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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 10, 2015 18:52:23 GMT 1
What? I think you'll find it's a few folk that have had a go at the NSL.
It's biggest achievement this season is to secure a home, covered end behind the goal.
The people who have been the driving force are top people who have spent hours and pounds trying to create an atmosphere behind the goal.
Not sure what your post contributes other than contention. Did you miss a smiley face off the end of your post?
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Post by Sio on Mar 10, 2015 18:58:44 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention.
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Mar 10, 2015 19:06:41 GMT 1
Not sure if it's been particularly divisisive but I was put off going in the north stand by the whole branding thing and it seeming to be some sort of gang / clique with leaders etc. I think going to footy should be a bit more chilled out and relaxed than all that, few beers, a bit of a sing sing and every now and then a win but then that's just me. The 'organised fun' seems to work for other people so fair play to them if that's what they want to do. It has been detrimental to the atmosphere this season but hopefully next season the availability of the south stand should improve this issue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 19:11:40 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention. I'm assuming this is a wind up.
However, anyone doing something different will always be a target.
Whether that's labelling everyone in the KB Singing Section as a "chav", or getting behind or beratimg the drummer, being upset that the Pompous Patrons don't tell anyone else what happened at their meetings or Supporters Associations splashing "our" money on worthless trophy and memorabilia collections, there have been plenty of divides recently.
They're healthy, all part of the tribal mature of football.
Back in the day, the terrace used to ridicule/inspire the cowshed with their "cowshed cowshed give us a song" chant (up towards the away fans we could never hear a murmur from the cowshed although they LOOKED to be having a good time... funny that ain't it?!).
Nothing ever really changes.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Mar 10, 2015 19:12:56 GMT 1
So the NSL is a failure even though they actually went out and proved the need for a home end and actually convinced the club to open up the South Stand for home fans, while the other bellends simply sat there and moaned that any home end should be in the South Stand?
I think the only failures in this scenario are the idiots who created this "divide" in the first place by not supporting the NSL in trying to improve the experience for everyone in the stadium.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 10, 2015 19:17:37 GMT 1
Will the NSL all go in South stand now then, soz for asking ?
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Post by 1876tom on Mar 10, 2015 19:22:06 GMT 1
suicide
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 10, 2015 19:24:31 GMT 1
It is more "organised fun" than a congregation of pissed up blokes like a lot of other clubs, which was suitable for the Family Stand, I'm sure it will have to adapt a little in the South Stand. But remember it is still a new thing so I'm sure all members are still learning and improving the way they go about their business.
I'm sure they would welcome some constructive criticism rather than just you having a go.
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Post by deo1 on Mar 10, 2015 19:26:23 GMT 1
Good luck to the NSL but I'll never go in there. Where I sit in the Kilner Bank usually has a decent atmosphere (left hand side of the half way line row LL) and the view from the North Stand is quite frankly abysmal compared to the view I've got in the Kilner. I sat in the North Stand Upper against Leeds and couldn't really hear the NSL singing that much, I supposed the way we played had something to do with that though. Hopefully the South Stand experiment will work but if it doesn't the atmosphere could become pretty dire at home as some fans who sit in the bottom left of the Kilner may move due to not having a guaranteed seat for every home game and if an away team brings over the 4,000 then we'll get out sung from word go as they'll generate a noise from the two stands they'll be in which will drowned out the Town fans in the Kilner and North Stand.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 10, 2015 19:26:37 GMT 1
it was merely to try and have a home end.. we still haven't got one for the bigger games and some people are now a bit more annoyed than they were..
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Post by terrierng on Mar 10, 2015 19:28:04 GMT 1
They are all dickheads especially ben...;D
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Mar 10, 2015 19:33:52 GMT 1
I think the whole aim of the NSL was to create a better home atmosphere. Whilst numbers weren't as many as hoped for I am sure that they were close to expectations. Because of their efforts and the cost to many individuals, they, along with the ATT, have persuaded the club to create a better home end in part of the South Stand. The choice of how people want to enjoy their Town matches is down to the fans's choice. I have been in the NSL on a couple of occasions and was a nice change but a poor view. The south stand will be judged on its success, and hopefully fans will accept some small inconveniences along the way and contribute to a better atmosphere at home games, win, lose or draw.
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Post by Sio on Mar 10, 2015 19:35:03 GMT 1
Good luck to the NSL but I'll never go in there. Where I sit in the Kilner Bank usually has a decent atmosphere (left hand side of the half way line row LL) and the view from the North Stand is quite frankly abysmal compared to the view I've got in the Kilner. I sat in the North Stand Upper against Leeds and couldn't really hear the NSL singing that much, I supposed the way we played had something to do with that though. Hopefully the South Stand experiment will work but if it doesn't the atmosphere could become pretty dire at home as some fans who sit in the bottom left of the Kilner may move due to not having a guaranteed seat for every home game and if an away team brings over the 4,000 then we'll get out sung from word go as they'll generate a noise from the two stands they'll be in which will drowned out the Town fans in the Kilner and North Stand. Would any sensible person genuinely move for this reason? The chances of any team bringing 7000 (I'm excluding Leeds as I don't believe we'll allow it) are so slim - why would someone give up their seat just on the very slight potential of having to move once a season? It's as petty as people giving the NSL stick. We've got some daft fans if anyone actually does that.
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Post by deo1 on Mar 10, 2015 19:39:53 GMT 1
Good luck to the NSL but I'll never go in there. Where I sit in the Kilner Bank usually has a decent atmosphere (left hand side of the half way line row LL) and the view from the North Stand is quite frankly abysmal compared to the view I've got in the Kilner. I sat in the North Stand Upper against Leeds and couldn't really hear the NSL singing that much, I supposed the way we played had something to do with that though. Hopefully the South Stand experiment will work but if it doesn't the atmosphere could become pretty dire at home as some fans who sit in the bottom left of the Kilner may move due to not having a guaranteed seat for every home game and if an away team brings over the 4,000 then we'll get out sung from word go as they'll generate a noise from the two stands they'll be in which will drowned out the Town fans in the Kilner and North Stand. Would any sensible person genuinely move for this reason? The chances of any team bringing 7000 (I'm excluding Leeds as I don't believe we'll allow it) are so slim - why would someone give up their seat just on the very slight potential of having to move once a season? It's as petty as people giving the NSL stick. We've got some daft fans if anyone actually does that. There's nothing as strange as a Yorkshireman and some peoples principles will dictate whether they stay in the seat they've had for years with the assumption that they'll be moved a few times a season, move somewhere else or not but a season ticket altogether. It wouldn't bother me and I wouldn't mind moving for certain games to get more fans in the ground but if we gave the Kilner Bank to certain clubs then I'd want to move out of there for those games as I wouldn't want the away teams songs rammed down my throat for the full 90 minutes and that's what will probably happen.
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Post by Sio on Mar 10, 2015 19:45:51 GMT 1
Would any sensible person genuinely move for this reason? The chances of any team bringing 7000 (I'm excluding Leeds as I don't believe we'll allow it) are so slim - why would someone give up their seat just on the very slight potential of having to move once a season? It's as petty as people giving the NSL stick. We've got some daft fans if anyone actually does that. There's nothing as strange as a Yorkshireman and some peoples principles will dictate whether they stay in the seat they've had for years with the assumption that they'll be moved a few times a season, move somewhere else or not but a season ticket altogether. It wouldn't bother me and I wouldn't mind moving for certain games to get more fans in the ground but if we gave the Kilner Bank to certain clubs then I'd want to move out of there for those games as I wouldn't want the away teams songs rammed down my throat for the full 90 minutes and that's what will probably happen. Maybe it'd encourage a bit of singing from the middle of the Kilner in that scenario. I appreciate the potential downsides of all this, and can understand some fans being a bit precious over it, but I really think this whole thing might reinvigorate the ground a bit. It's all been too stale and 'samey' for 20 years. People have got into the routine of sitting in the same seat; and knowing whether or not they're expected to sing in those seats. The whole situation, for me, is great. I'm positively affected in that I can move to the south stand, which is what I've wanted for years; but I really think the club have needed to man up a bit on this for a long time, and finally they have.
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Post by nicovaesen on Mar 10, 2015 19:48:31 GMT 1
Not sure if it's been particularly divisisive but I was put off going in the north stand by the whole branding thing and it seeming to be some sort of gang / clique with leaders etc. I think going to footy should be a bit more chilled out and relaxed than all that, few beers, a bit of a sing sing and every now and then a win but then that's just me. The 'organised fun' seems to work for other people so fair play to them if that's what they want to do. It has been detrimental to the atmosphere this season but hopefully next season the availability of the south stand should improve this issue. Detrimental to the atmosphere? The NSL? The world famous john smiths atmosphere?
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Post by claytonwestblue on Mar 10, 2015 19:48:39 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention. Go shake your head you half wit
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Post by deo1 on Mar 10, 2015 19:51:55 GMT 1
There's nothing as strange as a Yorkshireman and some peoples principles will dictate whether they stay in the seat they've had for years with the assumption that they'll be moved a few times a season, move somewhere else or not but a season ticket altogether. It wouldn't bother me and I wouldn't mind moving for certain games to get more fans in the ground but if we gave the Kilner Bank to certain clubs then I'd want to move out of there for those games as I wouldn't want the away teams songs rammed down my throat for the full 90 minutes and that's what will probably happen. Maybe it'd encourage a bit of singing from the middle of the Kilner in that scenario. I appreciate the potential downsides of all this, and can understand some fans being a bit precious over it, but I really think this whole thing might reinvigorate the ground a bit. It's all been too stale and 'samey' for 20 years. People have got into the routine of sitting in the same seat; and knowing whether or not they're expected to sing in those seats. The whole situation, for me, is great. I'm positively affected in that I can move to the south stand, which is what I've wanted for years; but I really think the club have needed to man up a bit on this for a long time, and finally they have. You're probably right and hopefully the South Stand is a success and town end up swapping the away end for the North Stand. Plenty of clubs have boxes in an away end designated for home fans too so that shouldn't be a problem. I've always either stood on the East Terrace or sat in the Kilner Bank so I don't think I'll be taking up the offer of a seat in the South Stand when we get the chance to go in there but if the numbers are large then the Town fans should generate quite a decent atmosphere which will hopeful stream throughout the stadium.
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Mar 10, 2015 19:57:06 GMT 1
Not sure if it's been particularly divisisive but I was put off going in the north stand by the whole branding thing and it seeming to be some sort of gang / clique with leaders etc. I think going to footy should be a bit more chilled out and relaxed than all that, few beers, a bit of a sing sing and every now and then a win but then that's just me. The 'organised fun' seems to work for other people so fair play to them if that's what they want to do. It has been detrimental to the atmosphere this season but hopefully next season the availability of the south stand should improve this issue. Detrimental to the atmosphere? The NSL? The world famous john smiths atmosphere? The atmosphere was never great in the first place but for the big games it could get going a bit. Just because it wasn't good in the first place doesn't mean it can't have got worse. I'm not really sure what your point is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 20:00:36 GMT 1
They are all dickheads especially ben...;D Love you xxxx
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Post by htfcsince70 on Mar 10, 2015 20:05:13 GMT 1
To be fair I thought those that went into the North Stand did a great job in difficult circumstances - sun in their eyes when sunny, wet through when it rained and stll managed to make a noise without a roof when some of the football on show was poor at best. I have sat in all areas of the stadium over the years but prefer to be nearer the half way line and quite high so that I can see the shape of play etc but I must admit to recently being tempted to go in the North Stand - and what difference does a name make - my days in the Cowshed were some of the best ever - it didnt matter what it was called - it was just a great afternoon or Tuesday night out with my mates! I hope that the South Stand is a success and all those that go in their sing their hearts out, enjoy themselves and become the twelfth man that we need. To be honest I was surprised and excited by the prospect of having a proper home end next season - well done to HTFC for sorting it and those in the North Stand who tried to make a difference!
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Post by scoffsablue on Mar 10, 2015 20:15:21 GMT 1
To be fair I thought those that went into the North Stand did a great job in difficult circumstances - sun in their eyes when sunny, wet through when it rained and stll managed to make a noise without a roof when some of the football on show was poor at best. I have sat in all areas of the stadium over the years but prefer to be nearer the half way line and quite high so that I can see the shape of play etc but I must admit to recently being tempted to go in the North Stand - and what difference does a name make - my days in the Cowshed were some of the best ever - it didnt matter what it was called - it was just a great afternoon or Tuesday night out with my mates! I hope that the South Stand is a success and all those that go in their sing their hearts out, enjoy themselves and become the twelfth man that we need. To be honest I was surprised and excited by the prospect of having a proper home end next season - well done to HTFC for sorting it and those in the North Stand who tried to make a difference!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 20:18:23 GMT 1
The rain falls hard on a humdrum town This town has dragged you down Oh, the rain falls hard on a humdrum town This town has dragged you down Oh, no, and everybody's got to live their life And God knows I've got to live mine
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 20:18:51 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention. What a load of crap
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Post by Barbieterrier on Mar 10, 2015 20:19:15 GMT 1
In all of towns history there has never been a rivalry between our own fans until the NSL was formed, and bearing this in mind we can only assume that the NSL has been a total failure. Its biggest achievement this season is to produce a divide between town fans, and has a result of this the club and the NSL should take a step back and look at the people who have been the driving force behind NSL and ask are they the right people to carry this on next season, because the club needs its fans to be together not split. So for the sake of the club and too mend the fractures that the NSL has caused between the fans, the NSL should look for more of a diplomatic personnel to be the new driving force of the NSL It needs people who can mend the fractures that they have made, it needs people who can create a togetherness not contention. In all the time ive read DATM ive never ever read a more ridiculous post. The minority against the NSL was a handful of haters who were either jealous of the success, don't like change or just generally unhappy that it had the clubs backing - hardly worthy of being given the name rivalry since the haters were drum beaters in the Britannia rescue who rather than spend time watching the game spent time cursing away fans.. In all the time ive been going to games (mostly as a lone female) ive never felt more accepted by a group of guys at games, more included, more looked after or had a better home match day experience sat in the FML. I wasn't one of the guys who put together the idea and being an existing season card holder in FML was unsure about renewing in there, but ive seen the hard work and passion put into the NSL by some of the nicest guys ive ever met at that ground all done in their own time. I find this original post insulting and wide off the mark. We are all town aren't we right? UTT!
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Post by bridgeterrier on Mar 10, 2015 20:43:40 GMT 1
Not sure if the OP is on a wind up or just someone from the 'singing section' who is jealous.
It was never about who can sing the loudest, I'm pretty sure if the singing section were to out sing the NSL they would be delighted that somebody else were trying to improve the atmosphere in the ground.
The NSL have done a marvellous job as far as I can see from my seat in the South end of the Revell Ward stand, I may not hear them every game but I can certainly see them putting the effort in with flags,streamers and bouncing around while trying to cheer the team on. If only the rest of us put half as much effort in the whole matchday would be a much more enjoyable experience.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 20:45:53 GMT 1
A tragic OP
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Post by Cole on Mar 10, 2015 21:00:27 GMT 1
I opened this thread feeling optimistic of a nice, happy thread looking forward to next season working together in a home end. Oh boy was I wrong.
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Post by terrier4life on Mar 10, 2015 21:04:19 GMT 1
Not sure if the OP is on a wind up or just someone from the 'singing section' who is jealous. It was never about who can sing the loudest, I'm pretty sure if the singing section were to out sing the NSL they would be delighted that somebody else were trying to improve the atmosphere in the ground. The NSL have done a marvellous job as far as I can see from my seat in the South end of the Revell Ward stand, I may not hear them every game but I can certainly see them putting the effort in with flags,streamers and bouncing around while trying to cheer the team on. If only the rest of us put half as much effort in the whole matchday would be a much more enjoyable experience. If the team on the field put in the same effort as the NSL, Town would be guaranteed a play off spot by now
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Post by willo on Mar 10, 2015 21:07:30 GMT 1
Is there a rivalry? I'd never picked up on one. If there is, it's a bloody one-sided one and it ain't coming from the NSL. Gotta be the worst post I've ever read on here and that's saying something.
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