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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 26, 2014 21:36:13 GMT 1
I'd rather have supporters say it as it is. If we were shit we were shit. Much rather have the truth than taking the word of Robins dressing up a poor performance, you're just conning yourself for a big fall that way. But the performance is never the primary objective in a preseason friendly. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 26, 2014 21:38:10 GMT 1
I'd rather have supporters say it as it is. If we were shit we were shit. Much rather have the truth than taking the word of Robins dressing up a poor performance, you're just conning yourself for a big fall that way. But the performance is never the primary objective in a preseason friendly. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards You have an answer(excuse) for everything.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 26, 2014 21:44:23 GMT 1
My mistake then I always thought that preseason friendlies were for sharpening fitness. But thats only an excuse because a poor preseason performance must mean instant relegation. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 21:45:44 GMT 1
Winning is a habit and a good one to have
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Post by King Curtis on Jul 26, 2014 21:46:17 GMT 1
Jesus wept... there are some fucking drama queens on here!!!
PRE SEASON FRIENDLY
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 26, 2014 21:46:33 GMT 1
Scunthorpe had more in their legs than us.. they scored and we didn't..
we didn't really want to win many games after Christmas and I expect that to continue, whatever Robins brings to the club it isn't desire and with no real cash to spend this summer and possibly for the next season or two that's an imperative...
we have some good players individually but not a team.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 26, 2014 21:47:37 GMT 1
My mistake then I always thought that preseason friendlies were for sharpening fitness. But thats only an excuse because a poor preseason performance must mean instant relegation. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards I agree, but you expect a decent semblance of some kind of coherent pattern of play and form to be developed, today it sounds like we are a million miles away from that. Although from what I've read, today's performance has done little to dispel my suspicions for the forthcoming season.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 26, 2014 21:48:13 GMT 1
Wonder if hull and Brighton fans are similarly doom and gloom this evening?! It's a pre season fitness exercise - no more no less. FFS can folks just at least give the manager 6/8 games at the start of the season to show he deserves the job longer term........the current squad is more than capable of mid table when fit and well.........the manager has to make sure they are and that they don't switch off again after Xmas likes last season. If he does then great, if not he will be gone pronto. The lack of transfer activity is frustrating.....but no point bringing in squad men. We need better than what we have and either they are too expensive, or not available for a week or two whilst prem teams sort out their 25 men squads. Patience patience patience.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 26, 2014 21:49:17 GMT 1
jesus wept, that's the second season running where we have gone 12 games without a win, there are some drama queens wearing blue and white stripes being supported by some people who don't appear to give a shit if we win or lose.. probably couldn't have cared less at Wembley, just a good day out drinking too much and being a bit of an arse..
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 26, 2014 21:49:35 GMT 1
Jesus wept... there are some fucking drama queens on here!!! PRE SEASON FRIENDLY I don't recall reading a totally OTT posts on here regarding today's game, just some reasonable opinions. Or do you mean they are drama queens because it doesn't concur with your opinion?
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Post by AndySk on Jul 26, 2014 21:52:38 GMT 1
I still find it odd how people are looking to turn their back on Town now. I'm not suggesting things are brilliant or questioning their right to do what they want, but why now? Things have been far worse on and off the field for the vast majority of at least the last 30 odd years. Could here and presumably Twitter be contributing this, as people are worn down by the incessant negativity? In the past it would be a quick conversation after the game and we'd move on, not debating it for the remainder of the week and picking holes in every interview, etc. NB- I realise if Town played well, we wouldn't see the same level of negativity, most people are pretty reasonable! Aye i don't get it. The majority of lg1 days were horrendous. With all the money knocking about in football now it seems to have created a new breed of fan that neeeeeds success now! Too many cant deal with losses like an adult. The same can be said for all teams however. The majority will still follow us whatever tho.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 26, 2014 21:53:53 GMT 1
shawsie..
Scunthorpe framed, why couldn't/didn't we???
we will soon be running through the usual football speak excuses for a bad start, a poor middle and a shite end to another season before we know it.
nobody got 'it in their legs' today. nobody did well or built any confidence , nobody is sure who and where anyone will start in a couple of weeks so it was a total waste of frigging time for us.
professional football team should care about winning football matches, professional coaches and management should be just about sorted by now. neither appears to be anywhere near.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 26, 2014 21:57:09 GMT 1
Art, If thats the case then why weren't you very optimistic about our chances given our preseason so far which was excellent until today.
This may not be the case for you but I am of the opinion that many on here just wait for anything negative (result, injury news or other club's transfer dealings) to give them an opportunity to whinge and moan about Robins or the club in general.
I honestly believe that Robins will never win over many fans on here even if he repeats a Dyche type turnaround of the clubs fortunes.
And that is my worry this season that the negativity towards him will be the main focus for many this season and that can't be healthy for the club.
So much for the new season, new backroom staff, clean slate. When it doesn't even last until August.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 26, 2014 22:03:04 GMT 1
Usual DATM meltdown after a pre-season friendly defeat..
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 26, 2014 22:06:44 GMT 1
Doomed
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Post by AndySk on Jul 26, 2014 22:07:54 GMT 1
How have our friendlies gone this season? (won 4 lost 1?) genuine question as I've missed a few i think
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 26, 2014 22:09:09 GMT 1
DATM all time low when 1-0 away loss to newly promoted side in friendly has all the 'we are all doomed' brigade out in droves. It just takes one post and it's like a hand grenade going off. God help us if we lose the first game of the season. Get a grip. . What should worry most fans is the fact 10 players that started today where learning Robins systems 12 months ago and still appear to have a problem getting it right! No one is going over board just because we lost today, it is more the fact we still have the same failings as we had 12 months ago with a squad that in many fans opinion is weaker than this time last year. Yes it is only ore season, but if this trend continues into the real thing then we could be in big trouble especially if we get a few key players injured. DATM has been relatively calm over the summer except for the normal moaning about lack of signings and the first poor game of the friendlies, and they are for sorting out who starts when the season begins so it may not be all the players on show today. A very hot day and a below par performance but it brings out all the doom and gloomers. It still surprises me how quickly the moaners pop up on here, though after all the years of following DATM I don't know why it should. Lets get a few games in and see how we are shaping up. If it looks the same as the second half of last season I do not think Dean Hoyle will leave it that way. I want to see how the changes in coaching structure influence our play, and who is going to be a regular starter, and one poor friendly is not going to show that.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 26, 2014 22:11:22 GMT 1
Art, If thats the case then why weren't you very optimistic about our chances given our preseason so far which was excellent until today. This may not be the case for you but I am of the opinion that many on here just wait for anything negative (result, injury news or other club's transfer dealings) to give them an opportunity to whinge and moan about Robins or the club in general. I honestly believe that Robins will never win over many fans on here even if he repeats a Dyche type turnaround of the clubs fortunes. And that is my worry this season that the negativity towards him will be the main focus for many this season and that can't be healthy for the club. So much for the new season, new backroom staff, clean slate. When it doesn't even last until August. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Yeah we had a decent result against Donny but the game against the Portuguese minnows, nothing can be read into that. I think what is causing the malaise and the perceived negativity is that nothing appears to have changed, squad wise, since last season. The change of the coaching staff is a moot point for me. If we have a poor season again are we going to give them the boot and get some new ones in? In my opinion, they are trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes with that one, seems a ridiculous decision.
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Post by Norn Iron Terrier on Jul 26, 2014 22:11:55 GMT 1
Perfect pre season match for the fans, do crap and lose then that increases the money available for a few new exciting signings to lead us to promotion! UTT and UMRTMM (Up Mark Robins The Master Mind)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 22:14:43 GMT 1
Art, If thats the case then why weren't you very optimistic about our chances given our preseason so far which was excellent until today. This may not be the case for you but I am of the opinion that many on here just wait for anything negative (result, injury news or other club's transfer dealings) to give them an opportunity to whinge and moan about Robins or the club in general. I honestly believe that Robins will never win over many fans on here even if he repeats a Dyche type turnaround of the clubs fortunes. And that is my worry this season that the negativity towards him will be the main focus for many this season and that can't be healthy for the club. So much for the new season, new backroom staff, clean slate. When it doesn't even last until August. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Yeah we had a decent result against Donny but the game against the Portuguese minnows, nothing can be read into that. I think what is causing the malaise and the perceived negativity is that nothing appears to have changed, squad wise, since last season. The change of the coaching staff is a moot point for me. If we have a poor season again are we going to give them the boot and get some new ones in? In my opinion, they are trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes with that one, seems a ridiculous decision. Weren't we 1-0 down against Donny until they took their better players off?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 22:15:40 GMT 1
My mistake then I always thought that preseason friendlies were for sharpening fitness. But thats only an excuse because a poor preseason performance must mean instant relegation. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards So I take it Scunthorpe don't use pre season for sharpening fitness? Like it or not we lost to Scunthorpe today. 2 teams played in intense heat, 2 teams were "sharpening up" and 2 teams were on that field... One was a division below the other. We were dog shit end of. Get your rose tints off and see a game for what it is. Another game where wells has failed to score and a game where the opposition steps up a level and we show fuck all in front of goal
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 26, 2014 22:18:38 GMT 1
Art, If thats the case then why weren't you very optimistic about our chances given our preseason so far which was excellent until today. This may not be the case for you but I am of the opinion that many on here just wait for anything negative (result, injury news or other club's transfer dealings) to give them an opportunity to whinge and moan about Robins or the club in general. I honestly believe that Robins will never win over many fans on here even if he repeats a Dyche type turnaround of the clubs fortunes. And that is my worry this season that the negativity towards him will be the main focus for many this season and that can't be healthy for the club. So much for the new season, new backroom staff, clean slate. When it doesn't even last until August. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Yeah we had a decent result against Donny but the game against the Portuguese minnows, nothing can be read into that. I think what is causing the malaise and the perceived negativity is that nothing appears to have changed, squad wise, since last season. The change of the coaching staff is a moot point for me. If we have a poor season again are we going to give them the boot and get some new ones in? In my opinion, they are trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes with that one, seems a ridiculous decision. That is how you always are. There does not have to be a reason, your glass is always half empty. I have no idea how good/bad/indifferent our season will be from the friendly results but I will wait and see rather than assuming we will be in relegation scrap on the basis of one friendly match.
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Post by Armchair Pundit on Jul 26, 2014 22:22:38 GMT 1
Anyone remember when Newcastle lost 7-1 in pre season then won the league?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 22:25:50 GMT 1
Anyone remember when Newcastle lost 7-1 in pre season then won the league? Are we going to win the league?
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 26, 2014 22:28:32 GMT 1
Anyone remember when Newcastle lost 7-1 in pre season then won the league? Are we going to win the league? Yes, of course we are. Silly question
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Post by shawsie on Jul 26, 2014 22:29:47 GMT 1
shawsie.. Scunthorpe framed, why couldn't/didn't we??? we will soon be running through the usual football speak excuses for a bad start, a poor middle and a shite end to another season before we know it. nobody got 'it in their legs' today. nobody did well or built any confidence , nobody is sure who and where anyone will start in a couple of weeks so it was a total waste of frigging time for us. professional football team should care about winning football matches, professional coaches and management should be just about sorted by now. neither appears to be anywhere near. Not at all 2400!!! A bad start and robins is toast! We have 3 more pre season games .......... Plus behind closed doors stuff..at this stage it's fitness only and I can't see the transfer activity being fully completed yet. Yes ideally we'd want it all complete and sorted by now, but this is a tough league and we are well behind some teams financially. As such we have to wait for larger teams to "do their business"! Let's await August 9th - when the big moaning can start in earnest if we don't win 3-0!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 23:14:10 GMT 1
I can't believe were going to get relegated.
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Post by terrierpark on Jul 26, 2014 23:30:42 GMT 1
I still find it odd how people are looking to turn their back on Town now. I'm not suggesting things are brilliant or questioning their right to do what they want, but why now? Things have been far worse on and off the field for the vast majority of at least the last 30 odd years. Could here and presumably Twitter be contributing this, as people are worn down by the incessant negativity? In the past it would be a quick conversation after the game and we'd move on, not debating it for the remainder of the week and picking holes in every interview, etc. NB- I realise if Town played well, we wouldn't see the same level of negativity, most people are pretty reasonable! I think its a mixture of things really, whatever way you look at it Deano as put the brakes on( yes i know ffp),but it as affected the feel good factor. We seem happy to plod along, we are about to start our third season in the Championship BUT are a million miles off keeping our better players or signing better players. The finances dictate so because Deano wants to adhere to ffp. FFP COMES FIRST THE FOOTBALL/AMBITION second. Thats a fact we all have to live with until Deano sells the club on or takes on another investor. Who would have thought that it would turn out like this when in L1 if a player got a knock we got an immediate loanee in as cover, the attitude was we are doing all we can to get promoted! In the Championship however the attitude is completely different. We gambled our future in our first season by making no effort at all to sign players in the jan window despite the 8m JR deal, and last season we all saw what the affect of sticking with a poor manager coupled with no ambition other than to stay up. We have been promised three quality signings to address the problems that were well documented last season. These have not materialised yet so is it any wonder fans are leaning towards been fed up and picking the matches etc. I would also go so far as to say that if any more star players are sold on installment deals just to keep us ticking over crowds will go down.
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Post by mykindatown on Jul 27, 2014 1:11:39 GMT 1
(or rather my mate did who doesn't post) Said we were more or less exactly the same as last season when Vaughan was out - only Wells looked as though he'd score - no-one else - midfield absolutely no forward drive or energy - and vulnerable to pace at the back. He's not one for knee-jerk reactions but said that he can't see where goals are going to come from (Lolley hit the woodwork but it was a cross) - Hamill had a chance at the end but took an extra touch - as ever - and though both teams looked weak, Scunthorpe had the better chances. He's normally a positive bloke, and I reminded him it was only a friendly, but he said we were awful. Panic on the streets of Rawthorpe
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Post by Stavros on Jul 27, 2014 2:46:48 GMT 1
I still find it odd how people are looking to turn their back on Town now. I'm not suggesting things are brilliant or questioning their right to do what they want, but why now? Things have been far worse on and off the field for the vast majority of at least the last 30 odd years. Could here and presumably Twitter be contributing this, as people are worn down by the incessant negativity? In the past it would be a quick conversation after the game and we'd move on, not debating it for the remainder of the week and picking holes in every interview, etc. NB- I realise if Town played well, we wouldn't see the same level of negativity, most people are pretty reasonable! For the record, I think your the best poster on this forum. I've thought so for some time.
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