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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 18:20:42 GMT 1
I fell for Dean Hoyle,s patter and bought an early bird SC last March..I then went to see the Bournemouth game,Robbins walked and the Owner took weeks to appoint a Manager who,s name had been bandied about on here,to my dismay he was the chosen one..I haven,t been to another game all season,because of this,so I wasted over £200,the current state of affairs at the club with a manager who cannot get results,and signs dummies,means I won,t be falling for it again...Of course if the owner gets rid and appoints someone with credentials {other than "yes Mr.Hoyle"}I would probably get another SC.... Bought a season card yet? This thread needs putting in the 'DATM gold' archive. I think we had shared feelings of consternation as we read this thread straight after the Fulham game in the canalside. It was always destined to make a few kneejerkers, and a few more that simply aren't prepared to show a bit of patience, look a bit daft. You could see in the Fulham game, and the Norwich game that we were playing well, and the wins would come sooner rather than later.
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Post by yorkie1 on Apr 12, 2015 20:20:46 GMT 1
We have not moved forward at all this season. I will not be attending matches until Powell has gone. Many clubs get a reaction from new managers. What did we get? A few results merely paints over the cracks.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 12, 2015 20:23:57 GMT 1
We have not moved forward at all this season. I will not be attending matches until Powell has gone. Many clubs get a reaction from new managers. What did we get? A few results merely paints over the cracks. In the world of the doommonger do only defeats count ?
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Post by royrace on Apr 12, 2015 20:25:50 GMT 1
Another old post dragged up by the 'I told you so' brigade. Sad, infantile and pointless imo. Sorry just saying, leave the old threads where they belong.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 12, 2015 20:29:15 GMT 1
Another old post dragged up by the 'I told you so' brigade. Sad, infantile and pointless imo. Sorry just saying, leave the old threads where they belong. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Why ? They're funny
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 20:31:14 GMT 1
Another old post dragged up by the 'I told you so' brigade. Sad, infantile and pointless imo. Sorry just saying, leave the old threads where they belong. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards I asked if he would be getting a ST, where did I say I told you so?
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Apr 12, 2015 20:31:22 GMT 1
We have not moved forward at all this season. I will not be attending matches until Powell has gone. Many clubs get a reaction from new managers. What did we get? A few results merely paints over the cracks. We are higher in the league now than where we finished last season. How have we not moved forward?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 21:11:48 GMT 1
We have not moved forward at all this season. I will not be attending matches until Powell has gone. Many clubs get a reaction from new managers. What did we get? A few results merely paints over the cracks. We are higher in the league now than where we finished last season. How have we not moved forward? We clearly have moved forward, not massively, but a definite improvement, which has been done whilst reducing the squad. Unfortunately yorkie made his mind up about Powell before he'd even managed a game for us and rather than admit there's a chance he may be wrong, he's decided to go on strike - an utter buffoon. I'm sure at some point Powell will have a bad spell and get the boot and he'll be back here saying he was right all along.
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Post by yorkie1 on Apr 12, 2015 21:28:50 GMT 1
Moved forward? Get real. Same old, same old and any perceived progress is simply down to other teams being even worse. If that is good enough for unambitious imbeciles like yourself best of luck, may be you can give yourself a little tug if we finish 12th sometime but 'progress' on this basis is unsustainable.
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Post by webbo on Apr 12, 2015 22:26:57 GMT 1
Hiya folks. Charlton fan here who has been staying away from your board, but obviously following your progress due to my interest in how Chris Powell is doing. Its your message board, your club, and your manager so anything I say will be peripheral as you're all close up and personal as to how Chris Powell has been getting on. Your views as to his football, interaction with players and supporters, substitutions, players brought in and the whole kit and caboodle have developed a lot since he was appointed. I want to clear one thing up about the perception that Charlton sort of faded away after his early success with us. The story was that the mysterious people who owned us simply turned the money tap off. Just before his last season with us Powell had to sign Marvin Sordell on loan, and Simon (spongefoot) Church less than a week before that season started. He was basically unsupported from then on, the pitch became a disgrace, and it was a struggle. Even then we got a cup run together under our new weird owners, and we had some results like winning against QPR as they went up (via the playoffs). Powell was caught up in terrible circumstances actually, but did not lose the dressing room or most of the fans, because at the time most of us recognised the constraints (including having to sell Dale Stephens to Brighton and Yann Kermogant to Bournemouth). Now some of you may say he can't cut it which is fair enough, but to make that judgement because of his final reel at Charlton is to see a very distorted picture of what was going on at Charlton at the time. I believe you would be better analysing how he has done at Huddersfield to make a judgement on the future there. I am a bit saddened at how disliked he is by some of you I admit, and I hope he pulls through and wins more of you over, but right now the terriers support are in the best position to judge things. If Powell was sacked would you be looking for a manager such as Mark Warburton or is the more likely scenario that your owner will persist with Powell allowing him the platform of a close season to get his own team together? All the best and I look forward to our four or so games against you next season.
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Post by wtd on Apr 12, 2015 22:37:55 GMT 1
Hiya folks. Charlton fan here who has been staying away from your board, but obviously following your progress due to my interest in how Chris Powell is doing. Its your message board, your club, and your manager so anything I say will be peripheral as you're all close up and personal as to how Chris Powell has been getting on. Your views as to his football, interaction with players and supporters, substitutions, players brought in and the whole kit and caboodle have developed a lot since he was appointed. I want to clear one thing up about the perception that Charlton sort of faded away after his early success with us. The story was that the mysterious people who owned us simply turned the money tap off. Just before his last season with us Powell had to sign Marvin Sordell on loan, and Simon (spongefoot) Church less than a week before that season started. He was basically unsupported from then on, the pitch became a disgrace, and it was a struggle. Even then we got a cup run together under our new weird owners, and we had some results like winning against QPR as they went up (via the playoffs). Powell was caught up in terrible circumstances actually, but did not lose the dressing room or most of the fans, because at the time most of us recognised the constraints (including having to sell Dale Stephens to Brighton and Yann Kermogant to Bournemouth). Now some of you may say he can't cut it which is fair enough, but to make that judgement because of his final reel at Charlton is to see a very distorted picture of what was going on at Charlton at the time. I believe you would be better analysing how he has done at Huddersfield to make a judgement on the future there. I am a bit saddened at how disliked he is by some of you I admit, and I hope he pulls through and wins more of you over, but right now the terriers support are in the best position to judge things. If Powell was sacked would you be looking for a manager such as Mark Warburton or is the more likely scenario that your owner will persist with Powell allowing him the platform of a close season to get his own team together? All the best and I look forward to our four or so games against you next season. Thanks for posting. We haven't all rejected Powell. Some of us are trying to see the bigger picture.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Apr 12, 2015 22:40:38 GMT 1
Hiya folks. Charlton fan here who has been staying away from your board, but obviously following your progress due to my interest in how Chris Powell is doing. Its your message board, your club, and your manager so anything I say will be peripheral as you're all close up and personal as to how Chris Powell has been getting on. Your views as to his football, interaction with players and supporters, substitutions, players brought in and the whole kit and caboodle have developed a lot since he was appointed. I want to clear one thing up about the perception that Charlton sort of faded away after his early success with us. The story was that the mysterious people who owned us simply turned the money tap off. Just before his last season with us Powell had to sign Marvin Sordell on loan, and Simon (spongefoot) Church less than a week before that season started. He was basically unsupported from then on, the pitch became a disgrace, and it was a struggle. Even then we got a cup run together under our new weird owners, and we had some results like winning against QPR as they went up (via the playoffs). Powell was caught up in terrible circumstances actually, but did not lose the dressing room or most of the fans, because at the time most of us recognised the constraints (including having to sell Dale Stephens to Brighton and Yann Kermogant to Bournemouth). Now some of you may say he can't cut it which is fair enough, but to make that judgement because of his final reel at Charlton is to see a very distorted picture of what was going on at Charlton at the time. I believe you would be better analysing how he has done at Huddersfield to make a judgement on the future there. I am a bit saddened at how disliked he is by some of you I admit, and I hope he pulls through and wins more of you over, but right now the terriers support are in the best position to judge things. If Powell was sacked would you be looking for a manager such as Mark Warburton or is the more likely scenario that your owner will persist with Powell allowing him the platform of a close season to get his own team together? All the best and I look forward to our four or so games against you next season. It is a vocal and very small minority who don't like him. Most do or are willing to give him a summer and a full season to see how he does. It has been frustrating at times this season. We have played well against and beaten some of the better sides but then lost against some awful teams. It is this lack of consistency and lack of changes by Powell (to starting line up and during the game) that has annoyed some people. We are heading in the right direction though and 2/3 quality signings could see us as a top half team next season. Powell will get the backing of our chairman in the summer. No chance of him being sacked at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 22:42:43 GMT 1
Hiya folks. Charlton fan here who has been staying away from your board, but obviously following your progress due to my interest in how Chris Powell is doing. Its your message board, your club, and your manager so anything I say will be peripheral as you're all close up and personal as to how Chris Powell has been getting on. Your views as to his football, interaction with players and supporters, substitutions, players brought in and the whole kit and caboodle have developed a lot since he was appointed. I want to clear one thing up about the perception that Charlton sort of faded away after his early success with us. The story was that the mysterious people who owned us simply turned the money tap off. Just before his last season with us Powell had to sign Marvin Sordell on loan, and Simon (spongefoot) Church less than a week before that season started. He was basically unsupported from then on, the pitch became a disgrace, and it was a struggle. Even then we got a cup run together under our new weird owners, and we had some results like winning against QPR as they went up (via the playoffs). Powell was caught up in terrible circumstances actually, but did not lose the dressing room or most of the fans, because at the time most of us recognised the constraints (including having to sell Dale Stephens to Brighton and Yann Kermogant to Bournemouth). Now some of you may say he can't cut it which is fair enough, but to make that judgement because of his final reel at Charlton is to see a very distorted picture of what was going on at Charlton at the time. I believe you would be better analysing how he has done at Huddersfield to make a judgement on the future there. I am a bit saddened at how disliked he is by some of you I admit, and I hope he pulls through and wins more of you over, but right now the terriers support are in the best position to judge things. If Powell was sacked would you be looking for a manager such as Mark Warburton or is the more likely scenario that your owner will persist with Powell allowing him the platform of a close season to get his own team together? All the best and I look forward to our four or so games against you next season. Are you saying that the owners signed Sordell and Church?
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Post by webbo on Apr 12, 2015 22:45:50 GMT 1
Sordell was a rushed loan signing just before the season started (because of no money for anybody else), and Church was available on a free and he was the only punt available so late on. It was them or nobody at the time.
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Post by webbo on Apr 12, 2015 22:47:20 GMT 1
Oops, so I should say those two were the only players the then owners would allow at the time, I am certain that Chris would have preferred to have better choices to make.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 12, 2015 22:51:04 GMT 1
People who cite Powells record at Charlton as a stick to beat him with are just clueless about football, usually the same ones who think Lee clark did a great job getting us into the play offs season after season
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 23:19:26 GMT 1
Let's see how season ticket sales do. With the economy improving, that's no longer a reason for customers to stay away.
How are sales so far?
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Apr 12, 2015 23:33:43 GMT 1
We have not moved forward at all this season. I will not be attending matches until Powell has gone. Many clubs get a reaction from new managers. What did we get? A few results merely paints over the cracks. Spit your dummy out you fool, if you know anything about football!! which i very much doubt it looks like you wont be watching Town for a while, good riddance.
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Post by shawsie on Apr 12, 2015 23:39:06 GMT 1
Ffs folks get a grip! Has this season been frustrating - yes! Has Powell been negative at times and the football poor to watch - yes! Do any of you really think not getting a season ticket and choosing "away games because it's a better craic" is going to improve things? ? Erm that will be a no then!!!! The jury remains out with Powell for me.....but he deserves an opportunity to bring in some of his own players to reshape the squad surely?! Am getting right royally peed off with the we aren't renewing brigade, particularly those that vocalise it on here ...... Those that aren't and have a genuine reason please ignore my rant, but what ruddy good does not coming to home games do?! Poorer atmosphere, easier for away teams, less revenue for the club etc etc etc. We are a genuine championship football team now - miles away from the rag tag outfit that Grayson squeezed over the line.........this level is tough. Look at Wigan to see what can happen to a team with DOUBLE our wage bill but no leadership!!!! Town aren't perfect and the current owners and board have made mistakes...........but they fund those mistakes and without em we'd be fooked! Stop moaning and start renewing........wouldn't it be good to have 12k season ticket holders and looking upwards not bemoaning a reduced number of 6/8k?!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 23:54:56 GMT 1
We have not moved forward at all this season. I will not be attending matches until Powell has gone. Many clubs get a reaction from new managers. What did we get? A few results merely paints over the cracks. Many clubs? Er Like Blackpool, Wigan, Brighton, Millwall, Bolton, Leeds, Fulham....Name yours in the Championship .......enjoy your stay away...
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Apr 12, 2015 23:59:27 GMT 1
Let's see how season ticket sales do. With the economy improving, that's no longer a reason for customers to stay away. How are sales so far? Money is tight for most people and only a few month's a go, it was reported that Huddersfield has the lowest wages in the country, plus Huddersfield has a higher unemployment rate than the national average.
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Post by sapphireblue on Apr 13, 2015 0:06:36 GMT 1
Let's see how season ticket sales do. With the economy improving, that's no longer a reason for customers to stay away. How are sales so far? Well I've got mine. I assume you have too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 0:08:25 GMT 1
Moved forward? Get real. Same old, same old and any perceived progress is simply down to other teams being even worse. If that is good enough for unambitious imbeciles like yourself best of luck, may be you can give yourself a little tug if we finish 12th sometime but 'progress' on this basis is unsustainable. So Mr Ambitious - what's your response.....? 'Ponders all night long and then' takes his ball home....
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Apr 13, 2015 0:14:09 GMT 1
I have yet to talk to anyone who isn't renewing. Football is not cheap anymore and people can spend their money on what they want, but some fans don't seem to appreciate how far we have come in the last few years. This seasons Championship is probably the toughest yet, so i don't think we are doing too badly at all.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 13, 2015 0:31:23 GMT 1
Moved forward? Get real. Same old, same old and any perceived progress is simply down to other teams being even worse. If that is good enough for unambitious imbeciles like yourself best of luck, may be you can give yourself a little tug if we finish 12th sometime but 'progress' on this basis is unsustainable. Is finishing 19th, then 17th and now being 16th moving backwards then? Or unsustainable, like if we continue on that path we'll eventually go down? You do understand how the league table works don't you? Maybe an imbecile could explain it to you.
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Post by trailingleg on Apr 13, 2015 0:46:55 GMT 1
I just cringe when I read posts from people boasting on here about how they aren't going to renew their SCs. Who cares? We will get more and better supporters than you. I hope and pray that these people don't drive Dean Hoyle and Chris Powell out of our club.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Apr 13, 2015 1:34:02 GMT 1
There are upsides and downsides to social media, the down side is that cretins always have to broadcast that they are leaving. Perhaps its in the vain hope that someone will say - no please don't go - For some reason they just cannot slip and proceed quietly. Good riddance cretins.
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Post by morleyterrier on Apr 13, 2015 5:44:18 GMT 1
So we get a good result at granted a tough place to go when the home Team have nothing to play for and everything is 'rosy in the garden'.
Let's forget Powell's overall record here and the amount of unacceptable performances.
Let's forget the countless defeats and 'no shows' in key games.
Let's forget the unentertaining brand of football with fans leaving in droves.
Let's forget what will be extremely poor season ticket sales.
Let's forget his tactical house when it comes to substitutions.
Let's forget that the future success of our Club is reliant on bringing younger home-grown Players through as we cannot purely buy to stay at this level and the fact we see very little of this.
Let's not forget that I wouldn't swap Brentfords squad for ours and look at where they are in the league (and I believe their brand of football is high-tempo / attacking / entertaining). Their first season back at this level.
Let's just be happy that we are surviving at this level and not making real progress (and please don't mention a few more points or a couple of league places as progress, real progress means much more than what has been served up this season).
We have a squad littered with quality footballers, many of whom I suspect will create interest from other Clubs in the summer. The squad is by and large a good squad and Hoyle doesn't need to buy a load of Players. Many think we need a load of Players because our Manager isn't getting the best out of the ones he has got.
Burnley last season, would you have swapped their squad for ours before a ball was kicked?. I wouldn't and like many thought they would struggle. They didn't and in Dyche had a Manager that by and large made great Players out of good / ordinary ones. Now that's Management.
I am of the view with the right Man at the helm, this squad and our football Club is capable of so much more, without Hoyle getting hs cheque book out (again). Or if you are going to spend money Dean, spend it on a high quality Manager. That would be a shrewd investment if they could get the very best out of a talented and existing squad. Giving Powell money to spend in the transfer market I fear will not be.
Oh but hey, we won at Forest. What else matters?.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 5:51:01 GMT 1
pretty sad when supporters take to social media to criticise other supporters, and pretty sad when supporters don't renew because of an individual employee of the club, when they should be looking at the bigger picture.
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Post by captainblack on Apr 13, 2015 6:23:36 GMT 1
We have not moved forward at all this season. I will not be attending matches until Powell has gone. Many clubs get a reaction from new managers. What did we get? A few results merely paints over the cracks. I find it a little sad Yorkie that you will not be attending until Powell leaves . I think Powell has done reasonably well this season and am hopeful that things will improve further next season. I began watching Town in the 70's Yorkie and believe me we were really not very good . I have enjoyed the majority of home games this season and had no doubts about renewing my S.C. I think you should give Powell a fair chance Yorkie before snubbing Town and Powell.
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