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Post by sameoldstory on May 14, 2015 22:17:21 GMT 1
If Blackpool had been winning the game would the football league have awarded them the 3 points ?
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 14, 2015 22:20:56 GMT 1
Well this escalated quickly!
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Post by thrice on May 14, 2015 22:21:39 GMT 1
I'm not surprised & not particularly bothered by what I think is a fair decision under the circumstances.
I've got sympathy for all the parties involved.
It will spice up next season's FA cup tie at Blackpool.
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Post by scoffsablue on May 14, 2015 22:25:05 GMT 1
I hope the Oystons run your club forever. I also hope that when, in two years' time, you are drawing 0-0 at Grimsby on the last day, needing a win to stay in the Football League, you can be sure that there will be hundreds of HUDDERSFIELD fans invading the pitch causing the game to be abandoned. I hope that the FL will be as even-handed as they were today. I'd gladly pay to be there for that one. Then we'll see how much of a smug bastard you really are! Definately bookmarking this thread and giving it a bump when you go down next year Burton Albion away for you laddie on a cold Tuesday night in November...Get used to it and enjoy your long, painful downward spiraling trip in to obscurity
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Post by Giggity on May 14, 2015 22:29:46 GMT 1
At least we kept a clean sheet.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 22:47:18 GMT 1
That's a disgusting and wrong decision on the result. So any team facing relegation now and needing a point from the last match, just needs its fans to sit in the centre circle on 48 minutes, unchallenged by the police and stewards.
Terrible cop out.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 14, 2015 22:47:24 GMT 1
The guy in the wheelchair will be playing for them next season!
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Post by tockyterrier on May 14, 2015 22:54:35 GMT 1
If Blackpool had been winning the game would the football league have awarded them the 3 points ? This. I don't see how they could argue against that scenario in future if that happens. Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using proboards
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Post by softboy on May 14, 2015 22:54:41 GMT 1
Just out of interest because the match was deemed to finish 0 - 0 is this what the bookies will pay out on
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 22:57:28 GMT 1
Powell better start training the fans then, now playing for a point just needs a couple of hundred fans to sit in the centre circle until the match gets abandoned.
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Post by softboy on May 14, 2015 22:59:45 GMT 1
For Blackpool Football Club to get a point from the game is absolutely ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 23:08:12 GMT 1
@spinningherbert What effect has this had on the prediction league? How did it pan out? See my post in the PL forum. I've taken 0-0 as the result for PL purposes. Hope I've not set a dangerous precedent.
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Post by hysterrier on May 14, 2015 23:18:44 GMT 1
We played 45 games and ended up with 54 points, why not just leave it at that? The table shouldn't read 46 games and 55 points because that never happened.The invasion of a pitch should never mean a fixture is not played.
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Post by blueray4 on May 14, 2015 23:25:18 GMT 1
We played 45 games and ended up with 54 points, why not just leave it at that? The table shouldn't read 46 games and 55 points because that never happened.The invasion of a pitch should never mean a fixture is not played. I would have preferred this outcome.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 0:11:13 GMT 1
Shocking decision to punish the innocent side in all of this, sets a bad precedant this now as everyone says ..take a fine and stay up as these bunch of halfwits that sit in an office all day have power to come up with an important decision. Would they do this if was any bigger known team i think not No, the shocking decision is that the GUILTY side has been REWARDED. They were given more points for that 46/47 minutes of uncompleted football match than they averaged over the entire rest of the season.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 15, 2015 0:15:11 GMT 1
Totally the wrong decision...a whitewash. I dont care if its re-played in August. Had the points mattered would this decision have been the same...NO? But they do matter. A total travesty and against everything football stands for. I want Town to protest, i want the fans to invade the pitch the first minute of every game so we get 46 points and survive. RIDICULOUS!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 0:15:57 GMT 1
I am very upset. Sideways upset.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on May 15, 2015 0:28:18 GMT 1
I can just imagine our fans invading the pitch on 46 minutes with the score at 0-0 and with Town needing just a point. They'd be stood there thinking they were being really clever and all that.... ...Then along come West Yorkshire police with batons, police horses and tear gas and plough them all down with a full blown riot for about 10 mins before play resumes
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Post by upthetown on May 15, 2015 0:42:58 GMT 1
I can just imagine our fans invading the pitch on 46 minutes with the score at 0-0 and with Town needing just a point. They'd be stood there thinking they were being really clever and all that.... ...Then along come West Yorkshire police with batons, police horses and tear gas and plough them all down with a full blown riot for about 10 mins before play resumes And the points deduction that follows relegating us and condemning us to ten years in the doldrums of Leagues 1 & 2.
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Post by nelly on May 15, 2015 7:43:10 GMT 1
Just out of interest because the match was deemed to finish 0 - 0 is this what the bookies will pay out on I got my money back as a void bet from Ladbrokes.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 7:47:59 GMT 1
We might not receive extra money from the FL for where we finish in the table granted, However the higher you finish in the table does have a effect on the TV coverage the club gets and can also have a massive effect on extra finances such as sponsorship extra, For example a company wishing to sponsor a club in the championship would favour a club finishing in the top 10 rather than 21st granted we are only talking about 1x place in the league but that can have a big difference to potential investors to the club and even more so when your competition is your local rival. Us finishing 15th or 16th would have an absolutely minimal impact on any 'extras' like sponsorship. As for us finishing 15th or 16th having an effect on the TV coverage we get, that's rubbish, us finishing 15th won't make us any more likely to get any sort of extra coverage than if we finish 16th. Leeds did nothing last year yet have been shown numerous times as they're a big club regardless of where they finished last year (certainly don't think they did anything special from memory). Apart from that the main thing that affects how many games you get picked for, especially early in the season, is how big a team you are (eg Wolves are bigger than Charlton so would be shown more than them early in the season). Once you get to the 2nd half of the season it's all about if you're battling for promotion/the playoffs. If you're not, then your only hope of a TV game is if you're playing a team in 1 of those situations, otherwise forget it (you only have to look at the number of times the teams in the top 8 were picked from Easter onwards compared to anyone else to see that). So leeds did nothing last year and were shown more than us, Yet the top eight clubs from easter onwards were shown more than anyone else, Make your mind up. By the way the FL outcome is a joke, How can they justify that outcome.
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Post by wtd on May 15, 2015 8:20:18 GMT 1
We played 45 games and ended up with 54 points, why not just leave it at that? The table shouldn't read 46 games and 55 points because that never happened.The invasion of a pitch should never mean a fixture is not played. Been saying this all along. Leave the table as 45 games played for the two sides - season unfinished. That's the truth, after all. That way there is always an explanation to be had (an injustice told?) whenever the table is seen. Rather this than some false points/position given and some air-brushing of history.
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Post by rocky on May 15, 2015 9:15:07 GMT 1
Listening to that, I'm thinking it's possible Town have asked the FA to order Blackpool to refund tickets. He talks about 'sticking up for our fans very strongly, they've bought tickets in good faith etc.' & 'not wanting to prejudice the next part of the process'.
Surely, that can only be a reference to tickets refunds.
The more I think about it, the more ludicrous the FL decision is.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 9:46:41 GMT 1
There are some very pointed arguments in this thread. Without pointing a finger, I am just disappointed that the pointless barstewards at the FL didn't deduct 24 points from Blackpool, and give us 12 of them.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 11:18:06 GMT 1
I get that for folks who went it's not a simple fact, they paid good money and I hope they somehow get a refund for that. Maybe Otium having us to finish above Leeds will cost him a gazillion pounds is also something that might impact folks. Equally if your life revolves around finishing above Leeds you can at least claim the only way we were denied the opportunity was from an off the field decision. At least it means the arguments will drone on for a few months until the new season starts...
But for all the histrionics on here, letters to the FL etc. It was a dead rubber. The FL would clearly have acted differently if there had been something riding on the game because whichever side bore the brunt of their decision would take them to court (maybe not Oyston mind...). If it did decide something I also expect they would have arrested/towed off the pitch invaders on the day and got the game finished...
I imagine the FL will ALWAYS consider precedents being set in these scenarios & that the 2 clubs will have been informed of the decision beforehand to ensure there was no disagreement. As it didn't affect our prize money or their wooden spoon it was accepted in good faith...
My take on the players view...
Town player... 'receives tweet about news story', goes to link for the story, reads for 15 seconds, goes back to sunbathing...
Blackpool player... 'receives tweet about news story', goes to link for the story, reads for 15 seconds, goes back to sunbathing, happy that Oyston will be paying him his '0 goals bonus'...
Hope the fans get their money back, hope the world moves on. 13 pages about a non-event, classic DATM...
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on May 15, 2015 11:25:03 GMT 1
I get that for folks who went it's not a simple fact, they paid good money and I hope they somehow get a refund for that. Maybe Otium having us to finish above Leeds will cost him a gazillion pounds is also something that might impact folks. Equally if your life revolves around finishing above Leeds you can at least claim the only way we were denied the opportunity was from an off the field decision. At least it means the arguments will drone on for a few months until the new season starts... But for all the histrionics on here, letters to the FL etc. It was a dead rubber. The FL would clearly have acted differently if there had been something riding on the game because whichever side bore the brunt of their decision would take them to court (maybe not Oyston mind...). If it did decide something I also expect they would have arrested/towed off the pitch invaders on the day and got the game finished... I imagine the FL will ALWAYS consider precedents being set in these scenarios & that the 2 clubs will have been informed of the decision beforehand to ensure there was no disagreement. As it didn't affect our prize money or their wooden spoon it was accepted in good faith... My take on the players view... Town player... 'receives tweet about news story', goes to link for the story, reads for 15 seconds, goes back to sunbathing...Blackpool player... 'receives tweet about news story', goes to link for the story, reads for 15 seconds, goes back to sunbathing, happy that Oyston will be paying him his '0 goals bonus'... Hope the fans get their money back, hope the world moves on. 13 pages about a non-event, classic DATM... What if some players have win bonuses built into their contract that they'll miss out on?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 11:40:20 GMT 1
I get that for folks who went it's not a simple fact, they paid good money and I hope they somehow get a refund for that. Maybe Otium having us to finish above Leeds will cost him a gazillion pounds is also something that might impact folks. Equally if your life revolves around finishing above Leeds you can at least claim the only way we were denied the opportunity was from an off the field decision. At least it means the arguments will drone on for a few months until the new season starts... But for all the histrionics on here, letters to the FL etc. It was a dead rubber. The FL would clearly have acted differently if there had been something riding on the game because whichever side bore the brunt of their decision would take them to court (maybe not Oyston mind...). If it did decide something I also expect they would have arrested/towed off the pitch invaders on the day and got the game finished... I imagine the FL will ALWAYS consider precedents being set in these scenarios & that the 2 clubs will have been informed of the decision beforehand to ensure there was no disagreement. As it didn't affect our prize money or their wooden spoon it was accepted in good faith... My take on the players view... Town player... 'receives tweet about news story', goes to link for the story, reads for 15 seconds, goes back to sunbathing...Blackpool player... 'receives tweet about news story', goes to link for the story, reads for 15 seconds, goes back to sunbathing, happy that Oyston will be paying him his '0 goals bonus'... Hope the fans get their money back, hope the world moves on. 13 pages about a non-event, classic DATM... What if some players have win bonuses built into their contract that they'll miss out on? If a Town player were to take his bat & ball home on that sort of principle and in context of the game in question I'm not sure I'd want that player at the club... In any case I'm sure they will have come to some agreement with the club... If it were an Engineering worker missing out on a shift bonus because a power cut had meant they were forced to knock off earlier & the mgmt didn't pay out on a pro-rata basis... my viewpoint would be entirely different...
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Post by lochnessterrier on May 15, 2015 11:44:02 GMT 1
What's done is done and there's nothing we can do about it. I think we should just move on now.
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Post by stevvy on May 15, 2015 11:47:37 GMT 1
So leeds did nothing last year and were shown more than us, Yet the top eight clubs from easter onwards were shown more than anyone else, Make your mind up. I was perfectly clear. If you're a big team or you're going for promotion (this applies more for Christmas onwards) then those are the 2 things most likely to lead to you being shown on TV more than other teams. Leeds did nothing last season but got shown more than us as they're a big club despite doing naff all the previous year. The top 8 were shown loads from Easter onwards as they were going for promotion. Simple enough. Us finishing 16th won't make us any less likely to be picked next season than if we'd have finished 15th.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 12:02:01 GMT 1
This is a good read. Karma I say, for acting like a bunch of big girls because you missed out on 40 minutes of football. Some of those big girls protested with you . You deserve the oystons
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