. You're obviously into your sport so maybe worth a punt (pardon the pun) ) and you can use an interest in sports a reason for wanting to work there. Hope you get sorted soon though fella ... likewise ding |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 17:39:17 GMT 1
So what about Town's offer where you could buy a ticket on a Monday for a fiver or pay £20 on the day of the game. There's tonnes of examples of different prices for the same product and do you seriously think that somone like the original poster wouldn't rather be working and be able to pay full price? Your attitude saddens me, that's all. You seem to think that people out of work are there through choice and are looking for any handouts they can get. 99% of people are not like that and a gesture from Town would not hurt you one little bit. Can you tell me where have I ever said that: a) the original poster wouldn't rather be working b) that I think people who are out of work are there through choice I've never said any of the above. All i've said is that I dont think its fair on people that are working pay one price, and those that dont pay another (cheaper) price. Its quite evident from reading the thread that there are quite a few other who feel the same way too. It was the implication I took from all your comments. Especially your comment that you'd see a discounted ticket as somehow penalising you for having a job! I still don't see how it even affects you! The only way it would is if you were unlucky enough to lose your job you may still be able to afford to watch Town. |
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Post by pozza on Mar 18, 2009 18:18:41 GMT 1
OK maybe I should have worded it better, but the sentiment would be the same. It effects me as i'm also a customer of a business so therefore i'm entitled to my point of view on the subject.
Say for for example you went to the pub with your mate. You work so you pay £2.20 a pint, he doesn't so he pays £1.10 a pint. Would you be happy with that?
You go down the supermarket, you pay £1 for a pint of milk, someone who doesn't work pays 50p for the pint of milk, would be happy with that?
You go out for a meal with your mrs, your mat & his mrs. The bill comes to £100. You spit it so its £50 each, however, becuase your mate doesn't work then they only have to pay £25. Would you be happy with that?
I'm guessing no, and I cant see many others being either. Going to football is the exactly the same as all of those situations above. If every business did 2 rates for the employed & the un-employed then eventually everyone would just stop working as they'd be able to do the same stuff (as the cost would be cheaper) than they can do now without having to work 40/50/60 hours a week.
As someone already stated on the thread, if you have less income available then you cut your cloth accordingly to survive. If you have to cut ffotball from your lifestyle to be able to afford to survive then unfortunatley thats just the way it is.
If I didn't work I wouldn't expect Town to offer me a cheaper season ticket, why should they? I'd just not get a season ticket & attend games as & when I could afford to go.
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Post by jonnyhtfc90 on Mar 18, 2009 20:10:18 GMT 1
I won't be having a season ticket next year for the first time since 95/96  . |
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Post by macgalph on Mar 18, 2009 22:59:52 GMT 1
Don't people on the dole get their beer free. Their dole money pays for it. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 23:33:54 GMT 1
I AM A WELL EDUCATED, EMPLOYED, WELL PAID PRICK ACTUALLY You may be academically educated, but posting silly things like "I don't want my Saturday afternoons ruined by having smelly dirty unemployed tramps next to me" proves you are a bit thick really!! And congratulations on being well paid.....your an inspiration! Thank you but it is you're not your |
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Post by Dell12 on Mar 19, 2009 0:11:16 GMT 1
As a student i'm going to stick up for cheap tickets for students. I think it's partly down to disposable income. The second reason is also applicable to Banks/ Supermarkets and many shops in general why give a 10% or so discount to students. It's to encourage their custom! For example i've got a 5 year railcard free from Natwest simply for being a student, I get 5% off at Summerfield and 10% off an Amazon. In general shops want student's custom because in the long term on average graduates earn more than non graduates.
Just my opinion like!
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Post by townfanjamie on Mar 19, 2009 0:36:45 GMT 1
There are plenty of jobs out there! Go get one!
My 2 cents.
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Post by boothys9iron on Mar 19, 2009 0:42:38 GMT 1
You may be academically educated, but posting silly things like "I don't want my Saturday afternoons ruined by having smelly dirty unemployed tramps next to me" proves you are a bit thick really!! And congratulations on being well paid.....your an inspiration! Thank you but it is you're not your A very 'well educated' reply, well done have some more money!! |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Mar 19, 2009 0:47:29 GMT 1
Donnie brasco with your comments about sitting at back of antich and people swearing, I wonder if you are the same person, that someone on here posted about after the game two week ago, who was getting angry and shouting "stop swearing my sons only fucking 6 years old!" genius!
I don't agree with discounted tickets for unemployed, but maybe something to help them? Perhaps chance to pay by direct debit? I know they can pay weekly on the gate but it's so much more expensive, or perhaps paying £100 initially, and then have to collect each ticket from ticket office with £5 to be paid each time?
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Post by philex on Mar 19, 2009 1:10:20 GMT 1
Donnie brasco with your comments about sitting at back of antich and people swearing, I wonder if you are the same person, that someone on here posted about after the game two week ago, who was getting angry and shouting "stop swearing my sons only fucking 6 years old!" genius! I don't agree with discounted tickets for unemployed, but maybe something to help them? Perhaps chance to pay by direct debit? I know they can pay weekly on the gate but it's so much more expensive, or perhaps paying £100 initially, and then have to collect each ticket from ticket office with £5 to be paid each time? You can already pay for your ticket in monthly direct debit instalments. |
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Post by bluearmy86 on Mar 19, 2009 9:37:51 GMT 1
£100 initially, and then have to collect each ticket from ticket office with £5 to be paid each time? The only problem with this is that the unemployed don't carry cash on them, just gin. |
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Post by mayorofcov (BFHB) Honours on Mar 19, 2009 9:53:38 GMT 1
I will be getting a season ticket nxt year, and dont travel to many home games If anybody wants to use it F.O.C. no problem just contact me.
Lower tier with all the good looking fcukers.
LETS GET READY TOOOOO RUMBLE TTID
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Post by mattyterrier2k8 on Mar 19, 2009 10:27:37 GMT 1
i was made redundant in september and since done a little bit of part time work here and there i have a morgage to pay and this must take priority over everything and sadly over huddersfield town.
despite handing out hundreds of cv's and filling in loads of application forms from working in retail, warehouse and nhs ive had no work i even got told that for a simple picking and packing assistants job that i applied for over 700 people had applied for it.
im 25 and worked since leaving school and it makes me sick that this country then expects you to live on £53 a week after paying so much tax,national insurance and council tax.
even if town would make some sort of a concession i still wouldnt be able to afford but id like to think they would do as it would be a brilliant gesture and i would appreciate it even though i still wouldnt be able to afford.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2009 10:29:25 GMT 1
Top man. We are all Town fans after all - let's fucking well stick together.
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Post by mayorofcov (BFHB) Honours on Mar 19, 2009 10:44:31 GMT 1
If I was Dean hoyle I would in times of need, be helping out all the people that had helped me out. Dont worry lads keep ur peckers up If our expantion plans, go according to plan then there will be some jobs going here.
OOOOO WHEN THE TOWN
GO MARCHING IN
OOOOO WHEN THE TOWN
GO MARCHING IN
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Mar 19, 2009 11:23:08 GMT 1
Ive had an idea... (preparing for it to get shot to pieces...)
Perhaps three different pay schemes?
1) Pay per match at match day prices, £24 (not sure what is currently)
2) Season tickets £230 - usual advantages, choice of seat/keep favourite seat, first choice on renewing next season (which will be important if we go up)
3) how about a discount card scheme? for example... Pay £50 for the discount card, and every home game you need to buy a match ticket but on production of the discount card you get match ticket for say £8?
Obviously number 3 seems very appealing, especially to me as i only make 70% of games, and i think it would be important to keep season ticket numbers as high as possible, but i feel this would be done as this method has the obvious disadvantages... such as no reserved seat, only one ticket per person (so any guest would pay full) also if we go up this next season, then no first choice or keeping reserved seats, or this offer could be made only available to the FM lower?
any thoughts?
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