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Post by roberttownblue on Mar 12, 2015 10:56:39 GMT 1
I know something you don't know....Or do I?? William Tyndale...of an educated and literary background...a TEACHER of sorts....There's a primary school named after him in Islington North London....Mr Tyndale...I wonder why you choose to have a go at those that have worked tirelessly in creating an atmosphere and getting the home fans into the South Stand?...and not the actual principle of the NSL?.....Why are you so bitter i wonder??....In the 16th century William Tyndale was convicted of heresy (having an opinion that was contrary to the existing opinion or belief at that time)...William Tyndale was executed by strangulation and then burnt at the stake....Now that's history...or is it Geography?...or am i just changing the subject !!!..Check WIKI...but then you already have...haven't you !! you are behaving like Thomas More Surely in this case that's a good thing seeing as we all support the same team.
Incidentally, my Utopia would be a south stand packed with Town fans that don't bicker like petulant kids but get behind their team week in week out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 20:04:34 GMT 1
I'm genuinely gutted that Mr William Tyndale would turn out to be such a two face. True colours and all that. Hope this is the last we hear from him, ever.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:04:02 GMT 1
I'm genuinely gutted that Mr William Tyndale would turn out to be such a two face. True colours and all that. Hope this is the last we hear from him, ever. it is good to be Anonymous Nobody is anonymous on the Internet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 22:07:09 GMT 1
I want to like that post but I hate you.
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Post by southstandloyal on Mar 14, 2015 2:33:20 GMT 1
I agree that some serious consideration needs to go into the naming of the organised support in the South Stand.
I think that the season in the North Stand as the NSL is something to be proud of and is something of a defining moment in the history of Town's support. The people involved were a huge force of persuasion in the allocation of South Stand as a home end.
However, this is a new chapter in our clubs supporter history. Renaming as the SSL allows anybody who hasn't been part of the NSL to be part of the current and future support within the SS without feeling like its a group that they didn't join and integrate into when it really was the NSL. If the NSL name continues as the group behind then organised support within the SS then I think it potentially ostracises fans without them giving it a chance.
Think about it.....if you join the NSL as part of the support in the South Stand next season having never been in the FML this season, are you going to feel like you can be a real part of the NSL?
All I'm saying is that there needs to be a name given to the South Stand *group* that is all inclusive and allows anyone to feel like they belong wholeheartedly in the group. I get it that after one game the hospitality shown will put all angst to bed, but giving a name to the wider group will have an effect on getting people in there who aren't yet part of it.
Be you an original NSLer, a Kilner Banker, a Riversider, a Cowshedder, a Pop Stander, an armchair fan, a shoe holder-upper, a Revell Ward Suiter or whatever other moniker.....being able to join a South Stand *group* without feeling like the NSL has passed you by would be more attractive to join in the fun.
I'm not saying the NSL should be disbanded. But the NSL should become a badge of honour within the South Stand *group*
We need this home end to really kick on and fill the allocation. We need the NSL, the KB singing section and any new faces in there singing as one and working as the 12th man team
I don't however think that there needs to be a change in the personnel other than the welcoming of other "groups" into the fold, including the welcoming and integration of group leaders where they so wish (which I'm sure the NSL are already open to).
Apologies....had a few jars so may have come across as a bit OTT.
UTT!
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Post by scoffsablue on Mar 14, 2015 9:52:22 GMT 1
I agree that some serious consideration needs to go into the naming of the organised support in the South Stand. I think that the season in the North Stand as the NSL is something to be proud of and is something of a defining moment in the history of Town's support. The people involved were a huge force of persuasion in the allocation of South Stand as a home end. However, this is a new chapter in our clubs supporter history. Renaming as the SSL allows anybody who hasn't been part of the NSL to be part of the current and future support within the SS without feeling like its a group that they didn't join and integrate into when it really was the NSL. If the NSL name continues as the group behind then organised support within the SS then I think it potentially ostracises fans without them giving it a chance. Think about it.....if you join the NSL as part of the support in the South Stand next season having never been in the FML this season, are you going to feel like you can be a real part of the NSL? All I'm saying is that there needs to be a name given to the South Stand *group* that is all inclusive and allows anyone to feel like they belong wholeheartedly in the group. I get it that after one game the hospitality shown will put all angst to bed, but giving a name to the wider group will have an effect on getting people in there who aren't yet part of it. Be you an original NSLer, a Kilner Banker, a Riversider, a Cowshedder, a Pop Stander, an armchair fan, a shoe holder-upper, a Revell Ward Suiter or whatever other moniker.....being able to join a South Stand *group* without feeling like the NSL has passed you by would be more attractive to join in the fun. I'm not saying the NSL should be disbanded. But the NSL should become a badge of honour within the South Stand *group* We need this home end to really kick on and fill the allocation. We need the NSL, the KB singing section and any new faces in there singing as one and working as the 12th man team I don't however think that there needs to be a change in the personnel other than the welcoming of other "groups" into the fold, including the welcoming and integration of group leaders where they so wish (which I'm sure the NSL are already open to). Apologies....had a few jars so may have come across as a bit OTT. UTT! Fantastic post ...Have you been reading our blue print ?? There is nothing there that i disagree with in principle....The NSL will keep it's badge and brand but the SS is about ALL Town fans coming together as one behind the goal in the best stand acoustically and atmospherically in the stadium....Whilst being in the NS we have never sung NS boys we are here...or no one takes the NS end....It's always been The Cowshed.....Our history would challenge any other team in the FL and most in the premiership.....I think we should back our team from behind the goal as one as THE COWSHED END....A new concept based upon times gone by that welcomes all Town fans from all stands in the stadium.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Mar 14, 2015 16:04:52 GMT 1
NSL in name. Cowshed in spirit.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 18, 2015 13:56:11 GMT 1
NSL in name. Cowshed in spirit. Think about changing it to Cowshed in name. Cowshed in spirit. Only an outsiders opinion. You shouldn't feel like a change of name would take away any of the hard work done by the NSL or the appreciation for it.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Mar 19, 2015 11:35:47 GMT 1
NSL in name. Cowshed in spirit. Think about changing it to Cowshed in name. Cowshed in spirit. Only an outsiders opinion. You shouldn't feel like a change of name would take away any of the hard work done by the NSL or the appreciation for it. I agree, I'd have liked to see a name change but to be honest the name is somewhat irrelevant as long as the good work continues.
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Post by southstandloyal on Mar 20, 2015 23:35:38 GMT 1
NSL in name. Cowshed in spirit. Think about changing it to Cowshed in name. Cowshed in spirit. Only an outsiders opinion. You shouldn't feel like a change of name would take away any of the hard work done by the NSL or the appreciation for it. I'm with you on this. The NSL banner is too much of a select band that one is unable to join after this season in its full capacity. A name change would and should be all inclusive so that in 10 years time a fan can join and feel part of the home end group. The NSL name should be a name that is a badge within the South Stand *group*. The NSL pretty much won us the "home end", but the end product should be named after something that we can all be part of, all buy into, and all feel proud/happy to be called. UTT
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Post by southstandloyal on Mar 20, 2015 23:38:03 GMT 1
....and whilst I've used the handle SouthStandLoyal I am not putting this forward as a name for our group. I'd like to hear the Cowshed in there simply because the Cowshed was our original home end (and we could move between the stands to get in there so was truly open to all fans to get in there :-) )
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Post by scoffsablue on Mar 20, 2015 23:41:52 GMT 1
....and whilst I've used the handle SouthStandLoyal I am not putting this forward as a name for our group. I'd like to hear the Cowshed in there simply because the Cowshed was our original home end (and we could move between the stands to get in there so was truly open to all fans to get in there :-) ) Like i said earlier, this initiative is for all Town fans from all stands....Check out the main board for the new home end flag...I think that answers your question.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 9:36:50 GMT 1
I'm genuinely gutted that Mr William Tyndale would turn out to be such a two face. True colours and all that. Hope this is the last we hear from him, ever. it is good to be Anonymous Only if you are a fool or a Coward.
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Apr 4, 2015 11:55:11 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention. Well I have read this post now at least 4 times, just to make sure that I understood what I was reading before commenting. What a complete load of TOSH. Firstly for completeness and transparency I am not a member of NSL and neither would I want to be. Why can we only ASSUME that NSL has been a failure, what is your evidence to support this assumption. My view and understanding is that NSL was formed in collaboration with the club to try and increase match day atmosphere that has been lacking since the development of the ground we have today. It is agreed by everyone concerned including the club and its directors that the acoustics of the ground are shocking AND I am sure that given the chance again this is something that would be addressed if we could wind back the clock BUT we can't. The ground is what it is but the club have not just sat back and thought, well there is nothing we can do, they have been proactive in trying to find a solution that also fitted in the the wishes of the fans, the club, the stadium owners and the SLG. The only viable solution at the start of this season was the area used by NSL. Yes there has been a change of heart and another temporary solution has been identified but for you to say that the NSL has caused divide between town fans does not stand scrutiny nor in my view is supported by the evidence. My understanding was that NSL was for like minded fans to congregate together on match days and to try and replicate the away atmosphere that we are so good at creating. Yes there may have been a few comments on the different social media platforms but if I call you a tosser it does not mean that I am right and if my allegation of you being a tosser is supported by a few people again that does not again mean it is right, it is simple a view point or a perception by a few people (For clarity I do not know whether you are a tosser or not). I would just like to hear what your REAL evidence is that a) there is rivalry between fans because of NSL? b) the NSL has failed and what were their objectives they failed to achieve? c) there is a divide between fans? d) the persons behind the NSL are not the right ones and based on what? In summary it is my view that this thread you have created causes the biggest fracture between fans. It is far better to have tried and failed than never tried at all
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 20:52:48 GMT 1
Well I have read this post now at least 4 times, just to make sure that I understood what I was reading before commenting. What a complete load of TOSH. Firstly for completeness and transparency I am not a member of NSL and neither would I want to be. Why can we only ASSUME that NSL has been a failure, what is your evidence to support this assumption. My view and understanding is that NSL was formed in collaboration with the club to try and increase match day atmosphere that has been lacking since the development of the ground we have today. It is agreed by everyone concerned including the club and its directors that the acoustics of the ground are shocking AND I am sure that given the chance again this is something that would be addressed if we could wind back the clock BUT we can't. The ground is what it is but the club have not just sat back and thought, well there is nothing we can do, they have been proactive in trying to find a solution that also fitted in the the wishes of the fans, the club, the stadium owners and the SLG. The only viable solution at the start of this season was the area used by NSL. Yes there has been a change of heart and another temporary solution has been identified but for you to say that the NSL has caused divide between town fans does not stand scrutiny nor in my view is supported by the evidence. My understanding was that NSL was for like minded fans to congregate together on match days and to try and replicate the away atmosphere that we are so good at creating. Yes there may have been a few comments on the different social media platforms but if I call you a tosser it does not mean that I am right and if my allegation of you being a tosser is supported by a few people again that does not again mean it is right, it is simple a view point or a perception by a few people (For clarity I do not know whether you are a tosser or not). I would just like to hear what your REAL evidence is that a) there is rivalry between fans because of NSL? b) the NSL has failed and what were their objectives they failed to achieve? c) there is a divide between fans? d) the persons behind the NSL are not the right ones and based on what? In summary it is my view that this thread you have created causes the biggest fracture between fans. It is far better to have tried and failed than never tried at all the evidence of rivalry / divide can be found by contacting members of the NSL who have posted on this forum about the abuse they have faced on social media
IMHO next season will show if it has been successful or not by the numbers in the SS
As one of those that has received abuse, I feel I should just point out that it's only been one way abuse. That's not rivalry or devide.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 10:16:22 GMT 1
As one of those that has received abuse, I feel I should just point out that it's only been one way abuse. That's not rivalry or devide. Ben are you a politician, to suggest it as only been one way is far fetched, you've only to look at some of the post on this thread responding to my non abuse post to see the claim you make is unlikely to be true And you are assuming that all those who have 'abused' you are those that organise the NSL.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 16:26:26 GMT 1
And you are assuming that all those who have 'abused' you are those that organise the NSL. no ben not all I don't really understand your OP tbh. You said the NSL needs to change the people that organise it, who are those that need replacing?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 19:45:12 GMT 1
I don't really understand your OP tbh. You said the NSL needs to change the people that organise it, who are those that need replacing? First Ben a quid pro quo, why have the clique resurrected this issue Who's the clique?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 9:24:51 GMT 1
Remember this baddie Sio?
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