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Post by space hardware on Mar 10, 2015 23:13:29 GMT 1
The Shoe army lot, led by More Gut Than Waist used to slag off the Cowshed Loyal in the same manner as well. Me thinks, they want to be the only ones in the stadium to sing songs... They should venture over and join in next season, they might even enjoy it. What is this shoe thing? Heard it mentioned on here before but never seen it in action.
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Post by Cole on Mar 10, 2015 23:17:04 GMT 1
The OP is just being sardonic, as he well knows. or she. That's a clue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 23:18:12 GMT 1
Kinell Cowshed's an admin? We've no chance of gettin owt merged now have we... Ha. I got merged yesterday! At least admin is consistent!
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Post by deo1 on Mar 10, 2015 23:22:09 GMT 1
The Shoe army lot, led by More Gut Than Waist used to slag off the Cowshed Loyal in the same manner as well. Me thinks, they want to be the only ones in the stadium to sing songs... They should venture over and join in next season, they might even enjoy it. What is this shoe thing? Heard it mentioned on here before but never seen it in action. Think it's to do with some fans taking off their trainers and singing "shoes off if you love the town" a few fans of different clubs have done it too. Not for me though, they even done it when it's pissing it down and stood in the puddles soaking their socks. Each to their own I say.
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Post by space hardware on Mar 10, 2015 23:24:55 GMT 1
What is this shoe thing? Heard it mentioned on here before but never seen it in action. Think it's to do with some fans taking off their trainers and singing "shoes off if you love the town" a few fans of different clubs have done it too. Not for me though, they even done it when it's pissing it down and stood in the puddles soaking their socks. Each to their own I say. Indeed. Whatever floats their collective boat.
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Post by Sio on Mar 10, 2015 23:25:30 GMT 1
The Shoe army lot, led by More Gut Than Waist used to slag off the Cowshed Loyal in the same manner as well. Me thinks, they want to be the only ones in the stadium to sing songs... They should venture over and join in next season, they might even enjoy it. Coincidentally he used to slag off anyone who went in the south stand those few years back as well You're totally right, it's simply a matter of wanting to be the main group. Childish behaviour of course, but knowing some of them it isn't surprising..
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Post by orinoco on Mar 10, 2015 23:41:22 GMT 1
i remember song!! in 79 after a town game in the cowshed and getting slapped by dad whilst replaying game on subbuteo pitch!!! and singing the songs of the day!!
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Post by softboy on Mar 10, 2015 23:48:45 GMT 1
Have I missed something but I understood that the Safety Certificate only allowed for away fans in the South Stand. I am sure this was confirmed by the club less than 6 months ago in response to issues r raised. I cannot see any reference to this being changed!
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Post by softboy on Mar 10, 2015 23:52:08 GMT 1
And another thing. Having read my Season Card pack one of the main reasons for juggling about seats etc is to fit in more away fans when the need arises. Like keeping town fans back (Leeds) when the need to support away fans arises. Funny how away fans come first!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 23:53:33 GMT 1
The Shoe army lot, led by More Gut Than Waist used to slag off the Cowshed Loyal in the same manner as well. Me thinks, they want to be the only ones in the stadium to sing songs... They should venture over and join in next season, they might even enjoy it. Coincidentally he used to slag off anyone who went in the south stand those few years back as well You're totally right, it's simply a matter of wanting to be the main group. Childish behaviour of course, but knowing some of them it isn't surprising.. The worst thing is the Cowshed Loyal lot went to join them and team up, yet anytime they'd start a song, the SS at the back would try and start one over the top of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 23:55:01 GMT 1
Think it's to do with some fans taking off their trainers and singing "shoes off if you love the town" a few fans of different clubs have done it too. Not for me though, they even done it when it's pissing it down and stood in the puddles soaking their socks. Each to their own I say. Indeed. Whatever floats their collective boat. As Deo said, they tend to put their shoes on their hands and chant 'Shoe Army', and 'Shoes off if you love the Town'. Wouldn't mind, but the pedant in me wanted to let them know that they were mostly wearing trainers
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 11, 2015 0:12:37 GMT 1
What? I think you'll find it's a few folk that have had a go at the NSL. It's biggest achievement this season is to secure a home, covered end behind the goal. The people who have been the driving force are top people who have spent hours and pounds trying to create an atmosphere behind the goal. Not sure what your post contributes other than contention. Did you miss a smiley face off the end of your post? I have not criticized the commitment or the character of those who have been a driving force behind the NSL this season, but they have been at loggerheads with our own fans through social media and a more diplomatic personnel would be beneficial, that is what my post contribution is, and no there is no missing smiley face. May God bless you and keep you safe
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 11, 2015 0:17:47 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention. In all the time ive read DATM ive never ever read a more ridiculous post. The minority against the NSL was a handful of haters who were either jealous of the success, don't like change or just generally unhappy that it had the clubs backing - hardly worthy of being given the name rivalry since the haters were drum beaters in the Britannia rescue who rather than spend time watching the game spent time cursing away fans.. In all the time ive been going to games (mostly as a lone female) ive never felt more accepted by a group of guys at games, more included, more looked after or had a better home match day experience sat in the FML. I wasn't one of the guys who put together the idea and being an existing season card holder in FML was unsure about renewing in there, but ive seen the hard work and passion put into the NSL by some of the nicest guys ive ever met at that ground all done in their own time. I find this original post insulting and wide off the mark. We are all town aren't we right? UTT! Wow what a post! Wonderful affirmation coming from a female who often attends games on her own. This bit made me proud of fellow Town fans I've never felt more accepted by a group of guys at games, more included, more looked after or had a better home match day experience sat in the FML.
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Post by southstandloyal on Mar 11, 2015 4:05:11 GMT 1
We are the South Stand Loyal, Singing through cheer and toil, We're Cowshed, Kilner and North, And we're one united mouth We drown 'em out wherever we roam, And now ready to outsing 'em at home, And It's thanks to Dean Hoyle, We're now the South Stand Loyal
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Post by richyhtfc on Mar 11, 2015 8:20:24 GMT 1
when i first heard about the Bradford Stadium Fire donations on radio there keped banging on about NSL and not the club and fans as a whole. This is how you split he fans up. End of the day you need to be near the away fans. all NSL has done is split the atmosphere. Nice try but on that point it failed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 8:34:19 GMT 1
when i first heard about the Bradford Stadium Fire donations on radio there keped banging on about NSL and not the club and fans as a whole. This is how you split he fans up. End of the day you need to be near the away fans. all NSL has done is split the atmosphere. Nice try but on that point it failed. Surely you could find a better stick to beat the NSL lads & lasses with than that, or maybe not? We actually proved you don't need to be near the away fans, although it'll no doubt be better (and worse) for being near to them next season. To be honest, this is a petty argument started by an obvious wum, and no doubt, when the roof comes off the south stand next season (not literally Oliver), there will be claims it will be despite what the NSL did this season. wtd's Roosevelt post summed up my thoughts exactly.
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Post by detox on Mar 11, 2015 8:40:00 GMT 1
The only 'clique' i see here are the singing section of the kilner who feel they have had their noses pushed out of joint. is this because they thought they were the 'elite' singers in the ground, and now the NSL have stolen their thunder ? is this what the argument is about, really ?
In an ideal scenario we would have 'singing sections' in every part of every stand...upper and lower tiers... Surely every real Town fan, with the club at heart, would want to see that ? I've seen many grounds where vocal fans are split around the stadium and they complement each other with "we are the right side/we are the left side" type songs... Isn't this the kind of thing we want, a vocal/noisy/intimidating stadium where visiting players think..." Oh no,not Huddersfield again...." ?
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Post by captainblack on Mar 11, 2015 9:01:20 GMT 1
when i first heard about the Bradford Stadium Fire donations on radio there keped banging on about NSL and not the club and fans as a whole. This is how you split he fans up. End of the day you need to be near the away fans. all NSL has done is split the atmosphere. Nice try but on that point it failed. I really do not think the atmosphere has been split at all . In fact having noise coming from the NSL and the Kilner bank should theoretically add to the atmosphere if anything . In many grounds the home support is often at the opposite end to the away support and honestly does it matter. I think there is scope for both supporters in the FML and the kilner bank and to be honest cannot understand all the fuss about the NSL .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 9:05:09 GMT 1
when i first heard about the Bradford Stadium Fire donations on radio there keped banging on about NSL and not the club and fans as a whole. This is how you split he fans up. End of the day you need to be near the away fans. all NSL has done is split the atmosphere. Nice try but on that point it failed. Ridiculous post.
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Post by Barbieterrier on Mar 11, 2015 9:49:53 GMT 1
In all the time ive read DATM ive never ever read a more ridiculous post. The minority against the NSL was a handful of haters who were either jealous of the success, don't like change or just generally unhappy that it had the clubs backing - hardly worthy of being given the name rivalry since the haters were drum beaters in the Britannia rescue who rather than spend time watching the game spent time cursing away fans.. In all the time ive been going to games (mostly as a lone female) ive never felt more accepted by a group of guys at games, more included, more looked after or had a better home match day experience sat in the FML. I wasn't one of the guys who put together the idea and being an existing season card holder in FML was unsure about renewing in there, but ive seen the hard work and passion put into the NSL by some of the nicest guys ive ever met at that ground all done in their own time. I find this original post insulting and wide off the mark. We are all town aren't we right? UTT! Wow what a post! Wonderful affirmation coming from a female who often attends games on her own. This bit made me proud of fellow Town fans I've never felt more accepted by a group of guys at games, more included, more looked after or had a better home match day experience sat in the FML. It's all true. If I put into words the 'hassle' I have recieved match days either in the ground, outside or on travel for just going to football it would be a mega thread. There are some genuinely nice guys in the NSL that I have met for the first time this season. *plus I really like Ben
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Mar 11, 2015 10:28:26 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. I stopped reading at that point. You assume what you like, the rest of us will make up our own minds. For what it's worth I don't think it's been a roaring success, but I've enjoyed it in there and without the NSL we wouldn't have the South Stand next year.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Mar 11, 2015 10:44:00 GMT 1
Okay the main grievances/claims of the Kilner lot I identified were that a) the NSL was the 'wrong' stand, and we should have the SS b) you need to be close to the away fans to have an atmosphere and c) the NSL has fragmented support.
However by achieving the South Stand all these claims have become irrelevant. So really I don't understand why the argument is still continuing? I can only assume it's because there's an underlying bitterness towards the NSL by some in the Kilner (I say some because the anti-NSL folk on this board are not representative of the whole of that section). If this is the case, then to claim the NSL is to blame for disunity among our fans is false and somewhat hypocritical.
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Post by roberttownblue on Mar 11, 2015 18:56:37 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention. You sir, are a complete idiot
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Post by roberttownblue on Mar 11, 2015 19:51:11 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention. Take time to research the aims of the NSL, have a look at page 4 Benmsmith4 has put it perfectly. Now look back on here and on twitter and facebook at the abusive and, at times, libellous comments that have been directed at certain people involved with the NSL and see if you are of the same mind. If you are then I stand by my opinion of you.
Your post is obviously designed to widen any rift, but I'm happy to say you will fail miserably. The NSL will sing loud and proud along side any Town fan who wants to sing, but from next year it will be from the South stand. Will you sing with us?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 19:53:48 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 22:12:17 GMT 1
Take time to research the aims of the NSL, have a look at page 4 Benmsmith4 has put it perfectly. Now look back on here and on twitter and facebook at the abusive and, at times, libellous comments that have been directed at certain people involved with the NSL and see if you are of the same mind. If you are then I stand by my opinion of you.
Your post is obviously designed to widen any rift, but I'm happy to say you will fail miserably. The NSL will sing loud and proud along side any Town fan who wants to sing, but from next year it will be from the South stand. Will you sing with us?
scarf scarf scarf UTT TTID
This was precisely my point, comments have been made on social media between town fans that created a rift, so I suggested that someone else carry the torch for the NSL, so that the togetherness between our fans comes back. utt Perhaps you could reveal you're true identity and come along and get involved William. You seem keen on diplomacy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 22:12:42 GMT 1
Your point/vendetta (love the mask) was purely against the few decent lads behind the NSL, a personal crusade, after all, you rewrote the bible.
You're a heretic by name Mr Tyndale.
Solid grammar yet obviously bad spelling in parts.
Why don't you take off your mask like all of us lads who haven't tried to hide ourselves from the flack we have received?
Poor form sir, very very poor form
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 22:39:08 GMT 1
Perhaps you could reveal you're true identity and come along and get involved William. You seem keen on diplomacy. not my cup of tea #bouncearound I've got another 30 years ahead of me before I'd feel at home in there Well, you know ALL town fans are welcome, despite the protestations of a your elusive self. I'm coming in the Jungle when we have a big away following anyway, please don't mind me bouncing around at the front will you?
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Post by scoffsablue on Mar 12, 2015 0:07:39 GMT 1
Perhaps you could reveal you're true identity and come along and get involved William. You seem keen on diplomacy. not my cup of tea #bouncearound I've got another 30 years ahead of me before I'd feel at home in there I know something you don't know....Or do I?? William Tyndale...of an educated and literary background...a TEACHER of sorts....There's a primary school named after him in Islington North London....Mr Tyndale...I wonder why you choose to have a go at those that have worked tirelessly in creating an atmosphere and getting the home fans into the South Stand?...and not the actual principle of the NSL?.....Why are you so bitter i wonder??....In the 16th century William Tyndale was convicted of heresy (having an opinion that was contrary to the existing opinion or belief at that time)...William Tyndale was executed by strangulation and then burnt at the stake....Now that's history...or is it Geography?...or am i just changing the subject !!!..Check WIKI...but then you already have...haven't you !!
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 12, 2015 0:48:16 GMT 1
Your point/vendetta (love the mask) was purely against the few decent lads behind the NSL, a personal crusade, after all, you rewrote the bible. You're a heretic by name Mr Tyndale. Solid grammar yet obviously bad spelling in parts. Why don't you take off your mask like all of us lads who haven't tried to hide ourselves from the flack we have received? Poor form sir, very very poor form I'm impressed. Some of those lads bouncing around know their stuff
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