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Post by nsevent on Apr 25, 2009 18:48:49 GMT 1
Who was it that helped us to get out of Administration? We did.
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Post by nsevent on Apr 25, 2009 18:50:25 GMT 1
What was KD actually talking about at half-time by the way? I could only hear mumbling where I sit.
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Apr 25, 2009 18:51:27 GMT 1
What was KD actually talking about at half-time by the way? I could only hear mumbling where I sit. Couldn't hear for the boos, the only word I picked up was him saying 'Administration'
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Post by hotdog on Apr 25, 2009 18:53:51 GMT 1
i was in the tunnel so i got to hear what he said.
From memory he said something along the lines of:
'how fantastic it was to see Andy Booth score that goal on his last home appearance for the club....it makes me very proud to look at how far we have come as a club over the last five years, from the dark days of administration. And now its time for me to hand over the mantle to chairman elect Dean Hoyle. '
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Post by betsvigi9 on Apr 25, 2009 18:54:05 GMT 1
It revealed quite a split in the crowd, to my right the reaction was booing and chanting 'thief', but to my left there just seemed to be general clapping. It seems that generally only people who come on here, or have friends that do have any idea what is going on. Be interesting to hear if Mids ran into Davy at any point today. Or maybe the people who applauded rather than booed, just don't agree with you. Have you ever considered that?
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Post by downatthepharm on Apr 25, 2009 18:55:25 GMT 1
It revealed quite a split in the crowd, to my right the reaction was booing and chanting 'thief', but to my left there just seemed to be general clapping. It seems that generally only people who come on here, or have friends that do have any idea what is going on. Be interesting to hear if Mids ran into Davy at any point today. Or maybe the people who applauded rather than booed, just don't agree with you. Have you ever considered that? How could anyone agree with what he has done unless they didnt know all the facts?
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Apr 25, 2009 18:58:03 GMT 1
It revealed quite a split in the crowd, to my right the reaction was booing and chanting 'thief', but to my left there just seemed to be general clapping. It seems that generally only people who come on here, or have friends that do have any idea what is going on. Be interesting to hear if Mids ran into Davy at any point today. Or maybe the people who applauded rather than booed, just don't agree with you. Have you ever considered that? Are you suggesting that despite knowing everything Davy has done, they still think he's doing a great job and agree with him removing our shares in the stadium? That doesn't seem likely to me.
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Post by Richard1986 on Apr 25, 2009 18:59:25 GMT 1
It revealed quite a split in the crowd, to my right the reaction was booing and chanting 'thief', but to my left there just seemed to be general clapping. It seems that generally only people who come on here, or have friends that do have any idea what is going on. Be interesting to hear if Mids ran into Davy at any point today. Or maybe the people who applauded rather than booed, just don't agree with you. Have you ever considered that?
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Post by nsevent on Apr 25, 2009 19:03:55 GMT 1
Or maybe the people who applauded rather than booed, just don't agree with you. Have you ever considered that? Are you suggesting that despite knowing everything Davy has done, they still think he's doing a great job and agree with him removing our shares in the stadium? That doesn't seem likely to me. Why not, I think he's done a good job over the last few years in difficult circumstances, and there was a lot of sense in removing the stadium share from the club. If he "wasn't bothered", he wouldn't have taken the action with Ritchie and Jackson.
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Apr 25, 2009 19:11:54 GMT 1
Are you suggesting that despite knowing everything Davy has done, they still think he's doing a great job and agree with him removing our shares in the stadium? That doesn't seem likely to me. Why not, I think he's done a good job over the last few years in difficult circumstances, and there was a lot of sense in removing the stadium share from the club. If he "wasn't bothered", he wouldn't have taken the action with Ritchie and Jackson. You absolute wind up merchant.
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Post by specialun on Apr 25, 2009 20:01:34 GMT 1
I got into a debate with two guys in front of me - both knowledgeable about football but looked at me as though I was stupid when I shouted for our shares back.
''If it wasn't for ken''...etc 'he can do what he likes''
I explained that I'm not being short sighted, or having a short memory. In fact the opposite
I'm looking at our future. Yes,\ I was and am very grateful for Davy stepping in when he did and I won't forget that. But as I pointed out, there were other interested parties, there were other bids.
And as I said, Ken has done some excellent things - particulrly with support for Jacko in 03/4, and contimnuing the academy.
But I said, and don't take this the wrong way, but it isn't quite as simple as that. I tried to explain the stadium etc - but it was like talking to a brick wall.
I've critricsed about lack of investment, understanding of football etc but you can get that at most clubs - its life! But the share things isn't just another thing
I explained I'm not being short sighted, I advised to watch the press, look on Downatthemac and I think they understood I wasn't just having a go and being forgetful. We I asked why he did x, why he did y....got ''i'm sure its all legal''....but at least it was a thought or two!
People will have different opinions - fair enough
But the sooner more people have the facts infront of them the better.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2009 20:48:20 GMT 1
Are you suggesting that despite knowing everything Davy has done, they still think he's doing a great job and agree with him removing our shares in the stadium? That doesn't seem likely to me. Why not, I think he's done a good job over the last few years in difficult circumstances, and there was a lot of sense in removing the stadium share from the club. If he "wasn't bothered", he wouldn't have taken the action with Ritchie and Jackson. You 'kin berk. Go away.
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Apr 25, 2009 20:49:47 GMT 1
i read his progam notes today and it made me feel sick.
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Post by Dell12 on Apr 25, 2009 21:13:46 GMT 1
Indeed what he said is nothing short of a disgrace. Sat in a box in the Direct Golf lower I certainly had a go so did about 10 or so people around me. The people who were clapping were sat towards the tunnel area and did look totally shocked at the sound off boos and thief.
They clearly had no idea of what has gone on. The majority of people did nothing however i'd say, they neither clapped or booed. Quite interesting.
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Post by nsevent on Apr 25, 2009 21:29:49 GMT 1
Why not, I think he's done a good job over the last few years in difficult circumstances, and there was a lot of sense in removing the stadium share from the club. If he "wasn't bothered", he wouldn't have taken the action with Ritchie and Jackson. You 'kin berk. Go away. Why, what specifically is wrong with what I wrote??
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Post by Eric Cartmenez on Apr 25, 2009 21:55:06 GMT 1
He's a first class wanker for what he has done with the shares and like said i too am pretty sure if everyone knew the truth they wold not have been clapping!
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Post by terrier19 on Apr 25, 2009 21:55:11 GMT 1
i didnt clap as i dont think he deserves applause for stripping our club of its 2nd greatest asset( the stadium, the greatest asset being us- the fans)
I also didnt boo as i didnt want to waste my breath on that slimy scumbag, i turned my back to the pitch.
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Post by downatthepharm on Apr 25, 2009 22:11:03 GMT 1
It makes you wonder that even when Hoyle comes out and lets everyone know the truth whether they will believe it
Perhaps even Hoyle will get booed by those who think Davy can do no wrong. Some people will hate being proven wrong, so much so that they will just choose to not believe it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2009 22:15:07 GMT 1
I gave him a boo, the share issue and his inability to give us any straight answers about it, far outweigh any good he has done for our club.
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Post by downatthepharm on Apr 25, 2009 22:17:19 GMT 1
I gave him a boo, the share issue and his inability to give us any straight answers about it, far outweigh any good he has done for our club. What was the response of those around you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2009 22:22:23 GMT 1
I gave him a boo, the share issue and his inability to give us any straight answers about it, far outweigh any good he has done for our club. What was the response of those around you? There wasn't much of one really, nobody said anything to me. One guy to my right was shaking my head, but I don't know if that was because some fans were booing, or because some fans were clapping.
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Post by woodyhudds on Apr 25, 2009 22:40:29 GMT 1
I was shaking my head because I couldn't believe the fans clapping, I would have starting debating the Davy issue with them but wanted to enjoy Boothy's last game and not finish the season with an argument.
I'm really dismayed by the amount of fans that have no idea what is happening at our club. We desperately need to find a way of informing all the fans at this club of the issues surrounding the clubs shares. I am willing to offer my services in whatever way I can to get the word out.
With the Guardian article coming out and the examiner one (are they actually running anything?) this could improve things just hope it allows some cogs to start turning because currently I do feel the situation is somewhat helpless.
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Post by Dell12 on Apr 25, 2009 23:58:54 GMT 1
I agree, but remember (I think mids made the point) when the Club was on it's knees on in 2003 only 1200 people jointed the supporters trust.
There seems to be a great degree of apathy, or maybe people simply don't care as long at they can come down and watch a game each week. They need to realise if Davy gets away with this we won't have a football club to watch.
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Post by specialun on Apr 26, 2009 0:47:43 GMT 1
What was the response of those around you? There wasn't much of one really, nobody said anything to me. One guy to my right was shaking my head, but I don't know if that was because some fans were booing, or because some fans were clapping. Wehn I shouted give us the shares back, mots fans seemed bemused and thought I'd lost the plot - thats the problem, most don't understand.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Apr 26, 2009 2:12:16 GMT 1
To be honest I've always shook my own head in disbelief reading some of the statements on here concerning how "we all know Davy has robbed us". Most posters on here seem to believe everyone is with them and agrees with them.
Maybe a good thing that has come from today is making those who campaign for our stadium shares back realise just how much of a minority they are in. The vast majority of town fans have no idea at all about the whole stadium issue. I say this not as a criticism of people who devote time and energy to rectify the situation but as a wake up call, people just don't know what is going on.
I hope the efforts going on at the moment by many to clarify our position work by I can't see how an article in the Guardian will change much, a paper that barely any town fans will read. True it's better than doing nothing and we have to give it our all for the good of the club.
The best way to attack this will be via the council in my opinion.
In other towns that have had problems with their local football team (I'm thinking Brentford and Brighton) they have managed to elect councillors who have stood on a one issue mandate, i.e. to sort out the local football club. Surprised this hasn't been suggested by anyone on here previously.
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Post by bro600 on Apr 26, 2009 7:29:57 GMT 1
I for one have known all along "what a minority i'm in" Footballs an entertainment at the end of the day and out of the 14,000+ there yesterday i expect a great majority come out to enjoy the football, get pissed up and have a laugh! That's the way it should be... Unfortunately thats what lowlife businessmen thrive on. Thats why footballs going to the dogs and football clubs will soon be going out of business a lot faster than they have in the past. I realize for my part what i'm doing is futile but then again i played football for 40 years and my mum and Gran couldn't understand why i chased that bag of wind around either. ;D
Thanx for the support
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Apr 26, 2009 8:15:52 GMT 1
To be honest I've always shook my own head in disbelief reading some of the statements on here concerning how "we all know Davy has robbed us". Most posters on here seem to believe everyone is with them and agrees with them. Maybe a good thing that has come from today is making those who campaign for our stadium shares back realise just how much of a minority they are in. The vast majority of town fans have no idea at all about the whole stadium issue. I say this not as a criticism of people who devote time and energy to rectify the situation but as a wake up call, people just don't know what is going on. I hope the efforts going on at the moment by many to clarify our position work by I can't see how an article in the Guardian will change much, a paper that barely any town fans will read. True it's better than doing nothing and we have to give it our all for the good of the club. The best way to attack this will be via the council in my opinion. In other towns that have had problems with their local football team (I'm thinking Brentford and Brighton) they have managed to elect councillors who have stood on a one issue mandate, i.e. to sort out the local football club. Surprised this hasn't been suggested by anyone on here previously. i agree with this but maybe more of us need to be louder with them to help get this message out. it is going to need a good stunt to make people make up i think but what? as for tackling this it has to be through the council that has to be the best way. but also have top be direct a davy too.
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Post by far on Apr 26, 2009 8:49:17 GMT 1
i booed and swore and give him loadsa shite ...people round me said why and i told them ...they understood and gave a little shout themselves ..my mate pissed me off the most tho he knows all about the shares and he clapped him
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Post by sowerbyterrier on Apr 26, 2009 9:29:20 GMT 1
Remember there will have been a couple of thousand Giants fans in there (who watch both teams etc) and they would clap and cheer him all day. KD will still retain a 30% stake in our club even after the takeover!!! More importantly he will still have the income streams from our rent/mechandise thru KDSL which should be ours!!!
SO WE MUST SPREAD THE WORD AND FIGHT FOR OUR SHARES BACK!!!!
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Post by dugnet on Apr 26, 2009 9:35:00 GMT 1
I actually thought the reaction to KD was muted at best with a clear amount of discontent. I stood with my back to the pitch but I am afraid when I heard the "speech" I felt absolutely sick.
KD seems to hang on the "saving the club" angle..."if it wasn't for him" etc....
It is clear there are many who do not understand the implications of the stadium shares being removed from HTAFC. I hope that the press makes this clear otherwise we will all find out "the hard way" in years to come.
Time will tell how this ends but I am a great believer in life that what goes round comes round. This will come back to bite KD at some point.
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