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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 23:50:12 GMT 1
A friend of mine also thinks it's a done deal . Great signing although he suggests 800 k paid for butterfield. In a separate deal and he will be unveiled tomorrow . Clayton sold for an initial 1.5 plus add ons . Hardly having there pants down IMHO , we sold our best player for 700k in reality . If that's the case it is Clayton for Butterfield + 700k Very good deal to say he was in the last year of his contract Not really. I thought we were getting 1.5 mil and JB. Will hold my hands up IF he comes good, but too many clubs and a few injuries doesn't replace Clayts plus 700k. I don't get the big hoohah surrounding Butterfield. Not done nowt yet apart from a few you tube clips. Even Tony Carss gotta couple of 40 yarders on there. Again, I will be the 1st to hold my hands up but at this time will remain contently pessimistic.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 8, 2014 23:52:33 GMT 1
Only trouble is. You need the big characters to get on.... If not you need a captain that brings them together for the cause Players aren't selected as captain just for being a 'big character', it's to elevate the positive effect they're already having on the team. I would say having a team full of players that have been deemed appropriate for the role would only be a good thing. It may be the difference between holding on to a 1-0 lead at Elland road or losing 5-1. Not to mention the effect Coady will have on the u18's with his pedegree. If I was Bryan Glover (head of Academy Recruitment) I'd have Coady meeting all potential newcomers. I know it's not the same bloke, but I can't help but picture the bloke who played Mr. Sugden in Kes.
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Post by thomo on Aug 9, 2014 6:20:44 GMT 1
It seems Robins really really wants this bloke to come. At first I thought he was just a make weight in the deal but if the 700k rumour is correct, that's serious money for us. Sounds a similar player to Clayton to me - just in Boro's opinion he's not as good as clayts.
Like others have said, would rather be splashing the cash on a striker or CB
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 9, 2014 6:55:29 GMT 1
It seems Robins really really wants this bloke to come. At first I thought he was just a make weight in the deal but if the 700k rumour is correct, that's serious money for us. Sounds a similar player to Clayton to me - just in Boro's opinion he's not as good as clayts. Like others have said, would rather be splashing the cash on a striker or CB I agree but get the middle of the park right and we control games, meaning there's less pressure on the defence. Also we'll be getting st ledger or someone else - wouldn't be surprised if st ledger is our fall back option, otherwise surely we'd have signed him by now. Think the striker is critical though, get the right person in there and we could be looking at a top half finish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 6:56:22 GMT 1
is there any deffo news or is this going to be half time overload today?
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 9, 2014 7:16:45 GMT 1
It seems Robins really really wants this bloke to come. At first I thought he was just a make weight in the deal but if the 700k rumour is correct, that's serious money for us. Sounds a similar player to Clayton to me - just in Boro's opinion he's not as good as clayts. Like others have said, would rather be splashing the cash on a striker or CB Theres still 400k or so left over for a striker. Boro fans will say they have the better player but by bringing in coady and butterfield we look so much better balanced in midfield. Our back up midfielders are now Norwood and Hogg compared to last year where it was Southern and Gobern. Great business.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 8:28:51 GMT 1
It seems Robins really really wants this bloke to come. At first I thought he was just a make weight in the deal but if the 700k rumour is correct, that's serious money for us. Sounds a similar player to Clayton to me - just in Boro's opinion he's not as good as clayts. Like others have said, would rather be splashing the cash on a striker or CB Theres still 400k or so left over for a striker. Boro fans will say they have the better player but by bringing in coady and butterfield we look so much better balanced in midfield. Our back up midfielders are now Norwood and Hogg compared to last year where it was Southern and Gobern. Great business. Plus looking at the bigger picture, we'll sell Coady for £2m+ in 3 years time, Billing / Tronstad will replace Norwood and Gobern next summer, we'll sign Rajewski on a freebie, and spend £1m on a striker, get a replacement for Coady for less than £500k, and still be quids in.
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Post by TownFanSam on Aug 9, 2014 8:30:04 GMT 1
Theres still 400k or so left over for a striker. Boro fans will say they have the better player but by bringing in coady and butterfield we look so much better balanced in midfield. Our back up midfielders are now Norwood and Hogg compared to last year where it was Southern and Gobern. Great business. Plus looking at the bigger picture, we'll sell Coady for £2m+ in 3 years time, Billing / Tronstad will replace Rajewski next summer, we'll spend £1m on a striker, get a replacement for Coady for less than £500k, and still be quids in. Can you tell me lottery numbers for tonight?
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 9, 2014 8:31:25 GMT 1
is there any deffo news or is this going to be half time overload today? It's all looking more or less done but talking early next week, Neither player will be involved here or at borough today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 8:43:32 GMT 1
Surely they will be announced to the fans at the game today. Don't see any other reason to still keep it quiet. Hopefully they have kept a quality striker and central defender quiet as well.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 9, 2014 8:46:44 GMT 1
Think you're confusing captains with maverick flair players I've never heard a manager - in any sport - bemoaning having too many leaders in the dressing room No I am not pal. You obviously haven't played sport at semi professional or professional level. Just like at work you need direction from a director (MR) and a manager (LP) if everyone is chipping in, you need to be an extremely good man manager to make it work. Not necessarily a leader. Clearly you need to be very closely micro managed in your working life I manage my department by empowering my team, encouraging decision making and welcoming diverse opinions. I would rather work in a collaborative than dictative environment. My boss gives me similar autonomy I have ultimate say for all decisions and responsibility for what happens but listen to others whose opinions I respect. I am not scared of strong opinions and not too stubborn to accept someone else may have a better idea. Only a weak leader would be! Still see no issue with having lots of leaders
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 9, 2014 8:50:42 GMT 1
I thought Southern was meant to be a bit of a know-it-all... As in we're likely to see him in the next series of The Chase, or is he just a clever dick? Didn't he come out with some line about there's nothing he can learn from Robins and playing at Town.
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Post by Colt Seavers on Aug 9, 2014 8:52:44 GMT 1
It seems Robins really really wants this bloke to come. At first I thought he was just a make weight in the deal but if the 700k rumour is correct, that's serious money for us. Sounds a similar player to Clayton to me - just in Boro's opinion he's not as good as clayts. Like others have said, would rather be splashing the cash on a striker or CB Theres still 400k or so left over for a striker. Boro fans will say they have the better player but by bringing in coady and butterfield we look so much better balanced in midfield. Our back up midfielders are now Norwood and Hogg compared to last year where it was Southern and Gobern. Great business. Don't get over excited with Coady yet, i see him being down the pecking order behind , Norwood and Hogg.
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Post by stinkypete on Aug 9, 2014 8:53:18 GMT 1
No I am not pal. You obviously haven't played sport at semi professional or professional level. Just like at work you need direction from a director (MR) and a manager (LP) if everyone is chipping in, you need to be an extremely good man manager to make it work. Not necessarily a leader. Clearly you need to be very closely micro managed in your working life I manage my department by empowering my team, encouraging decision making and welcoming diverse opinions. I would rather work in a collaborative than dictative environment. My boss gives me similar autonomy I have ultimate say for a decision and responsibility to what happens but listen to others whose opinions I respect. I am not scared of strong opinions and not too stubborn to accept someone else may have a better idea. Only a weak leader would be! Alright David Brent!! Are you also just a "chilled out entertainer" ??
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Post by grist on Aug 9, 2014 8:57:37 GMT 1
No I am not pal. You obviously haven't played sport at semi professional or professional level. Just like at work you need direction from a director (MR) and a manager (LP) if everyone is chipping in, you need to be an extremely good man manager to make it work. Not necessarily a leader. Clearly you need to be very closely micro managed in your working life I manage my department by empowering my team, encouraging decision making and welcoming diverse opinions. I would rather work in a collaborative than dictative environment. My boss gives me similar autonomy I have ultimate say for all decisions and responsibility for what happens but listen to others whose opinions I respect. I am not scared of strong opinions and not too stubborn to accept someone else may have a better idea. Only a weak leader would be! Still see no issue with having lots of leaders I can't help but say that you have a very high opinion of yourself and this is not the place for self aggrandisement
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Post by togterrier on Aug 9, 2014 9:08:57 GMT 1
As in we're likely to see him in the next series of The Chase, or is he just a clever dick? Didn't he come out with some line about there's nothing he can learn from Robins and playing at Town. At the Canalside QnA to which you're referring, Keef was very honest and spoke his mind, without being unnecessarily critical of anybody/thing. He was good value for the hour he was there. He said that at the stage of his football career he was at, there was probably nothing new he could come across oIn a training session because he's pretty much seen it all. He didn't come across as anything other than a frustrated footballer who wanted more match time, but realised in all probability his days in a Town shirts were numbered. Seemed a decent fellow IMO.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 9, 2014 9:11:28 GMT 1
Question..... Is aggrandisement. An angry. Sales. Person ?
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Post by Senator Clay Davis on Aug 9, 2014 9:14:25 GMT 1
No I am not pal. You obviously haven't played sport at semi professional or professional level. Just like at work you need direction from a director (MR) and a manager (LP) if everyone is chipping in, you need to be an extremely good man manager to make it work. Not necessarily a leader. Clearly you need to be very closely micro managed in your working life I manage my department by empowering my team, encouraging decision making and welcoming diverse opinions. I would rather work in a collaborative than dictative environment. My boss gives me similar autonomy I have ultimate say for all decisions and responsibility for what happens but listen to others whose opinions I respect. I am not scared of strong opinions and not too stubborn to accept someone else may have a better idea. Only a weak leader would be! Still see no issue with having lots of leaders Most I've cringed in a while.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 9, 2014 9:20:54 GMT 1
Why do we need another midfielder after signing Majewski and Coady, besides, is this guy that great? He's 24 and made less than 150 senior appearances.
If this deal comes off and Clayton goes the other way can someone just put a thread up with confirmation. All these pages and threads on it, I just can't be arsed to trawl through em all, I'll never get the time back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 9:23:12 GMT 1
Why do we need another midfielder after signing Majewski and Coady, besides, is this guy that great? He's 24 and made less than 150 senior appearances. If this deal comes off and Clayton goes the other way can someone just put a thread up with confirmation. All these pages and threads on it, I just can't be arsed to trawl through em all, I'll never get the time back. CHEER UP MAVIS!!!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 9, 2014 9:25:58 GMT 1
Why do we need another midfielder after signing Majewski and Coady, besides, is this guy that great? He's 24 and made less than 150 senior appearances. If this deal comes off and Clayton goes the other way can someone just put a thread up with confirmation. All these pages and threads on it, I just can't be arsed to trawl through em all, I'll never get the time back. CHEER UP MAVIS!!! I am cheered up, the sun id shining and it's the kick off of the football season today....so I'm chipper. That might change come 5pm though!!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 9, 2014 9:28:24 GMT 1
get in with superlopez and his team, they will show strong leadership and give strong opinion for you, so you don't need to read any of the other posts..
other than that, just read the last one and hope it has something relevant to what you are looking for..
glad to be of assistance...
its Saturday and the season is here..plenty of cloud cover for the NSL with no rain forecast..happy days..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 9:31:50 GMT 1
No I am not pal. You obviously haven't played sport at semi professional or professional level. Just like at work you need direction from a director (MR) and a manager (LP) if everyone is chipping in, you need to be an extremely good man manager to make it work. Not necessarily a leader. Clearly you need to be very closely micro managed in your working life I manage my department by empowering my team, encouraging decision making and welcoming diverse opinions. I would rather work in a collaborative than dictative environment. My boss gives me similar autonomy I have ultimate say for all decisions and responsibility for what happens but listen to others whose opinions I respect. I am not scared of strong opinions and not too stubborn to accept someone else may have a better idea. Only a weak leader would be! Still see no issue with having lots of leaders funniest/cringe worthy thing I have ever read on datm ever. I hope you are been tongue in cheek, if not you sound like the boss who thinks he's the dogs bollocks and everyone else just thinks is a cock. Give your head a shake. I didn't ask for a job application. Although if someone wrote that bollox applying for a job in my company I'd chuck it straight in the bin.
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Post by patfield on Aug 9, 2014 9:36:07 GMT 1
No I am not pal. You obviously haven't played sport at semi professional or professional level. Just like at work you need direction from a director (MR) and a manager (LP) if everyone is chipping in, you need to be an extremely good man manager to make it work. Not necessarily a leader. Clearly you need to be very closely micro managed in your working life I manage my department by empowering my team, encouraging decision making and welcoming diverse opinions. I would rather work in a collaborative than dictative environment. My boss gives me similar autonomy I have ultimate say for all decisions and responsibility for what happens but listen to others whose opinions I respect. I am not scared of strong opinions and not too stubborn to accept someone else may have a better idea. Only a weak leader would be! Still see no issue with having lots of leaders Seriously? What a strange post to be putting on a football forum. I come on here to get away from listening to all that management babble at work. Micro managed, empowering my team, next it will be thinking outside the box and all that nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 9:37:06 GMT 1
Clearly you need to be very closely micro managed in your working life I manage my department by empowering my team, encouraging decision making and welcoming diverse opinions. I would rather work in a collaborative than dictative environment. My boss gives me similar autonomy I have ultimate say for all decisions and responsibility for what happens but listen to others whose opinions I respect. I am not scared of strong opinions and not too stubborn to accept someone else may have a better idea. Only a weak leader would be! Still see no issue with having lots of leaders funniest/cringe worthy thing I have ever read on datm ever. I hope you are been tongue in cheek, if not you sound like the boss who thinks he's the dogs bollocks and everyone else just thinks is a cock. Give your head a shake. I didn't ask for a job application. Although if someone wrote that bollox applying for a job in my company I'd chuck it straight in the bin.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 9:39:17 GMT 1
funniest/cringe worthy thing I have ever read on datm ever. I hope you are been tongue in cheek, if not you sound like the boss who thinks he's the dogs bollocks and everyone else just thinks moaner30 is a cock. Give your head a shake. I didn't ask for a job application. Although if someone wrote that bollox applying for a job in my company I'd chuck it straight in the bin. edited for accuracy.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 9, 2014 9:42:38 GMT 1
Well clearly I've not explained myself and come across wrong. If I sound an arse then clearly that's not my intention. I've clearly had a 'mare so deserve a bit of stick!
Point I was making in my experience - and that's all I can draw on - is you don't need to micromanage and in fact it's healthy to have diverse opinions and ambitious, strong characters who are not confident enough to voice them
Most international teams have 4/5 club captains, and that's the pinnacle of football. It isn't a problem IMO to have a dressing room full of leaders
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 9, 2014 9:44:16 GMT 1
lots of 'leaders'..??
too many chiefs and not enough Indians, sort of like the footballing equivalent of the Civil Service, thatll get the job done then..
If it fails then we will have a brainstorming session whilst it goes to shite around us..?
this is football, its 90 minutes and you need someone to grip it when its required, ie; in real time.
11 leaders all pointing at each other is what you will get mostly..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 9:45:19 GMT 1
Well clearly I've not explained myself and come across wrong. If I sound an arse then clearly that's not my intention. I've clear had a 'mare so deserve a bit of stick! Point I was making in my experience - and that's all I can draw on - is you don't need to micromanage and in fact it's healthy to have diverse opinions and ambitious, strong characters who are not confident enough to voice them Most international teams have 4/5 club captains, and that's the pinnacle of football. It isn't a problem IMO to have a dressing room full of leaders Ha, get to screwfix for a spade if your going to keep digging.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 9:45:44 GMT 1
I am cheered up, the sun id shining and it's the kick off of the football season today....so I'm chipper. That might change come 5pm though!! I want to see you in the NSL today you Robins lover. Don't let me down!
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